This is all that matters
this thread is full of spiderwebs of bullshit
But this day is the only one that matters
feet will be to the fire
Chickens will roast
and graves will be dug
Joe Biden is now POTUS
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This is all that matters
this thread is full of spiderwebs of bullshit
But this day is the only one that matters
feet will be to the fire
Chickens will roast
and graves will be dug
A King isn't elected. The power to declare war is much greater than a pardon bro. After a pardon you lose your 5th amendment rights. You have to confess. The shit Flynn will say before Congress will indict Trump or get Flynn locked up for contempt if he holds back. If the judge let's this go. Trump had no choice here. He's hoping Flynn won't snitch now. But Michael Cohen didn't get that pardon and has already named Trump as a coconspirator. Too little, too late. He's not done yet tho. He has more people to pardon.
Lol...How many times has a POTUS been able to conduct military actions without going through congress?
So what he takes on the mantle of "I'm guilty?"
Based on my understanding there isn't anything that can be done to him legally.
Thus anyone that has the power to PARDON based on anything and can circumvent congress to perfom military actions, IMO, has powers equal to a KING.
My point remains!
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Obama didn't ask Congress to hit Bin Laden. Trump didn't ask when he hit Qasem Soleimani. Bush didn't ask to hit Saddam Hussein. Believe what you want bro. Nothing is more powerful than the commander of the most powerful military in the world. Fuck a pardon.
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Yes! So you're proving my point which is they don't have to "ask" anyone for permission to declare those military actions. That ability AND the Pardon powers amongst other things has elevated the POTUS to a position that the founders supposedly wanted and crafted this country to never have.
Donald Trump is losing thousands of Twitter followers after election defeat
A social media campaign called UnfollowThePres is urging Twitter users to abandon the president's account, saying he will soon no longer be "relevant to our national conversation."
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Q&A: Will Twitter, Facebook crack down on Trump?
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — For the past four years, President Donald Trump has enjoyed the special status of a world leader on Twitter and Facebook, even as he used his perch atop the social media pyramid to peddle misinformation and hurl abuse at his critics.
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Q&A: Will Twitter, Facebook crack down on Trump?
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FILE - In this Thursday, Oct. 1, 2020, file photo, President Donald Trump walks from Marine One to the White House in Washington as he returns from Bedminster, N.J. For the past four years, Trump has enjoyed special status not given to regular users on Twitter and Facebook even as he used his perch atop the social media pyramid to peddle misinformation and hurl abuse at his critics. Could his loose leash on the platforms come to an end on Jan. 20, 2021, when his successor is inaugurated? (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster, File)
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — For the past four years, President Donald Trump has enjoyed the special status of a world leader on Twitter and Facebook, even as he used his perch atop the social media pyramid to peddle misinformation and hurl abuse at his critics.
While regular users could have faced being suspended or even booted from the platforms, Trump’s misleading proclamations and personal attacks have thus far only garnered warning labels.
But could his loose leash on the platforms be yanked on Jan. 20 when his successor, Joe Biden, is inaugurated?
Here are some questions and answers about what the companies have done — and not done — why Twitter’s response has been stronger than Facebook’s and what, if anything we might see from the platforms in the coming weeks and months, once their most high-profile user is no longer in the White House.
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WHY ARE SO MANY OF TRUMP’S TWEETS LABELED?
Ever since he lost his reelection bid, Trump has been spreading falsehoods about purported election fraud and otherwise trying to delegitimize Biden’s win. For the most part, Twitter and Facebook have responded by adding what look like warning labels to his statements, gently guiding people to authoritative information.
But it’s not just Trump’s tweets. Twitter has labeled hundreds of thousands of posts since late October under its “civic integrity” policy, flagging disputed or potentially misleading posts about the election, the voting process and the results. The idea was to prevent voter suppression and premature declarations of victory — in other words, protect the democratic process in an extraordinary election year complicated by a pandemic that led to millions of people voting by mail for the first time.
On Twitter, more than 100 of Trump’s tweets and retweets have been labeled under this policy since Election Day. For instance, one on Nov. 15 where he wrote “I WON THE ELECTION!” has a label below it that reads “Multiple sources called this election differently.” Other false and misleading tweets about voter fraud are labeled with “This claim about election fraud is disputed.” When clicked, users are taken to authoritative sources of information about election results and the prevalence of voter fraud, which is exceedingly rare.
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Facebook has also put labels on many of Trump’s post about election results. Most recently, they say “Joe Biden is the projected winner of the 2020 US Presidential Election.”
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WHAT ARE FACEBOOK AND TWITTER DOING DIFFERENTLY?
Both companies have been more aggressive about labeling Trump’s statements about election fraud and false claims of victory than they have been with other matters of misinformation during his presidency. But Twitter has done more to limit their spread, by placing them behind warning labels and applying brakes in other ways before people can spread them.
Many of Facebook’s labels, which during the election it placed on statements and images about voting posted by all of its U.S. users, could be removed just by clicking on an “X.” Both companies changed how they labeled Trump’s claims of victory after multiple news organizations, including The Associated Press, called the race for Biden. Twitter now says “Multiple sources called this election differently,” while Facebook names Biden as the winner. It’s still possible to share or retweet the labeled posts on both platforms, though pop-ups try to get users to stop and think before doing so.
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DO THE LABELS WORK?
By some measures — public relations, for sure — social media companies fared better in 2020 than they did in 2016 when it comes to protecting the integrity of the U.S. election. But critics say the labels alone often appear to do little more than provide cover for the social media platforms, giving only the appearance that they’re working to safeguard against misinformation.
If the platforms continue to allow Trump and others to spread misinformation with no repercussions other than generic labels, even labeling every single post won’t do much. In fact, if every post is labeled, the labels will quickly lose whatever impact they have.
Of course, both companies have done more than label posts. They have encouraged voting, pushed authoritative information and watched out for foreign and domestic interference efforts. But the warnings have been the most visible effort: easy to see, easy to point to and, arguably, easy to ignore.
The social networks’ actions were a step in the right direction, but not that effective, said Jennifer Grygiel, a professor at Syracuse University and social media expert.
“Each platform has a different risk profile,” Grygiel said. In Twitter’s case, the risk comes from being a real-time platform people go to for immediate news. This means a label applied to a tweet just 15 minutes after it is sent is already too late. Facebook is less immediate, but the risk comes with spread. If a post is labeled but can continue to spread, it’s not enough.
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WHAT WILL HAPPEN ONCE BIDEN IS INAUGURATED?
Trump will return to being a private citizen, and at least on paper be subject to the platforms’ official rules, like any other user. Twitter’s rules exempt “world leaders” from some of its rules, such as those barring glorification of violence or encouraging harassment. That means that even if they violate the company’s rules, their tweets can stay up behind a warning label (there are some exceptions that are prohibited even for world leaders, such as promoting terrorism or directly threatening someone with violence.)
On Jan. 20, after Biden is inaugurated, Trump will lose that world leader status.
On Facebook, the big change will be that Trump’s posts will be eligible for fact checks by third-party fact-checkers.
Both Twitter and Facebook plan to transfer official government accounts to Biden and his team on Inauguration Day. This includes @potus and @WhiteHouse on Twitter and the White House and other accounts on Facebook and Instagram.
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COULD TRUMP BE KICKED OFF THE PLATFORMS?
It will be easier once he is again considered a private citizen, but still unlikely. Notably, all of the fact checks and all of the labels disputing his claims don’t count against him when it comes to his standing on either Facebook or Twitter. To face repercussions such as suspension or permanent removal, he’d have to violate the companies’ rules. This might include targeted harassment or racist threats, for instance. Posting misinformation, unless it’s extremely specific about COVID-19 or the voting process, doesn’t count.
All of this can be changedon Jan 5 in GA
The DNC thought it was time for a woman president, so they cleared the way out for Hillary despite the fact they knew she was the most unpopular candidate in history.
RBG didn't step down because she wanted her successor to be appointed by the first female president.
Just absolutely dumb politics.
The Democrats’ Maddening Cowardice Is Carrying Over Into the Biden Era
Party leaders have met Trump’s postelection sabotage with stunning meekness. Will they stop running from fights?
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No. Obama himself was wishy washy, actually putting Republicans on the Federal
Bench, like the one who ended Trump's bullshit lawsuit in PA, a few days ago. As
soon as Obama got in, he forgot the Democrats who put him there and started
behaving as if Democrats and Republican got him there in equal measure. This is
the same bullshit Biden is starting to do with his talk of appointing a Trump voter
to his cabinet.
If there is anything Trump has taught all these fools, it is the the importance of
rewarding those who voted for you. There is a reason why MAGA is a cult, and it is
simply Orange has delivered their social and political agenda. Filling the the courts
with extreme right wing judges, in places that Obama left empty. And had it not
been for covid, Trump would have won reelection.
Clinton hired a Republican as Defense Secretary
George W Bush hired no Democrats
Obama hired a Republican as Defense Secretary and another as head of the FBI
Trump hired no Democrats
Biden is trying to hire a Republican, and I suspect as Defense Secretary
The message the above sends is that Republicans are right: Both Democratic and
Republican presidents hire them. Democrats are wrong, since only Democrats hire
Democrats, and Republicans do not hire them at all.
The message is debilitating to the Democratic rank and file, as it suggests that
what they fight for is really not important, and they are suckers since their leaders
give them an ostentatious middle finger as soon as they get in power. This can go
a long way to explain why so many people did not show up to vote for Clinton in
2016, or Kerry in 2004.
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I agree and Cersei Lannister Said it best "Power is power"
When you have power you have to use it. You can't blame the other side for using it if you don't
Exactly
I think the difference in the leadership is more the case here
This is why I win in the Georgia runoff is very important Democrats are not Cowards they just didn’t have all the houses in their favor that’s the problem.The Democrats’ Maddening Cowardice Is Carrying Over Into the Biden Era
Party leaders have met Trump’s postelection sabotage with stunning meekness. Will they stop running from fights?
Are you saying that Obama would've put a conservative on the on Supreme Court? Because that's horseshit. Kagan and Sotomayer are as liberal as you can get.
Obama pushed for RBG to retire while they still had the Senate majority, she refused.
Nah. White Supremacy is absolute. No question. Start doing some shit to greatly benefit black people and watch how fast white liberals of all ages and genders start hating us. Too much of a balancing act.
Who gives a shit? This is why the Republicans are always 10 steps ahead of Democrats. The popular vote is irrelevant.
The Democrats chose to look past her weaknesses in the Midwest and Donald Trump's faux populism was the perfect candidate to exploit it.
No. He put the middle-roaders, Elaine Kegan and Sotomayor, on the court and both were
already in their 50s. For Obama, rule number 2 was that you had to come from an Ivy League
school, which means that he would never have put Thurgood Marshall on the Supreme Court.
RBG despised Obama, and even expressed some condescending opinions about him. But the
crime of RBG even being on the court rests only on the hands of another Democrat president:
Bill Clinton. .... Slick Willy was the one who appointed a 60 year old woman to the Supreme Court.
By contrast, Clarence Thomas was put on the Supreme Court before RBG, but was, at 42 years
old when confirmed, 15 years younger.
As you know, Uncle Thomas has gone on to defile the seat that had belonged to Thurgood
Marshall. The sagacious Thurgood Marshall was not naive about what could happen when the
time came to replace him on the court. He warned that the race of the person replacing him
was not as important as his values. The last 27 years of Uncle Thomas reign on the Supreme
Court could not be a more powerful reminder of the prescience of that counsel...
If Clinton had appointed a 45 year old person, that justice would be 71 years old today, and
not the 86 at which old age ended the life of RBG a few weeks ago.
What has to happen is that the Democrats must win the Senate runoffs in Georgia, and expand
the Supreme Court to 13 seats by adding 4 forty-something year old liberal justices.
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Man I know how u be feeling when u be talking to dumb mafuckasYou said she was the most unpopular ever
I'm just pointing out that that statement was inaccurate
A nigga was literally more unpopular than her in that race
I finally understand why u just shit on them.
It just clickdd
Nigga said Hillary was positioned to be the first female president (in 08, and again in 2016) but she was unpopular
My nigga Sayme say she won the popular vote
This nigga said who gives a shit
Man I’d be ready to knock this nigga head off [][]
My nigga Sayme say she won the popular vote
This nigga said who gives a shit
Man I’d be ready to knock this nigga head off [][]
Isn't your dumbass the one who unironically posts links like Andy Ngo, Ian Miles Cheong and other far right grifters?
Nigga shut up and let the grown ups do the political talking
I am glad you remember. But it could not have been in 2008
because Obama was not president yet. If I am telling you the
same thing, there must be truth to it for me to be still saying
after all this time. Hahahahahahaha
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