Biden isnt sworn in but is selecting cabinet members and is setting his agenda. This is when he should be getting grilled. I agree BLM dont speak for us.
After Biden win, Black activists demand reparations for slavery, police reform
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Biden isnt sworn in but is selecting cabinet members and is setting his agenda. This is when he should be getting grilled. I agree BLM dont speak for us.
Now is the perfect time to start pushing Biden for reparations and police reform.
It’s inevitable that he’s gonna take office on January 20th regardless of Trump and co’s antics. So it makes no sense to wait until then.
WE got him elected. He said in his acceptance speech he wasn’t going to let us down.
Good. Begin holding his feet to the fire.
It’s inevitable that he’s gonna take office on January 20th regardless of Trump and co’s antics. So it makes no sense to wait until then.
WE got him elected. He said in his acceptance speech he wasn’t going to let us down.
Good. Begin holding his feet to the fire.
100% agree with this.
When it comes to their ideas of what police reform and criminal justice reform looks like. I agree with BLM.
If you agree with BLM then you are in trouble. Their TOP PRIORITIES are LGBT rights and protections. They are also a Marxist organization that promotes communism, per the words of their own founder.
Not a good look
Based on his history I sincerely doubt that Joe Biden agrees with reparations or police reform. Even if he was there needs to be a general consensus of what it would look like.
When it comes to reparations there isn't a unified plan on who gets it, how much money is involved, or what forms those payments would be made in (checks vs land vs free college vs tax breaks etc).
With police reform at least there's a general agreement that the current system doesn't work. However, nobody can quite agree on what needs to be done about it.
when you're asking a reluctant president to make a change then at the very least you need to know what you're asking for.
When it comes to reparations there isn't a unified plan on who gets it, how much money is involved, or what forms those payments would be made in (checks vs land vs free college vs tax breaks etc).
With police reform at least there's a general agreement that the current system doesn't work. However, nobody can quite agree on what needs to be done about it.
when you're asking a reluctant president to make a change then at the very least you need to know what you're asking for.
Who exactly is he supposed to meet with? Ice Cube, ADOS, BLM, FBA, Boyce and Claud? If he picks one over the other are we going to get constant tweets about how Biden ain't for Black America because he picked one faction over the other? Explain how that is supposed to work
If Biden doesn't meet with them, then what?
the point is you refuse to hold trumps feet to the fire in the same way you do obama or Clinton...you didn't vote and you act like none of this any effect on you personally one way or the other that just makes you a troll with nothing to add to the table of debate.Trump been President for 60 years? Why didn’t Obama pass it? Clinton?
its not supposed to work. this is a repeat of how its been done for at least the last 100 years. The black community has never spoken wth one unified voice on what progress and justice for us means and how it should get done.
I agree, but someone on this board said it is a good thing that we have all these different groups. It makes no sense to me how that is effective political engagement.
I specifically said I agreed on what they push regarding police and criminal justice reform. The same ideas and solutions for those things that they have been fighting for since their inception.If you agree with BLM then you are in trouble. Their TOP PRIORITIES are LGBT rights and protections. They are also a Marxist organization that promotes communism, per the words of their own founder.
Not a good look
the point is you refuse to hold trumps feet to the fire in the same way you do obama or Clinton...you didn't vote and you act like none of this any effect on you personally one way or the other that just makes you a troll with nothing to add to the table of debate.
I did vote and have voted in every election I was eligible. I hold people I vote for accountable more than people I didn’t because the people I vote for owe me. That is how politics work but the profane still don’t get it.You shills lie like there is no tomorrow. Pathetic
So you voted for Obama and Hillary and now your inferring you voted for Biden? Since Obama was the last democrat elected and there were successes for the black community under his tenure just not successes ONLY for black people and trump claimed half of them for his own starting with the increase in black employment. Something many black people refuse to credit Obama for yet Trump tried to ride to a second term. So what EXACTLY are you looking for Biden to do that will mark progress for black people TO YOU??
You shills lie like there is no tomorrow. Pathetic
be specific...
I did. But I didn't say imma start trolling before he was even sworn in.
I also didn't say imma stop performing my civic duties. One election cycle is not going to change anything in the short term. Black people need to present an actionable plan that can actually be implemented. Not just holler give Black people stuff cause we voted.
you're avoiding the question.
you voted for Biden over trump (supposedly) because your expectation of biden is what vs trump?
Man, I been told you guys how the next 4 year going to go.@THE DRIZZY . Yo man, this is EXACTLY what I talked about last week with that list. See what eventually is being asked in this thread?
Swear to god we need a list thread to link to. The thread should be titled "You've been directed here because..." and inside continue "you keep asking the same fucking shill question over and over" with a list of top 5 demands. For the next 4 fucking years, all the shills can be referred to post #1 in that thread every fucking time they pull the
"what is it you want" or some variant of that shit.
You shills lie like there is no tomorrow. Pathetic
Geechiedan isnt Black American, and doesnt support reparations. Ive never seen him promote it or claim he is owed them. Several members lie about being ADOS just to quell reparations talk on this board. Thankfully, most members are starting to see who the problem posters are. They are completely out of touch and have to cape for Biden the next 4 years as he does nothing.
you tell us how reparations specifically gets done thru the American political process as it functions today?
l'll wait...
How many different organizations were there in the 1960s? SCLC, SNCC, NOI, C
There’s a whole 6-page thread on this. You have yet to post in it. https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/a-blueprint-for-reparations.1098307
You and your ilk keep asking variations of the same questions and when presented with with answers you start asking the questions again. You remind me if a cop asking about drugs.
"Reparations will never get past youtube, its a pipedream"-Geechie Dan and anti-ADOS idiots last year
Black Americans decide what the hot button issue is for Blacks in America. Geechiedan and his ilk need to understand reparations isnt going away any time soon.
at the end of the day, Martin Luther king was the face and leader of the movement. King was the one meeting with Presidents to present the agenda and all those organizations were cool with it. That is not the case today and you know it. ADOS goes to meet with the President, FBA is bitching. BLM goes to meet with President we get BLM isn't for really for black folks.
Which faction gets to meet with the president and not have all y'all complaining about how it should have been some other faction instead?
Y'all think Biden gonna meet with King Flex?
and they all had conflicting agendas and methods lets not get into revisionist history and think the whole black community was united during the civil rights struggle.
these were the demands of the Black Panther Party for Self Defense:
What We Want Now!
- We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our Black Community.
- We want full employment for our people.
- We want an end to the robbery by the capitalists of our black and oppressed communities.
- We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings.
- We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present day society.
- We want all Black men to be exempt from military service.
- We want an immediate end to POLICE BRUTALITY and MURDER of Black people.
- We want freedom for all Black men held in federal, state, county and city prisons and jails.
- We want all Black people when brought to trial to be tried in court by a jury of their peer group or people from their Black Communities, as defined by the Constitution of the United States.
- We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice and peace.
- We believe that Black People will not be free until we are able to determine our own destiny.
- We believe that the federal government is responsible and obligated to give every man employment or a guaranteed income. We believe that if the White American business men will not give full employment, the means of production should be taken from the businessmen and placed in the community so that the people of the community can organize and employ all of its people and give a high standard of living.
- We believe that this racist government has robbed us and now we are demanding the overdue debt of forty acres and two mules. Forty acres and two mules was promised 100 years ago as redistribution for slave labor and mass murder of Black people. We will accept the payment in currency which will be distributed to our many communities: the Germans are now aiding the Jews in Israel for genocide of the Jewish people. The Germans murdered 6,000,000 Jews. The American racist has taken part in the slaughter of over 50,000,000 Black people; therefore, we feel that this is a modest demand that we make.
- We believe that if the White landlords will not give decent housing to our Black community, then the housing and the land should be made into cooperatives so that our community, with government aid, can build and make a decent housing for its people.
- We believe in an educational system that will give our people a knowledge of self. If a man does not have knowledge of himself and his position in society and the world, then he has little chance to relate to anything else.
- We believe that Black people should not be forced to fight in the military service to defend a racist government that does not protect us. We will not fight and kill other people of color in the world who, like Black people, are being victimized by the White racist government of America. We will protect ourselves from the force and violence of the racist police and the racist military, by whatever means necessary.
- We believe we can end police brutality in our Black community by organizing Black self-defense groups that are dedicated to defending our Black community from racist police oppression and brutality. The second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States gives us the right to bear arms. We therefore believe that all Black people should arm themselves for self-defense.
- We believe that all Black people should be released from the many jails and prisons because they have not received a fair and impartial trial.
- We believe that the courts should follow the United States Constitution so that Black people will receive fair trials. The 14th Amendment of the U.S Constitution gives a man a right to be tried by his peers. A peer is a persons from a similar economic, social, religious, geographical, environmental, historical, and racial background. To do this the court will be forced to select a jury from the Black community from which the Black defendant came. We have been, and are being tried by all-white juries that have no understanding of "the average reasoning man" of the Black community.
- When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and nature's god entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, and that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its power in such a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accused. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, and their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards of their future security.
How much of this matched up with what the civil rights struggle was about?? How much of it do you HONESTLY think was actionable?
The issue isn't about making reparations go away its about making that particular point a make or break issue to other issues. If all or most of the points of Cubes or Bidens plan happen are you seriously going to tell me you're going to withhold your vote from future elections because reparations didn't happen in the next 4 years? Hell even the dude in the video said its highly unlikely to move forward significantly in our lifetime.
And even if it does happen its not likely to be in the way or form you think it should. At the end of the day it will come down to negotiations and those are never one sided.
But that's the thing...other black organizations weren't cool with it. Black Muslims thought MLK was too soft...SNCC under Stokely Carmicheal was much more raucous and confrontational and had little patience for MLK's nonviolent approach. Those times weren't as harmonious as we would like to remember.
These folks demand stuff but wont give him the congress to make things work.
Has a reparation plan been proposed including logistics and demands ?
White businesses will probably benefit the most from reparations. They say the dollar stay in the black community for less than a day. The only reparations black folk will see will have to come from other black folk. Them devils going to dangle that carrot until horse drop dead.
Can't lie - I do like the laugh at the beginning
That shit was funny lol.
The rest though? That nerd is dumb as a bag of rocks.
Also, I get a strong air of his not having participated in anything towards liberation other than giving his useless opinion on YouTube.
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