Joe Biden is now POTUS

Yep. And a Dem Centrist is still left of center.

Ask Republicans if they think Obama ran or governed from the "center". Those guys are just great politicians that know how to campaign. Obama was a moderate and was still left of center.

The center keeps moving left. Shit.. look at how many states voted to legalize marijuana! That was unthinkable 10 years ago and now the country actually wants it to be federal law.
Even Fox News showed polling recently that the majority of the population approves of the policies that are considered "Socialist," i.e., Healthcare For All, free college tuition/student loan forgiveness, and so on.


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We don't have the reach that they do and although they try to sway in their networks vision, some try to give straight facts, but none of that works. One can also say that you're engaging in sideline criticisms of those that are at minimum trying at something to reach these imbecils err people. Any suggestions with these pictures?
I think Dems need to win by having younger folks help with their messaging. Not young pit bulls but hit people up on things like Twitter. AOC's gaming stream was big. Like all you see on Twitter is Pelosi hate or Dem's bill fluff. Trump mastered weaponizing Twitter. Use the shit back at them. The average voter understands sight words like a 1st grader. They are not going to research if something is true. Hit em with something simple and truthful and transparent over and over.
 
Even Fox News showed polling recently that the majority of the population approves of the policies that are considered "Socialist," i.e., Healthcare For All, free college tuition/student loan forgiveness, and so on.


fox-news-exit-polls.jpg

Exactly! And you have this guy talking about American is right of center. That's laughable. Even the conservatives know that shit's not true :lol:
 
"The White House budget office has instructed federal agencies to continue preparing the administration’s budget proposal for the next fiscal year, according to multiple administration officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share details of private conversations.

The White House budget proposal is typically issued in February, which would be at least two weeks after President Trump is scheduled to depart the White House. He lost the Nov. 3 election to former vice president Joe Biden, and Biden is set to be sworn in on Jan. 20, though Trump has refused to accept the results."
 
I think Dems need to win by having younger folks help with their messaging.

Agreed. The dinosaurs like Pelosi, Schumer, Clyburn, Sanders, etc...if they really cared about the future of the party more than their personal power + ambition, they'd really be fully prepping and building up the next generation. Pelosi is 80 years old. She could literally die in her sleep tonight. That's how old these people are.. they're clinging on to the very end like RBG and fucking the party over when RBG could have easily had her ideological twin who was 40 years younger on the SC but now she has her fucking polar opposite on the court who is going to burn down all the shit RGB supported.
 
"The White House budget office has instructed federal agencies to continue preparing the administration’s budget proposal for the next fiscal year, according to multiple administration officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share details of private conversations.

The White House budget proposal is typically issued in February, which would be at least two weeks after President Trump is scheduled to depart the White House. He lost the Nov. 3 election to former vice president Joe Biden, and Biden is set to be sworn in on Jan. 20, though Trump has refused to accept the results."

Listen,

If Biden doesn't make Schiff AG and just let him go to the work, he'll deserve all the obstruction he's going to get.
 
Even Fox News showed polling recently that the majority of the population approves of the policies that are considered "Socialist," i.e., Healthcare For All, free college tuition/student loan forgiveness, and so on.


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I'm telling you man. The Dems could get a poll that says the majority of the country wants cupcakes and then dems would run on an Americans love "highly concentrated sugar-flavored molds with high-calorie count toppings".

GOP would call them bitches "Liberty Cakes" and be done with it.

and yall know I'm not bullshittin.. remember when the French said they weren't going to support us in Iraq and then the GOP renamed French Fries to FREEDOM FRIES.
 
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I made a thread way back when that shit popped off about how that slogan sucked. The fact you had to explain what it meant was the dumbest shit ever.

I honestly believe that a lot of people are so used to losing that they subconsciously sabotage shit. :smh:

I had a mentor in college that told me the best advice on this: the best way to bring about radical change is to couch it in the language of the ordinary. :yes:

Biden has a chance to do some pretty radical things if he is willing just because he is old and white...
 

"At first blush, black voters appear to be an almost monolithically Democratic bloc. In 2016, black Americans cast 24 percent of Democratic primary votes — the largest share ever. And in the general election, 89 percent of black voters supported Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. That’s one of the reasons why South Carolina’s primary on Feb. 29 is seen as a bellwether for the Democratic field — if a candidate can’t win a state where a majority of Democratic primary voters are black, what does that mean for his or her candidacy going forward?

But black voters aren’t the monolith exit polls make them out to be. Pew Research Center found that a quarter of black Democrats identify as conservative, and 43 percent identify as moderate."
 

"African Americans are Democrats. Since 1968 no Republican presidential candidate has received more than 13% of the African American vote and surveys of African Americans regularly show that upwards of 80% of African Americans self-identify as Democrats. However, understanding why African Americans are such steadfast supporters of the Democratic Party is not as straightforward as it seems. Although committed to the Democratic Party, African Americans are actually one of the most conservative blocs of Democratic supporters. As political scientist Tasha Philpot’s 2017 book title suggests, African Americans are “Conservative but Not Republican.” Understanding how it is that African Americans have been able to maintain such strong support for the Democratic Party despite their increasingly diverging interest with the party is the subject of our new book, Steadfast Democrats: How Social Forces Shape Black Political Behavior.

In the book we show that African Americans have a long, complicated history with party politics. Historically, blacks have been part of both major parties. When African American men first obtained the right to vote after the passage of the 15th Amendment in 1870 they nearly all identified and supported the Republican Party and its candidates; rewarding the Party of Lincoln for its commitment to ending slavery and expanding black civil rights. However, as political power was gradually returned to Southern Democrats, in part through the 1877 compromise which resolved the disputed 1876 presidential election, African Americans, who at this time nearly all resided in Southern states, were once again stripped of their voting rights.

It would not be until the early 20th century, following the large-scale migration of African Americans to Northern cities in search of employment and refuge from the repressive Jim Crow policies of the South, that we would see African Americans reengaging in party politics. In the North, the Democratic Party, through its commitment to organized labor would for the first time begin making inroads with black voters. Despite this, many African Americans both North and South maintained commitments to the Republican Party. It was only when the Democratic Party took up the mantle of Civil Rights in the mid to late 1960’s that black support for the Party coalesced into the reliable Democratic voting bloc we know today.

While the historical antecedents of black Democratic party support are rather straight forward, understanding how it is that, for nearly 50 years, black Americans have been able to remain unified in their support for the Democratic Party, is a more complicated question, especially given the growing economic and political diversity of African Americans over this time period. For example, since the 1960’s there has been significant growth in both the black middle and upper classes and perhaps even more interesting, substantial diversification of black political views. Since the 1960’s blacks have become increasingly more moderate and even conservative on a number of important political issues including certain racial policies. Why haven’t these changes resulted in an opportunity for Republicans to gain support from African Americans?
In the book we argue that in an effort to leverage their political strength as a minority group in a majority based political system, black Americans have come to prioritize group solidarity in party politics. This partisan loyalty is maintained through a strategic social process that we call racialized social constraint, where by support for the Democratic Party has come to be defined as a norm of group behavior. In other words, supporting the Democratic Party has come to be understood as just something you do as a black person, an expectation of behavior meant to empower the racial group.

Adherence with this norm of Democratic Party support is insured through a set of social rewards and penalties which recognize compliance and punish defection of racial group members. Interestingly, it is the social and spatial segregation of black Americans that makes all this work. It is through racially segregated spaces that blacks become aware of the importance of the party norm for the racial group. And it is within these segregated spaces that social rewards for compliance and penalties for defection can come to define an individual’s social status within the group. The result of all this is that to the extent that any individual black American values their relationship with other black Americans, they will continue to act in accordance with the group norm of party support lest they find themselves socially isolated.

This decision to ensure collective action for the larger group interest is an effective strategy for leveraging political power, especially in a two-party system. A divided group minimizes the likelihood of responsiveness by either party, but as a partisan voting bloc, blacks are positioned to push their issues onto the party agenda. If the Democrats fail to be responsive blacks can threaten to withhold their vote by not turning out. This is how racialized social constraint maintains both black party loyalty and black political power."

 
this is a GOOD POINT

but I swear these cacs will bend over backward to find SOME "error in syntax " to justify their evil ways.
Instead they could have used something like "Rethink the Police" "Demilitarize the Police" or "Reform the Police"
  • Rethink = Do Police really need to be called for an autistic kid whose spazzing out on their mom? For someone suffering from a mental episode?
  • Demilitarize = Do the Police really need a tank?
  • Reform = Spend time on proper training and allocate funds towards additional agencies to handle person welfare calls where police have no experience in handling those in need of counseling.
Americans are dumb as hell and they gave Chump Supporters/Republicans a bone with the whole "defund" talk.
 
Man. The entire country was supporting their movement. The polling was great... then the dems came out running with that, I was like


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Man. I bet you the GOP laughed behind closed doors.

:lol:
I swear that the fact that people supported it was the problem. :smh::lol:

A good portion of the "progressive Black" left love gate keeping shit...
 
Instead they could have used something like "Rethink the Police" "Demilitarize the Police" or "Reform the Police"
  • Rethink = Do Police really need to be called for an autistic kid whose spazzing out on their mom? For someone suffering from a mental episode?
  • Demilitarize = Do the Police really need a tank?
  • Reform = Spend time on proper training and allocate funds towards additional agencies to handle person welfare calls where police have no experience in handling those in need of counseling.
Americans are dumb as hell and they gave Chump Supporters/Republicans a bone with the whole "defund" talk.

You mean that many wouldn't have supported "tort reform" if it was called "limiting the ability of patients to sue the motherfuckers who maimed them"? :lol:
 
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I swear that the fact that people supported it was the problem. :smh::lol:

A good portion of the "progressive Black" left love gate keeping shit...

Man. Come on :lol:

Like people are with reforming the police so you can deal with the corruption... but "defund the police" sounds like you just want to remove the police completely. That's NOT what people want. Sometimes people just aren't with your agenda. However, this is a one where people were with it and the naming just fucked it all up.
 

"African Americans are Democrats. Since 1968 no Republican presidential candidate has received more than 13% of the African American vote and surveys of African Americans regularly show that upwards of 80% of African Americans self-identify as Democrats. However, understanding why African Americans are such steadfast supporters of the Democratic Party is not as straightforward as it seems. Although committed to the Democratic Party, African Americans are actually one of the most conservative blocs of Democratic supporters. As political scientist Tasha Philpot’s 2017 book title suggests, African Americans are “Conservative but Not Republican.” Understanding how it is that African Americans have been able to maintain such strong support for the Democratic Party despite their increasingly diverging interest with the party is the subject of our new book, Steadfast Democrats: How Social Forces Shape Black Political Behavior.

In the book we show that African Americans have a long, complicated history with party politics. Historically, blacks have been part of both major parties. When African American men first obtained the right to vote after the passage of the 15th Amendment in 1870 they nearly all identified and supported the Republican Party and its candidates; rewarding the Party of Lincoln for its commitment to ending slavery and expanding black civil rights. However, as political power was gradually returned to Southern Democrats, in part through the 1877 compromise which resolved the disputed 1876 presidential election, African Americans, who at this time nearly all resided in Southern states, were once again stripped of their voting rights.

It would not be until the early 20th century, following the large-scale migration of African Americans to Northern cities in search of employment and refuge from the repressive Jim Crow policies of the South, that we would see African Americans reengaging in party politics. In the North, the Democratic Party, through its commitment to organized labor would for the first time begin making inroads with black voters. Despite this, many African Americans both North and South maintained commitments to the Republican Party. It was only when the Democratic Party took up the mantle of Civil Rights in the mid to late 1960’s that black support for the Party coalesced into the reliable Democratic voting bloc we know today.

While the historical antecedents of black Democratic party support are rather straight forward, understanding how it is that, for nearly 50 years, black Americans have been able to remain unified in their support for the Democratic Party, is a more complicated question, especially given the growing economic and political diversity of African Americans over this time period. For example, since the 1960’s there has been significant growth in both the black middle and upper classes and perhaps even more interesting, substantial diversification of black political views. Since the 1960’s blacks have become increasingly more moderate and even conservative on a number of important political issues including certain racial policies. Why haven’t these changes resulted in an opportunity for Republicans to gain support from African Americans?
In the book we argue that in an effort to leverage their political strength as a minority group in a majority based political system, black Americans have come to prioritize group solidarity in party politics. This partisan loyalty is maintained through a strategic social process that we call racialized social constraint, where by support for the Democratic Party has come to be defined as a norm of group behavior. In other words, supporting the Democratic Party has come to be understood as just something you do as a black person, an expectation of behavior meant to empower the racial group.

Adherence with this norm of Democratic Party support is insured through a set of social rewards and penalties which recognize compliance and punish defection of racial group members. Interestingly, it is the social and spatial segregation of black Americans that makes all this work. It is through racially segregated spaces that blacks become aware of the importance of the party norm for the racial group. And it is within these segregated spaces that social rewards for compliance and penalties for defection can come to define an individual’s social status within the group. The result of all this is that to the extent that any individual black American values their relationship with other black Americans, they will continue to act in accordance with the group norm of party support lest they find themselves socially isolated.

This decision to ensure collective action for the larger group interest is an effective strategy for leveraging political power, especially in a two-party system. A divided group minimizes the likelihood of responsiveness by either party, but as a partisan voting bloc, blacks are positioned to push their issues onto the party agenda. If the Democrats fail to be responsive blacks can threaten to withhold their vote by not turning out. This is how racialized social constraint maintains both black party loyalty and black political power."

first of all, this article says Black people are Democrats today because we are just supposed to be. :hmm:

2nd, it does not give one example of HOW we are conservative, it just SAYS we are.

if Black people believe in spending on social programs, civil rights expansion and protection and freedom to be themselves unless the constitution says otherwise, those Black folks are liberal.
 
You mean that many wouldn't have supported "tort reform" if it was called "limiting the ability of patients to sue the motherfuckers who maimed them"? :lol:

Dems just go with the loudest shit that's said first... they just run with it.

The GOP has like a secret name unit and process. Tort reform is about the most innocuous-sounding shit you could imagine. There was probably someone who just got the wrong leg surgically removed that saw that and was like " i don't know what that is, but it sounds like it needs reforming" and voted for it
 
Yall not getting it... defund the police was a message to the kkkops,

that if they DONT stop LYNCHING moorish men aka so called "black" men..

they will be defunded..

yall sleeping.. for a minute there, there was a so called lynching taking place every other month, calling it a fucking suicide..

even tho the masses are lost and count on mass media for thought patterns and talking points..

those IN THE KNOW... KNOW these lynchings were murders pulled off by kkkops....

trying to send a message...

notice those lynchings stopped, and the police took a big step back from racial profiling... there is still a police state in our communities but that defund the police...

CONTAINED the FUCK out of them....

these kkkops are murdering us and using the law to hide behind... talks of defunding them...

made them rethink their motives...

kkkops need to be defunded and the funding needs to be back in the hood so moorish men can be armed with the law to protect their own

thats the only answer...
 
Dems just go with the loudest shit that's said first... they just run with it.

The GOP has like a secret name unit and process. Tort reform is about the most innocuous-sounding shit you could imagine. There was probably someone who just got the wrong leg surgically removed that saw that and was like " i don't know what that is, but it sounds like it needs reforming" and voted for it
okay...just for some perspective:

there was a patient that had a procedure done.

the surgeon accidentally nicked her bladder among other things.

the surgeon was told of the patient having complications after surgery but basically ignored her.

my wife was on call, went to see the patient, realized what was happening, called the general surgeon and they saved the day.

when the lawsuit was delivered, the general surgeon AND my wife were being sued along with the original surgeon.

tort reform made it easy to have her name stricken from the complaint.

because of frivolous and malicious lawsuits, tort reform was an appropriate name for what was needed.

it just got a bunch of EXTRA shit thrown in.

aight, carry on.
 
I don't even think progressive like AOC are trying to tell centrists to adopt progressive policies because being a centrist is why they're losing. Obviously, she'd like that but that's not her argument. I think her argument is that centrists need to learn how to campaign. You have to get a grassroot campaign that fires up the base of the party and that appeals to the broad party and you have to get people on the ground to "touch' the people.

These dinosaur centrists are often running campaigns as they ran them when they first won 30 years ago. My boy is a judge and when he ran his campaign (he won) the stories he told about how the centrists wanted him to run his campaign are just silly. They don't want to run digital. They want you to run broad TV ads that are too expensive and don't drive engagements like digital. They wanted him to advertise to seniors instead of just visiting senior citizen living spaces (this was pre-covid) and talk directly to the people, etc.

Dems are lucky they have the ideas that people want. But they've got to improve their campaign messaging and process.

Digital is the only thing keeping the GOP alive. The fact that most of these companies are in Pelosi's back yard is more embarrassing.

:smh:

 

"African Americans are Democrats. Since 1968 no Republican presidential candidate has received more than 13% of the African American vote and surveys of African Americans regularly show that upwards of 80% of African Americans self-identify as Democrats. However, understanding why African Americans are such steadfast supporters of the Democratic Party is not as straightforward as it seems. Although committed to the Democratic Party, African Americans are actually one of the most conservative blocs of Democratic supporters. As political scientist Tasha Philpot’s 2017 book title suggests, African Americans are “Conservative but Not Republican.” Understanding how it is that African Americans have been able to maintain such strong support for the Democratic Party despite their increasingly diverging interest with the party is the subject of our new book, Steadfast Democrats: How Social Forces Shape Black Political Behavior.

In the book we show that African Americans have a long, complicated history with party politics. Historically, blacks have been part of both major parties. When African American men first obtained the right to vote after the passage of the 15th Amendment in 1870 they nearly all identified and supported the Republican Party and its candidates; rewarding the Party of Lincoln for its commitment to ending slavery and expanding black civil rights. However, as political power was gradually returned to Southern Democrats, in part through the 1877 compromise which resolved the disputed 1876 presidential election, African Americans, who at this time nearly all resided in Southern states, were once again stripped of their voting rights.

It would not be until the early 20th century, following the large-scale migration of African Americans to Northern cities in search of employment and refuge from the repressive Jim Crow policies of the South, that we would see African Americans reengaging in party politics. In the North, the Democratic Party, through its commitment to organized labor would for the first time begin making inroads with black voters. Despite this, many African Americans both North and South maintained commitments to the Republican Party. It was only when the Democratic Party took up the mantle of Civil Rights in the mid to late 1960’s that black support for the Party coalesced into the reliable Democratic voting bloc we know today.

While the historical antecedents of black Democratic party support are rather straight forward, understanding how it is that, for nearly 50 years, black Americans have been able to remain unified in their support for the Democratic Party, is a more complicated question, especially given the growing economic and political diversity of African Americans over this time period. For example, since the 1960’s there has been significant growth in both the black middle and upper classes and perhaps even more interesting, substantial diversification of black political views. Since the 1960’s blacks have become increasingly more moderate and even conservative on a number of important political issues including certain racial policies. Why haven’t these changes resulted in an opportunity for Republicans to gain support from African Americans?
In the book we argue that in an effort to leverage their political strength as a minority group in a majority based political system, black Americans have come to prioritize group solidarity in party politics. This partisan loyalty is maintained through a strategic social process that we call racialized social constraint, where by support for the Democratic Party has come to be defined as a norm of group behavior. In other words, supporting the Democratic Party has come to be understood as just something you do as a black person, an expectation of behavior meant to empower the racial group.

Adherence with this norm of Democratic Party support is insured through a set of social rewards and penalties which recognize compliance and punish defection of racial group members. Interestingly, it is the social and spatial segregation of black Americans that makes all this work. It is through racially segregated spaces that blacks become aware of the importance of the party norm for the racial group. And it is within these segregated spaces that social rewards for compliance and penalties for defection can come to define an individual’s social status within the group. The result of all this is that to the extent that any individual black American values their relationship with other black Americans, they will continue to act in accordance with the group norm of party support lest they find themselves socially isolated.

This decision to ensure collective action for the larger group interest is an effective strategy for leveraging political power, especially in a two-party system. A divided group minimizes the likelihood of responsiveness by either party, but as a partisan voting bloc, blacks are positioned to push their issues onto the party agenda. If the Democrats fail to be responsive blacks can threaten to withhold their vote by not turning out. This is how racialized social constraint maintains both black party loyalty and black political power."

I don't buy this penalty stuff as stated. There is a penalty, but not for these reasons. They are overthinking what basically comes down to racism.

If the Republicans weren't racist and using black folks as the boogeyman to scare up votes, there wouldn't be a penalty. Black folks get push back because when they are supporting the GOP they are supporting folks who basically state black folks aren't worth shit and aren't true Americans and don't deserve to be here or have nice things to begin with. The racism and oppression is what makes them a non starter. Even for people in tax brackets where their tax policies would benefit them personally, they still have family, friends, child hood communities who would be harmed and are being racially profiled daily.

This piece is trying to sound smart when it basically comes down to supporting the GOP for most black folks is like Jews voting to keep Hitler in power. It makes no sense to say I support and agree with policy xyz when they otherwise want to exterminate you or at best make/keep you a second class citizen.
 
I don't buy this penalty stuff as stated. There is a penalty, but not for these reasons. They are overthinking what basically comes down to racism.

If the Republicans weren't racist and using black folks as the boogeyman to scare up votes, there wouldn't be a penalty. Black folks get push back because when they are supporting the GOP they are supporting folks who basically state black folks aren't worth shit and aren't true Americans and don't deserve to be here or have nice things to begin with. The racism and oppression is what makes them a non starter. Even for people in tax brackets where their tax policies would benefit them personally, they still have family, friends, child hood communities who would be harmed and are being racially profiled daily.

This piece is trying to sound smart when it basically comes down to supporting the GOP for most black folks is like Jews voting to keep Hitler in power. It makes no sense to say I support and agree with policy xyz when they otherwise want to exterminate you or at best make/keep you a second class citizen.
Yes indeed more black folk aren't republicans because of racism. The other factor that was stated is influence. You see a few people talking about starting a black party but we don't have the numbers.
One thing that I say to folks that say we need to leave the dem party is that we are the party. We just failed to take control of it.
 
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