Her partner in crime she said. And folks really get mad at people who criticize those phonies asses.Man, I totally forgot how she turned a goddamned war criminal into a Care Bear.
Kamala Harris’s ancestral village in India offers prayers for her victory.
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Let not make it so simple. It's up to black folk to make ourselves relevant before and after an elections. As I keep tell you folks the base on both sides will always vote. Black folk have to come out and participate in the system and steer the system vs letting the system steer us. It's an owner mindset vs a renters mindset. Take ownership of the places you live and build from there. The reason why so many black folk vote dems is because the republican party representative and promotes racism.
If we put ourselves in a position where we aren't reliant on which party is in office (city/county/state/federal), then we can make better moves and have both parties cantering to us.
1. who said anyone forgot about katrina?
2. the mid 2000s was bush's 2nd term and by the time the economy cratered he became toxic even to the GOP who didn't invite him (and still has not) to the RNCs each election year. trump is in his first term and while cruising to victory is still very much in the race. So the two aren't the same.
Why wouldn't I mention reparations? Slavery and its consequent economic effects have been specific to us, just as that H1B visa issue is specific to educated Indians and other groups. And to answer your question, Marianne Williamson and Julian Castro both spoke on the issue:
And yes, the housing bubble burst had devastating economic effects on Black America. Did Obama make any moves to assist these homeowners? Y'know, 94% of whom voted for him? Oh....that's right.....the Republicans blocked him!
and many votes did either one of them get in the election?? oh that's right...they didn't get that far.
and many votes did either one of them get in the election?? oh that's right...they didn't get that far.
- First of all, you explicitly asked which candidates supported reparations. I named answered.
- Second of all, as far as not getting far, neither did Kamala: https://theweek.com/articles/882074/why-kamala-harris-failed. Let's not forget that she was even losing in her home state of California.
- Lastly, you've moved back into the standard "sassy" style of replying, replete with multiple emojis, rather than cogent analysis, so I think we've both said everything we needed to say here.
ok...I'll concede question asked and answered...ok..but lets finish the story. Raparations would take an act of CONGRESS plus a president...to push thru (look at Obamacare as an example) in the here and now....how close are we to getting that done in a very specific way?
Now considering you NEED congress which means multiple politicians to make this happen what sense does it make to withhold your vote from the ONLY party that's even addressed the thing??
which is what you guys keep talking about. there's alternatives...where? who? name the third party alternative and the wave of support for that particular issue?
Before discussing this further, will you actually read this interview with Professor William Darity? https://thenextsystem.org/for-reparations
Not just skim it, but READ it and let me know when you have.
IMO the most important part of that conversation is right here:
In the early 1990s when Michael Dawson and Rovana Popoff did a study on American attitudes towards reparations for black Americans, only about 4% of white Americans said that they were in favor for reparations for black Americans. That means 96% were against it. I think today it’s closer to 20% of White Americans who would contemplate, or seriously consider, reparations for African Americans. I view that as a significant progress. The question is: can we move the needle to 40%, 45%, in which it becomes possible to seriously contemplate congressional legislation? Can we move the needle to 40%, 45% despite the Trump presidency?
it took years and a black man being elected as president to move the need that far....I can almost guarantee you that 20% is all left-wing as well which encompasses democrats. So again...what sense does it make to withhold your vote from the ONLY viable party that's even addressed the thing??
That’s the problem. That party ISN’T seriously addressing it. So we make it our priority for them to do so by LEVERAGING our vote.
Senate Democrats wish talk on reparations would go away
Senate Democrats are not fans of legislation on reparations for slavery, which has become a hot topic in the 2020 presidential campaign.
AGAINST WHAT??? WHATS THE VIABLE ALTERNATIVE IN AN ELECTION YEAR...MIDTERM OR PRESIDENTIAL?? whats your leverage against democrats that doesn't benefit the republicans who refuse to even acknowledge it....That’s the problem. That party ISN’T seriously addressing it. So we make it our priority for them to do so by LEVERAGING our vote.
Senate Democrats wish talk on reparations would go away
Senate Democrats are not fans of legislation on reparations for slavery, which has become a hot topic in the 2020 presidential campaign.www.google.com
we're looking at this shit in REAL TIME... you all have been saying don't vote and as we speak trump is trying to block votes in states and districts he losing in. So what does the no vote strategy actually get you in the here and now???
Because, without our vote, all of the other constituencies of the Democratic Party will suffer as well. The LGBT, immigrants, feminists, pro-choicers, etc. They’re only able to push their agendas due to Black electoral support, since the majority of the overall white electorate is opposed to their political goals.
you know there are black guys and black females and black immigrants right?...at least 2 out of those 3 groups would benefit from reparations as well. So for you, the issue is a deal breaker...even tho it took the last 30 years for it to even be preliminarily discussed you're not interested in cultivating a consensus on it you want a vote on the floor of congress in the next 4 years. Meanwhile, any progress for blacks is to be counted as tertiary which is why no matter what Obama did it doesn't matter because he didn't get THAT issue done.
is that what this is boiling down to...reparations or bust?
Once again, I am going to refer you to the Darity conversation, since the passage you quoted ISN’T the most important part. This one is:
“In the book From Here to Equality that I’m working with Kirsten Mullen, who happens to be my wife, we say that a reparations program should accomplish three ends. One is acknowledgement. A second is restitution. And the third is closure. There is actually an acronym for those objectives - ARC.”
“Acknowledgement involves the recognition on the part of the beneficiaries of the social injustice that’s in question; an acknowledgement on the part of the beneficiaries of that social injustice that there has been a wrong committed and that there must be some form of repair to be provided to the folks who are the victims of that injustice.
Restitution constitutes the actual program that’s enacted to undertake that form of repair. Closure constitutes the acknowledgement on the part of the victimized community that they have received a satisfactory act of compensation from the victimizers, and that they have no reason to request anything that’s specifically for their group in the future, unless there’s a new wave of injustices.”
So, with that said, Democrats are barely able to do step one, which is Acknowledgement. Second of all, THERE WAS NO ECONOMIC PROGRESS FOR BLACK PEOPLE UNDER OBAMA. There was REGRESSION. I would post charts and stats but you won’t even acknowledge them.So while you’re talking about a vote on the floor of Congress, I’m talking about the party that vast majority of Black people support getting to and through Step 1. If you listen to Conmala’s rambling response above, that’s not something they can even do yet.
It looks like step one is already underway.
As far as Obama is concerned I could show you the lists but you're never going to acknowledge anything good he did anyway either.
As far as Kamala if they get in office is when and where you put the pressure on her and the party to do something...you seem to think the negotiations and pressure stop after elections.
Introduced in House (01/03/2019)
Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act
This bill establishes the Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans. The commission shall examine slavery and discrimination in the colonies and the United States from 1619 to the present and recommend appropriate remedies. Among other requirements, the commission shall identify (1) the role of federal and state governments in supporting the institution of slavery, (2) forms of discrimination in the public and private sectors against freed slaves and their descendants, and (3) lingering negative effects of slavery on living African-Americans and society.
No I think you're saying the Dems have done nothing regarding it and they've done more and any other party up to this point.
I think you're saying that if there's no significant traction on it in the next 4 years up to and including a payment system worked out and all of this on the floor of congress then the black community should withhold our vote and stop any progress from being made anywhere for blacks and everyone else.
Again we're looking an election in real time and how close it is and if we went by ADOS strategy then we'd be looking at a trump 2nd term already and the possibility of nothing being done on behalf of reparations specifically and any progress being made retarded or squelched all together.
I'm not against pressure or fire holding...I'm against the notion that our options aren't limited in a two-party system... so not voting is just not an option. Not a sane one.
Mayne, its men out here who "identify" as women and women who "identify" as men. Hell, Rachel Dolezal "identified" as black, too. I can "identify" as a chair but that don't make me have wooden legs.
Incidentally, if I did "identify" as a woman, Biden has promised to help me first but if I "identify" as black, Harris has assured me that I can fuck right off and that helping everybody else will help my black ass. You know, that trickle down shit that Regan used to spit at us.
We see how well that worked out. Yeah, let's see what happens when that chip is called in. Hopefully, they will do right but I don't expect shit from politicians because most of them ain't shit but hot air. I'm all for putting it out there, though. You're right; they owe us.
Tried to tell you!
CNN just referred to this bitch as Jamaican and Indian.
I hate you niggas more than ever!
I hope... never mind. Fuck you niggas!
nigga mad like someone stole his bike!
Not even close geech.
Just tried to tell you hoe ass niggas.
And you bama ass geechies are ADOS too. Don’t be trying to distance your faggoty ass self.
no one is distancing anything dude...Kamala will be described a black woman and she will call herself a black woman...just like Obama called himself a black man not a kenyan over 8 years...but none of that matters cuz you don't want it to work out just like ya'll fucking dogged Obama no matter what...
Harris bursts through another barrier, becoming the first female, first Black and first South Asian vice president-elect
By Brandon Tensley and Jasmine Wright, CNN
Updated 12:08 PM ET, Sat November 7, 2020
happy now???
And?!
Hobama nor Kamalamadingdong are ADOS.
Fuck both of those anchor babies.’they don’t give a fuck about us.
Bitch is Jamaican and Indian.
Not ADOS in an ADOS country as Vice President. Smmfh
you voted for her just like you voted for Obama...or did you write in Kanye no THERES the ADOS candidate for you
you voted for her just like you voted for Obama...or did you write in Kanye no THERES the ADOS candidate for you
I’m offended like a muthaphucca for someone to think a REAL ADOS voted for Biden/Harris.
GTFOH!
My vote stayed in my pocket waiting for a candidate that was worthy of my vote.
all those extra identifiers of female, south asians, and asian american in there so that when the times comes for demands for blacks she can say "i can't just do for one part of my heritage i gotta help all my peoples"
Please tell these faggots
you do that ace
No doubt house dude
Shes an Indian to me no matter what she calls herself. She was raised by a single Indian mother during her childhood. Her Jamaican father sold her virgin mother some dreams, and when it didnt work out she(like most indian women when scorned) wanted nothing to do with him. The mom couldnt find another guy either. An Indian woman with kids out of wedlock is persona non grata even now, much less 50 years ago.
She was raised by an Indian woman, almost exclusively alone, with Indian values. She went to Howard and pledged light skin because she had the complexion to be special in black society. She worked this privilege with black men like Willie Brown to make her way to the top. He gave her a six figure job where she had to do little work....I wonder has a dark skin woman ever got that out of a dark skin man? Then once she had reached the pinnacle she got with a man her Indian mother would want her to get. A white man. No hate on her honestly, but it is what it is.
She was raised by an Indian woman, almost exclusively alone, with Indian values. She went to Howard and pledged light skin because she had the complexion to be special in black society. She worked this privilege with black men like Willie Brown to make her way to the top. He gave her a six figure job where she had to do little work....I wonder has a dark skin woman ever got that out of a dark skin man? Then once she had reached the pinnacle she got with a man her Indian mother would want her to get. A white man. No hate on her honestly, but it is what it is.
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