Her partner in crime she said. And folks really get mad at people who criticize those phonies asses.Man, I totally forgot how she turned a goddamned war criminal into a Care Bear.
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Her partner in crime she said. And folks really get mad at people who criticize those phonies asses.Man, I totally forgot how she turned a goddamned war criminal into a Care Bear.
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Let not make it so simple. It's up to black folk to make ourselves relevant before and after an elections. As I keep tell you folks the base on both sides will always vote. Black folk have to come out and participate in the system and steer the system vs letting the system steer us. It's an owner mindset vs a renters mindset. Take ownership of the places you live and build from there. The reason why so many black folk vote dems is because the republican party representative and promotes racism.Once they've gotten your vote, your leverage has been lost!! What don't you understand about that?!? Obama did it twice, and what did we get in return from him other than lectures?
1. who said anyone forgot about katrina?Who is talking about war crimes? I was only acknowledging gene cisco's point about how the Obamas are trotted out so the media and the Dems can play their image games that so many Black people fall for. Perhaps you don't recall, but Bush was hated in the mid-2000s the way Trump is now. Michelle hugged him and people forgot all about Katrina and the War in Iraq.
Why wouldn't I mention reparations? Slavery and its consequent economic effects have been specific to us, just as that H1B visa issue is specific to educated Indians and other groups. And to answer your question, Marianne Williamson and Julian Castro both spoke on the issue:
And yes, the housing bubble burst had devastating economic effects on Black America. Did Obama make any moves to assist these homeowners? Y'know, 94% of whom voted for him? Oh....that's right.....the Republicans blocked him!![]()
and many votes did either one of them get in the election?? oh that's right...they didn't get that far.![]()
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- First of all, you explicitly asked which candidates supported reparations. I named answered.
- Second of all, as far as not getting far, neither did Kamala: https://theweek.com/articles/882074/why-kamala-harris-failed. Let's not forget that she was even losing in her home state of California.
- Lastly, you've moved back into the standard "sassy" style of replying, replete with multiple emojis, rather than cogent analysis, so I think we've both said everything we needed to say here.
ok...I'll concede question asked and answered...ok..but lets finish the story. Raparations would take an act of CONGRESS plus a president...to push thru (look at Obamacare as an example) in the here and now....how close are we to getting that done in a very specific way?
Now considering you NEED congress which means multiple politicians to make this happen what sense does it make to withhold your vote from the ONLY party that's even addressed the thing??
which is what you guys keep talking about. there's alternatives...where? who? name the third party alternative and the wave of support for that particular issue?
IMO the most important part of that conversation is right here:Before discussing this further, will you actually read this interview with Professor William Darity? https://thenextsystem.org/for-reparations
Not just skim it, but READ it and let me know when you have.
IMO the most important part of that conversation is right here:
In the early 1990s when Michael Dawson and Rovana Popoff did a study on American attitudes towards reparations for black Americans, only about 4% of white Americans said that they were in favor for reparations for black Americans. That means 96% were against it. I think today it’s closer to 20% of White Americans who would contemplate, or seriously consider, reparations for African Americans. I view that as a significant progress. The question is: can we move the needle to 40%, 45%, in which it becomes possible to seriously contemplate congressional legislation? Can we move the needle to 40%, 45% despite the Trump presidency?
it took years and a black man being elected as president to move the need that far....I can almost guarantee you that 20% is all left-wing as well which encompasses democrats. So again...what sense does it make to withhold your vote from the ONLY viable party that's even addressed the thing??
AGAINST WHAT??? WHATS THE VIABLE ALTERNATIVE IN AN ELECTION YEAR...MIDTERM OR PRESIDENTIAL?? whats your leverage against democrats that doesn't benefit the republicans who refuse to even acknowledge it....That’s the problem. That party ISN’T seriously addressing it. So we make it our priority for them to do so by LEVERAGING our vote.
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Senate Democrats wish talk on reparations would go away
Senate Democrats are not fans of legislation on reparations for slavery, which has become a hot topic in the 2020 presidential campaign.www.google.com
AGAINST WHAT??? WHATS THE VIABLE ALTERNATIVE IN AN ELECTION YEAR...MIDTERM OR PRESIDENTIAL?? whats your leverage against democrats that doesn't benefit the republicans who refuse to even acknowledge it....
you know there are black guys and black females and black immigrants right?...at least 2 out of those 3 groups would benefit from reparations as well. So for you, the issue is a deal breaker...even tho it took the last 30 years for it to even be preliminarily discussed you're not interested in cultivating a consensus on it you want a vote on the floor of congress in the next 4 years. Meanwhile, any progress for blacks is to be counted as tertiary which is why no matter what Obama did it doesn't matter because he didn't get THAT issue done.Because, without our vote, all of the other constituencies of the Democratic Party will suffer as well. The LGBT, immigrants, feminists, pro-choicers, etc. They’re only able to push their agendas due to Black electoral support, since the majority of the overall white electorate is opposed to their political goals.
you know there are black guys and black females and black immigrants right?...at least 2 out of those 3 groups would benefit from reparations as well. So for you, the issue is a deal breaker...even tho it took the last 30 years for it to even be preliminarily discussed you're not interested in cultivating a consensus on it you want a vote on the floor of congress in the next 4 years. Meanwhile, any progress for blacks is to be counted as tertiary which is why no matter what Obama did it doesn't matter because he didn't get THAT issue done.
is that what this is boiling down to...reparations or bust?
It looks like step one is already underway.Once again, I am going to refer you to the Darity conversation, since the passage you quoted ISN’T the most important part. This one is:
“In the book From Here to Equality that I’m working with Kirsten Mullen, who happens to be my wife, we say that a reparations program should accomplish three ends. One is acknowledgement. A second is restitution. And the third is closure. There is actually an acronym for those objectives - ARC.”“Acknowledgement involves the recognition on the part of the beneficiaries of the social injustice that’s in question; an acknowledgement on the part of the beneficiaries of that social injustice that there has been a wrong committed and that there must be some form of repair to be provided to the folks who are the victims of that injustice.Restitution constitutes the actual program that’s enacted to undertake that form of repair. Closure constitutes the acknowledgement on the part of the victimized community that they have received a satisfactory act of compensation from the victimizers, and that they have no reason to request anything that’s specifically for their group in the future, unless there’s a new wave of injustices.”So, with that said, Democrats are barely able to do step one, which is Acknowledgement. Second of all, THERE WAS NO ECONOMIC PROGRESS FOR BLACK PEOPLE UNDER OBAMA. There was REGRESSION. I would post charts and stats but you won’t even acknowledge them.
So while you’re talking about a vote on the floor of Congress, I’m talking about the party that vast majority of Black people support getting to and through Step 1. If you listen to Conmala’s rambling response above, that’s not something they can even do yet.
It looks like step one is already underway.
As far as Obama is concerned I could show you the lists but you're never going to acknowledge anything good he did anyway either.
As far as Kamala if they get in office is when and where you put the pressure on her and the party to do something...you seem to think the negotiations and pressure stop after elections.
Introduced in House (01/03/2019)
Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act
This bill establishes the Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans. The commission shall examine slavery and discrimination in the colonies and the United States from 1619 to the present and recommend appropriate remedies. Among other requirements, the commission shall identify (1) the role of federal and state governments in supporting the institution of slavery, (2) forms of discrimination in the public and private sectors against freed slaves and their descendants, and (3) lingering negative effects of slavery on living African-Americans and society.
You think ADOS hasn’t discussed HR40?!?
Mayne, its men out here who "identify" as women and women who "identify" as men. Hell, Rachel Dolezal "identified" as black, too. I can "identify" as a chair but that don't make me have wooden legs.what are YOU gonna do if/when that happens?? who guys talk about holding peoples feet to the fire then bitch up when the time comes. She identifies as black. she went to a HBCU and we voted for her...she owes us... the question is how and when to call in that chit and hold her and biden to it. Thats where the conversation should be.
how do you think history will record it if she wins?
Tried to tell you!
CNN just referred to this bitch as Jamaican and Indian.
I hate you niggas more than ever!
nigga mad like someone stole his bike!
I hope... never mind. Fuck you niggas!
nigga mad like someone stole his bike!![]()
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no one is distancing anything dude...Kamala will be described a black woman and she will call herself a black woman...just like Obama called himself a black man not a kenyan over 8 years...but none of that matters cuz you don't want it to work out just like ya'll fucking dogged Obama no matter what...
Not even close geech.
Just tried to tell you hoe ass niggas.
And you bama ass geechies are ADOS too. Don’t be trying to distance your faggoty ass self.
Harris bursts through another barrier, becoming the first female, first Black and first South Asian vice president-elect
Not even close geech.
Just tried to tell you hoe ass niggas.
And you bama ass geechies are ADOS too. Don’t be trying to distance your faggoty ass self.
Harris bursts through another barrier, becoming the first female, first Black and first South Asian vice president-elect
By Brandon Tensley and Jasmine Wright, CNN
Updated 12:08 PM ET, Sat November 7, 2020
happy now???
So WTF is she?
you voted for her just like you voted for Obama...or did you write in Kanye no THERES the ADOS candidate for you
Bitch is Jamaican and Indian.
Not ADOS in an ADOS country as Vice President. Smmfh
you voted for her just like you voted for Obama...or did you write in Kanye no THERES the ADOS candidate for you![]()
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So WTF is she?
all those extra identifiers of female, south asians, and asian american in there so that when the times comes for demands for blacks she can say "i can't just do for one part of my heritage i gotta help all my peoples"
I’m offended like a muthaphucca for someone to think a REAL ADOS voted for Biden/Harris.
GTFOH!
My vote stayed in my pocket waiting for a candidate that was worthy of my vote.
you do that ace