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godofwine said:
SO WHAT

You donating 18 years worth of money to these women who don't want to have these babies?

Are you going to pay for exercise program so they can lose it excess weight?

Are you going to come babysit when her child is sick and she's told that if she misses one more day of work she's going to lose her job?

Are you going to baby sit on those days where she had a long hard day at work and doesn't have the time or energy to parent?

Are you going to babysit while she is in nursing school, or med school , or college, or High School?

Are you going to pay so that her son or daughter can't attend after-school programs or play football when she doesn't have the money so that they can participate in those programs?

Are you going to donate money when she is told that she has to be on bed rest, but she's a single mother and she cannot afford not to work?

The resounding answer is no

You're not going to do either one of those things. What's you're going to do is criticize her for being careless. You going to say as many conservatives say, YOU MADE A MISTAKE, GOT PREGNANT, YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT

You're going to ask her why she didn't use protection. You're going to ask her why didn't she pick a more responsible mate

You pro-life people need to understand something: pro-choice people don't like abortion. We don't hate it as much as you do, but we don't like it either.

However, we also realize that we're not going to do any one of those things and so many more that I can't think of right now for that woman or that child.

We realize that having a kid is one of the most difficult, painstaking, thankless and time-consuming jobs you'll ever have in your lifetime and if you know you won't be up for it before you are given the job you should be allowed the right to opt out because it is YOUR BODY.

Whatever the woman's reasons are are her reasons. No man, or woman for that matter, has the right to force a woman to do something with her body. For whatever reason she did not want to have this baby. The end. There's no more to it
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So based off of what you said:
  • Kill the baby because the mom doesn't want the baby
  • Kill the baby because the mom will gain weight
  • Kill the baby baby because it will be the baby's fault it got sick and the mom shouldn't have to be the one to take care of the baby.
  • Kill the baby because the mom will be too tired after a long day of work
  • Kill the baby because the mom might want to go to school and the baby will be an inconvenience
  • Kill the baby because the mom might not have money for after school programs. No money for football? Kill dat baby
  • Kill the baby because hey, the mom made mistake
Those are your arguments. Sounds crazy doesn't it?

You argue that the mother the right to do whatever she wants with her body. I agree with you. She does. She can cut off her leg if she wants to. It's her body. But, inside her body is another body in which she doesn't not have the right to kill or mame. Just because the baby is inside her does not mean she has autonomy over another person's life.
 
Camille said:
We had afro American and folks didn't like it which is how we got to African American.
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I know but Afro-Identified is way easier and includes EVERYONE who identifies with African roots.
African-American is a very specific subgroup that I and you belong to.
Afro-Latins from ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, as well as Africans and Dominicans and Pacific Islanders, can ALL be Afro-Identified without losing any piece of their heritage.
And acknowledgment that you subscribe to african ideology/history and thus in this country, voting along with those tenants.
 
pimp1101 said:
NBC News Exit Poll: Gains with white men helped put Biden over the top in Wisconsin
In Wisconsin, where NBC News has declared Joe Biden the apparent winner, the Democratic candidate got strong support from Black voters, Latino voters, and white women with a college degree, according to the NBC News Exit Poll of early and Election Day voters. It was his relative strength among white men without a college degree, though, that helped put him over the top.
President Trump won this group by 62 percent to 35 percent, but that was much narrower than his 69 percent to 26 percent margin with this group in 2016.
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As a resident of WI, I HIGHLY doubt that shit. I'm VERY skeptical of that conclusion. :hmm:
 
4 Dimensional said:
I took a nap.
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Tito_Jackson said:
So based off of what you said:
  • Kill the baby because the mom doesn't want the baby
  • Kill the baby because the mom will gain weight
  • Kill the baby baby because it will be the baby's fault it got sick and the mom shouldn't have to be the one to take care of the baby.
  • Kill the baby because the mom will be too tired after a long day of work
  • Kill the baby because the mom might want to go to school and the baby will be an inconvenience
  • Kill the baby because the mom might not have money for after school programs. No money for football? Kill dat baby
  • Kill the baby because hey, the mom made mistake
Those are your arguments. Sounds crazy doesn't it?

You argue that the mother the right to do whatever she wants with her body. I agree with you. She does. She can cut off her leg if she wants to. It's her body. But, inside her body is another body in which she doesn't not have the right to kill or mame. Just because the baby is inside her does not mean she has autonomy over another person's life.
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I'm not really in this particular debate between the two of you... But... There's a fairly large group of people that are of the belief that anything before and shortly after the fetal period... Isnt a baby... So your stance on morality doesn't really resonate.
 
Tito_Jackson said:
It will be a big mistake to keep that CAC in office. He does absolute nothing for black people in Michigan. He was quiet as a church mouse when the flint water crisis was happening. And he still haven't help fix it, because the crisis is still ongoing.

The race ain't over yet tho. It's just closer.

John James
Republican Party		49.2%2,590,957

Gary Peters
Democratic Party		48.9%2,574,310
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Damn, why am I listening to Trump.
 
"THE MAN" said:
TALK TO THAT NIGGA! Pro choice means I want abortions to not exist by giving more options to avoid pregnancy.
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Here is the irony, I'm pro choice. You can choose to keep the baby. You can choose to use protection. You can choose to put the baby up for adoption. You can choose to allow the father or another family member raise the child. You can choose abstinence. There are choices other than killing the baby.
Mt. Yukon said:
I'm not really in this particular debate between the two of you... But... There's a fairly large group of people that are of the belief that anything before and shortly after the fetal period... Isnt a baby... So your stance on morality doesn't really resonate.
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What are you considering the "fetal period?"
gutsdabeast said:
So no. Show me any & I mean any articles, politicians, doctors advocating killing children after birth.
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That's the point. You won't. So, why is it different while the baby is in the womb?
 
Tito_Jackson said:
Here is the irony, I'm pro choice. You can choose to keep the baby. You can choose to use protection. You can choose to put the baby up for adoption. You can choose to allow the father or another family member raise the child. You can choose abstinence. There are choices other than killing the baby.

What are you considering the "fetal period?"

That's the point. You won't. So, why is it different while the baby is in the womb?
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Fetal period starts at 8 weeks. I was under the impression abortions were legal up to 3 months. Not an expert, so I could be wrong.
 
Tito_Jackson said:
I have been a foster parent in the past. My wife and I are looking to begin again.

Why is it a leap? Please explain.
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Also I'm not about to derail this thread getting into a women's rights argument with you.

You believe what you want on your high horse while you do nothing for struggling single parents or adopting children.

Have you personally funded or donated to the many underfunded orphanages that are afterthoughts to the very people wanting to overpopulate them.

Don't answer that. It's a rhetorical question. The answer is no. I'm done with you. Back to the election.
 
BrownTurd said:
You have it wrong. Atlanta did it's job. Atlanta did so well that is almost carrying the entire state and may flip it blue. Atlanta punched way above their weight.
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You posted the votes and voting percentage with “Atlanta” listed at the top leading one to believe that Atlanta had more votes from trump than Biden.

A fellow poster mentioned that your post was about the entire state of Georgia instead of just Atlanta.

I already replied stating I should’ve known that many people weren’t in Atlanta :lol:

And I also apologized to Atlanta for calling them faggits.
 
Gemini said:
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So much truth in that. Something I didn't hear the first time, most countries have tried to rectify the atrocities they committed, American still tries to deny ours. In Germany, the Nazi Party is banned. In America, they still fly the Confederate Flag in Union States and erect monuments to traitors. Germany and the Netherlands paid reparations, we created Jim Crow.
 

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