RZA VS DJ Premier
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I know.
I also knew homie was gonna throw half, if not all of RZA’s top shit out there on the first shot.
What he doesn’t realize is that if RZA goes Wu Tang top heavy, all Preemo has to do is hit him with a n underground banger then a Biggie or Jay-Z joint & it’s effectively over.
What’s RZA gonna do? Drop another Wu-Tang hit to compete?
You buggin
They showing it on ESPN 2 after the NBA 2k tournament
There is only one that can match Dre and thats timbaland....
Blaze and Premier is better or probably closer....
Primo wins this one.
Unless you were a real New York head, most people outside of the Tri State didn't really mess with Reasonable Doubt when it first came out. Vol. 2 & 3 made people look back at Reasonable Doubts and people realized it was a classic.
Or Preme vs Alchemist
I agree whole heartedly with the first 2/3rd's of that statement, I do not believe in revisionist history though. I listened to it then, I listened to it now. I'm not saying it's whack, but unless you were born after the 90's, or your a Jay fan, or you don't care to follow Hip Hop, Reasonable Doubt is not a classic. I wouldn't even say it was underrated.
You'd clearly be biased if you told me that album is better than some of the classics that really came out in 96
I guess everyone have their dj at their house, and use their own music for their verses.
How could someone make this list and not have a song from a Group Homes album???
No Living Proof, no Supa Star?
I'm going with Preemo but make no mistake, RZA had a lot of legendary shyt over the years, especially throughout the 90s.
All of that early Wu shyt was incredible! I mean, at that time, the RZA was producing whole albums for each Wu member.
And the way he was chopping up obscure records, kung fu soundtracks, and using using live instrumentation was insane.
Him along with Premier helped to define that gritty NYC sound of the 90s.
It will be an epic battle that will be a must watch if you're a real hip-hop head.
All of that early Wu shyt was incredible! I mean, at that time, the RZA was producing whole albums for each Wu member.
And the way he was chopping up obscure records, kung fu soundtracks, and using using live instrumentation was insane.
Him along with Premier helped to define that gritty NYC sound of the 90s.
It will be an epic battle that will be a must watch if you're a real hip-hop head.
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That’s what I’m saying
This is the main issue. The lack of diversity is why Premo may win with the public but Rza...
Was a problem
May be one of my favorite beats of all time
Rza is next level, weird how people forget how advanced Rza was in the 90's, nigga had 5 different production styles, one for each alter ego. Rza is more advanced than Preemo, but Preemo is more NY than Rza. I am sure Rza produced way more full albums, soundtracks, and movie scores than Preemo, but Preemo has produced on more "NY" classic songs.
Rza had shit on smash from 1993 to 1995, which is widely considered the peak time in Hip Hop.
1993: RZA
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CREDENTIALS: Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (Wu-Tang Clan)
When the Wu-Tang Clan arrived on the scene in the early ’90s, they were more than a supergroup. They represented a musical movement that changed how record deals were structured, how rap fans spoke—and, ultimately, how hip-hop sounded. The chief orchestrator of this cultural shift was Robert Diggs. Known as the RZA (f.k.a. Prince Rakeem), he crafted productions that were the backbone of the Clan’s debut opus, Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers).
One of the first voices listeners hear on the album’s opening track is that of RZA on the hook, yelling, “Bring da muthafuckin’ ruckus!” And that’s exactly what he did with 36 Chambers. Full of murky, mechanical beats and soulful samples, spliced with sound bites from classic kung fu flicks, the album was like nothing rap fans had heard before. Created outside of the glossy music industry, it was the direct kick to the nuts that the game needed.
36 Chambers spawned several classic tracks that highlighted the talents of not only the group’s nine MCs, but also the mastermind behind the boards. Lead single “Protect Ya Neck” and its official B-side, “Method Man,” were bare-bones productions that showcased RZA’s less-is-more approach to beatmaking. Meanwhile, gems like “C.R.E.A.M.,” “Tearz,” and “Can It Be All so Simple” exemplified his knack for marrying dirty drum patterns with beautifully chopped-up soul samples. The latter technique planted the seeds for the chipmunk soul era of the 2000s, which is often linked to a brash young rapper/producer from the South Side of Chicago. But even Kanye West acknowledges the fact that RZA had a major influence on his production style. The second golden age of hip-hop is often pegged to 1994, but truthfully it started a year earlier, when the world was introduced to the game-changing sounds of the RZA.
HONORABLE MENTIONS: Q-Tip/A Tribe Called Quest, DJ Premier, Dr. Dre
1995: RZA
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CREDENTIALS: Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… (Raekwon); Return to the 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version (Ol’ Dirty Bastard); Liquid Swords (GZA)
After the Wu-Tang Clan exploded onto the scene with Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) in 1993, RZA moved to phase two of the Wu-Tang plan: infiltrating record labels and spreading the Wu doctrine across a number of projects. With each artist able to sign his own solo deal outside of the Clan, Method Man kicked things off with his RZA-produced 1994 debut Tical—foreshadowing the three RZA-helmed solo albums released during the Wu’s 1995 run.
Raekwon’s Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… was one of the biggest releases of the year. Known to fans as “The Purple Tape” due to the translucent purple cassette it arrived in, the album found Rae establishing his own chamber, which was more closely tailored to Scarface than Five Deadly Venoms. That was no issue for the RZA, who sourced classic crime films like The Killer and Carlito’s Way to provide the glue that connected Rae’s gritty dopeboy tales and mafioso dreams to the Clan. Together, he and Rae cooked up a certified hip-hop classic.
The same can be said of GZA’s Liquid Swords, a captivating puzzle box of philosophy and street tales. Produced entirely by the RZA (save for the CD-only bonus track), the album used sounds plucked from a wide variety of sources, including New Edition, Three Dog Night, and Cannonball Adderley. RZA came up with challenging patterns and rhythms that fit the deep lyricism and coded language that the GZA penned over them. It was closer to Enter the Wu than “The Purple Tape” and provided a perfect representation of what the GZA brought to the squad.
For the RZA’s third trick, he churned out Return to the 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version, the solo debut from his and the GZA’s cousin Ol’ Dirty Bastard. RZA didn’t produce the lead single, “Brooklyn Zoo,” but he did provide the infectious piano twinkle and understated groove of standout “Shimmy Shimmy Ya.” From the subversive melodies of “Raw Hide” to the playful throwback hip-hop of “Cuttin’ Headz,” the RZA got the best out of the Wu’s biggest character.
The Wu mastermind was supremely in demand in 1995, also producing tracks for Cypress Hill (“Throw Your Set in the Air,” “Killa Hill Niggas”), the Batman Forever soundtrack (Method Man’s “The Riddler”), and Shaquille O'Neal (“No Hook”). Basically, anyone who was looking for the sound of New York hip-hop in 1995 had to holler at the RZA.
HONORABLE MENTIONS: Havoc/Mobb Deep, Da Beatminerz, Easy Mo Bee
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Yo, is this going to be recorded?
This shit is going to be historic.
This shit is going to be historic.
The 'Fighting on a Corner About over the DJ Premier vs RZA IG Battle' Episode
01:23:46 - Andreas and Kel talk about Dana White canceling UFC 249, the immediate future of live sports, and the anticipated DJ Premier vs. RZA IG Live battle.
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Andreas and Kel talk about Dana White canceling UFC 249, the immediate future of live sports, and the anticipated DJ Premier vs. RZA IG Live battle.
The 'Fighting on a Corner About over the DJ Premier vs RZA IG Battle' Episode
01:23:46 - Andreas and Kel talk about Dana White canceling UFC 249, the immediate future of live sports, and the anticipated DJ Premier vs. RZA IG Live battle.
www.listennotes.com
Andreas and Kel talk about Dana White canceling UFC 249, the immediate future of live sports, and the anticipated DJ Premier vs. RZA IG Live battle.
That's FUCKED UP!
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I got Preme!
You're a lame
Cool story broYou're a lame
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