The Impeachment Hearings , House Vote and Eventual Trial ..All Updates ...AS EXPECTED... TRUMP SKATES

He's starting to crack …. 6 page letter …. cough … diatribe to Pelosi …. twitter wasn't good enough for him …
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LETTER HERE

Trump tells Pelosi in blistering letter that Dems are 'declaring open war on American Democracy'

 
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:confused: Why does like 95% of them look and sound like red neck yokel trash ???

sidebar: what he should've done was to pull out a copy of the "transcript" and gave it to those morons …. each time he asked if they read it … and then look at them after they read it … right down to the part where it say: "this is not a transcript" … :hmm:


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I'm still holding out on Bolton releasing a statement and documents during the Senate Trial to prove Trump is guilty. He said he was going to get his revenge. Perfect time to do it with the addition of his book release.

Trump could go to the Senate and on national TV say “yes, I asked Ukraine to interfere in the election and I’m going to keep doing it” and Republicans would not remove him and his approval would still be in that 37-43% range.
 
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I'm going back to what I said months ago. Get this impeachment out of the way so that Dems get the fantasies of Trump being removed or the "American people" starting to care out of their heads. They weren't going to believe neither Mueller nor impeachment would bring down his numbers until they saw both with their own eyes. Now they can focus on registering voters and getting ready for this election.

At the end of the day, the answer was always to focus on 2020 but sometimes it feels like Dems would rather focus on anything else but that.
 
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Yeah but Trump is tripping hard so something else is going on that even Mitch cannot stop
This letter does seem a little strange. Especially, since Moscow Mitch said they are going to run through impeachment and not convict as quickly as possible.
 
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This letter does seem a little strange. Especially, since the Moscow Mitch said they are going to run through impeachment and not convict as quickly as possible.

Donald Trump’s impeachment is already blowing up in Senate Republicans’ faces
Bill Palmer| 7:00 pm EST December 17, 2019
Palmer Report » Analysis

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has now publicly voiced at least five different and conflicting iterations of how he plans to handle Donald Trump’s Senate impeachment trial. This tells us that he knows there’s no good way for him to handle it, and that he’s throwing things at the wall in the hope of finding whatever might do the least damage to his party’s chances of retaining the Senate in 2020. It looks like Mitch is headed back to the drawing board.

This morning Chuck Schumer publicly urged Mitch McConnell to call reluctant witnesses like John Bolton and Mick Mulvaney to testify in the Senate impeachment trial. McConnell quickly and loudly rejected the idea. But new polling from ABC News and the Washington Post says that 71% of all Americans, and 64% of all Republicans, want these kinds of witnesses to testify at the trial.

McConnell can go forward without calling these witnesses if he wants; it’s his show. But we all know that his primary goal is to survive this trial without losing his Senate majority – and with these kinds of public opinion numbers stacked against him, he and the Senate GOP will pay the price in 2020 if they refuse to call relevant witnesses.

This means Mitch McConnell has to go back to the drawing board and try to come up with an impeachment trial strategy that doesn’t put his Senate majority at risk. He could just do the right thing entirely, but that’s not his style. Instead he’ll try to come up with some corrupt new way to provide minimal help to Donald Trump without having to stick his own neck out too far. What’s clear is that if such a balance does exist, Mitch hasn’t found it yet. This trial could get dropped in his lap at any time, and he still hasn’t figured out how he wants to play it.
 
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McConnell: 'I'm Not Impartial' About Impeachment
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December 17, 20193:06 PM ET
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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., leaves the chamber after criticizing the House Democrats' effort to impeach President Trump.
J. Scott Applewhite/AP
Updated at 3:20 p.m. ET
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., dismissed the impeachment process against President Trump as a political proceeding rather than a judicial one.
"I'm not an impartial juror. This is a political process. There's not anything judicial about it," McConnell told reporters on Tuesday. "The House made a partisan political decision to impeach. I would anticipate we will have a largely partisan outcome in the Senate. I'm not impartial about this at all."
The House could vote as early as Wednesday to impeach Trump on charges that he obstructed Congress and abused power. Whether Trump conditioned aid to Ukraine on a Ukrainian investigation into the Bidens is at the heart of the impeachment proceedings against the president. Trump has denied that any such link was made, and in a letter Tuesday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Trump compared his impending impeachment to "subverting America's Democracy."
TRUMP IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY
READ: President Trump Sends Pelosi Letter Protesting 'Partisan Impeachment Crusade'

McConnell's comments to reporters came after the majority leader rejected Democrats' request to call witnesses for Trump's Senate trial. Democrats had hoped to establish rules for evidence and witnesses well before a trial starts, possibly in January.
McConnell said on the House floor earlier Tuesday that it was not the Senate's job to build a case against the president.
"The House chose this road," McConnell said. "It is their duty to investigate. It is their duty to meet the very high bar for undoing a national election."
The speech was a response to a letter sent Sunday by Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.

In the letter, Schumer asked McConnell to agree to a set of rules similar to those used to govern the 1999 impeachment trial of then-President Bill Clinton. At the time, Senate leaders Tom Daschle, D-S.D., and Trent Lott, R-Miss., reached a bipartisan accord on the basic schedule ahead of the trial. A second set of rules was later approved along party lines to govern the handling of witnesses and evidence.
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How Rules For Impeachment Trials Are Negotiated
Democrats want to call four administration officials, including former national security adviser John Bolton and acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, as witnesses.
Schumer told NPR's Morning Edition this week that Democrats chose that list to establish additional information from individuals who have not yet testified in the House impeachment inquiry into Trump.
"These four witnesses have direct knowledge of why the aid to Ukraine was delayed," Schumer said in his letter. "We're not interested in dilatory tactics. We're not interested in introducing our own conspiracy theories. Just the facts, ma'am. And that's what these four witnesses will produce."
McConnell rejected Schumer's letter in its entirety. He said he would like to meet with the minority leader directly to resume talks on the structure of a trial.
"If this [impeachment trial] ends up here in the Senate, we certainly do not need 'jurors' to start brainstorming witness lists for the prosecution and demanding to lock them in before we've even heard opening arguments," McConnell said. "I look forward to meeting with the Democratic leader very soon and getting our important conversation back on the right foot."
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Impeachment Timeline: From Early Calls To A Full House Vote

McConnell told reporters Tuesday afternoon that he was "optimistic" that he and Schumer could agree on the first phase of the trial, which would include House managers and White House counsel presenting their cases to senators. But on Phase 2, which would be related to witnesses, McConnell said he expects that the two sides will have to disagree.
Even if McConnell and Schumer do not come to an agreement, senators can still try to call witnesses once a trial has begun. Those requests would be subject to a simple majority vote. Some Republicans want Hunter Biden, the son of former Vice President Joe Biden, to be called as a witness.
 
I personally don’t like trump but the democrats don’t seem to care about the future.

In the future they will be a Democratic president

They do realize that from now forward anytime a opposing party takes over the house and senate they can impeach a president for any little minor details.

But I guess they don’t care. I can’t blame them if trump wins in 2020 it’s pretty much over for progressive liberalism for at least 20-30 years. Look what happen in the U.K. elections last week.
 
I personally don’t like trump but the democrats don’t seem to care about the future.

In the future they will be a Democratic president

They do realize that from now forward anytime a opposing party takes over the house and senate they can impeach a president for any little minor details.

But I guess they don’t care. I can’t blame them if trump wins in 2020 it’s pretty much over for progressive liberalism for at least 20-30 years. Look what happen in the U.K. elections last week.

like a blowjob?
 
:) you know what’s funny about the whole impeachment thing. Legally trump can apply for a 3rd term

If trump is re-elected Trump can legally run for a 3rd term. It’s in the 1974 clause.

So I can only image how the democrats feel about that.


He also can't be pardoned.

Pelosi also doesn't have to send the Impeachment to the Senate.

Trump can be impeached multiple times, the investigations are ongoing.
 
I personally don’t like trump but the democrats don’t seem to care about the future.

In the future they will be a Democratic president

They do realize that from now forward anytime a opposing party takes over the house and senate they can impeach a president for any little minor details.

But I guess they don’t care. I can’t blame them if trump wins in 2020 it’s pretty much over for progressive liberalism for at least 20-30 years. Look what happen in the U.K. elections last week.
What level of fuckery could the GOP pull at this point that they haven't already? They already refused to do their jobs for the last Democratic president. They vilified every action, and stopped just short of calling him a literal enemy of the people (and some went ahead and slipped past that line some days).

It's fascinating to me, because I think about Obama and I realize, had he not run a near perfect game as far as keeping his nose (relatively) clean while in office, they would have done something worse. And don't get me wrong; what they did was terrible enough. But imagine.

So would they be petty and try to impeach the next Democrat president? Absolutely.

Would they probably have done that shit anyway? Absolutely.

The GOP will just stay dirty. Acting like they're going to actually course correct at some point is how we got to this fucked up point to begin with.
 
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