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Hahahahaahhahahaa. I actually am miserable. Hahahahah

Spectrum said:
I'm not holding any grudges. You're just a grouch ass nigga.. That's all. You're in every thread with the same shit :lol:

Someone will make a thread about vitamin C...and you'll p0p in like " :smh: can't believe yall eat that much citrus fruit. Yall gonna die from stomach acidity"... you just that type of muthafucka... i bet you're a miserable muthafucka to be around
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In all seriousness, I don't take that shove serious at all. I dont know why y'all so upset.
 
I wouldn't ban him. I say if fans want to put they hands on players or call them racial slurs the players should be able to handle it themselves with no repercussion. Of course that would never happen but its the only way they gonna learn to keep their hands and mouth to themselves.
 
Spectrum said:
Yo...and he never cuts the white guy off..he cuts everyone else off but he always lets the white guy finishes this thoughts
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That’s not true, Whitlock and Wiley’s show is actually good, they are able to offer up alternate trains of thought without yelling, sounding like idiots, or athlete worshipping the whole show.

I know Whitlock gets a bad rap around here and rightfully so in some aspects, I’ve even called him coonlock in certain instances, but I can give credit where it’s due, it’s the best sports show on TV

And he’s gone in on Big Ben plenty, and he shitted on Ric Bucher, the white dude you are referring to, a few shows ago
 
TENT said:
In all seriousness, I don't take that shove serious at all. I dont know why y'all so upset.
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You don’t see an issue with a fan unprovoked, pushing a player during the game? Not only is it a fan it’s the opposing teams billionaire part owner.

You don’t have an issue with a man pushing you period?

What is your rationale behind not having an issue with that?
 
Bro. I said it isn't that big of a deal asking for a band. Everyone in this thread is behaving like a bunch of bitches. It was a weak shove.

Yes, he shouldn't have touched him however you know when something is a big deal and when something isn't.

Bro I am from the Bronx and I have seen niggas get their wig split from name calling.

If a man pushes me I would open up his head like a rip cantaloupe.

Would I be wrong. Yes. Would I be making a big deal over nothing. Yes.

BronxBomber said:
You don’t see an issue with a fan unprovoked, pushing a player during the game? Not only is it a fan it’s the opposing teams billionaire part owner.

You don’t have an issue with a man pushing you period?

What is your rationale behind not having an issue with that?
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TENT said:
Bro. I said it isn't that big of a deal asking for a band. Everyone in this thread is behaving like a bunch of bitches. It was a weak shove.

Yes, he shouldn't have touched him however you know when something is a big deal and when something isn't.

Bro I am from the Bronx and I have seen niggas get their wig split from name calling.

If a man pushes me I would open up his head like a rip cantaloupe.

Would I be wrong. Yes. Would I be making a big deal over nothing. Yes.
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Ok I’m from the Bronx too but we not talking about the streets. This is essentially a board room, matter of fact it’s the WORLDS STAGE.

It’s not that the brother was hurt, or it’s as serious as war but it is serious because WE have to stop allowing our images to be handled and marginalized. I’ve had to tell my workers there are certain things I would have done at 21-25 that I wouldn’t dare to as a 44 year old man. They be like why I’m like I gotta son, he watching everything I do.

The world is watching, our people are watching, there people are watching. You are thinking too narrow with this, think was reported this was the most watched game in Canadian history.

It is a very big deal for the optics of the NBA, the optics of how fans can treat players, how whites can treat Black people. This ain’t the street my brother, it’s much bigger
 
tpotda said:
I coulda swore they used to give Cuban fines that were $2-3 mil or something like that. But yeah Divest and lifetime ban should be the punishment. Can't believe I agree with Colin Cowherd and shit
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The most fined owner is Mark Cuban, for 20 fines totaling $2,240,000; alone this is about 10% of all fines since 2000.

Cuban is not only the most fined owner, he is the most fined individual person in NBA history, in terms of both total number of fines and total amount fined.


Mark Cuban's fines and suspensions

[Note that Cuban does match each fine with a donation to charity.]
[Note that this is not a complete list as the league has choosen in
some cases not to publicly announce some fines.]


Overall total: $2,565,000 + ??, 3 games suspended

2017-18
2/22/18 $600,000 for his comments stating that Dallas' best course
was to tank

2015-16
7/7/15 $25,000 for publically commenting on LA Clippers free
agent DeAndre Jordan (with whom the Mavs had
reached a contract agreement - but teams were
not allow to publically talk about free agents
during the July Moratorium) [note that the
comments and fine were before Jordan reneged
on the agreement]


2014-15
none


2013-14
1/18/14 $100,000 for confronting the refs and using inappropriate
language towards them following the 1/15/14
Dal-LAC game.

2012-13
1/7/13 $50,000 for his tweet in general criticizing the refs
on 1/5/12. The tweet including "tried for 13
seasons to fix the officiating in this league
and I have failed miserably" came following two
Mavs games in which Cuban thought there were
questionable calls.

2011-12
2/2/12 $75,000 for criticizing the refs following the 2/1/12
OKC-Dal game. It was a general rant regarding
the poor officiating that has been occuring
with the lockout condenced season.


2010-11
none



2009-10
5/22/10 $100,000 For public comments he made regarding soon to be
(but not officially until July 1) free agent
LeBron James, which violated the league's
anti-tampering rules.


2008-09
3/29/09 $25,000 For publicly criticizing the refs (via Twitter)
following the 3/27/09 Den-Dal game. Cuban
complained about J.R. Smith (Den) not being
called for a technical foul for taunting and
that it was the same ref crew from the 1/16/09
game.

1/16/09 $25,000 For improper interaction with J.R. Smith (Den)
during the 1/13/09 Dal-Den game. Cuban was
complaining about an elbow thrown by Smith during
the game.


2007-08
none


2006-07
none


2005-06 (total: $450,000)
6/20/06 $250,000 For "several acts of misconduct" following the
6/18/06 game at Miami (game 5), including yelling
a ref, staring down David Stern, and cursing to
the media.

5/10/06 $100,000 For going on the court during the 5/7/06 game at
San Antonio (game 1) to complain about a non-call.

5/10/06 $100,000 For criticizing on his blog how the league selects
playoff refs.


2004-05
11/??/04 ?? For comments on his blog criticizing the league
for starting the season on election day.

10/9/04 $100,000 For comments criticizing the rules limiting the
training camp practices to just one scrimmage per
day, maximum of 3 hours per day, and 2-a-days to
just 5 days.


2003-04
3/16/04 $10,000 For "inappropriate public comments". Cuban had told
a reporter that he had said to Josh Howard during the
March 5 game at San Antonio that Cuban would pay the
fine if Howard got a technical if Howard would smack
the ball out of Bruce Bowen's hands and cause the
ball to hit Bowen in the face.


2002-03
None


2001-02
1/8/02 $500,000 For comments about the officiating after the Dal-SA
game and comments about league head ref Ed Rush.
[the Dairy Queen comments]


2000-01 (total: $505,000, 3 games suspended)
3/13/01 $100,000 For making a derogatory gesture at the refs during
the Pho-Dal game and for his remarks regarding the
officiating following the game. He was also
suspended for 1 game.

2/16/01 $10,000 For going on the court during the Dal-Cle game when
Gary Trent and Wesley Person got in a scuffle.
[Cuban went halfway up the sideline along the
scorer's table before returning to his seat and
got nowhere close the scuffle (which was at the
free throw line at the opposite basket).] Cuban was
also suspended for 2 games. [The fine and
suspension were automatic for a team official going
on the court during a game.]

1/11/01 $100,000 For "conduct unbecoming of an NBA owner" - Cuban sat
on the floor along the baseline next to the
Mavericks' bench during the Dal@Min game to watch
the game. [One of the silliest fines ever.]

1/4/01 $250,000 For his outburst and actions concerning the refs
after the Det-Dal game. Cuban had a still shot of
a blown ref's call put on the jumbotron after the
game and he also yelled at the refs.

11/22/00 $25,000 For verbally abusing and publicly criticizing the
refs after the Dal-Sea game.

11/20/00 $15,000 For confronting and verbally abusing the refs during
and after the Dal-Pho game.

11/14/00 $5,000 For comments about the reffing after the Sac-Dal
game.


1999-2000
none


[Cuban signed a letter of intent to purchase the Mavericks on 1/4/00
and took over ownership duties at that point; the NBA Board of Governors
formally approved the sale on 4/11/00.]

https://clutchpoints.com/mavs-news-...k-2-3-million-in-fines-to-the-nba-since-2001/
 
Adam Silver explains why Warriors investor not given life-time ban for incident with Kyle Lowry
Adam Silver: ‘We felt how contrite Mr. Stevens was’
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NBA commissioner Adam Silver explained his decision to issue a one-year ban and $500,000 fine to Warriors investor Mark Stevens. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)
By MARK MEDINA | mmedina@bayareanewsgroup.com | Bay Area News Group
PUBLISHED: June 6, 2019 at 7:33 pm | UPDATED: June 6, 2019 at 7:33 pm

OAKLAND – The NBA acted swiftly. Did the NBA appropriately, though?

The NBA punished Warriors investor Mark Stevens with a one-year ban from attending NBA games and team-related activities along with a $500,000 fine on Thursday morning. That happened less than 24 hours after Stevens pushed and yelled obscenities toward Raptors guard Kyle Lowry during the Warriors’ Game 3 loss in the NBA Finals at Oracle Arena. Why not issue a life-time ban, though?


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“We recognize it’s not a science in terms of making these decisions,” NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said on Thursday with a handful of reporters at an NBA Cares event at the Ira Jinkins Recreation Center. “Ultimately, we felt how contrite Mr. Stevens was and that he was extraordinarily apologetic. The fact that he had no blemishes on his prior involvement with the NBA or the Warriors, a one-year ban seemed appropriate together with a fine.”

The NBA had issued harsher punishments toward other fans involved in other incidents with its players. Following a regular-season game three months ago, the Utah Jazz issued a life-time ban to 45-year-old Shane Keisel after yelling vulgar and racial obscenities toward Oklahoma guard Russell Westbrook, who was also fined $25,000 for the exchange. The Boston Celtics also banned a fan for yelling a racial slur at Warriors center DeMarcus Cousins during a regular-season game in Boston in late January.

Silver acknowledged this reality: “this isn’t a typical fan sitting courtside; this is an investor on the team.” Despite the lower punishment, though, Silver actually argued that “we do believe that people that are members of a team or organization or the league should be held to a higher standard.” Silver insisted the ruling did not mean the NBA or the Warriors are currying favor with an investor.

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“I’d like to think that whether there’s an issue that involves a team investor as, is the case here, or a player that everyone is afforded due process and that we don’t necessarily respond to immediate sentiment of the most dramatic thing we can do in a situation,” Silver said. “We act in a way that we expect people to act toward us if we had made a mistake. Ultimately, here there is no question that Mr. Stevens made a mistake. From my standpoint, he’s paying an enormous price for it, not just in terms of the discipline and the ban, but his reputation in his community as well. My sense is that he understands that and has taken it to heart as well. This is not something that has happened in my tenure in the NBA, and I don’t expect it to happen again in the future.”

Instead, Silver said the NBA made the decision based on varying factors. The NBA spoke with league and Warriors security shortly after Game 4. Then the league reviewed footage that showed Lowry colliding with two fans sitting in courtside seats in the fourth quarter before Stevens shoved him.


It is not clear if the Warriors will force Stevens to sell his shares. The Warriors, though, also banned Stevens from all team-related events, including the duration of the NBA Finals. Silver added the NBA spoke with Lowry and “several different players from around the league.” The NBA also had conversations with the Warriors, which has suspended Stevens for the duration of the NBA Finals and any team-related events through the teams’ debut season at Chase Center in San Francisco. The NBA also interviewed Stevens himself.

“There’s not some rulebook I can look to on precisely what to do,” Silver said. “I try to balance all the different factors here and I think that this was a fair outcome. We did take into account how contrite Mr. Stevens was.”

Stevens reiterated those feelings in a statement the Warriors released on Thursday evening.

“I take full responsibility for my actions last night at the NBA Finals and am embarrassed by what transpired,” Stevens said in the statement. “What I did was wrong and there is no excuse for it. Mr. Lowry deserves better, and I have reached out today in an attempt to directly apologize to him and other members of the Raptors and Warriors organizations. I’m grateful to those who accepted my calls. I hope that Mr. Lowry and others impacted by this lapse in judgment understand that the behavior I demonstrated last night does not reflect the person I am or have been throughout my life. I made a mistake and I’m truly sorry. I need to be better and look forward to making it right.”

Before the NBA had fully determined its ruling, Lowry hardly sounded as forgiving. He said that Stevens told him to go “Go (bleep) yourself” during the pushing incident. Lowry also argued that Stevens should not have any ownership stake with any NBA team.​

The Warriors did not offer any immediate clarity if they will eventually force Stevens to sell his shares. Silver said he not heard of that possibility, either. Silver confirmed, though, that Stevens at least said some variance of vulgarities toward Lowry.

“When he was interviewed, he acknowledged using inappropriate language,” Silver said. “I don’t know if it matched word for word with what Kyle said. But there was no dispute over the facts. Even last night, he was very forthcoming and said, ‘What I said was 100 percent wrong’. There was no attempt on his part to suggest those words weren’t attributed to him. I think in his words and deeds, there was no dispute on what happened.”
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There is a dispute on the NBA’s ruling, though. Lowry, LeBron James and several other NBA players argued for a more stringent punishment. Michele Roberts, the executive director of the National Basketball Players Association, emphasized the players unions’ “support of a “zero-tolerance” policy with respect to verbal and/or physical assaults perpetrated against Players.” In a statement, Roberts added that “Stevens’ status as a member of the ownership group does not alter that view.”​

Warriors players spoke with more nuance following Thursday’s practice, aware that the NBA had not officially announced its decision yet.

“Everything I’ve known about this organization has been a top-notch, upper-echelon organization. So definitely not the type of thing that you want out of somebody out of the ownership group when you’re talking about the organization,” Draymond Green said. “As far as the double standard, it’s hard to really sit here and say there’s a double standard when it comes to an owner if — to my knowledge, there has been no ruling, no overall ruling yet. So I think before we start talking double standard, we at least need to give the league a fair chance to respond.”​

Even if Lowry wished the NBA responded with a swifter punishment, Silver expressed appreciation for how he handled the incident.

“He did what we train our players do, which is point out either to the officials on the floor or the security in the arena anything they feel has put them in a threatening situation and let them handle it.” Silver said. “That’s obviously what he did in this situation. He turned his focus right back to the competition. That’s the best we can hope for. I don’t want to guarantee there wont be another incident. But I will say again what we saw last night seemed very atypical to anything I experienced in my time in the league.”
 
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“I take full responsibility for my actions last night at the NBA Finals and am embarrassed by what transpired. What I did was wrong and there is no excuse for it. Mr. Lowry deserves better, and I have reached out today in an attempt to directly apologize to him and other members of the Raptors and Warriors organizations. I’m grateful to those who accepted my calls. I hope that Mr. Lowry and others impacted by this lapse in judgment understand that the behavior I demonstrated last night does not reflect the person I am or have been throughout my life. I made a mistake and I’m truly sorry. I need to be better and look forward to making it right.

“I fully accept the punishment administered by the NBA and the Warriors.”


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@largebillsonlyplease

what you think of his apology?

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