Alabama abortion ban: Nation’s strictest abortion bill passes; no rape, incest exceptions

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After a shouting match broke out, the Alabama Senate on Thursday abruptly delayed a vote on a bill that would outlaw most abortions in the state and make performing the procedure a felony punishable by up to 99 years imprisonment.

The tumult and yelling on the Senate floor began when some Republicans attempted to remove amendments that would have allowed women to get abortions in cases of rape or incest.

The decision was made by a voice vote, angering Senate Minority Leader Bobby Singleton and other Democrats who were seeking a roll-call vote on all issues related to the abortion bill. A voice vote, Democrats argued, gave cover to Republicans unwilling to put their names on an amendment that would ban abortions even for women who were raped.

Singleton said he wanted a roll-call vote because of the importance of the issue.

“I want the people of the state of Alabama to know how we vote,” he said. “I think the people have a right.”

They accused Alabama Lt. Gov. Will Ainsworth, a Republican who presides over the Senate, of being too quick to move forward with the voice vote and steamroll over their concerns.

“I know this bill is going to pass. You’re going to get your way,” Democratic Sen. Vivian Davis Figures said after the shouting died down on the Senate floor. “At least treat us fairly and do it the right way. That’s all that I ask. That’s all that my Democratic colleagues ask. That’s all that women in this state ask, both Democratic and Republican women.”

As the commotion escalated, Senate President Pro Tempore Del Marsh (R) moved to delay the vote on the amendment to the abortion bill until next week.

Marsh said debate would reopen on Tuesday, asking senators to “set the reset button” on the bill by taking the weekend to think about it.

“Let people go home, talk to their constituents and come back,” Marsh said, absolving Ainsworth of blame for a fast-moving gavel.

“I believe the lieutenant governor followed procedure,” Marsh said. “I think that people maybe had their guard down a little bit, maybe didn’t expect a voice vote.”

The bill, which is expected to be passed by the conservative majority, would be the most restrictive in the country and would impose a near-total ban on abortion.

Alabama is among more than two dozen states that have sought to impose new restrictions on abortion this year. Georgia on Tuesday became the sixth state to impose a ban on abortions after the sixth week of pregnancy.

Alabama Rep. Terri Collins (R), who sponsored the bill, said its purpose is to spark litigation that would force the U.S. Supreme Court to reconsider Roe v. Wade, the landmark 1973 decision that guarantees a woman’s right to an abortion.

Under the Alabama legislation, doctors would not be able to perform abortions once a fetus is “in utero.”

The version that passed in the House allowed for only a single exception, in cases involving a serious health risk “to the unborn child’s mother.” An amendment added in the Senate would also provide for exceptions in the case of rape or incest. That amendment was at the heart of the fierce debate Thursday.

Gov. Kay Ivey (R), who has described herself as antiabortion, is expected to sign the bill into law, although she has declined to comment directly on the legislation until it is finalized.

Staci Fox, president of Planned Parenthood Southeast Advocates, said in a statement that the confusion broke out on the Senate floor “because Alabama lawmakers have been faced with the real and dangerous implications of this bill.”

“I hope they take this opportunity to think critically about what this bill means for the women of this state and why women and doctors should be making these personal, private health-care decisions — not politicians,” she added.

Sen. Clyde Chambliss, who is shepherding the bill through the Senate, said in a statement to The Post that the measure “recognizes that an unborn child is a person, and therefore deserves the full protection of the law.” Despite the spirited debate on Thursday, he said, “ultimately, HB314 is going to pass, and Alabama is going to lead the nation in protecting the sanctity of life. Planned Parenthood can try to derail the bill, as they did in spending over a million dollars to unsuccessfully oppose a pro-life ballot measure last fall in Alabama. But the outcome will be the same: Alabamians will stand on the side of life.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...fc2ee80027a_story.html?utm_term=.6e0fc2810ae7
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The reason is very simple... take a look at the birth rates broken down by race. Birth rates of white people are being outnumbered by birth rates of people of color at, to them, an alarming rate.
It has already been predicted that they will be a minority in a few decades.

just coming in here to say that...i truly believe that some white people are afraid of becoming a minority in this country and are afraid of not just losing power but being treat as horribly as those in power have done in general to the rest of the world.
 
slow guy here but couldn't they just go to another state and get an abortion
The GOP or others that push these Bill's are playing chess, not checkers. As GOP majority states are seeing other states pass these laws, it's a domino effect and they present the same if not stricter laws. It's like "they passed it in Georgia, why not here." Not to mention the news covered Georgia this week but what about the 5 states that passed it before them, crickets.

The goal of the GOP is to have enough states pass these laws to make a case to ban abortion as a country.

Local votes matter to keep these fools out of office.

We now see why the Presidential vote mattered too. Commando Orange Littlehands has had the opportunity to put in enough Supreme Court Justices to make overturning Roe vs Wade a reality. And since SCJs are there for life, it will be many years down the road before a liberal majority is a possibility again.

Alabama wants to do a voice vote so no one has to admit to their constituents how they actually voted. What a fucking joke...but hey, it's Alabama. :smh:

A voice vote occurs when the presiding officer states the question, then asks those in favor to say "yea" and those against to say "no." The presiding officer announces the results according to his or her best judgment. In a voice vote, the names of the senators and the tally of votes are not recorded.
 
slow guy here but couldn't they just go to another state and get an abortion

There's no argument to be had against this madness, fam. Don't even try to.....otherwise it's just as backwards as the people trying to pass the shit.
 
Bingo.

The second highest abortion rate is white women. The number one is Asian. Black and Hispanic abortion rates fall behind them in numbers. So anti-abortion lobby is pretty about protecting white lives at any cost.


The reason is very simple... take a look at the birth rates broken down by race. Birth rates of white people are being outnumbered by birth rates of people of color at, to them, an alarming rate.
It has already been predicted that they will be a minority in a few decades.
 
slow guy here but couldn't they just go to another state and get an abortion

They'll have to travel north

In the first few months of 2019, “heartbeat” abortion bans have been signed into law in four states: Mississippi, Kentucky, Ohio, and now Georgia.

Lawmakers in other states including Tennessee, Missouri, South Carolina, Florida, Texas, Louisiana and West Virginia, are considering similar proposals.
 
republicans are strange.....

they fight to outlaw abortion....then in the next breath theyre fighting to end social programs....

fight to get the babies here but hey once its here you're on your own

someone please explain this logic to me
That is the strangest fucking shit. They should be the ones begging for social programs for all the fucking babies they want. Like all this anti-abortion shit should be tied to social program funding bills.
 
The reason is very simple... take a look at the birth rates broken down by race. Birth rates of white people are being outnumbered by birth rates of people of color at, to them, an alarming rate.
It has already been predicted that they will be a minority in a few decades.
They are close to being the minority in Ga. Abortion is not the problem with white people’s Birthrate they are just not fucking. If anything this abortion rule will just create more black babies
 
They are close to being the minority in Ga. Abortion is not the problem with white people’s Birthrate they are just not fucking. If anything this abortion rule will just create more black babies
Oh a good number of the population in Georgia young white women Are having kids from black dudes
 
republicans are strange.....

they fight to outlaw abortion....then in the next breath theyre fighting to end social programs....

fight to get the babies here but hey once its here you're on your own

someone please explain this logic to me

Goal is to punish women for having sex especially outside of marriage
 
republicans are strange.....

they fight to outlaw abortion....then in the next breath theyre fighting to end social programs....

fight to get the babies here but hey once its here you're on your own

someone please explain this logic to me

Because these colonist make billions of dollars off our suffering!! For every single thing our people suffer from, I mean every single one of them. There is a billion dollars industry behind it!! Think about it!!
 
Motherfuckers can say what they want about liberals, but the proof are in the numbers. Republicans are more dishonest and get caught in more scandals, both financial and sexual and just in general. They are a fucking group of hypocrites. I'm sure some are fine people, like 2%, but the rest are fucking deep well fucking scum. How can you vote for a motherfucker that shits on POWs and says he likes to grab women by their pussies. I'm sorry, if Obama said that shit, I would've wrote him a fuck you lettter. Get out of the program bitch. Now this shit, men telling women what they can do with their bodies. Fuck outta here. You ain't got $5 on this!! GA is gonna pay. The liberal entertainment business will drop to 0. 99 years in jail are u kidding me. I be like really considering moving south from the north and I see this backwards ass shit and voter suppression shit and just be like naaaa, I might be okay to stay here longer.
 
Georgia Bill:

https://www.businessinsider.com/women-30-years-prison-miscarriage-georgia-abortion-2019-5

In addition to banning abortion after a heartbeat can be detected, the law's personhood provisions:

  • Allow fetuses to be claimed as dependents for tax purposes.
  • Count fetuses as people in official population surveys, which would have implications for political representation.
  • Allow for women who perform their own abortions outside of a formal medical setting to be charged with first-degree murder, which could carry a sentence of up to life in prison or the death penalty.
  • Allow for prosecutors to charge women whose pregnancies end in miscarriage with second-degree murder, which carries a sentence of 10 to 30 years, if they can prove the miscarriage was a result of "the woman's own conduct," like drug or alcohol use.
  • Enable state prosecutors to charge a woman who travels out-of-state for an abortion — and anyone who assists her — with conspiracy to commit murder under Georgia's fetal personhood law.
 
i agree

it shouldn't be that easy to get rid of life.

imagine if obama momma wanted to have one ?

US MEN need protections when WE are inside the womb.

i'd give bitches 50 years for even saying the word.
I'm just a lil mad that an abortion …. or a swift hard drop kick to your moms midsection didn't save us from you ….. :hmm:



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You goddam white devils ain't gots ME fooled! They trying desperately to save their white devil asses! Their birth rates are in the goddam negative, abd opioids and suicides are killing them off even faster. This is why, black man, this devil is THROWING you his white women! Master Fard Muhammad removing them from the planet as he promised! :dance:
 
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i agree

it shouldn't be that easy to get rid of life.

imagine if obama momma wanted to have one ?

US MEN need protections when WE are inside the womb.

i'd give bitches 50 years for even saying the word.

Master Fard Muhammad makes all needed things easier. And he says that the white man has got to go!

:dance:
 
They're trying to force this up the Supreme Court.

Of the 27 Republicans, all white men, that dominate the 35-seat Alabama senate, 25 voted to pass the bill late on Tuesday.

https://www.al.com/news/de8b00-alab...agqNh6sovUG7Na8iKcx3RoMm5O6te0AnGN8CLCH88JncA

After several hours of contentious debate, the Alabama Senate tonight voted 25-6 to pass what many say will be the strictest abortion ban in the nation. The controversial abortion bill all but bans the procedure in the state. The bill makes abortion a felony in Alabama. A similar measure already passed the Republican-controlled House but controversy erupted last week in the Senate after an attempt to add amendments that would allow exceptions for victims of rape or incest. Another attempt to add rape and incest exceptions today also failed and led to a filibuster attempt. Proponents of the measure pushed for a “clean bill” without amendments in order to clear the way to a legal fight in the U.S. Supreme Court and a review of Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision that legalized abortion. The bill now goes to Gov. Kay Ivey, who will decide whether to sign it into law. Complete coverage of the abortion debate can be found here:https://topics.al.com/tag/abortion/index.html
 
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