Jordan Peele new movie "Us" - updated with trailer (contains spoilers)

Ok. I can believe this. But, there are a lot of questions about it. How does the double get to the top to make the change? How was the double able to speak? There is no evidence that suggest Jason had any type of treatment or went thru a period where he didn't talk. Jason is the way he is because he is mixed with tether and regular. But hey, I wouldn't totally dismiss this theory. That's the great thing about the movie.


Jason wasn't a double
He's just tethered and original mixed so he shares the traits

He knows his mom is the tethered at the end.
 
Two bodies tethered to one soul. Lowpita became LUPita.

Initially, Lowpita was not evolved enough to speak nor did she know the surface ways. She had to learn. but even down below she was more independence than the other clones.

After Lupita was abducted she was left below where she devolved.

The original Lowpita became the Soul Controller over time.

Low and Lu are tethered so they both had a degree of compassion for both sets of children. Lup let the girl run away and let the boys play.

They didn't just come in and slaughter like the other clones.

The original and the clone are tethered. the influences go both ways. The bottom boy was obsessed with fire because of the surface boy. The surface boy was obsessed with mask because the underground boy had to cover his disfigurement.


Cause the movie was about the forgotten
And opportunity
 
nah, and a lot of people actually thought this. Keep in mind, the kids are actually "mixed" so they have tendencies from both parents.
there was no switch. The kids face was burnt because Jason kept trying to do the trick and it wasn't working, but it was working for his double, which is why his face was burnt.
She did feel sorry for each kid before they died, because they could have actually been her kids. When Red snatched jason, i assume she told him the truth about his mother, which is why he gave her that look at the end.

He heard everything
He was in the locker when they were fighting
 
You mean the piece of cloth with eye holes? Seems like you didn't really read my original comment by the responses
They had supplies. Red was cutting up paper. Where would she have gotten that from? Where did they get the chalk to draw on the board?
 
I think the son was birthed by Red and got switched out during a previous family vacation.
I picked up on two dead giveaways that the son was not Adalaide's.
1. Instead of building a sand castle at the beach, he said he was building a tunnel.
2. Remember at the end, when the burned face boy backed into the fire?
Adalaide was screaming "NOOOOOOOO don't do that!!" or whatever...
She didn't want her child to kill himself.
The burned face boy was killed by his underground tether.
Red then snatches the normal boy to take him back underground where he was born.
That's why they both looked at one another like that.
The boy and Adelaide know that they both escaped from the tunnels.

i guess we can start posting spoilers now. Most people are are probably seeing it tonight, so i will still use tags.
nothing happened to the kid when he went to the bathroom, when he came out, he saw the double of the man that was standing at the gate when Lupita first went into the mirror house (the guy with 11:11 on his head). He killed his double, which is the body they saw when they arrived at the beach. the man was standing there with blood dripping from his hands, he was the first to get a kill and was standing there waiting for the others to join hands. The son was taken by Red, and it is assume that during that time, Red told him the truth about his mother, hence the look he gives her at the end.
Naw i don't think the son was a swap. He gave her that look at the end cuz he heard her make that noise they make when she killed herself. He gave her that look cuz he know she a clone
 
But in addition to that, Us isn’t even a well told story (as is evidenced by all the expository stuff from the Red character). A movie shouldn’t have to explain itself to its audience, or have to be endlessly dissected to be appreciated.

Get Out could be singularly enjoyed as a thriller/suspense/light horror flick and didn’t have to rely heavily on subtext (although there was plenty beneath the surface). This one obviously needs help.
For comparison's sake, Black Panther was explained by the white character Everett Ross.

Sometimes, it's necessary for the less intelligent members of society, that a story and certain details are explained even though most of us are smart enough to get it.

You didn't enjoy the movie. I understand. You have that right. I'm not here to shame you or to talk bad about you because you didn't like the movie. I don't know if you were trying to read more into it or you thought the plot of the movie was too simplistic and desired more. That's alright.

Most of the rest of us either enjoyed it, really enjoyed it, or found a deeper meaning that lead to some interesting conversation.
 
The Father, The Kids....Their cac friends....
It was kinda annoying to say the least
Mostly, the dad... the acting mismatch between him and Lupita was glaring. She pretty much carried the movie.
Lupita's husband was the straight guy. He ended up being a sheep at a table of wolves. Lupita was a wolf married to a sheep, but in the beginning she was pretending to be a sheep herself, so their pair was perfect.

However, when the other wolves arrived and she turned into a wolf that she was hiding from the rest of her family and yanked the reigns from him.

I didn't see any glaring bad acting moments except maybe a couple of the expressions on little boy's face when he was supposed to be scared, but it wasn't blatant or often. He's 9. I love him a pass
 
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My reasoning to suggest Jason was switched at some point. Not all concrete but interesting.
  1. On the beach near the white girl twins he tells them he building tunnels instead of sand castles.
  2. When he comes from the bathroom on the beach he doesn't seem phased by the bloody hand man standing/waiting for others. Maybe because he knows the plan.
  3. In the car on the way to vacation, him and the mother are off beat when snapping their fingers to the music.
  4. When the father asked him for the bat, he seemed to not know what it was.
  5. The surface mother had a stronger bond to Jason than the daughter. ex, At bedtime she holds his hand and states she will always protect him. Goes nuts when we think he's lost on the beach but she knows he is possibly being taken or whatever she's afraid is happening to her.
  6. If I'm not mistaken, Jason only kills when he is protecting his mother from being killed.
  7. Part of the government experiment was for the Reds to be able to control the surface people but it failed. However Jason was able to control Red Jason by moving him into the fire. I'm assuming surface Jason was the 'clone' and learned that part of the experiment and was able to do it to Red Jason.
  8. He didn't know how to do the magic trick from the year before.
  9. Red Jasons mouth curiously being burned, so he can not speak.
  10. Overall the boy was just weird.
Jason looks at his mother curiously twice. When she is stabbing the white twin to death and in the car at the end of the movie. Both times as if he doesn't know who she is anymore. Cant explain this.

I believe both the mother and Jason had to ability to control their humans. That would explain why young Adelaide wandered off specifically to where clone Adelaide was and took her.
 
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Wasn't a fan and I kept trying to be. I thought the motivation for the "tethered" Lupita was incorrect. If she had been swapped by an actual tethered you really aren't trying to bring "your" people to the surface to take over.

How are people in an orphaned secret experiment separated by an escalator?!?!?

Who is tethered to whom? We see that the tethered imitate their originals, so how was the tethered Lupita living life? She should have been doing whatever the original was doing. When the tethered Bill Duke was trying to do ANYTHING with the original Lupita that disconnect should have prevented any relationship/family.

How are there this many of the tethered kept in this underground area.

Get Out was a much better movie, I think if he didn't have that twist at the end he would have a better movie
 
Wasn't a fan and I kept trying to be. I thought the motivation for the "tethered" Lupita was incorrect. If she had been swapped by an actual tethered you really aren't trying to bring "your" people to the surface to take over.

How are people in an orphaned secret experiment separated by an escalator?!?!?

Who is tethered to whom? We see that the tethered imitate their originals, so how was the tethered Lupita living life? She should have been doing whatever the original was doing. When the tethered Bill Duke was trying to do ANYTHING with the original Lupita that disconnect should have prevented any relationship/family.

How are there this many of the tethered kept in this underground area.

Get Out was a much better movie, I think if he didn't have that twist at the end he would have a better movie
I like Us but the more you think about it.....it wasn’t explained as well as Get Out was. I think it’s one of those movies you don’t think too hard about which Get Out was the complete opposite.
 
Typical BGOL crab in a bucket mentality i see.

Guess we just want black people in BBQ’s or hood movies.

Shout to Jordan Peele for putting us in different movies.

For those who say the acting is trash...i disagree. The main cast had to play to completely different versions of themselves. Lupita was excellent in this.

For those saying it wasn’t scary, it wasn’t. It wasn’t meant to be a jump scare horror movies but a movie that resonates with you long after. It was creepy and psychological but not a scary movie.

There are a lot of layers in this movie. It requires a couple of viewing like Get Out.



But as usual, if it requires some sort of thought, we will trash it. We are our own worst enemy sometimes.

So everyone has to like what you like? If not they are crabs in a barrel?
 
I thought the motivation for the "tethered" Lupita was incorrect. If she had been swapped by an actual tethered you really aren't trying to bring "your" people to the surface to take over.
she brought them to the top to get revenge for being swapped and having to endure the pain she went thru. she was also freeing them from being held captive underground.
How are people in an orphaned secret experiment separated by an escalator?!?!?
the escalator only goes down. But when the power went out, they were able to go up. This will need further explanation from Peele, because there are some issues surrounding this theory, but then again, i could be wrong about this.
Who is tethered to whom? We see that the tethered imitate their originals, so how was the tethered Lupita living life? She should have been doing whatever the original was doing. When the tethered Bill Duke was trying to do ANYTHING with the original Lupita that disconnect should have prevented any relationship/family.
when she was uptop she became her own person. but her tethered essentially took her place below.
How are there this many of the tethered kept in this underground area.
it's not just in this underground area. The message in the beginning said something about all underground tunnels being sort of connected.
 
I'm gonna have to watch this again.
Dude is brilliant as hell with his movie making.
Leaving you with so many unanswered questions, pretty much force you to spend more money to watch it twice to get a better concept of it.
 
she brought them to the top to get revenge for being swapped and having to endure the pain she went thru. she was also freeing them from being held captive underground.
But she NEVER explained that. Wouldn't that be the first thing you said when you see the person that took your life?

the escalator only goes down. But when the power went out, they were able to go up. This will need further explanation from Peele, because there are some issues surrounding this theory, but then again, i could be wrong about this.
Dawg, an ESCALATOR!!!!??? Let me keep you in some shytty basement with a escalator going in the wrong direction as your only escape. How long are you gonna be captive?

when she was uptop she became her own person. but her tethered essentially took her place below.
Then the tethering needs to be explained because who controls who? Just cause you're up top that means you're in the drivers seat? You're sharing a soul they went into no other explanation of who controls and why. That's just shytty story-telling.

it's not just in this underground area. The message in the beginning said something about all underground tunnels being sort of connected.
How do messages get from one underground to another to unify. Resources for the Red suits and gold shears.
 
But she NEVER explained that. Wouldn't that be the first thing you said when you see the person that took your life?
it was, when they were all face to face, red explained the pain she went thru giving birth, etc, and all the shit she had to go thru because of what Ale was doing up top.
Dawg, an ESCALATOR!!!!??? Let me keep you in some shytty basement with a escalator going in the wrong direction as your only escape. How long are you gonna be captive?
they don't have that capacity. Didn't you see some of them walking into walls.
Then the tethering needs to be explained because who controls who? Just cause you're up top that means you're in the drivers seat? You're sharing a soul they went into no other explanation of who controls and why. That's just shytty story-telling.
who ever is on top, controls. Like Jason was able to control his tether.
How do messages get from one underground to another to unify. Resources for the Red suits and gold shears.
i can't answer that.
 
it was, when they were all face to face, red explained the pain she went thru giving birth, etc, and all the shit she had to go thru because of what Ale was doing up top.
And I get that, but there wasn't this; "BYTCH YOU STOLE MY LIFE!!!!" moment. I couldn't give ANY fcuks about the rest of the tethered, I'm an original and this bytch stole my life. The ending just seemed hammered into the rest of the story.

they don't have that capacity. Didn't you see some of them walking into walls.
But WHAT makes who's in control? Upstairs, Downstairs this 9 year old shouldn't have been able to control his tethered so easily when BOTH are above ground, and nobody else could (apparently Winston Duke could as well when he was adjusting his glasses)

who ever is on top, controls. Like Jason was able to control his tether.
So then why is it the Original Lupita never tried to control the tethered Lupita

i can't answer that.
I know I sound like I hated the movie, but I thought it was well acted and good direction. Is it better than Get Out? Does it deserve the praise that it is getting? Shyt like this makes me feel like I am being pandered too. Critics give it 100%, but the general public have these valid ?uestions about plot holes in the movie.

But I would see it again and I would urge others to see it. Not for love of the director or any actor (even though Lupita Nyongo WILL be mine someday) But we don't get the luxury of making a bad movie. Shyt don't make money and they won't let Jordan Peele or the next Jordan Peele make another movie. Ridley Scott has bombed that Alien franchise to hell and he'll make three more if they'd let him.
 
Best BGOL assessment so far. But what do you think about that look the boy gave Lu at the end in the car...does he know shes Low?
I agree with the folks that say the boy is a clone.

1. He didn't know where the bat was kept.
2. He couldn't do the magic trick.
3. He was weird and without rhythm.
4. He was building sand tunnels instead of castles.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Clone Lupita replaced the injured son with the healthy replica from below which made the surface boy devolve so much.

At the locker the boy knew she wasn't he mama thus Lupita kept urging the boy to look at her without exposition. She was the only mama he had. he was the only son she had. little man just had to deal with it.
 
But WHAT makes who's in control? Upstairs, Downstairs this 9 year old shouldn't have been able to control his tethered so easily when BOTH are above ground, and nobody else could (apparently Winston Duke could as well when he was adjusting his glasses)
upstairs is in control. why? because the people downstairs are clones of the above. Lupita was above so long that she adapted and her clone (the real one) remained as is (i.e. she could talk).
So then why is it the Original Lupita never tried to control the tethered Lupita
no one knew they could be controlled until Jasons double showed him. Why he didn't tell anyone, i don't know.
 
no one knew they could be controlled until Jasons double showed him. Why he didn't tell anyone, i don't know.

If Jason was a double then he would know that he was being controlled down below but now he is free since he is above and he is in control.

Adelaide told the unburnt Jason, no, when he took control of the Red Jason. She was in distress as he walked into the fire.
 
I'm gonna have to watch this again.
Dude is brilliant as hell with his movie making.
Leaving you with so many unanswered questions, pretty much force you to spend more money to watch it twice to get a better concept of it.
Reason why we got so many unanswered questions is because the movie pick and chose when it wanted to explain things though.
 
I'm gonna have to watch this again.
Dude is brilliant as hell with his movie making.
Leaving you with so many unanswered questions, pretty much force you to spend more money to watch it twice to get a better concept of it.

This is my question (to the thread as a whole too) -- I dug the movie -- but if it didn't have the pedigree of Jordan Peele, Lupita and Winston Duke, would we be investing all this thought into finding the hidden meaning or would we brush it off as another avant-garde type of film? Because there was a film that came out about 5 years ago with a similar conceit called IT Follows that critics loved and was just as subversive, but came and went with audiences.

Now I'm not saying they're the same film, and there's no right or wrong answer when it comes to art, but I've seen films like Us get ignored before and the responses got me wondering if anyone else's name were on it would we really be alright with so many unanswered questions?
 
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