Mississippi’s Black Republicans stick with Hyde-Smith

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I'm asking where you're getting information to support your statement that there are "too many of them here that will allow this bitch to win."

because i haven't run into that argument from anyone black re this race and I have more political conversations than most
Your statement alluded to the fact that there is a contingent of those kinds of people here, my assertion is that, as someone on the ground and actively involved in the campaign, I have not (thankfully) run into any of those types with regard to this race.

So I was just wondering if you were saying that because you'd actually seen or experienced it somehow or if you were just talking. If it's the latter, you're hanging a negative on the black voters here undeservedly.

I'm currently phone banking for dude, so I may have taken it a lil personally because I'm proud of the solidarity I've been seeing here.
Mississippi’s Black Republicans stick with Hyde-Smith
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/midterms/article222177985.html


Biloxi, Mississippi - African American Republicans in Mississippi are standing by Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith in Tuesday’s Senate runoff, despite her comment expressing a willingness to attend a public hanging — a quip that’s triggered painful reminders of the state’s history of lynching blacks.

“I just choose to look at it as a possible mistake and chalk it up to that,” said John Mosley Jr., an African American Republican who ran for mayor of Moss Point, Mississippi, in 2017. “And I haven’t given it much thought afterward.”

In nearly a dozen interviews, African American Republicans said they are taking Hyde-Smith at her word when she said she meant “no ill will, no intent whatsoever” when she said at a Nov. 2 campaign stop that if a supporter invited her to a public hanging “I’d be on the front row.”

“I’m a Republican. I support Cindy Hyde-Smith,” said Charles Evers. “She didn’t say anything about black folks, she didn’t say anything about white folks. She just said ‘If there’s a hanging I’ll be in the front row’ or something like that. She didn’t mean nothing like that. She was just saying something. I don’t give a damn what other people think.“

Evers is the 96-year-old brother of the late Medgar Evers, a NAACP leader who was assassinated on June 12, 1963 outside his home in Jackson by Byron De La Beckwith, a member of the White Citizens Council. Two trials in 1964 resulted in hung juries. Beckwith was convicted of Evers’ murder on Feb. 5, 1994.

Tuesday’s contest is likely to hinge on turnout, which is usually low in runoff elections. Some local and national Republicans are concerned that Hyde-Smith’s remarks might energize more African American Mississippians to vote.

In the Nov. 6 primary to fill the remaining two years of retired Republican Sen. Thad Cochran’s term, Hyde-Smith received 4 percent of the black vote while 1 percent voted for conservative GOP firebrand Chris McDaniel, according to network exit polls.

Democrat Mike Espy received 91 percent of the black vote and 15 percent of the white vote. About one-third of all voters were black.

Hyde-Smith’s public hanging comment, coupled with a later remark about suppressing liberal votes — which she also called a joke — has turned Tuesday’s runoff against Espy, an African American, from what should have been an easy win in a ruby red Republican state into a potentially dramatic battle.

Espy still faces daunting odds to overtake Hyde-Smith, but her comments have reduced his chances from improbable to possible, political observers say.

“Am I predicting Espy is going to win? No,” said Marty Wiseman, former director of the John C. Stennis Institute of Government at Mississippi State University. “But he has a better chance than he had before and, yeah, it’s possible he would win.”

Republicans are worried enough about the outcome that President Donald Trump is traveling to Biloxi and Tupelo on Monday to hold rallies for Hyde-Smith, who has seen key donors, including Major League Baseball to Walmart, seek refunds of their campaign contributions because of her remarks, despite the apology she issued last week.



But several African American Republicans in the state are standing with Hyde-Smith, saying that, controversial comments aside, her conservative political record and beliefs closely align with theirs.

They feel that she would be a better partner in the Senate for Trump than Espy, President Bill Clinton’s former agriculture secretary.

Charles Evers, a civil rights activist, made history when he became the first African American to lead a biracial Mississippi town when was elected mayor of Fayette in 1969.

Though a Republican who backed Ronald Reagan and endorsed Trump, Evers said he voted for Democrat Barack Obama in 2008, helping to elect the nation’s first African American president.

He has no interest in helping elect Espy become become Mississippi’s first African American senator since Reconstruction.

“I just think Cindy Hyde-Smith will work more with the president,” he said. “Espy’s a friend of mine, and he’ll be fighting the president. We don’t need a senator that’s going to be fighting. The president is a supporter of Mississippi.”

The Rev. Charles McKinney, a black Republican and pastor of the Jesus Christ Baptist Church in Ocean Springs, said that Hyde-Smith’s opponents are “playing the race card” with her comments.

“It’s shameful,” said McKinney who, along with his two sons, were among the few African Americans at the Biloxi Monday. “It’s an insult to Mississippi for people to say we’ve had a racist public figure that has served so long and we didn’t know she was a racist. Don’t you think she could have hidden it three more weeks? No one believes Cindy is trying to bring back hanging blacks in Mississippi.”

Rogena Mitchell, an African American Republican from Vancleave, Mississippi, said she was “startled and concerned” about Hyde-Smith’s remark, especially given Mississippi’s lynching history.


Of 4,743 lynchings that occurred in the United States between 1882 and 1968, Mississippi accounted for 581, the most of any state, according to NAACP figures.

Hyde-Smith’s public hanging comment is appalling, Mitchell said, but it won’t stop her from voting for the incumbent senator on Tuesday.

“It’s not going to impact my vote,” said Mitchell, who unsuccessfully ran for Mississippi state senate in 2015. “As we face the scenario of a Republican versus a Democrat and the principles that both parties ascribe to, I’m going to have to support her regardless of her comments.”

Mosley echoed Mitchell’s sentiment.

“I do not believe in this political climate that those were probably the best choice of words, but I choose to stick with what I see as a possibility moving forward. I believe it’s going to be Sen. Hyde-Smith.”

Michael Steele, the first African American to head the Republican National Committee, said Hyde-Smith’s remark was either “a mistake” or she was “parroting the dog whistles we’ve already heard from Donald Trump on matters of race to stir passions for folks who may feel connected to such remarks.”

Seven percent of African Americans nationwide identify with the GOP, and black Republicans already face questions about how they be in a party that critics say opposes diversity cuts programs for the neediest.

Hyde-Smith’s recent remarks have prompted more questions for African Americans who stick with the Republican Party and back Hyde-Smith.

Nic Lott, a Republican who in 2000 was the first African American to be elected associated student body president at the University of Mississippi at Oxford, tweeted that comments like Hyde-Smith’s “are reasons why we can’t grow the party!”

“My fellow black Republicans know that it’s hard enough being Black and a Republican,” Lott, 39, tweeted earlier this month. “Don’t expect us to explain ridiculous remarks to our communities.”

Mitchell said she’s not going to condemn Hyde-Smith, or the Republican Party, over poor choices of words.

“When do-gooders do bad, it happens,” she said. “There are many folks in scripture who do bad things.”
 
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Mississippi can be a gold mine but first all the jim crow politicians and their coon helpers must go.

That state has been suffering a brain drain for decades. The young people are tired of the state being non progressive and years behind others when it comes to innovation. They instead go to places like Atlanta, Nashville, Houston, and Dallas.
 
I'm not even surprised anymore....

Samboism is on the rise

Not really. The she-devil is getting 4 percent of the black vote which is probably a point or two above the margin of error. The real point of all of these articles is try to deflect from the fact that the majority of white women continue to vote for Trump and Trump apologists. You can't say misogyny is a major issue if the majority of white women vote for actual misogynists. Only twenty-one percent of white women voted for Abrams in Georgia and yet every article was about the eleven percent of Black men that voted for Kemp. They are desperate for this to be an "issue" as opposed to an issue with white women.
 
Not really. The she-devil is getting 4 percent of the black vote which is probably a point or two above the margin of error. The real point of all of these articles is try to deflect from the fact that the majority of white women continue to vote for Trump and Trump apologists. You can't say misogyny is a major issue if the majority of white women vote for actual misogynists. Only twenty-one percent of white women voted for Abrams in Georgia and yet every article was about the eleven percent of Black men that voted for Kemp. They are desperate for this to be an "issue" as opposed to an issue with white women.

There's an unwritten rule in journalism, "don't attack/ blame white women." aka white women have to be protected at all costs.
 
That any black person in this day and age could be a republican is mindboggling.
This is the shit that perplexes me. Smaller government, balanced budget, non identity politics, etc. I can see that argument- don’t agree with it, but fine. But when one of these fucks say some repugnant shit, the black republicans are most crawling back to massa coons
 
Mississippi is pathetic

It's black people trying down there. The problem is and have always been racism and white supremacy. I mean this is the state flag
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As long as them rednecks keep winning state wide offices, Mississippi will remain behind. Like I said earlier the brain drain is real there and it is not just black people. Even the young white people are leaving that state as soon as they can.
 
Whomever you are replying to I must have on ignore.:lol:
Lol I'm talking about OP

Nigga said last week something about too many coons for the shit to work or something

I said I hadn't run across any and asked what made him say that. I guess the nigga been waiting to retroactively try to support that salt drop with this bs like a dozen coons list this race when black people are only 38% of the damn state.
 
Lol I'm talking about OP

Nigga said last week something about too many coons for the shit to work or something

I said I hadn't run across any and asked what made him say that. I guess the nigga been waiting to retroactively try to support that salt drop with this bs like a dozen coons list this race when black people are only 38% of the damn state.

With black people being 38% of the population there is a pathway for blacks to get political power. Keep organizing because one day Mississippi will become a place that the youth will want to stay in and talent will want to move to.

I would like to know what is the % of native Americans living in that state. My maternal grandmother was part Choctaw. I know hispanics(mainly Mexicans) are slowly seeping in as well but I would wager their numbers are probably on par with the Asians(Orientals and Indians) living there.
 
With black people being 38% of the population there is a pathway for blacks to get political power. Keep organizing because one day Mississippi will become a place that the youth will want to stay in and talent will want to move to.

I would like to know what is the % of native Americans living in that state. My maternal grandmother was part Choctaw. I know hispanics(mainly Mexicans) are slowly seeping in as well but I would wager their numbers are probably on par with the Asians(Orientals and Indians) living there.
I think so too, and the white population has been getting more progressive slowly so we'll see.

Native Americans are about half a percent and everything else is about 1% apiece. 60% CAC state.
 
I think so too, and the white population has been getting more progressive slowly so we'll see.

Native Americans are about half a percent and everything else is about 1% apiece. 60% CAC state.

Damn, I would've figured Native Americans were at least around 10%. They must have either left or they mixed with the black and white population.
 
Damn, I would've figured Native Americans were at least around 10%. They must have either left or they mixed with the black and white population.
Idk what it used to be, but I only see them niggas at parades and shit lol

Fuck this bitch ass thread for insinuating that black people lost this race though. That's some real white shit right there.
 
Mike Espy is about as good a candidate as they could have had. Shame
They split the vote in the original race because 15% of white folks voted for the guy that was farther right than Hyde Smith. So you know they weren't gonna just be like well you know what, let's vote for the ******* this time lol

The fact that he got 45% is incredible because it doesn't mean he got half of that 15%, it means she got all of it and Mike turned out enough of the vote to neutralize that shit by damn near 50% anyway.

He's got nothing to be ashamed of, and we got the curtain pulled back on a national level which has sparked progressives here and that's good.

Side note: republican governor stopped displaying the state flag at all the press events after the national media picked up the story. Only local people talking about it so far but we all noticed. They know that shit is poison.
 
They split the vote in the original race because 15% of white folks voted for the guy that was farther right than Hyde Smith. So you know they weren't gonna just be like well you know what, let's vote for the ******* this time lol

The fact that he got 45% is incredible because it doesn't mean he got half of that 15%, it means she got all of it and Mike turned out enough of the vote to neutralize that shit by damn near 50% anyway.

He's got nothing to be ashamed of, and we got the curtain pulled back on a national level which has sparked progressives here and that's good.

Side note: MS stopped displaying the state flag at all the press events after the national media picked up the story. Only local people talking about it so far but we all noticed. They know that shit is poison.

Keep organizing. Eventually the young people of the Magnolia State will have enough of being lead by Mayberry rejects and Aww shucks Wally Beaver bible thumping evangelicals. Once that happens innovation and progression will come to that state. Mississippi's PR department is smart for not displaying that fuck ass flag on television.
 
Keep organizing. Eventually the young people of the Magnolia State will have enough of being lead by Mayberry rejects and Aww shucks Wally Beaver bible thumping evangelicals. Once that happens innovation and progression will come to that state. Mississippi's PR department is smart for not displaying that fuck ass flag on television.
No doubt. I'm registered here but I'm a citizen of the world...the hourglass on my permanent residence been turned over for a while now. I just moved back 7 years ago, once I wrap a big project + 1 fiscal year of results I'm probably going back to Atlanta.

I'll always own a piece of this muhfucka though so I'm still invested. It's not all bad.
 
No doubt. I'm registered here but I'm a citizen of the world...the hourglass on my permanent residence been turned over for a while now. I just moved back 7 years ago, once I wrap a big project + 1 fiscal year of results I'm probably going back to Atlanta.

I'll always own a piece of this muhfucka though so I'm still invested. It's not all bad.

No doubt. When I see Jackson it reminds me of where Memphis was in the 80s and probably like Atlanta was in the 60s. If things continue to trend towards progressiveness, I can see Jackson being a leading southern city in about 30 years.
 
Not really. The she-devil is getting 4 percent of the black vote which is probably a point or two above the margin of error. The real point of all of these articles is try to deflect from the fact that the majority of white women continue to vote for Trump and Trump apologists. You can't say misogyny is a major issue if the majority of white women vote for actual misogynists. Only twenty-one percent of white women voted for Abrams in Georgia and yet every article was about the eleven percent of Black men that voted for Kemp. They are desperate for this to be an "issue" as opposed to an issue with white women.


This... All of it...
 
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