Live Debate: Tariq Nasheed vs Jared Taylor

[ankhheru]

Tariq I know you're reading this thread. Listen Pimpin'... Stop plagiarizing Neely Fuller. Every since you've been going down that road you've been losing credibility when you try and debate using his talking points. You and him is different folk. You a hustler and he real about it. That's why when you did it you fall flat on your face and he comes across with logic.

Listen to old man Ball and stay in your lane. Hustle documentaries and occasionally debate slow witted dudes like Jessie Lee Peterson. But don't keep plagiarizing Neely Fuller's work and you don't have the same mind that he has. Not saying you ain't intelligent but you and him ain't the same kind of intelligent.

 

[SKATTA]

There is no structure. It's keeping people on topic and not getting distracted by random talking points.

Plus it helps if you keep your emotions out of it.

My debate tactic is very similar to brother Malcolm. Stay calm, stay on topic, never let them off topic, and ask questions that challenges their hypocrisy. Facts help, but not always necessary.

This is what i try to tell some these young brothas i see at my work.

In life youre going to be challenged,whether its at work,by women,racism,sports arena etc....its important to not get overly emotional that will distort you throwing you of from making sensible,calculated, and structured decisions.

 

[exiledking]

Keep in mind, his documentaries are just stepping stones that use real scholars to break down shit.

It’s up to the buyer to use their own discretion to seek knowledge on their own.

What real scholars are in his documentaries?


Throw Umar out . Tariq did.


There's maybe 2

 

[YoungSinister]

BTW, Roland Martin, a man who Tariq helped to delegitimize, is another brother who would’ve made mince meat of these two gorillas.

Something to think about.

Nigga you better go ahead with that shit
That mumble mouth nigga got crushed by Richard Spencer. Cracka made him deny his Blackness on a Black network. Jared Taylor would have had him stuttering like Porky

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Wasn't familiar with Jared Taylor.

Did a quick search, saw he's a white supremacist/nationalist.

Why is Tariq "debating" white supremacists?

Probably because they are his neighbors

 

[exiledking]

i haven't peeped the debate
but of all people that he could debate, he chose Jared Taylor
He never stood a chance
Im sure the only reason he even attempted this shit was because Jason Black interviewed him

the debate was on my Youtube recommended screen and i saw that it was 15 min long
i knew something was up lol

Why are you guys so impressed with this Neely Fuller in the first place?

And Jared Taylor is not the least a formidable debate. He's dumber than Tariq, he just let Tariq do all the talking. His whole foundation is just as bogus as Tariqs.

 

[ak_rep]

20 minutes in. This dude is just "leading," I don't see any ownage here. It's pretty much a "conspiracy theorist" vs a comfortable "white supremacists."

This guy isn't going to admit to nothing. And Tariq is getting off his points.

"When all these asians," (shouldn't have said all) but when all these asians get over here, they're going to start doing their "nigga jokes." Dude said, "what?" We saw that with Watkins just earlier. Dude said, "what?" No counter. FOH! Denial.

This dude is leading. Trying to get Tariq emotionally flustered. Ignoring a lot of points.

Back to the rest of the discussion.

 

[ankhheru]

Why are you guys so impressed with this Neely Fuller in the first place?

And Jared Taylor is not the least a formidable debate. He's dumber than Tariq, he just let Tariq do all the talking. His whole foundation is just as bogus as Tariqs.

Was that directed at me?

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Damn yall making shit sound like

A bloodbath....

I ain't even gonna peep it.


Tariq should've just did a puppet show or

Some shit..

He could use some cac puppets or maybe

He too afraid to offend his neighbors.

Umar should debate this dude get some of

His credibility back

 

[tablebreaker]

Exactly

 

[ak_rep]

This guy is like like the wizard of oz to some of you. Hypotheticals. "So you believe, so you believe." He's in pole position. Not addressing points.

Unless he has some great summary to this discussion/ debate, I'm not seeing the ownage. This dude is elementary. My gosh. It's not even a creative assault on a "conspiracy theorist." He's just composed because he is riding the coats of whiteness. Par for the course.

 

[tablebreaker]

No. Let explain to you as concise as possible.
Intelligence has nothing to do with intent.
The phrase you can do anything if you put your mind to it sums up the history of White Supremacy and the reason it's not black supremacy or arab supremacy etc.

They have leeched off of others who were genuinely here to help. When the Mayflower landed and those cac's were going to die because they didn't know what to do, who took them in and showed them how to live? And how did they repay them? Now does that mean they were more intelligent than the Native Americans? NO. It meant that they planned to use the intelligence for EVIL.
You can try to argue that the Native Americans weren't smart enough to see that White People were Evil, but how would they know?
They've been interacting with BLACK people who came and broke bread for eons and never had any issues, so why would white ones cause trouble?

Intelligence doesn't account for intent.

This shit didn't happen over night and its ever evolving and being tweaked every single mother fucking day.
We can reverse the tide but it's going to be a process. One that will take everything we've got because they give it everything they've got.
From people creating laws to motherfuckers calling you the n word in youtube comments.

Would you agree that these devil's have more information than us?These devil's know more about us than we actually do..The one who knows more is smarter has nothing to do with intelligence..Niggas get all in they feeling when this is said but its true..We ain't kings and queens no more so kill that shit...The so called afro American in a invention of the U.S.government..

 

[Mr. Met]

Nigga you better go ahead with that shit
That mumble mouth nigga got crushed by Richard Spencer. Cracka made him deny his Blackness on a Black network. Jared Taylor would have had him stuttering like Porky

Roland made a few slip ups in that debate but he held serve. You judging that debate by one line.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Niggas on here always make things seem different than what they were.

 

[YoungSinister]

Roland made a few slip ups in that debate but he held serve. You judging that debate by one line.

LMFAO....
Roland Martin is not an intellectual.
...and Roland didn't hold shit in that debate. He was easily outclassed by that CAC

 

[ak_rep]

This guy is like, "oh wow, oh wow." No counter attacks. His baseline is to protect whats white, and can you prove it? Not nowhere identifying the tentacles of white dominance. Not once has he's done this. That is deceptive, not honest, and disingenuous, and some of you cats took the bait. We know the tentacles of white dominance, some of us, but he's like, you're imagining things. That's all he's doing thus far.

Again, unless there's some grand ownage summary, this isn't a debate, it's an interview. Tariq, "I'm fascinated," that's what he says, but he's in pole position. Of course, he's composed. Because he doesn't have to worry about much.

 

[Mr. Met]

What real scholars are in his documentaries?


Throw Umar out . Tariq did.


There's maybe 2

You mean with degrees? Shaharazad Ali ain’t legit? Claud Anderson, Michelle Alexander, Tony Browder, Joy Degruy?

All legit thinkers.

Don’t let Tariq’s slippage minimize his effect on increasing their platform.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Where is this dude owning Tariq exactly ??

This dude was lying his ass off. Tariq ass him if Blacks were less intelligent than whites why did they make up laws barring Blacks from reading when they were already less intelligent than whites according to Jarred and his reply was they didn't restrict Blacks specifically they restricted slaves so they wouldn't revolt. That doesn't make any sense at all.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Roland made a few slip ups in that debate but he held serve. You judging that debate by one line.

Nigga you better get the fuck outta here with this Roland Martin bullshit.

 

[ak_rep]

OMG. This dude has books in the background. A damn library. But comes with little to no original thought. Just a delusional computer. Not saying he has to come with some rhythm, but his stuff is being countered. He just doesn't really know what's going on. Quoting fox news. C'mon man.

 

[Joe Money]

Say what you want about Umar but he is formally educated and can express himself in an intellectually sound way when he wants to...Tariq on the other hand is a high school dropout street hustler who convinced a whole generation of mama's boys that he's smart by taking Claud Anderson, Neely Fuller, and Frances Welsing talking points and recycling them...add in the puppet shit and this nigga clearly is a clown who lucked up on a nice hustle and a dense broad who's main job is to be a baby factory...

Tariq has never had to actually debate any intellectuals. He's always debated clowns and trolls who call up his show where he can cut them off and control the debate.

You can't see he's never had an actual, serious debate

This. But people are overlooking that this is basically a hustle for Tariq and Baked Alaska. If you peep that other short video, Baked Alaska is hawking his merch just as Tariq does.

They need each other.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Jared hasn't made a single point. The whole IQ point he's spitting is a whole bunch of pseudo science.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Where is this dude owning Tariq exactly ??

This dude was lying his ass off. Tariq ass him if Blacks were less intelligent than whites why did they make up laws barring Blacks from reading when they were already less intelligent than whites according to Jarred and his reply was they didn't restrict Blacks specifically they restricted slaves so they wouldn't revolt. That doesn't make any sense at all.

OK here is this debate I have to hear it for myself....

 

[DaAssWatcher]

OK here is this debate I have to hear it for myself....

These dudes bias against Tariq is clouding their judgement. Anyone saying Jarred held any intellectual superiority in this debate says a whole lot about you and I side eyed Tariq over a few moves he's made before but he held his own even though he fell short a few times but it was more on him than on Jarred and the other white supremacist.

 

[exiledking]

You mean with degrees? Shaharazad Ali ain’t legit? Claud Anderson, Michelle Alexander, Tony Browder, Joy Degruy?

All legit thinkers.

Don’t let Tariq’s slippage minimize his effect on increasing their platform.

Anybody and I mean ANY BODY who would agree to appear in a film by that guy, ESPECIALLY after the first one literally gives up any consideration of being taken seriously.

Sharazad Ali is already a joke anyway. She's literally the precursor to Tariq. I remember buying flea market ass books people like her made. Looking at the titles and work of all those people , some of which I read , they're all jokes. Tariqs movies are just the same flea market books put to film.
.

Honestly anyone who would even "debate" these two loser CACS, for longer than a segment is a joke. It takes even less time to see how full of shit their actual views are than it would for Tariq. They're not who anyone should be talking to about white supremacy cause they're just two working class crackers. Literal crackers , as in lower class bums. And even they know more history than fuckin Tariq who's whole premise is just the flip side of theirs.


But I get it. It will take even more time for some of y'all to see it. Over all this time, what I've been saying has only been getting stronger

 

[exiledking]

These dudes bias against Tariq is clouding their judgement. Anyone saying Jarred held any intellectual superiority in this debate says a whole lot about you and I side eyed Tariq over a few moves he's made before but he held his own even though he fell short a few times but it was more on him than on Jarred and the other white supremacist.

There's not reason anyone should fall short even for a second against those idiots.

 

[exiledking]

This. But people are overlooking that this is basically a hustle for Tariq and Baked Alaska. If you peep that other short video, Baked Alaska is hawking his merch just as Tariq does.

They need each other.

Yup. Two sides of the same coin. Lower level simpletons. And the guy even said they trended high on YouTube.

Jared hasn't made a single point. The whole IQ point he's spitting is a whole bunch of pseudo science.

Whenever he did speak his own views his ignorance was exposed but dumbass Tariq opened with the stupidest premise ever and spent the rest of the time trying to back that shit up. When Jared started yapping his own actual position all ya have to do is let him talk. But on historical points, Tariq was so off, sometimes they actually looked smart. Compared to him.

 

[Mr. Met]

Anybody and I mean ANY BODY who would agree to appear in a film by that guy, ESPECIALLY after the first one literally gives up any consideration of being taken seriously.

Sharazad Ali is already a joke anyway. She's literally the precursor to Tariq. I remember buying flea market ass books people like her made. Looking at the titles and work of all those people , some of which I read , they're all jokes. Tariqs movies are just the same flea market books put to film.
.

Honestly anyone who would even "debate" these two loser CACS, for longer than a segment is a joke. It takes even less time to see how full of shit their actual views are than it would for Tariq. They're not who anyone should be talking to about white supremacy cause they're just two working class crackers. Literal crackers , as in lower class bums. And even they know more history than fuckin Tariq who's whole premise is just the flip side of theirs.


But I get it. It will take even more time for some of y'all to see it. Over all this time, what I've been saying has only been getting stronger

Michelle Alexander, Claud Anderson, Joy Degruy, Dick Gregory, all in #2 not to be taken seriously? Really?

And as for Jared, this debate should not have taken that long. As you can see in this clip and many of his lectures on YouTube Jared has a habit of sticking his foot in his mouth in 30 seconds or less.

Check how he blames the world’s ills on diversity only to say the solution is whites moving in on non whites and living under a European model.........lmbao!

 

[totto]

Anybody and I mean ANY BODY who would agree to appear in a film by that guy, ESPECIALLY after the first one literally gives up any consideration of being taken seriously.

Sharazad Ali is already a joke anyway. She's literally the precursor to Tariq. I remember buying flea market ass books people like her made. Looking at the titles and work of all those people , some of which I read , they're all jokes. Tariqs movies are just the same flea market books put to film.
.

Honestly anyone who would even "debate" these two loser CACS, for longer than a segment is a joke. It takes even less time to see how full of shit their actual views are than it would for Tariq. They're not who anyone should be talking to about white supremacy cause they're just two working class crackers. Literal crackers , as in lower class bums. And even they know more history than fuckin Tariq who's whole premise is just the flip side of theirs.


But I get it. It will take even more time for some of y'all to see it. Over all this time, what I've been saying has only been getting stronger

Tommy Sotomayor recycles alot of Mrs. Ali old material on the black family but Tommy is a coon, not a natural coon but a coon to keep the lights on, Tommy is actually a better debater than Tariq, Tommy is just a hard listen due to the constant hate and bashing but he really rehases alot of Ali old material.

Pretty much anyone would give Jared that work, anyone logical...

If Tariq focused on the military and the importance of all these presidents throwing 70% of the budget to bearing arms it would be a wrap. The military and cacs infatuation with guns and weapons are for power, Tariq doesn't understand that. If he really studied Frances C, he'd know this.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Would you agree that these devil's have more information than us?These devil's know more about us than we actually do..The one who knows more is smarter has nothing to do with intelligence..Niggas get all in they feeling when this is said but its true..We ain't kings and queens no more so kill that shit...The so called afro American in a invention of the U.S.government..

No. I'd say they did a great job of hiding our history because they made a considerable effort to do so.
Whereas we freely shared our knowledge, they took it, compartmentalized it and then white washed it.

 

[totto]

Michelle Alexander, Claud Anderson, Joy Degruy, Dick Gregory, all in #2 not to be taken seriously? Really?

And as for Jared, this debate should not have taken that long. As you can see in this clip and many of his lectures on YouTube Jared has a habit of sticking his foot in his mouth in 30 seconds or less.

Check how he blames the world’s ills on diversity only to say the solution is whites moving in on non whites and living under a European model.........lmbao!

Yeah whites can't carry a country without cheap labor, whites won't work for those wages... Jared is basically a idiot to the highest power selling fantasy to his fellow whites.... Tariq should know that.

They complain about immigration but if america got rid of all non whites tomorrow, they'd crumble... The backbone of this country is cheap labor.

 

[Snatch Goblin]

Where is this dude owning Tariq exactly ??

This dude was lying his ass off. Tariq ass him if Blacks were less intelligent than whites why did they make up laws barring Blacks from reading when they were already less intelligent than whites according to Jarred and his reply was they didn't restrict Blacks specifically they restricted slaves so they wouldn't revolt. That doesn't make any sense at all.

I'm only 30 mins in. But Tariq is making lots of unsubstantiated claims. The white guy only has to sit and point out the flaw in his claims (some of which are conspiracy theory) and how they point out contradictions in his previous claims. Tariq just rambles on and doesn't even think if the point he is about to make will contradict his previous points. Don't know how much further i'm going to go in this. Also Tariq uses the term white supremacist to often. It's easily debunked and and claims white supremacy on historical events that had nothing to do with white supremacy. Speak to the event not to the label you created for it.

 

[LennyNero1972]

Ehhh sounds like Tariq is outclassed here so far, my goodness this is not looking good.

 

[Soul On Ice]

BGOL never ceases to amaze me. 90% of this thread is going against the Black men who is debating a fucking white supremacist.

So he didn't get the cac to admit that WS is global?
So what he couldn't get the cac to prove that we have lower IQ's
That Peter Liang was innocent?
So what he said that cacs built the pyramids?

You guys hate hate TN so much you are willing to ignore pseudo science and truth twisting because a 70 yr old cac stayed stoic the entire time and thats good enough to crown him?

***Jay Z voice *** "Okay..."

 

[Diomedes3000]

Also Jared Taylor is in Jason Black's upcoming documentary; Race War...I'm sure he got paid for that, so all these niggas are giving shine to a guy that hates our guts yet wanna talk down to other black people at every turn? There the nerve to ask for donations for every new project? Thst hustle should dry up soon, but these niggas followers are idiots who will pay good money to hear the same shit repackaged 100 different ways...
After HC2, which actually included solutions from Dr Anderson, there really wasn't a need for anymore other than to line Tariqs pockets...nigga talking all that white supremacy shit while living in a 1.5 million dollar crib a few miles away from Chris Brown's LA spot...

Now you just hating a 1.5 million$ crib is not a lot in LA. That almost two working parents who are school teacher's in a good district.
All of the Hidden Colors have been good. They are not meant for people know a lot on the topics. I am in a couple serious study groups where people are scared to speak if they're new. I have learned some things I didn't know from each documentary.
Hidden Colors is a good thing for our people as well as 1804. You may not like him but the documentaries are solid.

The debating these fools the back and forth with Umar and others I do not like. He has done much good and the scholars he introduces our people too makes them able to earn money and reach more of our folks.

What is starting to happen with all of these fools is they are not building anything and are running their mouth constantly. The ancestors would not be pleased with their actions.
Social media hijacks our people from the real work that needs to be done. It give a false sense of Nation Building when people are sitting behind a keyboard thinking they living life or leading a revolution. We need our people to come out the Matrix and get back to doing real tangible shit.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Alight I just seen it an it wasn't that bad.

The ol nazi cac just kept Tariq on the defense

Avoided questions and whe Tariq had the nazi



On the hook he let him off and went back in defensive mode..

On example is when the nazi who is nowhere

Near as intelligent as he thinks he is.. He just

Keeps that smug look on his face as though he is really saying any thing of substance and he laughs as though he will retort with a point

And there is no point.

The smug ol nazi mentioned supreme Court justices and asked if

they were racist...

Tariq shut him a down by proving the Supreme Court had a history of racism. .

When the nazi realized his question showed how ignorant and subtly stupid he was for even asking it

he tried to cover it up by spewing hollow hypotheticals...

Tariq should've stayed on how the Supreme Court was used to specifically keep "black" people down....

And then place emphasis on how the smug nazi doesn't even realize this blatant fact..


Tariqs problem is he cares more about the attention and possible future financial gains

Then making a point...

I could mop the floor with that smug nazi

On this topic. ..of cac inferiority and their dire need to keep us down on an uneven playing field for them to prosper. ..


Tariq also had him when he mentioned how

The euro numbers were declining..

Tariq did a poor job in reading his opponent and using his emotions against him..

The nazi felt some kind of way when thinking

About the declining number of cacazoids..

One of the few times that smug look was on

His face...was knocked off..

Another point I wouldve easily thrown back

In that nazis pasty pink inferior face ..

Was when he said

if the USA needs more caucazoids why don't they just get them from

European countries...

All Tariq had to say was caucazoids are declining on a global scale countries like France England Germany etc are trying to stay

As "white" as possible they can't afford fo lose the few caucazoids they have to another country. .. And give up their majority...

It's a fact this country is making honorary cacs

Using asians Arabs and africans...

And that decrepit ol smug faced nazi knew
It.. He relied on facial expressions and keeping

Tariq on defense and Tariq fell for it

He didn't get slayed he just went for the Okey doke and missed so many opportunities to

Shut that notsee down

Umar would've slayed him....