NCAA rules North Carolina did NOT offer special academic benefits only to athletes
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Good lawyers, and NCAA members got greased. UNC alumni give 60 million annually to their athletic programs, I knew nothing would happen.
An extra benefit for an athlete is something the athletes receive, but no one else. Half of the students who took the "easy" classes were regular students. NCAA monitors athlete benefits, not academic curriculum or fraud.
An extra benefit for an athlete is something the athletes receive, but no one else. Half of the students who took the "easy" classes were regular students. NCAA monitors athlete benefits, not academic curriculum or fraud.
We good.
As a UNC Tar Hell fan let me say whew!!!
Every college has these courses to help their student athletes maintain their grades. I was lucky enough to get into one of these classes before. It was filled with freshman from all our sports. Class was at 8am. No one came or the professor cancelled class most days. I went to class maybe once a month. We had 2 papers for mid and final grade with no word minimum. Everyone got an A. If North Carolina was going down for that, 99% college that play major sports were going down also. NCAA had no choice but to let them go.
Who really thought they were gonna do something to UNC??? This just means they're gonna hammer the fuck out of Louisville.
Louisville is more valuable than UNC
??? In what universe???Louisville is more valuable than UNC
Maybe in Louisville.Louisville is more valuable than UNC
Kentucky now the most valuable program in college basketball
- By Chris Fisher
- Mar 31, 2:07pm • 1 min read
- UPDATE Mar 31, 2017, 2:07pm
(Photo: Jim Brown, USA TODAY Sports)
Earlier this week, the Associated Press tabbed Kentucky as the No. 1 college basketball program of all-time.
Now, the Wildcats are No. 1 in another category.
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According to an annual study, Kentucky is now the most valuable college basketball program in the country, worth an estimated $342.6 million, according to a report in the The Wall Street Journal.
The study, conducted by Ryan Brewer, an assistant professor of finance at Indiana University-Purdue University Columbus, reports that Kentucky's valuation is up $98.3 million from last year, enough to supplant archrival Louisville ($320.1M) for the No. 1 spot.
Brewer's numbers are based on factors such as revenues, expenses, risk, growth and more and reflects what each team would be worth if it could be bought and sold like a professional franchise.
Indiana, Duke and Kansas rounded out the top five, with Kentucky and Louisville the only schools valued in excess of $300 million.
Louisville had been No. 1 since 2011.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-most-valuable-program-in-college-basketball/
Great news.
The whole NCAA investigation was bullshit to begin with. The NCAA has no jurisdiction over what is or isn't taught at a university.
The so-called "fake" class was offered to anyone on campus, not just the athletes.
I knew about the class while I was there and could have taken it if I wanted, and I was not an athlete.
Sorry, Carolina haters but those banners ain't going anywhere.
The whole NCAA investigation was bullshit to begin with. The NCAA has no jurisdiction over what is or isn't taught at a university.
The so-called "fake" class was offered to anyone on campus, not just the athletes.
I knew about the class while I was there and could have taken it if I wanted, and I was not an athlete.
Sorry, Carolina haters but those banners ain't going anywhere.
You sound like a typical UNC hater.
Yeah there too.....
Great news.
The whole NCAA investigation was bullshit to begin with. The NCAA has no jurisdiction over what is or isn't taught at a university.
The so-called "fake" class was offered to anyone on campus, not just the athletes.
I knew about the class while I was there and could have taken it if I wanted, and I was not an athlete.
Sorry, Carolina haters but those banners ain't going anywhere.
So you're saying its just all good for the school to offer fake classes?
No, but that's not the responsibility of the NCAA.
That's the responsibility of the accreditation agency, which already had its say in the matter.
I've been a Tarheel fan since the days of Sheed and Stack but this is bull. UNC was smart on their end to cover their ass by getting non athletes in these classes as well. The NCAA aint stupid so if we see this, they know it. They just pick and choose who to punish.
Bro, every school has classes where you can get an easy passing grade, athlete or not. What about students who get an A for fucking the professor? Should the NCAA step in when that occurs too?
Kentucky now the most valuable program in college basketball
- By Chris Fisher
- Mar 31, 2:07pm • 1 min read
- UPDATE Mar 31, 2017, 2:07pm
(Photo: Jim Brown, USA TODAY Sports)
Earlier this week, the Associated Press tabbed Kentucky as the No. 1 college basketball program of all-time.
Now, the Wildcats are No. 1 in another category.
Get the latest UK news sent straight to your inbox with out EMAIL NEWSLETTER
According to an annual study, Kentucky is now the most valuable college basketball program in the country, worth an estimated $342.6 million, according to a report in the The Wall Street Journal.
The study, conducted by Ryan Brewer, an assistant professor of finance at Indiana University-Purdue University Columbus, reports that Kentucky's valuation is up $98.3 million from last year, enough to supplant archrival Louisville ($320.1M) for the No. 1 spot.
Brewer's numbers are based on factors such as revenues, expenses, risk, growth and more and reflects what each team would be worth if it could be bought and sold like a professional franchise.
Indiana, Duke and Kansas rounded out the top five, with Kentucky and Louisville the only schools valued in excess of $300 million.
Louisville had been No. 1 since 2011.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-most-valuable-program-in-college-basketball/
You're talking basketball when 1 is the states flagship institution, a public ivy, respected, while the other sold it's soul to be... Number 2 in their own state in everything... And I hate UNC... Muthafuckas told me no when I applied.
The NCAA oversees student athletes, not the every day student who fucks their teacher.
I know most schools have easy classes for players to take. Andy Katzenmoyer took "AIDS: What Every College Player Should Know" and "Golf." These kids aren't being educated. And if they're not gonna be educated, they should be paid. The reason for not paying student athletes is that they get hundreds of thousands of dollars in education. But we know that's not the case. These schools don't give a fuck about their education. Don't give a fuck about them graduating. They care about bowl money and endorsement money. The NCAA is allegedly in place to stop this shit. I just want them to do their actual job.
I remember I caught this chick fucking on cam before....., before she was popular.
You're talking basketball when 1 is the states flagship institution, a public ivy, respected, while the other sold it's soul to be... Number 2 in their own state in everything... And I hate UNC... Muthafuckas told me no when I applied.
Just take the L on this topic homie....
So if a female golfer, for example, fucked all her professors and happened to get passing grades is that the responsibility of the NCAA?
The issues you bring up, while valid, once again are not the responsibility of the NCAA. The quality of education being taught at schools is the responsibility of the agencies that give accreditation to the schools.
re Golf chick: The scenario you laid out would not only be the responsibility of the NCAA to investigate, it's a FELONY! (See University of Iowa lawsuit and settlement for more information)
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On its website, the NCAA prominently states, "It's our commitment -- and our responsibility -- to give young people opportunities to learn, play and succeed." And later, it says that "in the collegiate model of sports, the young men and women competing on the field or court are students first, athletes second."
This is hypocrisy at it's finest. In one breath they're saying it's their responsibility to ensure young people LEARN, play, and SUCCEED. The next they're saying it's not their responsibility to monitor WHAT student athletes are learning. Doesn't SUCCESS tie into that? How the hell can someone be academically successful by taking Golf classes or Pool Cleaning 101? How about the ones who were enrolled in ghost courses that just appeared on registrar records, but weren't actual courses people showed up to and learned anything?
With regards to UNC, that school is academically elite. We're not talking about a few players here or there who were shuffled into shitty classes.
The scandal at UNC involved thousands of athletes who, over 18 years, were funneled into classes that never met, where advisers fudged grades and accepted plagiarism so that athletes who were falling behind in class could remain eligible to play sports.
And while the NCAA may not have known about it real time, it knows about it now and is doing NOTHING about it.
Again, if this is how shit IS and is gonna continue to be, let's just take down all the pretenses. Let's stop pretending like we're not playing college players because they're getting educated. Let's stop trying to have it both ways and pay them. If not, let's make sure they're receiving quality educations. Let's make sure they graduate. The NCAA had an opportunity to set that standard with the UNC case. They chose not to. And this is coming from a Tarheel basketball fan.
Why??? Because no one who knows anything about colleges, and their reputation puts Louisville in the same galaxy as UNC, nor are they equal in the eyes of the NCAA, or most people outside the state of Kentucky. You basically compared a dude that just got money, but has no influence to a Vanderbilt.
This is true.
I mentored football players at a big 5 D1 school while in grad school. One kid in particular stood out; 5 Star talent; 1 Star academic brain. His first semester schedule was:
-Coaching of Track and Field
-Billiards
-Aquatics
-English
Also, this kid was on a full ride....but couldn’t type, which was evidenced by him planning to turn in a copy of his girls (out of state) research paper as his own (until I found out the day before it was due and spent 1/2 the night “recrafting” it so the scanner wouldn’t pick up blatant plagiarism; he’d also never heard of plagiarism). Dude had no business in college but he could catch and run and was a prize get. I left after the school year; somehow he graduated (I know who did his work); was a late round draft pick, got cut, wound up back at home in the streets and last I’d heard was trying to figure out how to walk again after getting involved in some street shit.
If these kids don’t MANDATE being in decent classes, the school will put them in whatever to keep
them eligible and when they have no more use for them cast them aside. The driven ones get a good degree and make it in the business or entrepreneurial world. The ones fortunate enough to get a degree, and maybe form a relationship with a school booster, end up making something of themselves or at least getting opportunities for work.
The ones that take classes just to stay eligible, and don’t hustle the game one way or another, they are fucked.
Also FWIW, football in particular; their fall schedules are ass; they have to take all the early classes, be done by 2p; practice, dinner/study table; film; rinse; repeat. It’s shitty.
Thats your opinion but me saying Louisville's program is more valuable than UNC's program is backed by actual facts...I said more valuable...you said in what universe...I put up facts...now you're going down some other road..
In advance of this weekend's Final Four of the NCAA men's basketball tournament, The Wall Street Journal released a study of the most valuable college basketball programs in the country.
Coincidentally, the team that finished on top was not in the NCAA tournament field this season. Louisville leads the list with a valuation of more than $300 million.
http://247sports.com/Bolt/LIST-College-basketballs-most-valuable-programs-44585128
Take the L
You're talking basketball when 1 is the states flagship institution, a public ivy, respected, while the other sold it's soul to be... Number 2 in their own state in everything... And I hate UNC... Muthafuckas told me no when I applied.
They denied the shit out of my too.
And they whopped our ass by 75 when I played at Winston Salem State.
I still fucks with them though
Google endowments and get back to me... You take the L, and it's not even close...
Shits bigger than basketball money, which is small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. What influence does Louisville actually have, they don't even run shit in their own state. You keep talking about basketball money, that's fleeting and doesn't factor. You think Texas is ever gonna get touched by the NCAA??? You think how much basketball or even football money is the reason they wont???
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Negro we are talking about the value of basketball programs.....stop
Louisville is more valuable than UNC
You said it was more valuable... Facts say that it isnt... Like I said, stand down... I even specified that I was talking about the the entire ball of wax, you then came with some 300 million dollar basketball program, like that means its more valuable as an institution. Naaaa homie, you tried too hard to be the contrarian and got shut down.
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