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Stewards declare Ferrari-Red Bull clash a racing incident
The Singapore stewards have decided to take no further action over the collision which saw both Ferraris plus the Red Bull of Max Verstappen eliminated at the start of Sunday’s race at Marina Bay.

Kimi Raikkonen made a strong getaway from fourth on the grid and was drawing alongside Verstappen on the inside as they approached Turn 1. But as polesitter Sebastian Vettel edged left, the Dutchman’s Red Bull became the meat in a Ferrari sandwich and all three made contact.

Raikkonen and Verstappen were out on the spot, while Vettel briefly continued to lead the race until spinning his heavily damaged car into retirement before the first lap was complete.

All three men were summoned by the stewards, who having reviewed all the evidence declared it a racing incident, finding no one driver wholly or predominantly to blame.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...ferrari-red-bull-clash-a-racing-incident.html

I call Bullshit to the Stewards decision. :angry: Vettle should at least get a grid penalty.
 
Stewards declare Ferrari-Red Bull clash a racing incident
The Singapore stewards have decided to take no further action over the collision which saw both Ferraris plus the Red Bull of Max Verstappen eliminated at the start of Sunday’s race at Marina Bay.

Kimi Raikkonen made a strong getaway from fourth on the grid and was drawing alongside Verstappen on the inside as they approached Turn 1. But as polesitter Sebastian Vettel edged left, the Dutchman’s Red Bull became the meat in a Ferrari sandwich and all three made contact.

Raikkonen and Verstappen were out on the spot, while Vettel briefly continued to lead the race until spinning his heavily damaged car into retirement before the first lap was complete.

All three men were summoned by the stewards, who having reviewed all the evidence declared it a racing incident, finding no one driver wholly or predominantly to blame.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...ferrari-red-bull-clash-a-racing-incident.html

I call Bullshit to the Stewards decision. :angry: Vettle should at least get a grid penalty.
Ii was the right decision. Vettle was defending his pole position into the turn.
 
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Was it me or there were a handful white women in the paddlock after the race? In Asia... (I watched the Sky UK broadcast)
 
Ii was the right decision. Vettle was defending his pole position into the turn.


Sorry that's bull, Vettle did not have that position do defend. Unless F1 adopted Nascar race rules, is to just drive your opponent into the wall. When approaching any turn the best overtaking advantage is a outside position you don't have to break as hard and you have the momentum of sling shot effect in that turn so you don't need to accelerate harder coming out of the turn to regain speed. The best tactical position is the inside position to block the person on the outside turn but your not supposed to cut off the car who already has the inside in trying to gain that position. Vettle cut off Verstappen because 1. he (Vettle) didn't check his mirrors and 2. he under estimated Verstappen quick acceleration due to RedBull tire choice. Remember Ferrari was on Full Wet, RedBull and Mercedes were on Intermediates, Ferrari already lost from the start.
 
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That still do not establish Vettle had the lane if anything that tells me Vettle was deliberate with his actions to cut off Verstappen and mind you the turn 50+ feet away they're not nowhere near full speed and Räikkönen is more at fault he made first contact leaving Verstappen without any options whether to turn on slow down. Put this way both Vettle and Raikkonen angled in on Verstappen to choke him off and failed. They should get a grid penalty.
 
Is Sebastian Vettel Crumbling Under the Pressure of Being a Ferrari Driver?


When we look at greatness and success in sport, we often make comparisons. In F1, this usually consists of comparing a currently successful driver to one of past success. Lewis Hamilton and Ayrton Senna are two that come to mind.

Another pairing is Sebastian Vettel and Michael Schumacher. Both are German, both have multiple world titles. However, both have a reputation of being naughty boys.

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Michael Schumacher was win-at-all-costs. He infamously tried to win a couple of championships by simply driving into his nearest challenger — eerily similar to what Sebastian Vettel tried on his title rival in Azerbaijan this past June. It’s not the first time in his career that he’s shown unsportsmanlike behaviour.

At the 2013 Malaysian Grand Prix we witnessed the infamous “Multi 21” incident. Vettel —driving for Red Bull at the time — was in second place behind his team mate Mark Webber. In the closing laps, the team instructed the drivers to remain in formation. Webber ran with car #2, Vettel #1. Hence the instruction on the radio to both drivers was “multi 21” — driver #2 stays in front of driver #1 until the checkered flag. But Seb had had other ideas.

Vettel forced his his way past Webber to take the victory. Win at all costs — no holds barred. It’s what you have to do as a champion. But it was clear that Vettel had decided he was bigger than the team — the very one that had provided him with machinery to win multiple World Titles. To say there was sour grapes in the aftermath would be an understatement.

That was four years ago, but little has changed with Seb’s demeanour. He’s been in the stewards’ bad books on multiple occasions this past year. But he’s not driving for Red Bull anymore; he’s driving for the prestigious Ferrari team. Ferrari expects a lot from its drivers. Either you perform well or you’re replaced. It’s as simple as that. Ferrari doesn’t hire young drivers, it doesn’t try out new talent. Ferrari only wants the best of the best and its goal is to win as many titles as possible.

To first understand why Vettel putting himself under pressure is such a bad thing, let’s take a look at the FIA Super Licence Penalty Points system. If a driver gets in trouble with the stewards during a race, one of the punishment options is penalty points on that driver’s Super License. If the driver reaches 12 points, they receive a one race ban.

However, the points added at that particular race get deleted after 12 months. The driver with the most penalty points so far in 2017 is Toro Rosso’s Daniil Kvyat: he sits on 10. Next comes Kevin Magnussen of Renault with seven. And the final place on the penalty points podium goes to: Sebastian Vettel, also with seven.

Vettel picked up six points last season. At the British Grand Prix last July, he forced Felipe Massa off the track. Two penalty points. At the 2016 Malaysian Grand Prix — the next race on the 2017 calendar — Vettel caused a collision with Nico Rosberg. That’s two more points.
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But the biggest outrage of last year has to be what happened at last year’s Mexican Grand Prix. After have driving dangerously in a battle with Daniel Ricciardo, Vettel went on a foul-mouthed tirade about how the stewards were being unfair to him. He even called out FIA Race Director Charlie Whiting, calling him an expletive we’re not allowed to publish. Sebastian was very lucky to escape with just two penalty points.

But the hot-headed Vettel hasn’t learned his lesson just yet. At this year’s Azerbaijan Grand Prix, the Ferrari driver drove into the side of his title rival Lewis Hamilton after complaining Hamilton had brake-checked him under the Safety Car. The data showed that Hamilton did nothing wrong, yet Vettel refused to hear it. He later apologized but received three more penalty points.

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It didn’t stop there, though. At last weekend’s Singapore Grand Prix, Vettel had a bad start off pole position. Max Verstappen and Kimi Raikkonen both got much better starts and were alongside Vettel almost instantly. Realizing this, Vettel veered all the way across the track, pinching Verstappen in between both Ferraris. This caused a massive collision, ending the race for all three drivers.

Sebastian got away with it, too. The stewards deemed it a racing incident. But the bigger picture here is he might have just thrown his 2017 World Title away. He was only three points behind his rival Lewis Hamilton before Singapore. He’s now a massive 28 points adrift. At a race where Ferrari was set to dominate, in a season where it had a chance at its first Driver’s Championship in 10 years.

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Scuderia Ferrari has lofty expectations. It’s the most successful team in the history of the sport. It’s also been in it the longest. The team has such a strong pull that it can veto rules decisions and has the final say against the wishes of the other teams. Ferrari is part of the F1 furniture.

So is Vettel finding it too much at the Scuderia? Is he trying too hard? The team has gone on record to say it adores him. He just signed a new three year deal. The team likes Vettel so much that there was a clause in his old contract that prevented Fernando Alonso from becoming Vettel’s team mate. Alonso is arguably the best driver on the current F1 grid.

This is very reminiscent of what made Michael Schumacher special. Schumacher built the team around him. Everybody was there to make sure he won. His team mate was simply there as support. In Schumi’s day, this role went to Rubens Barrichello. This has been recast in 2017 as Kimi Raikkonen, with Vettel the leading man.

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Sebastian did this somewhat at Red Bull, where he won four consecutive World Championships. The team revolved around him. But Ferrari is a different kind of beast. If Vettel can temper his emotions and tame this beast, he might just become one of the true Ferrari greats. His titanic title battle this year with Lewis Hamilton of Mercedes has been one for the ages. But has the pressure from driving for Ferrari got the better of Seb?

Vettel seems so eager to mimic what his hero Schumacher did at the red team that he can’t stop himself from seeing red. Vettel is certainly replicating one thing from Michael; getting hot under the collar, moaning and somehow getting by with a slap on the wrist.
 
VIDEO: The best onboard action from Singapore
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2017/9/f1-video-best-onboard-singapore.html


When the rain began to fall ahead of Sunday's Grand Prix in Singapore, it was clear we were set for a thrilling ride. Here's our pick of the best action - all from the driver's perspective...

Singapore squeeze

After Ferrari had pointed the finger of blame at Max Verstappen, and the Dutchman had thrust it straight back in the direction of Sebastian Vettel, the stewards determined that no driver was ‘wholly or predominantly' at fault for Sunday’s dramatic start-line shunt. What’s certain, as this unique three-way split shows, is that everything happened at lightning speed and once the touch paper had been lit there was no stopping the chain reaction of events that followed...

On board video from all three cars, from what I can tell Verstappen held his position. Don't see how Ferrari even thought about placing blame on him. And the stewards determination no driver was wholly at fault is bull. And if you watch the Hamilton video you can see where Vettle was driving like nothing happen, he's a far more experienced driver to not know his car was extensively damage.
 
Lewis Hamilton has spoken on the kneeling issue.

http://en.f1i.com/news/280648-lewis-hamilton-defends-take-knee-nfl-protests.html

World championship leader Lewis Hamilton has defended the peaceful protests by players from the American National Football League.

Teams across the United States reacted this weekend to President Trump's rant last week about players who took the knee during the national anthem, calling on NFL owners to fire players who protest.

Hamilton, Formula 1's first black driver, posted on Sunday on his Instagram account a picture of Martin Luther King Jr. with the hashtag #takeaknee in support for players and athletes who opt to kneel during the "The Star Spangled Banner".

The Mercedes driver took to Instagram again on Monday, posting a picture of football player Colin Kaepernick who protested racial inequality last year, and encouraging his fans to educate themselves on the current matter.

 
Sorta got used to NBCSN but if you wanna grow F1 in America it has to move to ESPN.

ESPN secures U.S. Formula One rights from 2018


Formula One and ESPN have agreed to a multi-year linear and digital partnership to broadcast every race live in the U.S. from the start of the 2018 season.

Beginning with the Australian Grand Prix, every race will air live on the either ESPN, ESPN2 or ABC. The package will include every practice and qualifying session and involve more than 125 hours of F1 programming across the first season.

"ESPN has had a long commitment to motorsports, and Formula One is a crown jewel in the sport," said Burke Magnus, ESPN executive vice president of programming & scheduling. "There are many passionate Formula One fans in the U.S. and we look forward to bringing the pageantry, spectacle and excitement of F1 to viewers across the ESPN platform."

"We are excited about the return of the world's foremost motor racing platform to the ABC and ESPN platforms," said Sean Bratches, managing director, commercial operations at Formula 1. "ABC's Wide World of Sports first started airing live grands prix in the early 1960's and this linear and digital partnership with ESPN represents a significant step forward in achieving Formula 1's aim of broadening the sport's appeal.


"The U.S. market is a very important growth opportunity for Formula 1 and we are looking forward to working with ESPN to ignite the growing fan interest."

ESPN affiliate ABC broadcasted the first race aired in the U.S., the 1962 Monaco Grand Prix, shown on its Wide World of Sports programme. Select races continued to appear on the network until 1988.'

ESPN began televising F1 races in 1984 with a 10-race deal, expanding to 14 races for the next four seasons and 15 from 1989-1993. The number continued to rise each season until 1997, the last year F1 appeared on ESPN.

Full 2018 broadcast schedule:

March 25 - 12:55 a.m. - Australian Grand Prix -ESPN2
April 8 - 1:55 a.m. - Chinese Grand Prix - ESPN2
April 15 - 10:55 a.m. - Bahrain Grand Prix - ESPN2
April 29 - 8:55 a.m. - Azerbaijan Grand Prix - ESPN2
May 13 - 7:55 a.m. - Spanish Grand Prix - ESPN2
May 27 - 7:55 a.m. - Monaco Grand Prix - ESPN
-3:30 p.m. - Monaco Grand Prix ABC (re-aired)
June 10 - 1:55 p.m. - Canadian Grand Prix ESPN
June 24 - 7:55 a.m. - French Grand Prix - ESPN2
July 1 - 7:55 a.m. - Austrian Grand Prix - ESPN2
July 8 - 7:55 a.m. - British Grand Prix ESPN
July 22 - 7:55 a.m. - German Grand Prix - ESPN2
July 29 - 7:55 a.m. - Hungarian Grand Prix - ESPN2
Aug. 26 - 7:55 a.m. - Belgian Grand Prix - ESPN2
Sept. 2 - 7:55 a.m. - Italian Grand Prix ESPN2
Sept. 16 7:55 a.m. Singapore Grand Prix - ESPN2
Sept. 30 - 7:55 a.m. - Russian Grand Prix - ESPN2
Oct. 7 - 12:55 a.m. Japanese Grand Prix ESPN2
Oct. 21 - 2:55 p.m. - United States Grand Prix - ABC
Oct. 28 - 2:55 p.m. - Mexican Grand Prix - ABC
Nov. 11 - 10:55 a.m. - Brazilian Grand Prix - ESPN2
Nov. 25 - 7:55 a.m. - Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - ESPN2

 
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