Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
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This is why I watched the episode tonight. The quality wasn't the best, but I knew in between Wednesday and Sunday night idiots were going to be dropping spoilers like birds drop shit. I wasn't going to be able to make it. It would have been like having to work the night of the Super Bowl and not being able to watch it until the following Tuesday and avoiding all information about who won.A BAN is in order.
It's an impossibility.
cool pic from that twitter page above ("A Girl's Journey"). I like how they got Ned, Jagen and Sansa/Litttle Finger observing her as in the show:
I still like how Stannis gave Jon that lil head nod at the end, even though he didn't even know what happened. He was on some "I see you had to handle your business and I respect that" shit!
I loved the dialogue between them all at the beginning of this episode.
Benjen can't pass the Wall anyway. And the wights killed him at the end.
I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but it's a stark contrast to the earlier seasons, where traveling itself was a major part of the plot.
- I think Arya was subtly telling Sansa to kill Littlefinger. That's why she gave her the dagger. Then she's going to take his face.
- I don't see how that killed any kind of hooking up scenario between Jon and Dany.
- The Sam and Gilly scene wasn't throwaway because she said Rhaegar and Lyanna got married. It means that Jon really isn't a bastard.
- I don't see how that killed any kind of hooking up scenario between Jon and Dany.
- The Sam and Gilly scene wasn't throwaway because she said Rhaegar and Lyanna got married. It means that Jon really isn't a bastard.
that was never a prediction...was a spoiler straight from the start...those posters were all fake and dudes ran w/ their "predictions" off the strength of that
I read the spoilers earlier this year but I wish I didn't...most of the spoilers I read centered around this episode...completely deflated it for me
Yeah he fucked them.
That wight was like fuck waiting lol
He wanted to put hands on the Hound.
No spoilers here
Man....This ninja right here.....is a scene stealer!
http://fandom.wikia.com/articles/tormund-brienne-epic-love-story-100-want-see
Fans of Game of Thrones have begun shipping what may be the most unexpected duo: Tormund Giantsbane and Brienne of Tarth and we are loving it.
Where it started:
Tormund stares in awe after seeing Brienne for the first time at Castle Black.
In Season 6, Episode 4, “Book of the Stranger“, as Jon Snow was preparing to depart Castle Black, we finally got the Stark family reunion we had been waiting for since the first season (Though now that we have it, do we actually want it? But I’ll save you from my Sansa-better-not-betray-Jon speech this time).
Though perhaps the most important thing that reunion brought us was our new favorite Game of Thrones ship: Briemund.
The look on Tormund’s face as he watches Brienne ride into Castle Black is fanfiction worthy. (No really, there’s a ton of Briemund fanfiction out there! There’s also amazing fan-art out there too.)
But that look was only the beginning. Since then, we’ve watched Tormund’s very adorable attempt to seduce Brienne.
Tormund attempting to seduce Brienne over dinner.
Not surprising though, Brienne is not falling for any of his tactics.
Tormund giving Brienne his most charming smile as they get ready to head for Winterfell.
No really, she’s not falling for any of them. Yet he keeps trying. Maybe she’ll find his persistence endearing? (A girl can dream, right?)
Where we are now:
In the season premiere, we got a little moment between the two to break up the tension.
Tormund watching Brienne do what she does best in the Season 7 premiere.
Tormund letting Podrick Payne know how lucky he is to be defeated by Brienne in the Season 7 premiere.
Tormund watched as Brienne practiced fighting with her squire, Podrick Payne, and couldn’t help but to take the opportunity to express his devotion to her, just as he had last season, without subtlety.
Then last week at Comic-Con, when asked about her thoughts on the Tormund/Brienne romance, actress Gwendoline Christie gave the most bad-ass response.
“What I love about Brienne of Tarth is I don’t think that at the foremost of her consciousness is a value system that’s based on how men appreciate her. But, who doesn’t like being appreciated as both [a woman and a warrior]?”
Then when asked about what Tormund would have to do to win over Brienne, she answered,
“Really, to win Brienne’s heart, it’s all about mutual respect. It isn’t about any sort of overpowering or sexual advance. It has to be about a mutual respect that’s born out of skill and an ability about your ideas.”
So it seems Tormund is going to have to step up his game if he plans on winning Brienne’s heart anytime soon – or before either of them are killed off the show if we’re being completely honest with ourselves.
Why we love it:
So it seems Tormund is going to have to step up his game if he plans on winning Brienne’s heart anytime soon – or before either of them are killed off the show if we’re being completely honest with ourselves.
The reason why Tormund and Brienne seem like the perfect pairing is that they’re both so badass and independent. Imagine what a power couple they could be if they joined forces! The look Tormund gave Brienne when he first saw her sums it up. They’ve both met their matches, whether Brienne would ever admit it or not.
And although Tormund seems to be strictly seducing her for now, there’s obviously a level of respect for her as a warrior and as a woman.
On top of that all, it’s great to see a woman like Brienne, who breaks the norms of what it means to be a female and makes us all rethink femininity, being appreciated for how resilient and beautiful she is.
It’s about time!
No spoilers here.
If there was any doubt that Gendry was the son of this dude.....
:44 second mark
If there was any doubt that Gendry was the son of this dude.....
:44 second mark
For those who have issues with the show's "beats," pacing and accelerated timelines....you are not alone. I usually forget about the pacing after I have viewed the episode more than once and get lost in the action scenes. But...the (dire)wolves are still coming...I guess.
This Season of Game of Thrones Would Have Benefited from More Episodes
http://www.tv.com/news/game-of-thrones-season-7-needed-more-episodes-15028147060012460/
The 'Game of Thrones' pacing is completely messing with our heads
http://mashable.com/2017/08/02/game-of-thrones-pacing-season-7/#V84rEvVg35qW
On Game of Thrones, the Cracks Are Beginning to Show
Rob Bricken
Monday 11:00am
I wish I meant that there are cracks showing on the stoic facades of the rival queens, or the troubled relationships between siblings, or between the massive, but fractured partnership that forms at the end of the episode. Instead, I mean the TV series itself—because last night there were too many problems to ignore.
If Game of Thrones started its sprint to the season seven finish line in “Stormborn,” then “Eastwatch” is the episode where the show stumbled, fell down, and scrambled madly in an attempt to maintain its top speed. It was often sloppy and it was frequently shoddy, but man did it still move the story along as quick as it possibly could, no matter what the cost.
And there were costs. There were several interesting things in the episode that would have been wonderful if the show could have explored in more depth, as it has in the past. Daenerys has listened to Tyrion, Varys, and even Jon Snow’s pitches about how to lead the world and make it a better place for all people (i.e. peasants). Now Daenerys takes all the Lannister prisoners from the battle, and ask them if they want to bend the knee and help make the world a better, kinder place for everyone with her or if they want to die horribly. (Sam Tarly’s horrible father and reasonable-seeming brother Dickon choose dying horribly.)
After failing to convince his Queen that a more merciful, less deadly approach may be called for, Tyrion—already shaken by the sheer destructive power of the dragons, seen while he walks through the ashes of the battlefield—heads straight for the wine, and even Varys takes a drink, as they contemplate Dany’s “join me or die” approach. They don’t think she’s a new Mad King, but the fact they feel the need to bring it up at all is telling. But they have hope Dany can be advised to become a more merciful, less murder-y queen—but they’re a hell of a lot less sure than they were before they left Essos. Is Daenerys really the savior the people of Westeros need?
As for the other queen, Cersei isn’t pretending she’s going to make the world a better place for anyone but the people she loves… and she’s not even sure about them. After Bronn leads Jaime to a surprise meeting with Tyrion—another reunion that could have used some more time!—Jaime goes up to his sister to tell her about the armistice Daenerys is offering. But, thanks to Qyburn, Cersei knew about the meeting, and greets Jaime as the queen, not the sister who loves him.
She talks with utterly fake-pleasantness about how Bronn betrayed Jaime, how Jaime betrayed her, how Tyrion murdered their father and son—as which point Jaime corrects her, revealing that Olenna Tyrell confessed to poisoning Joffrey. Cersei drops her mask, infuriated that Olenna was killed quickly and painlessly instead of torturously, despite the fact Cersei had already murdered the rest of her family. But Cersei recovers to tell Jaime the good news—she’s having another baby, and this time she’s going to tell everyone who the real father is. Jaime is genuinely choked up at the idea that he will publically have a child… which is when Cersei threatens him to never betray her again. Count how many times Cersei says “betray” in this scene—and you can see her mask crack a little more each time, revealing someone who will happily watch all of King’s Landing burn rather than let her “enemies” win.
There could have been interesting scenes like these, except the show just couldn’t be bothered to give them some time. Tyrion’s tense, tearful secret meeting with Jaime was more of an uber-brief plot-dump than anything else. Jorah’s triumphant return to his khaleesi was blah, especially because he immediately left with Jon Snow for the North. Even beyond the bare hints of the love-triangle between them—it’s basically only Jon and Jorah giving each other the mildest of side-eyes when the other is looking at Dany—they’re two wildly different characters. It would be cool to watch them interact together, get to know each other more.
Especially when Davos and Gendry, Robert Baratheon’s bastard son, whom Davos found (Was there a “still rowing” joke? There was!) and who immediately decided he wanted to travel with these cool new guys Davos knows north of the Wall to capture a wight to convince Cersei (and Daenerys, let’s be real) that the army of the dead exists. Like, even just a single scene of them on a ship together, just measuring each other up. But nope! They all travel to Eastwatch together off-screen, where they meet up with Tormund Giantsbane… and also find Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr, and Sandor Clegane, waiting for them, too. The time for them all to decide to head beyond the Wall together to find a wight, despite the fact many of them hate each other a great deal: about two minutes.
This show’s utteral refusal—it was so harried last night it almost felt like fear—to never stand still for a moment is producing ridiculous results. Case in point: The show flat-out began with Bronn hauling the fully armored Jaime out of the lake on the far side, and they’re both only mildly exerted by traveling 40 or so feet underwater. The show doesn’t even bother trying to explain away the impossibility of this, apparently fully content to have had a cool cliffhanger in the previous episode over something that makes any sort of sense.
There was the immensely aggravating scene of Sam at the Citadel; first he just happens to be bringing busywork into a room with the maesters are discussing and summarily dismissing a note from Bran and his maester about an army of the dead is just outside the Wall. Sam gives a stirring speech about it, about the importance of maesters using their wisdom to help people, about how the threat is real because he’s seen these things himself—and of course he gets dismissed. It’s such a cliché, but it’s less annoying than Sam’s decision to steal about five to 10 seemingly random books, flee Oldtown, and quit Maester school later that night, along with Gily and Lil’ Sam. Unless those books include Fighting White Walkers for Dummies or something—and we have no reason to suspect what they’re all about—Sam just finished a six-episode internship to cure Jorah and clean shit. What a great use of everybody’s time.
But nothing, and I mean nothing, was worse than the bullshit going on in Winterfell. If I may? (clears throat)
Why is Arya giving Sansa shit about ruling Winterfell? They’ve just met again after years of hardships. Perhaps Arya could stay polite a bit longer instead of basically accusing her sister of undermining Jon? Also how is Sansa undermining Jon by reminding all the grumpy lords of the North that yes, Jon is still their king?
Who cares if Sansa wants to rule Winterfell anyway? She’s spent years dealing with rulers and politics and learning how to manipulate people. This is a job she’s incredibly suited for that Jon is terrible at, which we know because not only did he abandon his people to go south to meet with a foreign invader, and instead of going home he then traveled to Eastmarch to personally find an ice zombie despite the fact there are many, many other people who can do that. Jon left a mess, still hasn’t come home to fix it, and Sansa’s trying to keep it all together as best she can—for Jon.
Why is Arya suddenly so terrible at sneaking? Why wouldn’t she at least use someone else’s face when stalking Littlefinger?
Why does that note that Cersei forced Sansa to write to Winterfell against her will, that Ned had been rightfully killed as a traitor, mean anything? Is Arya going to suddenly think Sansa was really happy back in King’s Landing and super-pro-Lannister? That she married Ramsay Bolton for political gain? That’s so dumb it makes my teeth hurt.
Is Littlefinger playing for much more low-stakes discord? That because Arya discovered he hid the letter, she’ll think he must be up to something, tell Sansa, Sansa will get pissed Arya broke into his chambers further driving a wedge between the two sisters? Uh, everyone knows Littlefinger is up to something all the time, especially Sansa. She should see through this shit a mile away.
The final question here isn’t “Is Sansa going to usurp Jon Snow?” It’s “Shouldn’t Sansa usurp Jon Snow?” Jon is so busy trying to save the world—and hey, good on him for that—that he’s not serving the North, and the North is fracturing because of it. The dumb, fickle Lords are already ready to ditch the newest King in the North for someone who actually stays in the North, and clearly a stable, present leader would make the North stronger and more united. Honestly, if Jon doesn’t get home to fulfill his duties as a king, Sansa may be forced to usurp him if she wants to hold the North together at all.
That’s not my point. My point is the show is moving so relentlessly fast that things feel rushed and unearned, scenes and characters aren’t given time to breathe, and the storytelling is suffering as a result—at least when there’s not a dragon to distract us. The show has completely abandoned its pretense of having a reality of time and space, from Jaime’s immediate saving by a Bronn ex machina to the borderline absurd way the episode managed to end with Jon Snow, Jorah Mormont, Gendry, Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr, and the Hound—few of which have ever met each other—suddenly all going on a mission together to find an ice zombie. Their conflicts were presented as an infodump of all the reasons they don’t like each other, specifically so they can be swept under the rug and they can be shoved out the Wall door before the credits roll. But better that than the poor Stark women, who now have their own conflict thanks to having gotten caught up in Littlefinger’s Scheming 101, as if they had suddenly forgotten Littlefinger taught scheming at Westeros University. These characters know better than this, and I’m afraid the show, in its desire to keep at top speed, is willing to ignore whatever fact/obstacle it thinks might be in it way.
I know this season is almost at an end—only two more episodes!—and season eight will only have six. But while these episodes have all been packed, the craftsmanship seems to be suffering. “Eastwatch” feels like it was an episode made for speed not quality, to get certain characters in certain places and situations for the next round of the Game. I guess my biggest problem is that I’m not convinced in the next episode, they won’t just do it again.
I mean, I had thought the showrunners were racing through these episodes to get to the epic final season, to get everything in place for the Game’s final round. Now I’m thinking they just want to be done playing the game entirely.
Assorted Musings:
This Season of Game of Thrones Would Have Benefited from More Episodes
http://www.tv.com/news/game-of-thrones-season-7-needed-more-episodes-15028147060012460/
The 'Game of Thrones' pacing is completely messing with our heads
http://mashable.com/2017/08/02/game-of-thrones-pacing-season-7/#V84rEvVg35qW
On Game of Thrones, the Cracks Are Beginning to Show
Rob Bricken
Monday 11:00am
I wish I meant that there are cracks showing on the stoic facades of the rival queens, or the troubled relationships between siblings, or between the massive, but fractured partnership that forms at the end of the episode. Instead, I mean the TV series itself—because last night there were too many problems to ignore.
If Game of Thrones started its sprint to the season seven finish line in “Stormborn,” then “Eastwatch” is the episode where the show stumbled, fell down, and scrambled madly in an attempt to maintain its top speed. It was often sloppy and it was frequently shoddy, but man did it still move the story along as quick as it possibly could, no matter what the cost.
And there were costs. There were several interesting things in the episode that would have been wonderful if the show could have explored in more depth, as it has in the past. Daenerys has listened to Tyrion, Varys, and even Jon Snow’s pitches about how to lead the world and make it a better place for all people (i.e. peasants). Now Daenerys takes all the Lannister prisoners from the battle, and ask them if they want to bend the knee and help make the world a better, kinder place for everyone with her or if they want to die horribly. (Sam Tarly’s horrible father and reasonable-seeming brother Dickon choose dying horribly.)
After failing to convince his Queen that a more merciful, less deadly approach may be called for, Tyrion—already shaken by the sheer destructive power of the dragons, seen while he walks through the ashes of the battlefield—heads straight for the wine, and even Varys takes a drink, as they contemplate Dany’s “join me or die” approach. They don’t think she’s a new Mad King, but the fact they feel the need to bring it up at all is telling. But they have hope Dany can be advised to become a more merciful, less murder-y queen—but they’re a hell of a lot less sure than they were before they left Essos. Is Daenerys really the savior the people of Westeros need?
As for the other queen, Cersei isn’t pretending she’s going to make the world a better place for anyone but the people she loves… and she’s not even sure about them. After Bronn leads Jaime to a surprise meeting with Tyrion—another reunion that could have used some more time!—Jaime goes up to his sister to tell her about the armistice Daenerys is offering. But, thanks to Qyburn, Cersei knew about the meeting, and greets Jaime as the queen, not the sister who loves him.
She talks with utterly fake-pleasantness about how Bronn betrayed Jaime, how Jaime betrayed her, how Tyrion murdered their father and son—as which point Jaime corrects her, revealing that Olenna Tyrell confessed to poisoning Joffrey. Cersei drops her mask, infuriated that Olenna was killed quickly and painlessly instead of torturously, despite the fact Cersei had already murdered the rest of her family. But Cersei recovers to tell Jaime the good news—she’s having another baby, and this time she’s going to tell everyone who the real father is. Jaime is genuinely choked up at the idea that he will publically have a child… which is when Cersei threatens him to never betray her again. Count how many times Cersei says “betray” in this scene—and you can see her mask crack a little more each time, revealing someone who will happily watch all of King’s Landing burn rather than let her “enemies” win.
There could have been interesting scenes like these, except the show just couldn’t be bothered to give them some time. Tyrion’s tense, tearful secret meeting with Jaime was more of an uber-brief plot-dump than anything else. Jorah’s triumphant return to his khaleesi was blah, especially because he immediately left with Jon Snow for the North. Even beyond the bare hints of the love-triangle between them—it’s basically only Jon and Jorah giving each other the mildest of side-eyes when the other is looking at Dany—they’re two wildly different characters. It would be cool to watch them interact together, get to know each other more.
Especially when Davos and Gendry, Robert Baratheon’s bastard son, whom Davos found (Was there a “still rowing” joke? There was!) and who immediately decided he wanted to travel with these cool new guys Davos knows north of the Wall to capture a wight to convince Cersei (and Daenerys, let’s be real) that the army of the dead exists. Like, even just a single scene of them on a ship together, just measuring each other up. But nope! They all travel to Eastwatch together off-screen, where they meet up with Tormund Giantsbane… and also find Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr, and Sandor Clegane, waiting for them, too. The time for them all to decide to head beyond the Wall together to find a wight, despite the fact many of them hate each other a great deal: about two minutes.
This show’s utteral refusal—it was so harried last night it almost felt like fear—to never stand still for a moment is producing ridiculous results. Case in point: The show flat-out began with Bronn hauling the fully armored Jaime out of the lake on the far side, and they’re both only mildly exerted by traveling 40 or so feet underwater. The show doesn’t even bother trying to explain away the impossibility of this, apparently fully content to have had a cool cliffhanger in the previous episode over something that makes any sort of sense.
There was the immensely aggravating scene of Sam at the Citadel; first he just happens to be bringing busywork into a room with the maesters are discussing and summarily dismissing a note from Bran and his maester about an army of the dead is just outside the Wall. Sam gives a stirring speech about it, about the importance of maesters using their wisdom to help people, about how the threat is real because he’s seen these things himself—and of course he gets dismissed. It’s such a cliché, but it’s less annoying than Sam’s decision to steal about five to 10 seemingly random books, flee Oldtown, and quit Maester school later that night, along with Gily and Lil’ Sam. Unless those books include Fighting White Walkers for Dummies or something—and we have no reason to suspect what they’re all about—Sam just finished a six-episode internship to cure Jorah and clean shit. What a great use of everybody’s time.
But nothing, and I mean nothing, was worse than the bullshit going on in Winterfell. If I may? (clears throat)
Why is Arya giving Sansa shit about ruling Winterfell? They’ve just met again after years of hardships. Perhaps Arya could stay polite a bit longer instead of basically accusing her sister of undermining Jon? Also how is Sansa undermining Jon by reminding all the grumpy lords of the North that yes, Jon is still their king?
Who cares if Sansa wants to rule Winterfell anyway? She’s spent years dealing with rulers and politics and learning how to manipulate people. This is a job she’s incredibly suited for that Jon is terrible at, which we know because not only did he abandon his people to go south to meet with a foreign invader, and instead of going home he then traveled to Eastmarch to personally find an ice zombie despite the fact there are many, many other people who can do that. Jon left a mess, still hasn’t come home to fix it, and Sansa’s trying to keep it all together as best she can—for Jon.
Why is Arya suddenly so terrible at sneaking? Why wouldn’t she at least use someone else’s face when stalking Littlefinger?
Why does that note that Cersei forced Sansa to write to Winterfell against her will, that Ned had been rightfully killed as a traitor, mean anything? Is Arya going to suddenly think Sansa was really happy back in King’s Landing and super-pro-Lannister? That she married Ramsay Bolton for political gain? That’s so dumb it makes my teeth hurt.
Is Littlefinger playing for much more low-stakes discord? That because Arya discovered he hid the letter, she’ll think he must be up to something, tell Sansa, Sansa will get pissed Arya broke into his chambers further driving a wedge between the two sisters? Uh, everyone knows Littlefinger is up to something all the time, especially Sansa. She should see through this shit a mile away.
The final question here isn’t “Is Sansa going to usurp Jon Snow?” It’s “Shouldn’t Sansa usurp Jon Snow?” Jon is so busy trying to save the world—and hey, good on him for that—that he’s not serving the North, and the North is fracturing because of it. The dumb, fickle Lords are already ready to ditch the newest King in the North for someone who actually stays in the North, and clearly a stable, present leader would make the North stronger and more united. Honestly, if Jon doesn’t get home to fulfill his duties as a king, Sansa may be forced to usurp him if she wants to hold the North together at all.
That’s not my point. My point is the show is moving so relentlessly fast that things feel rushed and unearned, scenes and characters aren’t given time to breathe, and the storytelling is suffering as a result—at least when there’s not a dragon to distract us. The show has completely abandoned its pretense of having a reality of time and space, from Jaime’s immediate saving by a Bronn ex machina to the borderline absurd way the episode managed to end with Jon Snow, Jorah Mormont, Gendry, Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr, and the Hound—few of which have ever met each other—suddenly all going on a mission together to find an ice zombie. Their conflicts were presented as an infodump of all the reasons they don’t like each other, specifically so they can be swept under the rug and they can be shoved out the Wall door before the credits roll. But better that than the poor Stark women, who now have their own conflict thanks to having gotten caught up in Littlefinger’s Scheming 101, as if they had suddenly forgotten Littlefinger taught scheming at Westeros University. These characters know better than this, and I’m afraid the show, in its desire to keep at top speed, is willing to ignore whatever fact/obstacle it thinks might be in it way.
I know this season is almost at an end—only two more episodes!—and season eight will only have six. But while these episodes have all been packed, the craftsmanship seems to be suffering. “Eastwatch” feels like it was an episode made for speed not quality, to get certain characters in certain places and situations for the next round of the Game. I guess my biggest problem is that I’m not convinced in the next episode, they won’t just do it again.
I mean, I had thought the showrunners were racing through these episodes to get to the epic final season, to get everything in place for the Game’s final round. Now I’m thinking they just want to be done playing the game entirely.
- One meeting that the show gave all the time in the world: Jon Snow and Drogon becoming best friends. Daenerys is bewildered at how much Drogon is accepting of Jon—maybe even turned on?
- In the episode’s needlessly longest scene, Davos and Gendry are trying to get their secret boat ready to go when two guards come and very slowly harass them until they spy Tyrion. This is all just a set-up for Gendry to show off his big hammer and his badass skull-smashing skills. I could practically see the RPG text: “GENDRY (Fighter Lv 7) has joined your party!!!!”
- Maybe I was just annoyed at how the episode was progressing, but Gilly’s reading aloud from a “random” section of a maester’s diary about a “Prince Raggar” whose marriage was annulled and a new one held in a secret ceremony in Dorne and Sam of course having zero idea that Gilly had dropped a valuable clue made me incredibly annoyed. It was like Old Town was designed to prevent Sam from learning anything except how to fix Jorah Mormont so he could die in the very near future of something else.
The look on Tormund's face when he was looking at Dany on the dragon. Fam was like Brienne who!?!?
But it could have also just him going
after seeing the dragon tho.
But it could have also just him going
after seeing the dragon tho. 
@ the hound bitching up when he saw the bear attacking Thoros....and then again when the flaming swords were lit. The hound turned his back and looked away after Beric Dondarrionon lit his sword. Yeah fire...I get it. Understood.
But he should have been extra shook @ all of the "life saving" fire coming from the dragons tho.
But he should have been extra shook @ all of the "life saving" fire coming from the dragons tho.
This has nothing to do with what I said.
We don't know the fate of Benjen, if he's dead, a wight(or is it wytes?) or still his hybrid self because we dont' know much about the Children of the Forest's magic and what it is fully capable of. If they created the wytes, then they obviously know how they tick. Maybe he did die, but maybe he remains undead.
I think your other analysis though is on point.
I think your other analysis though is on point.
What is with Jon all of a sudden wanting to bend the knee to Dany? He said himself that the North will NOT accept a foreign ruler but what she saves his life and all of a sudden she is fit to rule the north? I was not impressed with that at all. Things will not go well for him in the North when he finally returns with Dany in tow talking about bending the knee especially from the main families like Leanna Mormont....it also won't help when Bran reveals his parentage because being a Targaryen will make Jon less of a northerner I think in their eyes. Although he is half Stark.
Also if I recall correctly it's not that Dany is not able to have children the witch that caused Drogo to die said this
[""When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."] So I think when she and Jon inevitably hook up she will most likely get pregnant.
Also if I recall correctly it's not that Dany is not able to have children the witch that caused Drogo to die said this
[""When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."] So I think when she and Jon inevitably hook up she will most likely get pregnant.
No spoilers here.
If there was any doubt that Gendry was the son of this dude.....
:44 second mark
Dialogue like this I miss. I'm going to have to watch over season 1!
......
And the irony of him talking about another "highborn" Tarly boy....and men shitting themselves when they die.
fucking yes...bcuz w/o him the north would be shit...and she came thru in the clutch for him
Bruh it's not defense. It's truth. That poster was posted 10 damn times in this thread BEFORE the season started and nobody said shit. All people said was "HBO wouldn't give away something like that in a preview poster. The funny thing is 10 people kept saying how he was gonna get one before I answered about them being a different species.CLEARLY ....the show writers didn't follow George history because instead the Night King had to turn a dragon instead. If my "info" was a spoiler the Night King would have came flying into the battle WITH a dragon from the Shivering Sea. The damn spoiler was the dude who actually posted the damn script.
It took DAYS. Not hours.Those dudes were WIDE AWAKE.
For Days.
Plus it took awhile for the lake to freeze over again, before the Army of the Dead could cross it. Ever see a lake freeze solid?? Solid enough to support the weight of an Army, all at the same time? That doesn't happen in just a matter of hours.
People keep thinking that because the Director doesnt literally show 'time changing' from day to night to day again... that everything is happening in just a matter of minutes, or a matter of hours.... because it all takes place in one single episode.
people are feeling like that because for 5.5 seasons GOT made a living out of dragging the timeline along. It would take people 3-4 episodes to get from Winterfell to the Twins now it's taking them 10 minutes. So for the past 1.5 seasons this pace is throwing people off. I love it though.
He probably hit in real life too.....
Or he had better!
I'll admit the chemistry between them on screen seems genuine
Lucky you.
He probably hit in real life too.....
Or he had better!
Sadly in real life isn't he with the boy-chick that played ygrette?
He probably hit in real life too.....
Or he had better!
What if I told you
that Seth Macfarlene use to hit.
anybody else realize that this episode killed one of the biggest theories in the series? The 3 headed dragon? .....Also once again anybody want to guess how the hell Jon survived? It makes no sense.
Also does anybody else think that we are gonna have to wait till next season for Jon to find out who he is?
Also does anybody else think that we are gonna have to wait till next season for Jon to find out who he is?
Blocked a couple people first.
Is it possible to grant a couple members mod powers only for this thread to cut the dumb shit out?
I agree that is is a stark contrast to earlier Seasons where the traveling was a major part of the plot. I don't understand why they couldn't extend the episodes from 7 to maybe 8 or 9.
Unlike other series like The Walking Dead where they have obvious filler episodes (like a whole lot), Game of Thrones definitely does not have Filler episodes so maybe including the traveling in the series would not have Justified adding an episode or two to season seven. I can understand why and I'm okay with it.
Yeah I know that they dated....or "went out" once or twice, but I doubt that he hit it. Dude is as gay as Renly and Loras. He prolly tried to romance her and sing sinatra to her and lost out eventually.
She should understand.
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