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Iggy trying to get some more startup investment money
Right and I ain't mad at him
Warriors have already said they wanted him and Livingston. It's not like hey we want Gay it's like well shit if Iggy gets $25m a year then we gotta tip our caps and look for someone else.. he's not even meeting with the warriors cause he's basically about to go around and get a price check to see where he is bring it back to the warriors and see what's up if they can come close or meet in a good spot for him
David West Agrees To Re-Sign With Warriors For His Final NBA Season
JUL 1, 2017 12:34 PM
David West has agreed upon a one-year deal to re-sign with the Golden State Warriors.
West plans on retiring after the 17-18 season.
JUL 1, 2017 12:34 PM
David West has agreed upon a one-year deal to re-sign with the Golden State Warriors.
West plans on retiring after the 17-18 season.
Me too but we ain't the coaches
Barnes was gonna get that paper regardless, that's the crazy thing
Lmao that's clear.
Gonna over pay Noel and that's about it
I heard they called Ibaka and that actually wouldn't be a bad look but he not coming here either
Also has been interest in Ben Mclemore as a reclamation project I think he still has potential he just been on the Kings lol
After sending Paul George to the Thunder, where do the Pacers go from here?
First it was the Cleveland Cavaliers . Then it was the Los Angeles Lakers and Boston Celtics . There was reportedly a three-team deal with the Cavs and Denver Nuggets in the works on draft night. The Celtics came calling again and again, and so too did the Houston Rockets after the Chris Paul trade. But after weeks of rumors, reports, and negotiations, the Oklahoma City Thunder swept in late Friday night to win the Paul George sweepstakes, sending the Indiana Pacers Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis in return for the All-Star forward.
The Thunder do this move knowing full well that George is already halfway out the door to Los Angeles, but there's always the chance they could convince him to stay depending on what they're able to do this season. And even if he leaves, Oladipo and Sabonis weren't much to give up anyway. But enough about the Thunder; how George will fit with Russell Westbrook will be analyzed a thousand times over.
What about the Indiana Pacers? Where do they go from here?
Once George informed the team that he wasn't going to be a part of their long-term plans, the Pacers had no choice but to move their superstar rather than lose him for nothing next summer. After seeing the return they got in this deal, however, you can almost make the case that they should have just kept him, hoped he made an All-NBA team next season and prayed the extra money they could offer him would be enough to entice him to stay.
The reported negotiations mentioned Kevin Love . There were talks of the Lakers offering two first-round picks along with Jordan Clarkson or Julius Randle . The Celtics reportedly offered three first-round picks plus Jae Crowder and another player. Now were those reports accurate? Well, it's impossible to know the exact offers and what was specifically discussed, but it certainly seems like the Pacers could have gotten more for George, even on a one-year rental, than Oladipo and Sabonis. This feels like a move Indiana made because it was sick of negotiating and just wanted to get something done.
It's like when you're looking for a parking spot and see one fairly close, but believe you can find a better one, so you drive around for 10 minutes looking for a marginally better spot only to come up empty. Yet when you go back to the original spot it's been taken, and at that point you're just so sick of looking for somewhere to park, that you park in the first open spot you can find, even if it's much further away than the one you could have just originally taken.
Look, the Pacers were always going to be in a bad spot once George left town, as it's impossible to simply replace a player of his caliber, and his publicly stated desire to play in L.A. nuked their leverage in any trade negotiations. But winding up with Oladipo and Sabonis and no extra picks of any kind to speak of is disappointing.
As the Pacers enter all-out rebuild mode now that George is officially gone, and Jeff Teague and C.J. Miles are likely to follow him out the door once free agency begins, they'll turn the keys over to Myles Turner , which is a good place to start. Every team in the league would love to have a player like Turner to build around. He's a 21-year-old big man who will likely average a double-double next season, and has shown a budding ability to knock down 3-pointers, and can protect the rim on the defensive end.
After Turner, however, it's Oladipo and question marks.
And Oladipo is a fine player. He's can score, he can facilitate a bit and he'll put up numbers next season with the ball in his hands all of the time, but I'm not sure I'd be thrilled to pay a high-usage guard who can't really shoot worth $21 million for each of the next four seasons. The Pacers are making a big bet that he'll continue to develop and turn into a player they can pair alongside Turner for the future.
As for Sabonis, he had his moments for the Thunder in his rookie season, but he's also a big man who shot 39.9 percent, which is concerning to say the least. He's still just 21 years old, though, and to write him off completely would be unwise, but there is no guarantee he's going to be a part of the Pacers' long-term plans.
T.J. Leaf, their first-round draft pick could be a solid player, but doesn't appear to be a franchise-altering addition. Lance Stephenson is back and there's really no telling how that will go. Glenn Robinson III is worth keeping an eye on. And veterans Monta Ellis and Al Jefferson are still around -- at least for now.
Aside from Myles Turner being the face of the franchise, pretty much everything is up in the air for the Pacers as they try to rebuild after losing their franchise forward. As Kevin Pritchard and Co. continue to make moves to reshape this roster, things are going to get weird in Indiana over the next couple of years, and not in a good way.
First it was the Cleveland Cavaliers . Then it was the Los Angeles Lakers and Boston Celtics . There was reportedly a three-team deal with the Cavs and Denver Nuggets in the works on draft night. The Celtics came calling again and again, and so too did the Houston Rockets after the Chris Paul trade. But after weeks of rumors, reports, and negotiations, the Oklahoma City Thunder swept in late Friday night to win the Paul George sweepstakes, sending the Indiana Pacers Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis in return for the All-Star forward.
The Thunder do this move knowing full well that George is already halfway out the door to Los Angeles, but there's always the chance they could convince him to stay depending on what they're able to do this season. And even if he leaves, Oladipo and Sabonis weren't much to give up anyway. But enough about the Thunder; how George will fit with Russell Westbrook will be analyzed a thousand times over.
What about the Indiana Pacers? Where do they go from here?
Once George informed the team that he wasn't going to be a part of their long-term plans, the Pacers had no choice but to move their superstar rather than lose him for nothing next summer. After seeing the return they got in this deal, however, you can almost make the case that they should have just kept him, hoped he made an All-NBA team next season and prayed the extra money they could offer him would be enough to entice him to stay.
The reported negotiations mentioned Kevin Love . There were talks of the Lakers offering two first-round picks along with Jordan Clarkson or Julius Randle . The Celtics reportedly offered three first-round picks plus Jae Crowder and another player. Now were those reports accurate? Well, it's impossible to know the exact offers and what was specifically discussed, but it certainly seems like the Pacers could have gotten more for George, even on a one-year rental, than Oladipo and Sabonis. This feels like a move Indiana made because it was sick of negotiating and just wanted to get something done.
It's like when you're looking for a parking spot and see one fairly close, but believe you can find a better one, so you drive around for 10 minutes looking for a marginally better spot only to come up empty. Yet when you go back to the original spot it's been taken, and at that point you're just so sick of looking for somewhere to park, that you park in the first open spot you can find, even if it's much further away than the one you could have just originally taken.
Look, the Pacers were always going to be in a bad spot once George left town, as it's impossible to simply replace a player of his caliber, and his publicly stated desire to play in L.A. nuked their leverage in any trade negotiations. But winding up with Oladipo and Sabonis and no extra picks of any kind to speak of is disappointing.
As the Pacers enter all-out rebuild mode now that George is officially gone, and Jeff Teague and C.J. Miles are likely to follow him out the door once free agency begins, they'll turn the keys over to Myles Turner , which is a good place to start. Every team in the league would love to have a player like Turner to build around. He's a 21-year-old big man who will likely average a double-double next season, and has shown a budding ability to knock down 3-pointers, and can protect the rim on the defensive end.
After Turner, however, it's Oladipo and question marks.
And Oladipo is a fine player. He's can score, he can facilitate a bit and he'll put up numbers next season with the ball in his hands all of the time, but I'm not sure I'd be thrilled to pay a high-usage guard who can't really shoot worth $21 million for each of the next four seasons. The Pacers are making a big bet that he'll continue to develop and turn into a player they can pair alongside Turner for the future.
As for Sabonis, he had his moments for the Thunder in his rookie season, but he's also a big man who shot 39.9 percent, which is concerning to say the least. He's still just 21 years old, though, and to write him off completely would be unwise, but there is no guarantee he's going to be a part of the Pacers' long-term plans.
T.J. Leaf, their first-round draft pick could be a solid player, but doesn't appear to be a franchise-altering addition. Lance Stephenson is back and there's really no telling how that will go. Glenn Robinson III is worth keeping an eye on. And veterans Monta Ellis and Al Jefferson are still around -- at least for now.
Aside from Myles Turner being the face of the franchise, pretty much everything is up in the air for the Pacers as they try to rebuild after losing their franchise forward. As Kevin Pritchard and Co. continue to make moves to reshape this roster, things are going to get weird in Indiana over the next couple of years, and not in a good way.
its so strange that Dallas has a hard time with free agents; with the non state tax, you would think it would be different; the city isnt bad either; But Kings are actually trending upwards; I kinda like their moves and they will have a high pick next year as well; Kings should be decent in a couple of years...
I like their draft. But they'll mess around and flame out. Hope they can gain some respectability and develop these young guys. PHX is creeping too.
I think they are trending upwards for sure; but you are right, they have to develop these young players; and get a stud next year in the draft, they will be very solid in like 3 years;
Some nice pieces Gilbert have insight...
Cavs connect with Calderon, Randolph
Jose Calderon reportedly has an interest in joining the Cavaliers.
JULY 1, 2017
Sam Amico
The Cleveland Cavaliers have connected with free agent power forward Zach Randolph of the Memphis Grizzlies by phone Saturday, and the sides share a mutual interest, league sources told Amico Hoops.
Also, according to a report from The Athletic, the Cavs share a mutual interest with free-agent point guard Jose Calderon, most recently of the Atlanta Hawks.
Both Randolph and Calderon are said to be “extremely open” to signing small deals with the Cavs, according to one source.
Both are also 35 years old, and while the Cavs are looking to get younger, they also want veterans who can still make valuable contributions in reserve.
Along with exploring potential deals with Randolph and Calderon, the Cavs have been in negotiations with draft-and-stash swingman Cedi Osman of Turkey. Osman reportedly received a buyout from his overseas club and is ready to join the NBA.
The Cavs have also discussed several trade scenarios involving Osman, but most took place before former general manager David Griffin parted ways with the organization.
Current assistant GM and owner Dan Gilbert are handling the Cavs’ summer transactions.
Forward P.J. Tucker (Toronto), forward James Michael McAdoo (Golden State), forward Jared Sullinger, and guard Anthony Morrow (Chicago) are others who may be on the Cavs’ immediate radar.
The Cavs are continuing to monitor the Carmelo Anthony situation in New York. Word is, Anthony is angling for a buyout in hopes of coming to Cleveland.
Cavs connect with Calderon, Randolph
Jose Calderon reportedly has an interest in joining the Cavaliers.
JULY 1, 2017
Sam Amico
The Cleveland Cavaliers have connected with free agent power forward Zach Randolph of the Memphis Grizzlies by phone Saturday, and the sides share a mutual interest, league sources told Amico Hoops.
Also, according to a report from The Athletic, the Cavs share a mutual interest with free-agent point guard Jose Calderon, most recently of the Atlanta Hawks.
Both Randolph and Calderon are said to be “extremely open” to signing small deals with the Cavs, according to one source.
Both are also 35 years old, and while the Cavs are looking to get younger, they also want veterans who can still make valuable contributions in reserve.
Along with exploring potential deals with Randolph and Calderon, the Cavs have been in negotiations with draft-and-stash swingman Cedi Osman of Turkey. Osman reportedly received a buyout from his overseas club and is ready to join the NBA.
The Cavs have also discussed several trade scenarios involving Osman, but most took place before former general manager David Griffin parted ways with the organization.
Current assistant GM and owner Dan Gilbert are handling the Cavs’ summer transactions.
Forward P.J. Tucker (Toronto), forward James Michael McAdoo (Golden State), forward Jared Sullinger, and guard Anthony Morrow (Chicago) are others who may be on the Cavs’ immediate radar.
The Cavs are continuing to monitor the Carmelo Anthony situation in New York. Word is, Anthony is angling for a buyout in hopes of coming to Cleveland.
Pacers got robbed!!! this trade was worst than Kings trade and the Bulls trade
Well they didn't want him to stay in the east so that is what it is
I think the pacers would've got two picks on top of getting harris
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That reported trade isn't good either.. but they should have gotten way more for PG; lakers won with this trade also
Pritchard is so dumb.
Who cares if Paul George stays in the East or not.
What is he gonna do that scares you so much???
Id rather focus on moving on in the best way forward possible. I like Harris alot more then Oladipo and picks on top of that too?
Yea because the cavs were gonna get a 1st for Love
Pacers - Gary Harris & two picks
Cavs - Paul George
Nuggets - Kevin Love
The Cavs, Nuggets and Pacers restarted trade talks on Friday
According to ESPN’s Zach Lowe, the Cavaliers, Pacers and Nuggets restarted talks to set up a three-team deal Friday that would have seen Paul George land in Cleveland. What Indiana could have received in the deal was guard Gary Harris, forward Trey Lyles and a protected first round pick. Kevin Love would have been headed to Denver as well.
From Lowe’s story, which you can read in full here:
The Pacers, Cavs, and Nuggets on Friday resuscitated a three-way deal that would have sent George to Cleveland and Kevin Love to Denver, according to several league sources. The Pacers could have had a package centered around Gary Harris, Trey Lyles, and a protected first-round pick, sources say. The Cavs, Nuggets, and Celtics were stunned when news of the trade broke on Twitter.
There are reports indicating that Indiana’s Kevin Pritchard didn’t want to deal George to a team in the East, so that may factor in here. But this framework would have netted Indiana a better group of players. And for the Cavs, this is a tough way to not land George. Denver, over the past week or so, emerged as the third team needed in a deal with Indiana because the Pacers were not interested in Love. And with the Nuggets putting forth actually assets, this seems like the type of deal that could have brought George to Cleveland.
Now, the Cavs are out on George after missing on Jimmy Butler. And while it’s not really their fault — although having a GM would have helped, probably — it’s interesting that the Cavs were “stunned”.
Additionally, it’s now out there that Love was on the verge of being traded to now not being moved at all. Uncertainty about this future in Cleveland isn’t anything new, but this is the closest he’s ever come to being dealt since the Cavs acquired him before the 2014-15 season. And, for the first time, it sounds like the Cavs were actually willing to move on from him.
https://www.fearthesword.com/2017/7/1/15908566/cavs-nuggets-pacers-paul-george-kevin-love
They saying warriors looking at Rudy Gay to replace iggy if he leaves
Fam it's over for the Cavs lol
Jokers just KNEW everybody wanted to come to grimey ass cleveland and play with Lebron didnt they!?
Miami welcomes Gordon Hayward with Heat players and a banner outside the arena
The Miami Heat welcomed Gordon Hayward to AmericanAirlines Arena Saturday morning with a large contingent of familiar faces from the franchise and a banner outside the arena with the Jazz All-Star swingman already sporting a Heat jersey.
A Heat spokesman confirmed a photo taken by a Heat fan Saturday morning of a banner outside of the arena with Hayward’s face on it was legit, a creation by the organization to make Hayward feel more at home during his free agent visit. The Heat spokesman didn’t confirm Hayward was meeting with team officials since there is a league moratorium until July 6, but did confirm the validity of the banner.
In addition to front office executives which include team president Pat Riley and coach Erik Spoelstra, center Hassan Whiteside, forward Justise Winslow and captain Udonis Haslem were expected to be among a group of Heat players to greet Hayward, 27, at the arena.
Miami kept assistants Chris Quinn and Juwan Howard, who are coaching the Heat’s summer league team, in Miami Saturday “on official team business.” Quinn and Howard are expected to rejoin the Heat, which opened summer league action Saturday morning against the Hornets, in Orlando for Sunday’s game.
Hayward, who averaged 21.9 points, 5.4 rebounds, 3.5 assists and shot nearly 40 percent from three-point range in earning his first All-Star selection last season with the Jazz, will meet with Boston Celtics on Sunday and the Jazz in Utah on Monday before deciding on his future.
Although Utah can offer Hayward a five-year max contract ($172.4 million) and Boston and Miami can only offer him four-year max contracts ($127.8 million), there isn’t an overwhelming financial advantage for Hayward to sign with the Jazz.
As a seven-year veteran, Hayward would be better off signing a contract that would allow him to opt out after the 2019-20 season (three seasons) so he can take advantage of his 10 years of NBA service and seek more money with a new contract.
With this year’s salary cap set at $99 million, players with 10-plus years of service are eligibile to sign five-year max contracts at $201.2 million. Hayward could essentially structure his contract to take advtange of a similar deal after three seasons whether he’s in Boston, Utah or Miami.
Also a factor in the Heat’s favor: Hayward would be subject to state income tax in Utah and Massachusetts and not Florida.
Boston, the Eastern Conference runner-up last season, has close to $29 million in available cap space, but other assets (plenty of first round picks) it can trade to potentially bolster the roster around Hayward. The problem is All-Star Paul George, who was traded Friday night to Oklahoma City, was their primary target to pair with Hayward and an expected selling point in their Sunday meeting.
The Jazz have roughly $15 million in potential cap space, but can go over the cap to re-sign Hayward since they own his early bird rights. The Jazz made a trade Friday to acquire point guard Ricky Rubio from Minnesota, signaling the departure of point guard George Hill. It’s unclear how that move could help or hurt Utah in its attempt to keep Hayward from straying. He was reportedly close to Hill.
Miami would have roughly $5 million left in salary cap space if it signs Hayward to a max deal, but Riley could stretch the contract of often injured forward Josh McRoberts to create an additional $4 million in cap space and make other moves to free up money to try and resign either James Johnson or Dion Waiters, two integral parts of the team’s 30-11 second-half turnaround last season.
Johnson, 30, has the same agent as Hayward and told the Miami Herald on Friday he would wait for the Heat to make its sales pitch to Hayward before deciding his own future.
The Miami Heat welcomed Gordon Hayward to AmericanAirlines Arena Saturday morning with a large contingent of familiar faces from the franchise and a banner outside the arena with the Jazz All-Star swingman already sporting a Heat jersey.
A Heat spokesman confirmed a photo taken by a Heat fan Saturday morning of a banner outside of the arena with Hayward’s face on it was legit, a creation by the organization to make Hayward feel more at home during his free agent visit. The Heat spokesman didn’t confirm Hayward was meeting with team officials since there is a league moratorium until July 6, but did confirm the validity of the banner.
In addition to front office executives which include team president Pat Riley and coach Erik Spoelstra, center Hassan Whiteside, forward Justise Winslow and captain Udonis Haslem were expected to be among a group of Heat players to greet Hayward, 27, at the arena.
Miami kept assistants Chris Quinn and Juwan Howard, who are coaching the Heat’s summer league team, in Miami Saturday “on official team business.” Quinn and Howard are expected to rejoin the Heat, which opened summer league action Saturday morning against the Hornets, in Orlando for Sunday’s game.
Hayward, who averaged 21.9 points, 5.4 rebounds, 3.5 assists and shot nearly 40 percent from three-point range in earning his first All-Star selection last season with the Jazz, will meet with Boston Celtics on Sunday and the Jazz in Utah on Monday before deciding on his future.
Although Utah can offer Hayward a five-year max contract ($172.4 million) and Boston and Miami can only offer him four-year max contracts ($127.8 million), there isn’t an overwhelming financial advantage for Hayward to sign with the Jazz.
As a seven-year veteran, Hayward would be better off signing a contract that would allow him to opt out after the 2019-20 season (three seasons) so he can take advantage of his 10 years of NBA service and seek more money with a new contract.
With this year’s salary cap set at $99 million, players with 10-plus years of service are eligibile to sign five-year max contracts at $201.2 million. Hayward could essentially structure his contract to take advtange of a similar deal after three seasons whether he’s in Boston, Utah or Miami.
Also a factor in the Heat’s favor: Hayward would be subject to state income tax in Utah and Massachusetts and not Florida.
Boston, the Eastern Conference runner-up last season, has close to $29 million in available cap space, but other assets (plenty of first round picks) it can trade to potentially bolster the roster around Hayward. The problem is All-Star Paul George, who was traded Friday night to Oklahoma City, was their primary target to pair with Hayward and an expected selling point in their Sunday meeting.
The Jazz have roughly $15 million in potential cap space, but can go over the cap to re-sign Hayward since they own his early bird rights. The Jazz made a trade Friday to acquire point guard Ricky Rubio from Minnesota, signaling the departure of point guard George Hill. It’s unclear how that move could help or hurt Utah in its attempt to keep Hayward from straying. He was reportedly close to Hill.
Miami would have roughly $5 million left in salary cap space if it signs Hayward to a max deal, but Riley could stretch the contract of often injured forward Josh McRoberts to create an additional $4 million in cap space and make other moves to free up money to try and resign either James Johnson or Dion Waiters, two integral parts of the team’s 30-11 second-half turnaround last season.
Johnson, 30, has the same agent as Hayward and told the Miami Herald on Friday he would wait for the Heat to make its sales pitch to Hayward before deciding his own future.
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