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Donald Trump's Implosion
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/donald-trumps-implosion/503504/
At the second presidential debate, the Republican paced and pouted and sighed, but failed to patch together his collapsing campaign.
Donald Trump knows he won't be president. He's now in full carnival-barking, network-launching, party-nuking mode—a scowling, pouting menace who threatened during a nationally televised debate to throw Hillary Clinton in jail and called her husband the most sexually abusive man in political history.
That’s ripe.
The Republican presidential nominee entered the second presidential debate with his campaign imploding over an audiotape obtained by the Washington Post that captures Trump bragging about committing sexual assault.
"I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there, and she was married,” he told Access Hollywood host Billy Bush, apparently not knowing his microphone was live. Trump continued: "I'm automatically attracted to beautiful [women]—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."
Debate co-host Anderson Cooper told Trump, “That is sexual assault. You bragged that you sexually assaulted women. Do you understand that?”
“This is locker room talk,” Trump told Cooper, making clear that he doesn’t understand. After apologizing to his family and the public, Trump tried to change the subject.
Clinton wouldn’t let him off the hook, saying she has long opposed GOP presidential nominees on basis of policy and ideology. “But I never questioned their fitness to serve. Donald Trump is different.” She said the recording reflects Trump’s intolerance toward women, blacks, Hispanics, and Muslims.
“So, yes, this is who Donald Trump is.”
Trump stewed, his anger simmering beneath a thin veil of calm. Desperately, he said Bill Clinton’s behavior toward women was “far worse”—as if that’s an excuse for his own behavior.
“Mine were words and his were action,” said Trump, who invited to the debate three women who have accused Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct or rape. “What he’s done to women, there’s never been somebody in the history of politics who’s been more abusive to women.”
Then he seized on Hillary Clinton’s role in demonizing her husband’s accusers. “Hillary Clinton attacked those same women,” he said, “and attacked them viciously.”
With Hillary Clinton staring daggers into the side of his head, Trump said of her husband, “He was impeached. He lost his license to practice law …”
This is the last thing GOP leaders, including his own running mate, Mike Pence, wanted out of Trump—a debate over the historical relevance of his sexism. At least 57 GOP members of congress and governors are not supporting Trump, with 39 announcing their non-support since the tape’s released.
After this performance, the stampede will grow.
Trump is a serial hypocrite who outdid himself with the attacks on Bill Clinton.
He once criticized Republicans for impeaching Clinton. "Look at the trouble Bill Clinton got into with something that was totally un-important. And they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense.
He also attacked Monica Lewinsky’s looks. “People would have been more forgiving if (Bill Clinton) had an affair with a really beautiful woman of sophistication.”
He called Paula Jones a loser and, in 1999, called Hillary Clinton “a wonderful woman.” He also said, “She's been through more than any woman should have to bear.”
Had the Trump tape not been released, Clinton would be dealing with her own hypocrisy issues. In lucrative paid speeches, the former secretary of state discussed Wall Street and free trade in far-friendlier terms than she did during the Democratic nominating fight, according to documents released by WikiLeaks. Clinton said she dreamed of “open trade and open boarders” throughout the Western Hemisphere,” which would come as a surprise to liberal voters who pushed her to opposed trade agreements.
But she had the better hand Sunday night, reminding voters that Trump has not apologized for attacking the parents of a slain U.S. soldier, mocking a disabled reporter, smearing a Hispanic judge, and questioning President Obama’s citizenship. “He owed the president an apology,” she said.
“You owe the president an apology,” Trump said, accusing a Clinton adviser of starting the false “birther” rumor in 2008.
Cooper and Trump pressed Clinton on her email scandal, failing to get her to budge off her deceptive talking points.
“If I win,” Trump said, “I’m going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation.”
Clinton laughed and said it’s a good thing “somebody with Donald Trump’s temperament” doesn’t have such power.
“Because you’d be in jail,” Trump blurted, precisely making her point. He also called her the devil.
Clinton laughed at him again. “OK, Donald, I know you’re big on diversions today—anything to avoid talking about your campaign and how it’s exploding and how Republicans are walking away from you.”
Nothing hurts a bully likes somebody laughing at him, unless it’s people walking away from him. Trump paced and pouted and sighed. As Clinton passed between her rival and his lectern, I half expected Trump to trip her. Instead, he falsely accused the moderators of failing to ask Clinton about her email.
“One on three,” he whined. Poor Donald; he thought the two moderators and Clinton were ganging up on him.
When you’re a dying star, you can’t do anything.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/donald-trumps-implosion/503504/
At the second presidential debate, the Republican paced and pouted and sighed, but failed to patch together his collapsing campaign.
Donald Trump knows he won't be president. He's now in full carnival-barking, network-launching, party-nuking mode—a scowling, pouting menace who threatened during a nationally televised debate to throw Hillary Clinton in jail and called her husband the most sexually abusive man in political history.
That’s ripe.
The Republican presidential nominee entered the second presidential debate with his campaign imploding over an audiotape obtained by the Washington Post that captures Trump bragging about committing sexual assault.
"I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there, and she was married,” he told Access Hollywood host Billy Bush, apparently not knowing his microphone was live. Trump continued: "I'm automatically attracted to beautiful [women]—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."
Debate co-host Anderson Cooper told Trump, “That is sexual assault. You bragged that you sexually assaulted women. Do you understand that?”
“This is locker room talk,” Trump told Cooper, making clear that he doesn’t understand. After apologizing to his family and the public, Trump tried to change the subject.
Clinton wouldn’t let him off the hook, saying she has long opposed GOP presidential nominees on basis of policy and ideology. “But I never questioned their fitness to serve. Donald Trump is different.” She said the recording reflects Trump’s intolerance toward women, blacks, Hispanics, and Muslims.
“So, yes, this is who Donald Trump is.”
Trump stewed, his anger simmering beneath a thin veil of calm. Desperately, he said Bill Clinton’s behavior toward women was “far worse”—as if that’s an excuse for his own behavior.
“Mine were words and his were action,” said Trump, who invited to the debate three women who have accused Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct or rape. “What he’s done to women, there’s never been somebody in the history of politics who’s been more abusive to women.”
Then he seized on Hillary Clinton’s role in demonizing her husband’s accusers. “Hillary Clinton attacked those same women,” he said, “and attacked them viciously.”
With Hillary Clinton staring daggers into the side of his head, Trump said of her husband, “He was impeached. He lost his license to practice law …”
This is the last thing GOP leaders, including his own running mate, Mike Pence, wanted out of Trump—a debate over the historical relevance of his sexism. At least 57 GOP members of congress and governors are not supporting Trump, with 39 announcing their non-support since the tape’s released.
After this performance, the stampede will grow.
Trump is a serial hypocrite who outdid himself with the attacks on Bill Clinton.
He once criticized Republicans for impeaching Clinton. "Look at the trouble Bill Clinton got into with something that was totally un-important. And they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense.
He also attacked Monica Lewinsky’s looks. “People would have been more forgiving if (Bill Clinton) had an affair with a really beautiful woman of sophistication.”
He called Paula Jones a loser and, in 1999, called Hillary Clinton “a wonderful woman.” He also said, “She's been through more than any woman should have to bear.”
Had the Trump tape not been released, Clinton would be dealing with her own hypocrisy issues. In lucrative paid speeches, the former secretary of state discussed Wall Street and free trade in far-friendlier terms than she did during the Democratic nominating fight, according to documents released by WikiLeaks. Clinton said she dreamed of “open trade and open boarders” throughout the Western Hemisphere,” which would come as a surprise to liberal voters who pushed her to opposed trade agreements.
But she had the better hand Sunday night, reminding voters that Trump has not apologized for attacking the parents of a slain U.S. soldier, mocking a disabled reporter, smearing a Hispanic judge, and questioning President Obama’s citizenship. “He owed the president an apology,” she said.
“You owe the president an apology,” Trump said, accusing a Clinton adviser of starting the false “birther” rumor in 2008.
Cooper and Trump pressed Clinton on her email scandal, failing to get her to budge off her deceptive talking points.
“If I win,” Trump said, “I’m going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation.”
Clinton laughed and said it’s a good thing “somebody with Donald Trump’s temperament” doesn’t have such power.
“Because you’d be in jail,” Trump blurted, precisely making her point. He also called her the devil.
Clinton laughed at him again. “OK, Donald, I know you’re big on diversions today—anything to avoid talking about your campaign and how it’s exploding and how Republicans are walking away from you.”
Nothing hurts a bully likes somebody laughing at him, unless it’s people walking away from him. Trump paced and pouted and sighed. As Clinton passed between her rival and his lectern, I half expected Trump to trip her. Instead, he falsely accused the moderators of failing to ask Clinton about her email.
“One on three,” he whined. Poor Donald; he thought the two moderators and Clinton were ganging up on him.
When you’re a dying star, you can’t do anything.
Look like she will be on Morning Joe tomorrow after all ..
lol for min trump team thought they had stop the bleeding until the polls numbers came out lol
Ppl were expecting Hillary to deliver a knockout blow and anything less than that ppl will say Trump won or he did OK. The media is really setting up this guy to fail really bad because I don't see his so called victories helping him with the demographics that he needs to win.
Dude this shit was fucking 20 something years ago..... and you are bitching at her because she is ride or die and they worked through their issues.
I'm just not getting your logic here.
Dude, dont Feed the trolls.
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Just for arguments sake, what's not good about Hillary?
You're right, he didn't. He immediatelypointed the finger at her supporters saying "well they do it too"
Both are vile, to balance the reporting, here's the list of Bill Clinton's ignored accusers:
Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
More info on Bill Clinton's Accusers:
Paula Jones: A former Arkansas state employee, Jones sued Bill Clinton in 1994 for sexual harassment. Jones claims that in 1991 then Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton propositioned and exposed himself to her in a Little Rock hotel. Clinton eventually settled with Jones out of court for $850,000, but never admitted to any wrongdoing.
Juanita Broaddrick: Broaddrick, a former nursing home administrator, alleges that Bill Clinton, who was running for Arkansas governor at the time, raped her in an Arkansas hotel room in the spring of 1978.
Kathleen Willey: Willey was a White House volunteer aide who, in March of 1998, alleged on the TV news program 60 Minutes that Bill Clinton had sexually assaulted her during his first term as President.
Eileen Wellstone: Wellstone, an English woman, alleges that Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near Oxford University where Clinton was a student in 1969.
Carolyn Moffet: Moffet was a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met Governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and was invited to his hotel room. Moffet alleges that she fled the hotel room after Clinton demanded she perform sex acts on him.
Elizabeth Ward Gracen: A Miss Arkansas who would go on to win the Miss America contest in 1982, Gracen alleges that she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won the Miss Arkansas competition.
...and Hillary's supported and defended all of his abhorrent behaviour toward women.
Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
More info on Bill Clinton's Accusers:
Paula Jones: A former Arkansas state employee, Jones sued Bill Clinton in 1994 for sexual harassment. Jones claims that in 1991 then Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton propositioned and exposed himself to her in a Little Rock hotel. Clinton eventually settled with Jones out of court for $850,000, but never admitted to any wrongdoing.
Juanita Broaddrick: Broaddrick, a former nursing home administrator, alleges that Bill Clinton, who was running for Arkansas governor at the time, raped her in an Arkansas hotel room in the spring of 1978.
Kathleen Willey: Willey was a White House volunteer aide who, in March of 1998, alleged on the TV news program 60 Minutes that Bill Clinton had sexually assaulted her during his first term as President.
Eileen Wellstone: Wellstone, an English woman, alleges that Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near Oxford University where Clinton was a student in 1969.
Carolyn Moffet: Moffet was a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met Governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and was invited to his hotel room. Moffet alleges that she fled the hotel room after Clinton demanded she perform sex acts on him.
Elizabeth Ward Gracen: A Miss Arkansas who would go on to win the Miss America contest in 1982, Gracen alleges that she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won the Miss Arkansas competition.
...and Hillary's supported and defended all of his abhorrent behaviour toward women.
She stole the primary from Bernie
Stole money from Haiti thru her Clinton Foundation
Called Young Black men super predators
Responsible for the 3 strike law that imprisoned hundreds of thousands of black men
Lied about the email scandal
Changes her position of gay marriage just for votes
DO NOT TRUST HER!
Allow me to answer that, please.
Above all else, Hillary is there to maintain the status quo. In other words, shit may not get worse for blacks under Hillary, but it doesn't get better. It will be yet another president that we supported, that will take our vote for granted.
Unless you're perfectly fine with the way blacks are treated in this country and taken for granted by Dems, then that is more than enough to be bothered by.
Beyond that, she's a seasoned politician who I doubt will SUCK at that overall, but is being a seasoned politician ultimately a GOOD thing? Once again, that only means she is there to maintain the status quo.
Personally, I've had MORE THAN MY FILL of mistreatment and being taken for granted by officials WE support. Voting for people that you KNOW don't fuck with you on a very superficial basis is getting really, really old and tired.
We have alternatives, but it would require black people to think outside of the box AND have the courage to take action, and I'll just say that my confidence in that happening anytime soon is at an all-time low.
We're still giving away our votes for FREE.
Black people lack intelligence, but as a collective, we do some extremely stupid things that it SHOULD be a given to NOT do. Giving away your vote for FREE is very high on the damn list.
Wonder why she cancelled her appearances on Meet The Press and Morning Joe..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-campaign-manager_us_57fb073fe4b0e655eab58677
yeah some more shoes are about to drop...and she knows it
Ok cool and Trump can be trusted?
Which way u want to get fucked? Either way with either candidate you getting fucked so take ur pick
I don't trust her, but he is 10 times worse!
Btw I appreciate your answer
But am I suppose to give my vote to the pussy grabbing man??
Stop with the lies idiot. Let's take this point by point.
Show your proof she stole the primary.
Bullshit. You ignore the democratic platform.
You are Trump supporter so tell me what he offers Black people.
Link your source
Balance. You are a fucking joke. You are always absent from Trumps threads. And in here trying to blame Hillary for Bill Clinton which most of what you posted is lies.
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And what did Hillary say to make the 11 year old walk out?
No, you are supposed to vote for Hillary but put pressure on her every step of the way...understand who she is and don't make her presidency an easy one...whether it be calling your congressman, participating in protests, letting the Democratic party not to take your vote for granted...right now we need to be letting Hillary know that we heard those Wall St tapes and she needs to clarify her true position
While I was writing that I couldn't help thinking this whole system is bullshit...almost like Trump exists to make sure we vote for Hillary
I've always felt he existed for that reason. Clearly the two families are very close.
Then last night on his compliment he all but said she's the one....she dependable, she doesn't quit...
but America picked this nigga. There were a gang of choices, they all sucked, and America's racist ass picked this guy.
Nothing about that is anomalous to me.
He's the fucking worst but I don't think he's anything more than a reflection of this country's racist inhabitants.
The process he went through to arrive here didn't even require the kind of manipulation you're suggesting. White folks just finally got a racist candidate to support and they went crazy with the shit.
What's ISIS got to do with 'locker room talk'?
Trump answered a question from Anderson Cooper about the vulgar language he was caught on tape using a decade ago with a rant about ISIS, mentioning the group at least five times.
"Yes, I'm very embarrassed by it. I hate it. But it's locker room talk, and it's one of those things. I will knock the hell out of ISIS. We're going to defeat ISIS. ISIS happened a number of years ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgment. And I will tell you, I will take care of ISIS."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/10/politics/second-presidential-debate-international-issues/index.html
Trump answered a question from Anderson Cooper about the vulgar language he was caught on tape using a decade ago with a rant about ISIS, mentioning the group at least five times.
"Yes, I'm very embarrassed by it. I hate it. But it's locker room talk, and it's one of those things. I will knock the hell out of ISIS. We're going to defeat ISIS. ISIS happened a number of years ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgment. And I will tell you, I will take care of ISIS."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/10/politics/second-presidential-debate-international-issues/index.html
I think he was going in the right direction when handling that one, but dude is a dunce. He only has talking points with no content. He cannot give you any details on his stance on anything, health care, the economy, foreign policy, etc. I have yet to hear a detailed plan to address any issue that he's brought up. His details are insults and the blame game.
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