Sizzla 'Burn" Gays, The Media, The System & Repatriation. Respect!

[water]

See my comments in blue..............

Wait wait wait, brother who doesn't know Slavery was about economics and capitalism? But this is not part of the discussion. You've branched off and spun into a different side-topic.


We're talking about bigotry, bias, and hate for another person because of how they were born or what they look like.

1. Racism is not "bigotry, bias or hate".
Just stop your nonsense.
Racism is an economic system, not a feeling or a belief.


Oppression organizations, Xenophobes, and the other White Superiority groups that existed long before the KKK came into being did not hate us because of some economic factor.

2. Name a group before slavery that did this and was not motivated by economics

They hate(d) us because of how we looked and what they thought we were in so much as lacking of intellect. They submitted to their delusion and belief that they were superior because 'God made us so' ... or because of their light skin and "fair skin, and kind, refined and unbeastly features." and we were therefore were unevolved and backwards beast with dark skin scorched by the sun.

3. I think you need to go back to the source material and see how they described us. Read bartholomew de la casa, see the books they wrote about admiring African warriors, the black madonna, worshipping black people, the greeks begging to study in egypt cause they were banned there.

Go back to the source documents they themselves wrote. It contradicts what you are saying.
We were god's in their eyes and they wanted what we had.

They did not describe us the way you explained until AFTER they plotted how to take the shit and justify it.

4. Do you understand the flow now?

1. See advanced civilizations
2. Write about it
3. Go back to Europe and plan how to take shit
4. The scale of the plunder was so bad they then after 200 years came up with fucked up reasons for keeping the shit they took and for continuing to take shit.

You got your flow all fucked up, never had anything to do with skin color or race.

Their bias was based on nothing more than features and elements which we had no control over.

This is why research is necessary by each black person.

How the fuck you are going to rely on information given by the oppressor without doing your own research?

What part of the game is that?

 

[210]

^^^Listen, I don't want to get into a drawn out dialogue here. This isn't the forum and I don't want to derail a thread.

But if you think RACISM is an ECONOMIC SYSTEM, I don't know what school of Economics you went to but please, go get your money back.

For the avoidance of doubt:
Racism
Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. It often takes the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently.


I can get into the other topics your broached in another thread.
Please start a separate one and quote your reply, then @ tag my name so I get a notification, and I will discuss in more detail with you there.

Thank you.

 

[kefta]

Bun dem

 

[kefta]

bUMp!

 

[kefta]

Look up "Buck breaking", while prevalent in the US is was particularly endemic in the Caribbean on islands such as Jamaica. People do not/ should not forget.
http://hourtimenow.com/blogs/1/1258/breaking-the-buck

pEACe!

 

[MrBee]

Mr. Sizzla, You sir have gained a new fan today...

 

[fabregas]

Lol nigerian AND Jamaica ARE the western world. GTFO here with that "I'm African when I wanna be" bullshit.

Nigeria as a country is a western invention and your ass is still over here so you can taste in even more western delights. Yall cultural when it's convenient assholes kill me. You don't like gay shit- don't be gay. It's that simple. The second you offer violence to someone else you cross the line and you start sounding like a bigot. In the west or anywhere

You still can't rad mate. I live in America and accept the way things are. I was talking about my people back home. Why should the accept it because America accepts it? Nobody is advocating violence. Gays in Nigeria exist and live freely. They just can't get married and promote their lifestyle as its done in America. It's the peoples of Nigeria that chose to reject it.

 

[slam]

tell em how u really feel sizzla...



white people wicked as shit....

no further comment...but some good info in here...

 

[water]

^^^Listen, I don't want to get into a drawn out dialogue here. This isn't the forum and I don't want to derail a thread.

But if you think RACISM is an ECONOMIC SYSTEM, I don't know what school of Economics you went to but please, go get your money back.

For the avoidance of doubt:
Racism
Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. It often takes the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently.


I can get into the other topics your broached in another thread.
Please start a separate one and quote your reply, then @ tag my name so I get a notification, and I will discuss in more detail with you there.

Thank you.

That is where you are wrong.


That definition is wrong, it's not even a fucking definition


Look at the terms i highlighted in red.






Go and do your research.

It's 2015

 

[kefta]

^^^^

 

[210]

That is where you are wrong.


That definition is wrong, it's not even a fucking definition


Look at the terms i highlighted in red.






Go and do your research.

It's 2015

No need to do research.

I studied Economics. I have a minor degree in Economics.

Economics is a social behavioral discipline and mathematical science. It's quite pure in its logic.

There is no module for racism in the study of Economics.

Individuals try to clutter the study with their own biases and theorems (i.e. The Horse and Sparrow theory. Socialism.) but Economics is no more or less racist than pre-dispositions and mentality of the person applying the discipline.

If an Indian Doctor misused their knowledge of Pediatrics to kill Pakistani infants, would you then say Pediatrics is tool to further the advance racism?


Sorry sir, Racism is NOT an Economic System. Please show me ANY definition of Racism that points to Economics as its root cause.

 

[RUFukinSerious?]

Fear? I do not fear so called gay people. I am only against the racist/white supremacists agenda of making anti-sexual behavior the norm.

Fear?

Actually, if your talking white supremacy in AmeriKKKa, then that is represented by conservative evangelical christian bible thumpers housed in the Republican party which are firmly anti gay.

Also all this hate against Gays is religion based out of the three Abrahamic religions who mis-interpret the story of Saddam and Gomorrah, which scholars have since corrected as the cities being destroyed because there wasnt a kind person to be found in them sans Lot and his family.

While on the subject of religion.... guess which Bible story White Supremacist Conservatives used to justify the enslavement of Black people?

Hate is Hate, and one cant seriously justify for someone else the thing they protest against for themselves.

 

[cashwhisperer]

I just came in this post to say props to sizza, I will be checking out more of him.

Props to kefta, kaya, and anybody else supporting their claims.

Anybody else is lost and confused by the system of white supremacy.

 

[kefta]

Actually, if your talking white supremacy in AmeriKKKa, then that is represented by conservative evangelical christian bible thumpers housed in the Republican party which are firmly anti gay.

Also all this hate against Gays is religion based out of the three Abrahamic religions who mis-interpret the story of Saddam and Gomorrah, which scholars have since corrected as the cities being destroyed because there wasnt a kind person to be found in them sans Lot and his family.

While on the subject of religion.... guess which Bible story White Supremacist Conservatives used to justify the enslavement of Black people?

Hate is Hate, and one cant seriously justify for someone else the thing they protest against for themselves.

What is you definition of racism?

For me racism is white supremacy and white supremacy is racism. It is a global system that has nothing to do with Amerikkka. It is a way of life that all ABLE white people directly support and maintain. It is total domination of ALL non-white people by white people in all know areas of people activity such as Education, Entertainment, Economics, labor, law, Politics, Sex, War, Religion, etc.

And yeah, the most oppressive religion is not Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc. But the religion that all ABLE white people practice. That religion is called racism/white supremacy. All non-white people can not practice that religion because they are not white.

Get it?

 

[mangobob79]

No need to do research.

I studied Economics. I have a minor degree in Economics.

Economics is a social behavioral discipline and mathematical science. It's quite pure in its logic.

There is no module for racism in the study of Economics.

Individuals try to clutter the study with their own biases and theorems (i.e. The Horse and Sparrow theory. Socialism.) but Economics is no more or less racist than pre-dispositions and mentality of the person applying the discipline.

If an Indian Doctor misused their knowledge of Pediatrics to kill Pakistani infants, would you then say Pediatrics is tool to further the advance racism?


Sorry sir, Racism is NOT an Economic System. Please show me ANY definition of Racism that points to Economics as its root cause.

so 400years of free labor that built ur european empire isnt economic?

if racism was religious it would have freed the white man from his misguided hate!

if racism wasnt about ecoomic gain it would have just subjugated blackpeople without exploiting them for wealth!!

u see ,all the study in a college cannot overshadow real-life application of a system, no matter how u try to spin it.. same way u try to spin racism into REVERSE RACISM, the application of the belief and precepts in real life applications is vastly different from what branch of theory u try to mask it with..

take the SWASTIKA as an example:


no matter how u try to tell Jews and Colored folks that the SWASTIKA "ORIGINALLY" means "WELL BEING" in ancient sanskrit symbol in hindusim,buddhism,Janism..etc.. u will never get (so called)Jews to accept the FUNCTION of the SWASTIKA as a symbol of wellbeing , seeing as it was used as a symbol of their genocide, so no matter how many classes u try attend to convince urself about theories of human interaction thats based upon theories and ideas , its the REAL LIFE APPLICATIONS of said ideas that will define what the symbols mean.

RACISM AS WE KNOW IT NOW, IS WHITE HATRED FOR COLORED FOLKS,
WHITE POWER BASE USED AS A TOOL TO OPPRESS COLORED FOLKS...
U CANT CHANGE THAT..

THE SWASTIKA ,NOW ON ANY WALL ,IS A SYMBOL OF HATRED AND GENOCIDE,, U CANT CHANGE THAT EITHER!!

 

[210]

Again, and I repeat, Racism is not an Economic System.

Socialism is a system.
Feudalism is a system.
Capitalism is a system.
Barter is a system.



Racism can be a byproduct of those systems, but racism in and of itself is not a system.
Racism can happily exists with or without any economic benefit.

 

[kefta]

Again, and I repeat, Racism is not an Economic System.

Socialism is a system.
Feudalism is a system.
Capitalism is a system.
Barter is a system.



Racism can be a byproduct of those systems, but racism in and of itself is not a system.
Racism can happily exists with or without any economic benefit.

Where's your evidence that supports this position?
and while at it please define each one of those systems that you just mentioned.

 

[cashwhisperer]

Again, and I repeat, Racism is not an Economic System.

Socialism is a system.
Feudalism is a system.
Capitalism is a system.
Barter is a system.



Racism can be a byproduct of those systems, but racism in and of itself is not a system.
Racism can happily exists with or without any economic benefit.

Flat Wrong. Racism is a system.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Can you read mate? Who said America was bad? Who said I was from Jamaica? I'm from Nigeria mate. My point is why must we accept a shift in our culture to appease the western world ? Maybe one day it will be acceptable to be gay in Nigeria, but it should be on our own time, just as it was in America. Nobody forced gay acceptance on America. If 99.9 percent of people in Nigeria want a ban on gay marriage, it's their sovereign right to do so. In Nigeria you can be gay, you just can't be kissing in public. Straight men hold hands as a matter of friendship, this has been our tradition, but a man snaking another mans throat, no way mate.

 

[210]

Flat Wrong. Racism is a system.

Not in the context of his original reply, sir.

Kefta called Racism an Economic System.

It's not an economic system. An economic system is a system of production, consumption, and exchange of goods and services - and the allocation of resources in a society.

Racism can be a component in an economic system, but it cannot BE the Economic system.

Racism is a belief system. It is an emotion. It is a mentality.
One cannot buy, barter, finance or admister anything on Racism.


Metaphorically, he's calling a steering wheel a car. The inputs the driver makes on the steering wheel will guide what direction on the road car goes, but the steering wheel IS NOT the car.

In this example, the steering wheel is Racism and the Car is the economic system. Turn left, more racism. Turn right, less. But the car isn't the cause of Racism.

 

[210]

Where's your evidence that supports this position?
and while at it please define each one of those systems that you just mentioned.

Sir, it's Sunday.
I don't give Freshman level lectures on weekends.

The defintions of each of the 4 are easily accessible.

 

[rundatrack]

Most mofos in jamaica are not doing shit about gays now. Why...cuz a lot are licensed firearm holders.

Also if you really want to uplift jamaica. Go into the garrisons and take on the dons. Oh...u wouldnt do that because you know they will kill ya ass. March against Dons....go into the garrisons and call them out. Educate yourself about engineering and take on that Road commission about the inadequate drainage issue that plagues the island and washes away new roads sometimes in weeks. Take on teacher pay....go and form some type of union and fight for better pay. Bark like a fakking madman when the leaders in power are getting ass raped by the IMF...because as of today we are 115 to 1 and still sliding hard as fuck. Go take on the Riverton dump site and string up those fuckers because the smoke that is consuming the land is toxic as fakk and causing many schools to close.

Lets address the real issues with jamaica vs giving a fakk about some gays.


This mother fakker talking about setting up places to stay in all countries in africa...while the budget is fakking off a fakking cliff annually. Fakk outta here.

Wuss the fakker got caught with a fakking arsenal of firearms and is damn near a area leader in august town. FOH

 

[kefta]

Sir, it's Sunday.
I don't give Freshman level lectures on weekends.

The defintions of each of the 4 are easily accessible.

Nice deflection.

pEACe!

 

[water]

Racism is a belief system.

It is an emotion.

It is a mentality.



One cannot buy, barter, finance or admister anything on Racism.

Now racism is an emotion


I'm feeling racism and lightheaded cause I didn't eat lunch

 

[water]

.





Sociologist and former American Sociological Association president Joe Feagin argues that the United States can be characterized as a "total racist society" because racism is used to organize every social institution (Feagin 2000, p. 16).

More recently, Feagin has articulated a comprehensive theory of racial oppression in the U.S. in his book
Systemic Racism: A Theory of Oppression (Routledge, 2006).

Feagin examines how major institutions have been built upon racial oppression which was not an accident of history, but was created intentionally by white Americans.

In Feagin's view, white Americans labored hard to create a system of racial oppression in the 17th century and have worked diligently to maintain the system ever since.

While Feagin acknowledges that changes have occurred in this racist system over the centuries, he contends that key and fundamental elements have been reproduced over nearly four centuries, and that U.S. institutions today reflect the racialized hierarchy created in the 17th century.

Today, as in the past, racial oppression is not just a surface-level feature of this society, but rather pervades, permeates, and interconnects all major social groups, networks, and institutions across the society.

Feagin's definition stands in sharp contrast to psychological definitions that assume racism is an "attitude" or an irrational form of bigotry that exists apart from the organization of social structure.








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[THE DRIZZY]

 

[kinglickk]

buck-breaking??...

 

[kinglickk]

buck-breaking??...

 

[kefta]

Now racism is an emotion


I'm feeling racism and lightheaded cause I didn't eat lunch

 

[kefta]

buck-breaking??...

Word!

 

[water]

Right?

 

[II Dxnum]

fire is the purification.

 

[RUFukinSerious?]

What is you definition of racism?

For me racism is white supremacy and white supremacy is racism. It is a global system that has nothing to do with Amerikkka. It is a way of life that all ABLE white people directly support and maintain. It is total domination of ALL non-white people by white people in all know areas of people activity such as Education, Entertainment, Economics, labor, law, Politics, Sex, War, Religion, etc.

And yeah, the most oppressive religion is not Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc. But the religion that all ABLE white people practice. That religion is called racism/white supremacy. All non-white people can not practice that religion because they are not white.

Get it?

Racism is an economic dynamic in which we are fighting for the lions share of resources as groups based on racial identities.

i.e A race to the top by controlling materials, minerals, and real estate wealth (land).
The issue of gays is nothing more than a distraction which is based on religion to keep the masses divided and fighting among self while those at the top rob us all blind.

I like a lot of what Sizzla has to say but on this subject he's dead wrong and I see no need to defend dead wrong regardless of who's mouth it spews from.

There are plenty issues to deal with that really affect us as a people and who someone chooses to fuck is not one of them.

I mind my damn business when it comes to gays since I'm not one. its not for me to decide if theyre right or wrong anymore than it is for white people to decide whats best for black people.

There's way too many divisions in our community, and we like fools gladly join in on self hatred of our brothas and sistas who share an alternative lifestyle same like we do on skin tone, and origins.

We should be uniting politically, economically, and socially to pool resources that can buy...... land, homes, investments, businesses, commercial real estate, start businesses and industries that link up with each other to keep money in our community.

This is what we need to do, then turn it into political power that controls our representatives who will write the laws and control the police.

Thats the real, thats all that matters!


You asked me what my definition of racism is... simple... its a race to accumulate wealth and power. A race that we're losing BADLEY!

Time to wake up and unite. anything else.... read my sig.

 

[water]

Yezziirr! Fya bun babylon!!

 

[The Plutonian]

I've never understood why heterosexuals would invest any time being worried or even mildly concerned about what homos do. I always watch those who protest too much.

Basically, you're one of em huh? Nah man but seriously what kinda name is sizzla? What he grill or something?