Ask Drake. He praised him lyrically. Drake doesn't want it, because Joey will continue to light his ass up.
And as far as being "super lyrical." There's always an argument against that. No one is super lyrical. But Joe been had them bars.
This is white collar vs blue collar.
Let that man answer his own inquires. Ortiz isn't Joe nor has the major/ underground acceptance as Joe. He learned from him lyically. Joe was cooking in the early ealry 2000s. Ortiz wasn't.
So you're fwella now?
But what's not argumentative is that Drake stands a chance in that octagon. OCKtagon. And you know it.
If Joe is the fifth best, Drake and his team of writers are the sixth best, at best.
P.Monch >>>
Hit Em Up got rotation in major markets. But Drake is taking an L here. L to Pusha, L to Common, L to Luda, L to Kendrick. I honestly wish Phonte and Pooh had roasted his Ass.
COLIN POWELL WARNING:
Here's how it started (family can chime in if I happen to miss anything....I've been following Joe's podcast since the beginning so I've been paying attention)....And for the record, I've listened to Drake since "Comeback Season" so you know I'm not biased. But Drake has been acting like a bitch lately, so from this point forward he will be known as "Aubrey."
-Back in the Joe Budden TV days (before/when So Far Gone dropped,) Aubrey and Joe meet. Aubrey admits (on camera, in fact) that he's a Joe Budden stan. They stay cool and in contact, and over time end up fuckin a LOT on bitches in common.
-Some years later (when Aubrey blows up, he calls Joe, admitting he smashed Tahiry, Joe's recent ex at the time. Joe blows it off and gives him the OK, saying there's "No love lost." (see what I did there.) Joe obviously still feels a certain type of way though.
-Aubrey and Meek exchange disses...and Joe STILL supports/defends Aubrey and says Fuck Meek...and fuck Nikki too.
-"Views" drops. Joe critiques it on the "I'll name this podcast later" podcast for an hour plus, saying Aubrey no longer sounds "inspired" (fact) and that he picks on the little guy (all of the shots taken at Tory Lanez, yet Aubrey ignores Pusha, Common, and K.Dot when they come for him.) Joe STILL admits that he loves Aubrey's music.
-Aubrey records "No Shopping" with French in May...French leaks the "Pump pump pump it up" line...Joe sees the clip and hits the studio and starts writing "Afraid" and records it...but doesn't release it until the French track is released. Joe also starts writing two more Aubrey disses
-Aubrey drops "4pm in Calabasas, which most ppl think is a 100% Diddy diss....but its not. About 90% of the song is directed toward Joe....not even Joe realizes this at first.
-Once Joe "wakes up" and sees all of the subs Aubrey gave him on "4pm," he drops "Making a Murderer pt. 1" and then drops "Wake" a few days later.....and Aubrey has YET to respond to ANY of the records
-Joe finally releases "Afraid," then French's "No Shopping" ft. Aubrey is released (folks think that "No Shopping" is a response to "Afraid," but it was actually recorded MONTHS ago, after Joe did the podcast dissing "Views...")
Aubrey KNOWS he can't fuck with Joe lyrically....but Joe is such a self-admitted sociopath that he refuses to let it go until Aubrey responds. He even admits to LOVING the "4pm in Calabasas track, because he sees the "hunger" in Aubrey again. I almost feel like Joe maybe trolling Aubrey because a) he KNOWS that he will destroy him lyrically b) Joe doesn't give a fuck about popularity and c) Hip Hop was BUILT on competition....
Aiight I'm done.
*sidenote: I am NOT Joe Budden. I promise. *
i respect your top 4 regardless of the order. i think drake can rhyme when he choose to. but i don't think he's top 5. those 4 dudes on that list got classic albums and 20 years in aside from big ,for obvious reasons.
My Personal G.O.A.T!!!
lets put this to the test. give me budden's best verse.
That's all argumentative. 5th best?
Post them. And I don't even listen to Joe Budden songs like that anymore. Let's battle though. Joe is one of his daddy's. You can't win. No features neither.
You damn right Joe will bar him to death.
And better songs like what?
