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stretchwallz said:
Jon has had a lot of experience fighting in what is essentially military/prison conditions of the wall. Ramsey is a great hunter but they always have the upper hand.

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Jon was trained since birth by the best u can tell hes not just competent but he excels. Could be due to the fact that hes a bastid and doesnt really chill with the family like that but uses his training as an outlet.


Btw I loved this episide (B.O.B) watched it three times. The dynamic between Jon and Ramsey reminded me of Batman and The Joker. In a straight up physical fight there is no challenge but the later always uses some kinda mind fuck to the get the skilled fighter to make a mistake and make it a even battle.
 
storm_shadoh said:
Jon was trained since birth by the best u can tell hes not just competent but he excels. Could be due to the fact that hes a bastid and doesnt really chill with the family like that but uses his training as an outlet.


Btw I loved this episide watched it three times. The dynamic between Jon and Ramsey reminded me of Batman and The Joker. In a straight up physical fight there is no challenge but the later always uses some kinda mind fuck to the get the skilled fighter to make a mistake and make it a even battle.
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Well the actor who played Ramsay did say that he drew some inspiration for his performance from heath ledger's joker.
 
Jay-Vill said:
Stop and crawl?
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actually i thought about this instead of the zig zag. reality is that, if ramseys original plan didnt work, he woulda done something else. more archers if he zig zag, send horsemen if he did something else. rickon was dead weeks ago.

all that didnt matter at the end tho. if rickon lived so what? rightful heir to winterfell? in 10 yrs maybe. right now he would be a puppet, esp since he just damn clueless to everything :smh:

Mr. Lengthy
 
tekktron said:
When I hear these "Ramsey could have killed Jon in a one on one but he didn't really want to" excuses, it's like a person telling his girl, "Bae, if I floor the ignition in this Accord, I could smoke that Z06 Corvete if I really wanted to. But no need to showboat how 'vicious' this LX is, think I'll just chill" lol
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:lol:EX-L 6-6s are the only fast Accords... Duh!!!
 
PsiBorg said:
When it's all said and done, I believe Jon is going to make a major play for Westeros. He's not going to want too, but he is. He's going to secure the North now. I believe he's going to let Sansa keep Winterfell, and he's going to be persuaded to move on to Westeros because of the Long Night that's coming. Those in Westeros think that the Night's King is a fairy tale. I wouldn't be surprised if Littlefinger tells him, "You need to be in Westeros because the Lannisters are f*cking up. I can help you save everyone."

I believe that Jon is Targaryan & Stark (I bet Varys already knows this). Jon is going to be the one who's going to be in Daenerys' way though. She's going to be bringing Dragons and Dothraki; and Jon is going to figure out how to get them White Walkers (maybe with Bran's help). If they do it right, they'll have the greatest television event of all time.
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The one thing you probably didn’t notice about Daenerys and Jon in “Battle of the Bastards”



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Game of Thrones spoiler alert! If you haven’t watched Sunday’s episode, “Battle of the Bastards,” turn back now WHILE YOU CAN.



If you’re still replaying every epic second from Game of Thrones‘ most-anticipated episode of the season, “Battle of the Bastards,” in your head, I’m right there with you. And if you plan on re-watching the episode at least three more times before the finale to catch any small, but crazy-important details you may have missed — that’s probably a good plan. Because the night is dark and full of SYMBOLISM.



We’ve already pointed out that Jon used a very special shield when protecting himself from Ramsay’s arrows. And that gigantic nod to Hodor. And now we’re going to talk about another small but tremendous detail that is going to make your brain MELT.



It’s the fact that “Battle of the Bastards” emphasized major parallels between Daenerys Targaryen and Jon Snow’s storylines.



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First of all, the episode was split in two — it followed the battle happening in Meereen, and it followed the battle in the North.



While Dany led her army of Dothraki and teen dragons and defeated the Masters and Sons of Harpy, Jon and his army of Free Folk and Mormonts defeated the Bolton army (with help of the Vale, aka Littlefinger and Sansa).



But there was a very, very specific Jon Snow scene that probably seemed familiar to you.



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Remember this moment? Of course you do — in this very moment, you exhaled all the air you had been holding in your ribcage because you totally thought Jon was going to die, didn’t you? He almost did suffocate under a mountain of bodies, but at the last second, he emerges, gasping for air. Much like how he gasped for air when Melisandre revived him — but that’s not the familiar scene we’re talking about.



We’re talking about the scene when Daenerys is lifted by the Yunkish in Season 4 and called “Mhysa,” which means “Mother.”



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Both instances were, in some ways, forms of “rebirth.” Jon almost dies (for the second time, come on you beautiful man, get it together), and Dany takes on a new role as leader.



Plus, the contrast of colors is SUPER important.



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It’s orange versus blue, OR fire versus ice. Or, you know, A Song of Ice and Fire. Because L + R = J. Because Lyanna and Rhaegar had a baby, and that baby is Jon. Because Dany and Jon are most likely related. Because these two are destined to do very big, cool things in Westeros and conquer those who need to be conquered.



Mind = BLOWN.
 
'Game of Thrones' Stars Score Hefty Pay Raises for Season 8
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'Game of Thrones' Courtesy of HBO


Due to score sizable pay bumps are leads Peter Dinklage (Tyrion Lannister), Kit Harington (Jon Snow), Lena Headey (Cersei Lannister), Emilia Clarke (Daenerys Targaryen) and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jaime Lannister). They'll each earn upward of $500,000 per episode of season seven, which has already been announced, and in the likely eighth season (which is all but a formality). The raises for season seven come as part of an option HBO had with the cast as part of their last deal, signed in October 2014, that saw the five stars each become among the highest-paid actors on cable TV. The premium cable network had the option on season seven, and that has now been exercised and packaged with season eight. While the five stars are locked in, it does not guarantee that their characters will survive through what is expected to be the end of the series. HBO declined comment on the salary bumps.


Season eight has not yet been announced but is wildly expected as the drama, from showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss is, in their words, "approaching the finish line." The duo told THR ahead of the current sixth season — which wraps Sunday — that they are "writing the final act" and are "looking at somewhere between 70 and 75 hours before the credits roll for the last time."

Also unclear are just how many episodes seasons seven and eight will consist of. When season six wraps this weekend, Thrones will have aired 60 episodes, meaning the remaining two seasons could be short-orders to match the 75 hours producers have envisioned.

The contracts of the remaining stars, including Sophie Turner (Sansa Stark), Maisie Williams (Arya Stark) and others, has not yet been completed. Their last deal, in October 2014, also saw them net hefty raises with an option for season seven.

Game of Thrones ranks as HBO's most-watched series ever and is the premium outlet's longest-running show currently on the air.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/game-thrones-stars-score-hefty-905288

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Game of Thrones stars Emilia Clarke and Kit Harington ‘will earn over $500,000 an episode in seasons 7 and 8’
Rebecca Hawkes
22 JUNE 2016 • 10:30AM
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Emilia Clarke as Daenerys in HBO's Game of Thrones

The Game of Thrones producers might not pay the iron price for their actors – that would presumably involve murdering various agents and managers and carrying the unfortunate thesps off into the night. But when it comes to their key cast members, they are prepared to pay a lot of cash.

According to a story published yesterday in The Hollywood Reporter – which came via an unnamed source close to the show – Peter Dinklage (Tyrion Lannister), Kit Harington (Jon Snow), Lena Headey (Cersei Lannister), Emilia Clarke (Daenerys Targaryen) and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jaime Lannister) will “each earn upward of $500,000 per episode of season seven”.

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Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Jaime Lannister and Lena Headey as Cersei Lannister CREDIT:HBO
The source also indicated that the five cast members would most likely receive a similar amount in season eight, which has not yet been formally announced, but which is widely anticipated by fans of the show.

Back in 2014, when the Game of Thrones contracts were last negotiated, there were reports that the same five cast members – Dinklage, Headey, Coster-Waldau, Harington and Clarke – would be receiving $300,000 per episode. If true, the latest figures indicate a significant increase.

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Kit Harington as Jon Snow CREDIT: HBO
There has been no word as yet on the reported salaries for other actors in the show, including Sophie Turner and Maisie Williams, who play Stark sisters Sansa and Arya.

Crucially, the source made it clear that the alleged contracts and pay packets do not mean that the characters played by the actors are “safe” – the amounts listed are per episode, and there’s been no guarantee about who will and won’t survive season seven.

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Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister CREDIT: HBO
That said, if the report is true, it does indicate that Tyrion, Daenerys, Jon, Jaime and Cersei will probably emerge unscathed from Sunday’s season six finale.

The latter two names are especially interesting, given that a recent, popular fan theory suggested that Jaime might be forced to kill his sister/lover Cersei, in order to prevent her from destroying King’s Landing with wildfire. Of course, while there have been subtle indications within the show that a Cersei/wildfire storyline could be on the cards, there’s absolutely no reason why it would necessarily take place next week, or even early on in season seven.

It’s also been indicated by Game of Thrones showrunners David Benioff and DB Weiss (but not officially confirmed) that the expected final two seasons might be shorter than the usual 10-episode runs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/...rs-emilia-clarke-and-kit-harington-will-earn/
 
stretchwallz said:
Jon has had a lot of experience fighting in what is essentially military/prison conditions of the wall. Ramsey is a great hunter but they always have the upper hand.

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Jon Snow learned from Karl that there is no honor in fighting. When he was fighting Styr, he used the spit in the face method he learned from his battle with Karl
 
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darth frosty said:
The one thing you probably didn’t notice about Daenerys and Jon in “Battle of the Bastards”



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Game of Thrones spoiler alert! If you haven’t watched Sunday’s episode, “Battle of the Bastards,” turn back now WHILE YOU CAN.



If you’re still replaying every epic second from Game of Thrones‘ most-anticipated episode of the season, “Battle of the Bastards,” in your head, I’m right there with you. And if you plan on re-watching the episode at least three more times before the finale to catch any small, but crazy-important details you may have missed — that’s probably a good plan. Because the night is dark and full of SYMBOLISM.



We’ve already pointed out that Jon used a very special shield when protecting himself from Ramsay’s arrows. And that gigantic nod to Hodor. And now we’re going to talk about another small but tremendous detail that is going to make your brain MELT.



It’s the fact that “Battle of the Bastards” emphasized major parallels between Daenerys Targaryen and Jon Snow’s storylines.



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First of all, the episode was split in two — it followed the battle happening in Meereen, and it followed the battle in the North.



While Dany led her army of Dothraki and teen dragons and defeated the Masters and Sons of Harpy, Jon and his army of Free Folk and Mormonts defeated the Bolton army (with help of the Vale, aka Littlefinger and Sansa).



But there was a very, very specific Jon Snow scene that probably seemed familiar to you.



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Remember this moment? Of course you do — in this very moment, you exhaled all the air you had been holding in your ribcage because you totally thought Jon was going to die, didn’t you? He almost did suffocate under a mountain of bodies, but at the last second, he emerges, gasping for air. Much like how he gasped for air when Melisandre revived him — but that’s not the familiar scene we’re talking about.



We’re talking about the scene when Daenerys is lifted by the Yunkish in Season 4 and called “Mhysa,” which means “Mother.”



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Both instances were, in some ways, forms of “rebirth.” Jon almost dies (for the second time, come on you beautiful man, get it together), and Dany takes on a new role as leader.



Plus, the contrast of colors is SUPER important.



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HBO

It’s orange versus blue, OR fire versus ice. Or, you know, A Song of Ice and Fire. Because L + R = J. Because Lyanna and Rhaegar had a baby, and that baby is Jon. Because Dany and Jon are most likely related. Because these two are destined to do very big, cool things in Westeros and conquer those who need to be conquered.



Mind = BLOWN.
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What site is this from?
 
storm_shadoh said:
The dynamic between Jon and Ramsey reminded me of Batman and The Joker. In a straight up physical fight there is no challenge but the later always uses some kinda mind fuck to the get the skilled fighter to make a mistake and make it a even battle.
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You would think the rest of them would have gotten that without it being said. But hopefully this can be the end of the fucking argument.
 
tekktron said:
Rising to Lord Commander, killing whitewalker knights, crushed TWO mutinies, defeated a Wildling invasion wave at Castle Black with a small squadron, made peace with the Wildlings, bravely retrieved the Wildings (including a small army) from the invading Whitewalker army at Hardhome, had the Wildlings accept him as their leader, and rising from the dead is nothing short of legendary. Ramsey gave it his all to the very end. Copping pleas for Ramsey to the point of making up stuff (i.e. Ramsey didn't really attempt to kill Jon when he CLEARLY was) is silly. The defeat of the Boltons/Umber/Karstarks will absolutely go in the Westeros history books contrast to Ramsey who won't even be a footnote, just a nameless "bosstard". Sansa will make good on that promise.

Jon had numerous one on one fights within the fray of that epic war, his kill stats were rising exponentially. Jon's swordsmanship on the battlefield doesn't need any "bolstering", his slicing and dicing spoke for itself. Nothing "novice" about impaling numerous knights coming at you on horseback. That's masterful swordsmanship.

So, a coward who ran from the battlefield was then suppose to give Jon a run for his money in a one on one? Cool story, bro:roflmao:
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You've said a lot of nothing. If you can't name great opponents in those battles it doesn't mean anything. Its not like he fought the mountain, the hound,Oberyn or anyone else of note (that I recall).

Next I called the some of the men Jon trained on the nights watch novice not Jon himself which is a fact. Even with that it's not as if Jon had years of real battle experience prior to the watch.

The legendary battle you speak of was his sister victory or maybe little fingers. As I said before the historians may change the facts, but everyone who was there on the field knows the truth. Ned didn't really defeat Arthur Dayne, yet up until Brans vision it was believed that Ned killed one of the most skilled fighters of their time.

By no means am I saying Ramsey was a great fighter, but he seemed to be more talented as a fighter than how he dies. Not only that but the scene doesn't make sense.even if Ramsey is a better bowman, it doesn't make sense to not switch to swords or daggers for a close range fight. It's not like Jon ran up on him and we all can agree Ramsey was tactical.
 
guyver said:
You've said a lot of nothing. If you can't name great opponents in those battles it doesn't mean anything. Its not like he fought the mountain, the hound,Oberyn or anyone else of note (that I recall).

Next I called the some of the men Jon trained on the nights watch novice not Jon himself which is a fact. Even with that it's not as if Jon had years of real battle experience prior to the watch.

The legendary battle you speak of was his sister victory or maybe little fingers. As I said before the historians may change the facts, but everyone who was there on the field knows the truth. Ned didn't really defeat Arthur Dayne, yet up until Brans vision it was believed that Ned killed one of the most skilled fighters of their time.

By no means am I saying Ramsey was a great fighter, but he seemed to be more talented as a fighter than how he dies. Not only that but the scene doesn't make sense.even if Ramsey is a better bowman, it doesn't make sense to not switch to swords or daggers for a close range fight. It's not like Jon ran up on him and we all can agree Ramsey was tactical.
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But thats the thing, Ramsey Can fight, He just knew he prolly wasnt better than Jon.

I agree with you, Jon is not a great fighter, he is a brawler with speed.
 
Jay_from_dade said:
But thats the thing, Ramsey Can fight, He just knew he prolly wasnt better than Jon.

I agree with you, Jon is not a great fighter, he is a brawler with speed.
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I think Ramsey just didn't feel the need to battle Jon. He had the tactical advantage over Jon. To your point even if he wasn't sure if he could win in a one on one fights, it would be dumb to risk your life when clearly the odds are in your favor. The man killed his dad and baby brother so you know he doesn't give a fuck about honor or the lives that could be saved. In fact Ramsey gets off on seeing sick shit, so men dying in battle probably was the true reason he turned down the fight and not out of fear of death/defeat.
 
guyver said:
I think Ramsey just didn't feel the need to battle Jon. He had the tactical advantage over Jon. To your point even if he wasn't sure if he could win in a one on one fights, it would be dumb to risk your life when clearly the odds are in your favor. The man killed his dad and baby brother so you know he doesn't give a fuck about honor or the lives that could be saved. In fact Ramsey gets off on seeing sick shit, so men dying in battle probably was the true reason he turned down the fight and not out of fear of death/defeat.
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bruh you preaching to the choir, I been saying this since the episode went off. :lol:
 

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