2015-2016 NBA playoff edition: Finals - Cavs vs Warriors - Cavs win 4-3

Who's you going with Cavs or Warriors!!!


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Yeah. Curry has the luxury of being shielded. He can often relax on defense and that team has so much offensive balance, that he can afford to have nights like this in the Finals... he often performs, but it's just the reality that he is on a squad where he can score 11 points and still win by double digits in the Finals. If Lebron scores 10 points in any game in this finals, it's an automatic loss for the Cavs.
Ya don't say.
 
Stats like this don't mean shit with all those Finals losses.
That's what Dude does though... It's really weird and embarrassing. Whenever LeBron loses or struggles, he googles and tries to flood the board with irrelevant shit like this to deflect from the L Dude just took. It's almost like he's trying to 'protect' him or something. At this point I realize this guy has a strange almost gay emotional attachment to LeBron so I normally ignore his posts at this point. You will see, that will be 95% of his post this series, weird shit man... :smh:
 
they do though lets stop playing lebron. he has 2 rings. they are to be respected. he gets the teams to the finals. so he's not underachieving because he's not undefeated in the finals.
in the beginning of the year if he's on your team you know you got a chance to compete for a championship.
right now that list is his name long. and that's it.
He does have two. Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, McGrady, Iverson, CP3, and Melo would love to have 1. I honestly think LeBron needs to stop trying to build super teams. Just get one other superstar that'll show up night in and night out. Then instead of a third superstar just get the best role players and former starters to fill out the roster. That way he could rest sometimes knowing his teammates could help him out more.

The problem I think he has is that the West is stacked and the east is weak so he dominates his conference. When he finally faces off against a west team his team struggles because their conference didn't test them like the West's team does and will during the playoffs.
 
but that's what i mean though because when he's on it don't matter what you do. when he's average he'll make a good amount when he's off he'll just miss. its the layups that let me know he was done for.
however this isn't me saying he wasn't smedium tonight. he was and mainly because of his defensive effort
klay wasn't smedium to me he was off he gave it all on defense though
Klay and Curry are just well coached and have no egos. They only took 12 shots a piece. Instead of forcing up shots they allowed the bench and role players do them. That says alot about their character
 
That's what Dude does though... It's really weird and embarrassing. Whenever LeBron loses or struggles, he googles and tries to flood the board with irrelevant shit like this to deflect from the L Dude just took. It's almost like he's trying to 'protect' him or something. At this point I realize this guy has a strange almost gay emotional attachment to LeBron so I normally ignore his posts at this point. You will see, that will be 95% of his post this series, weird shit man... :smh:

:rolleyes2: ...says the troll with the gay emotional attachment to Curry
 
Key difference in the teams.... Coaching.

Kerr is much better at analyzing IN game, adjusting his rotations and flow and is not afraid to sit a star for a period of time if the bench player is playing better. His team trusts him and buys in to what he's doing.

Lue, not so much. The playoff run has been smoke and mirrors because they've play teams who may nail you with one good punch, but really weren't versatile enough to KEEP punching them in the mouth. Absolutely no in game adjustments, his rotations were ass and when your dealing with players with egos as fragile as LeBrons and Kyries, no matter how they are playing or how well the bench is playing, there is always the need to get them back in the game in order to 'not' upset them....
 
Lebron really can't do much more because their struggles aren't things he can really fix. He can't make Smith make shots.... he can't defend every position on the court....if Lebron scored 10 more points, it really doesn't change anything.. and he already have 12 rebounds and 9 assists.. if Lebron has to score 40 points while also having a triple double in order for his team to win in the finals, shit is over.
Lebron can stop trying to be a GM, firing coaches and actually let coaches do their jobs. He may actually see results if he did that.
 
:rolleyes2: ...says the troll with the gay emotional attachment to Curry :lol:

Prove I have a gay emotion for Curry... FOH son, quote ONE post that indicates that! You sound like a bitch coming in flailing away caping for that man.... , what yall fucking faggit?! I upset you a lil bit pussy!?! Caping for another Nigga, but I'm gay though! WOW!!! :lol:

Post ONE gay post that I have about Curry... I'll wait lil fella :popcorn:
 
Key difference in the teams.... Coaching.

Kerr is much better at analyzing IN game, adjusting his rotations and flow and is not afraid to sit a star for a period of time if the bench player is playing better. His team trusts him and buys in to what he's doing.

Lue, not so much. The playoff run has been smoke and mirrors because they've play teams who may nail you with one good punch, but really weren't versatile enough to KEEP punching them in the mouth. Absolutely no in game adjustments, his rotations were ass and when your dealing with players with egos as fragile as LeBrons and Kyries, no matter how they are playing or how well the bench is playing, there is always the need to get them back in the game in order to 'not' upset them....
Been telling dudes since the Detroit series about the Cavs and they would not listen. Most still not hearing it.

I sat there and charted every single offensive possession of the Cavs and it was all fools gold. The ball really never moves and their offense is 4 people standing around and one player create.

Dudes even clowned me about how Lue and Lebron going small was going to be easy work for the Warriors but they refused to listen.
 
Been telling dudes since the Detroit series about the Cavs and they would not listen. Most still not hearing it.

I sat there and charted every single offensive possession of the Cavs and it was all fools gold. The ball really never moves and their offense is 4 people standing around and one player create.

Dudes even clowned me about how Lue and Lebron going small was going to be easy work for the Warriors but they refused to listen.

Respect to you fam because you are right! I remember early in the Hawks series when they set the record and ALL OF US were crowing, you said this shit and I for one clowned you, so word, I stand corrected... Respect :yes:

Lue is going to have to earn his chops, and I believe at some point during this series, the Cleveland organization, LeBron, etc. will appreciate if nothing else, the coaching experience Blatt brought to them. Say what you will about how they got there, but they NEVER looked this bad during last years finals...
 
This is what makes Curry great. He will not shoot his team out of a game. Curry does not have an ego and is willing to let others shine. His team was on fire so he simply took a back seat tonight and let them lead the team while he took on the role of a role player.

His team did not need him so there was no reason for him to jack up shots. Lebron on the other hand took another L:lol:

Thats what a good point guard does.
 
This is what makes Curry great. He will not shoot his team out of a game. Curry does not have an ego and is willing to let others shine. His team was on fire so he simply took a back seat tonight and let them lead the team while he took on the role of a role player.

His team did not need him so there was no reason for him to jack up shots. Lebron on the other hand took another L:lol:

Thats what a good point guard does.
 
Yeah. Curry has the luxury of being shielded. He can often relax on defense and that team has so much offensive balance, that he can afford to have nights like this in the Finals... he often performs, but it's just the reality that he is on a squad where he can score 11 points and still win by double digits in the Finals. If Lebron scores 10 points in any game in this finals, it's an automatic loss for the Cavs.

Can't really fault Curru for that.. The GM was smart to surround him with talent.. Bron had that In Miami where defenses couldn't just focus on him which made them deadly.. Him and Wade was the best 1-2 punches hands down and still is even better than Steph and Klay..

Remember him Wade and Bosh went to the finals their first year by themselves just them 3.. Kyrie is not Wade nor love is not Bosh that's the glaring fact in all of this.. Bron Wade and Bosh was a deadly trifecta on defense..

Bron with this Cavs team is wearing too many hats and just because he picks his own players to play with doesn't mean his the best evaluator of talent..

Props to Jerry West still being a consultant with the Warriors
 
Can't really fault Curru for that.. The GM was smart to surround him with talent.. Bron had that In Miami where defenses couldn't just focus on him which made them deadly.. Him and Wade was the best 1-2 punches hands down and still is even better than Steph and Klay..

Remember him Wade and Bosh went to the finals their first year by themselves just them 3.. Kyrie is not Wade nor love is not Bosh that's the glaring fact in all of this.. Bron Wade and Bosh was a deadly trifecta on defense..

Bron with this Cavs team is wearing too many hats and just because he picks his own players to play with doesn't mean his the best evaluator of talent..

Props to Jerry West still being a consultant with the Warriors

:sssshhh: these fools still haven't learned their lesson about putting your BEST player in a position they have to expend so much energy on the defensive end they burn out at end of games... Maybe they need to tweet Westbrook and ask him about that shit, IF he even gets the messages, you know he's out on a fishing boat right now behind that dumb shit right!?!?! Some people really don't know shit about the concept of basketball Bruh :smh:

Not referring to you @Spectrum , but I'm sure at some point especially if Curry explodes the board will be flooded with that dumb ass parroted rhetoric again... :lol:
 
Another note yeah curry and Klay didn't have their best games offensively but they didnt shoot their team out of the game either.. Add the intangibles of the threat that Curry and Klay possess and you see why the Cavs lost the way they did..

Cavs smothered curry all night on the pick and roll but guess what that leaves Draymond in the post to facilitate, that leaves Barnes for open shots that leaves Iggy for open shots and facilitate and leaves Bogut open by the basket..

Soon as the cavs eased up on Curry and Klay both of them buried the Cavs to put the game away..

Next game Cavs gonna focus on traping Livingston in the post when he post up Kyrie.. Another bad idea because if Curry,Dray and Iggy are in the lineup somebody on the Cavs going to get baked...

You can let Bron work that post all night.. Kyrie will try and ISO to hide the fact he's ass on defense.. Love going to get baked on them rotations again..

GS has 8-9 playmakers who can get their own shot.... Cavs have 2 and a bunch of specialist.. Who's winning that battle?
 
Been telling dudes since the Detroit series about the Cavs and they would not listen. Most still not hearing it.

I sat there and charted every single offensive possession of the Cavs and it was all fools gold. The ball really never moves and their offense is 4 people standing around and one player create.

Dudes even clowned me about how Lue and Lebron going small was going to be easy work for the Warriors but they refused to listen.


True but if we know this shit don't u think they know this shit.

Ball movement is the key for them as constructed against the dubs...

Damn near everybody on this board hates that ISO shit,
last year ok we understood, y'all can get a small/tiny pass for it then...

I understand take what the defense gives u but damn there wasn't no urgency, maybe for an minute and half spurt...the got within one point Kerr called a timeout...
 
Another note yeah curry and Klay didn't have their best games offensively but they didnt shoot their team out of the game either.. Add the intangibles of the threat that Curry and Klay possess and you see why the Cavs lost the way they did..

Cavs smothered curry all night on the pick and roll but guess what that leaves Draymond in the post to facilitate, that leaves Barnes for open shots that leaves Iggy for open shots and facilitate and leaves Bogut open by the basket..

Soon as the cavs eased up on Curry and Klay both of them buried the Cavs to put the game away..

Next game Cavs gonna focus on traping Livingston in the post when he post up Kyrie.. Another bad idea because if Curry,Dray and Iggy are in the lineup somebody on the Cavs going to get baked...

You can let Bron work that post all night.. Kyrie will try and ISO to hide the fact he's ass on defense.. Love going to get baked on them rotations again..

GS has 8-9 playmakers who can get their own shot.... Cavs have 2 and a bunch of specialist.. Who's winning that battle?



This not in the cavs favor but how bout using your specialist some
 
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Lebron just have to play strong, attack and play above the rim...



This is the difference between teams. You rip them in practice, team meetings, etc. but you ALWAYS show a united front in the public eye! That's why GS trusts each other, they play looser, and the entire team has each others back. While LeBron's style of play seems to show he is about team, he's emotional to a fault sometimes, and has a poor me attitude at times, and that DOES NOT breed team continuity and trust... Regardless of his style of play, he at times can be a selfish Dude and not about team building...

How many times has he shit on Love, Kyrie, etc but yet, you want your team to come together and play as a team, but you tear them apart in public?!?!?!
 
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Why is he ripping the bench? The fact is GS bench have guys who will start on other teams and Cavs bench is all role players who are specialist.. You will lose that battle 10/10 times..
 
This is the difference between teams. You rip them in practice, team meetings, etc. but you ALWAYS show a united front in the public eye! That's why GS trusts each other, they play looser, and the entire team has each others back. While LeBron's style of play seems to show he is about team, he's emotional to a fault sometimes, and has a poor me attitude at times, and that DOES NOT breed team continuity and trust... Regardless of his style of play, he at times can be a selfish Dude and not about team building...

How many times has he shit on Love, Kyrie, etc but yet, you want your team to come together and play as a team, but you tear them apart in public?!?!?!



True he's a prick but he does them both(privately and in public), TMov caught it so bad in practice last year it was a shame, from the stories I read.
 
Why is he ripping the bench? The fact is GS bench have guys who will start on other teams and Cavs bench is all role players who are specialist.. You will lose that battle 10/10 times..



Yea I haven't seen any post game interviews yet...I'm link them in a minute.
 
Why Warriors' win is bad news for Cavs
Yahoo Sports By Adrian Wojnarowski of The Vertical 6 hours ago

Golden State Warriors’ sideline.

Finally, the MVP hit a three for the first time since the first quarter and sent Golden State trainer Drew Yoder hustling for a clean mouthpiece. “I was just frustrated missing open shots and turning the ball over, not playing the way I should,” Curry said.

For a Game 1 of the NBA Finals, this should’ve been the punctuation on a Cleveland Cavaliers victory, the loser’s lament of a lost night for the Splash Brothers. Curry had been terrible – Klay Thompson, too – and yet the MVP’s momentary unleashing of angst had come in the final minutes of, yes, a 104-89 Warriors victory Thursday night.

For the Cavaliers, this had been beyond disconcerting. The Splash Brothers had missed 19 of 27 shots, and somehow the Cavaliers were still blown out of Oracle Arena. Precious opportunity had come and gone, and now the pressure rises for a Game 2 on Sunday that commands a Cavaliers victory – or a deep hole out of which to climb.

Shaun Livingston played out of his mind,” Thompson said.

Andre Iguodala had 12. Leandro Barbosa had 11. Out of nowhere, the Warriors' bench obliterated the Cavaliers and delivered a devastating defeat to start these NBA Finals. For the Cavs, this was a soft statement to start a hellacious championship fight.

“You don’t win championships without the entire squad coming in and making an impact on games,” Curry said.

This was a truth with which the Cavaliers had to live on Thursday night, a failed opportunity to prey upon the kind of performance seldom seen out of these Warriors superstars. Yes, Livingston was brilliant and Cleveland couldn’t answer him. All those years ago, he was a burgeoning star in the NBA – only to have his career threatened by a shattered leg. Slowly, surely, he fought his way back to the NBA – to a career – and now counts himself as one of the most invaluable bench players in basketball.

“Shaun’s a guy who has battled through much more than having to step up in a game,” Draymond Green said. “He’s been from the top to the bottom and back. When you go through so much in life and his career, it makes stepping up in the game easy.”

When Curry was missing shots – and turning the ball over five times – it was Livingston finding his spots on the floor and making shots. Midrange shots and drives to the rim. He was 8 of 10 and made everything seem so, so easy.

“We’re not used to having both Steph and Klay off like that with their shooting,” Warriors coach Steve Kerr said. Yet Golden State is so well-rounded, so rooted in the basics, so deep in talent, that it found a way to own Game 1. Golden State used Iguodala’s genius acumen to anchor a defense that contested the Cavaliers over and over. Across 86 victories – including a record 73 in the regular season – Golden State forever finds ways to grind out successes.

Now, Cleveland has to brace for the inevitability that Curry and Thompson will find themselves again, that they won’t be held down long in these Finals. This is Cleveland’s problem now, its regret: If it was ever going to steal one at Oracle Arena, Game 1 had been the blueprint.

Only, Cleveland was crushed and Golden State becomes buoyed with the belief that it beat the Eastern Conference champions using something that barely resembled the best the champs have to offer. These Finals have only begun, the Cavaliers with a real opportunity to still gain themselves home-court advantage before the series goes back East. Nevertheless, the Warriors have rarely left teams such an opening – such an opportunity – and they did with the Splash Brothers struggling so badly on Thursday night.

Steph Curry tossed his mouthpiece out of frustration, but his angst had been born out of his own personal failings in Game 1. The Warriors, they survived every one of the MVP’s missed shots, every one of his sloppy passes. Somehow, the Warriors survived the rarest of nights out of the Splash Brothers, out of the defending champions’ norm. A lost night for the Warriors’ superstars, a lost night for the Cleveland Cavaliers. It only gets harder now, only becomes a bigger burden on Sunday night.
 
Yea I haven't seen any post game interviews yet...I'm link them in a minute.

Youtube users can look up XINO PIERTO FINAL for all NBA Finals coverage. I watched all the interviews. Didnt see Bron trash HIS bench but he said their bench scoring 45 and CAVS 25 points given up off TO's " wasnt a recipe for winning on the road in the playoffs"
 
Just one game now the cavs gotta make adjustments. A few realities first. Lue ain't gonna out coach Ker, the cavs bench ain't gonna outplay the Warriors bench and curry and thompson ain't gonna both play this poorly again. So the cavs easier said than done, lbj needs to score 30 plus nightly love and Kyrie need to score 15 plus a piece and the bench needs at least 20. Still it's a bad sign curry and thompson played poorly and you still lose by 15 tho... Jeesh
 
True he's a prick but he does them both(privately and in public), TMov caught it so bad in practice last year it was a shame, from the stories I read.
I dont mind that shit in private. Its the public shit thats fucked up! Causes your team to play tight.
 
Youtube users can look up XINO PIERTO FINAL for all NBA Finals coverage. I watched all the interviews. Didnt see Bron trash HIS bench but he said their bench scoring 45 and CAVS 25 points given up off TO's " wasnt a recipe for winning on the road in the playoffs"


Yea they normally have most of the clips...
 
Just one game now the cavs gotta make adjustments. A few realities first. Lue ain't gonna out coach Ker, the cavs bench ain't gonna outplay the Warriors bench and curry and thompson ain't gonna both play this poorly again. So the cavs easier said than done, lbj needs to score 30 plus nightly love and Kyrie need to score 15 plus a piece and the bench needs at least 20. Still it's a bad sign curry and thompson played poorly and you still lose by 15 tho... Jeesh
To a lesser extent Finals LeBron 2016 may need to be Finals LeBron 2015 but thats going to be tough with the ball touching Kyries hands so much this year.... Its only one game, i do see the Cavs making it a series but you wont get a better combined game from the Cavs big 3 on the same night Curry and Klay are the 7th and 8th best players on the court for GS... If there was ever a game to steal it was this one...
 
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