Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?

So is it explained why the white walkers want ter and bran dead?

would it make sense because they're the ones who can go back, warn and stop them?

Since the children of the forest created them, shouldn't they know everything about them, including how to destroy them???

Why havent they told Bran all of this already???
 
Since the children of the forest created them, shouldn't they know everything about them, including how to destroy them???

Why havent they told Bran all of this already???

I see it as a Dr Frankenstein scenario. When you're tampering with creation and life you're playing with fire.

The WW did fight men and then they decided to take over. The tree the Nights King was made under was sunny and green, but when Bran went there again it was frozen... I think that was the same tree the TER was in.

WW are responsible for the long night and the unpredictable seasons. They are winter and winter has always symbolized DEATH
 
I see it as a Dr Frankenstein scenario. When you're tampering with creation and life you're playing with fire.

The WW did fight men and then they decided to take over. The tree the Nights King was made under was sunny and green, but when Bran went there again it was frozen... I think that was the same tree the TER was in.

WW are responsible for the long night and the unpredictable seasons. They are winter and winter has always symbolized DEATH

It brings into question if the North was always the North.
 
What do you mean?

Time loop simplified is, all of this stuff has already happened. The timeline has been completed but we lack the perspective to see all of it at once, like time is meant to be judged.
We see it from the perspective of now and going forward.
Now, present, future stuff, future, past stuff is the past obviously. That's the only way that WE can view it. With the introduction of time travel Bran's future self could affect things we don't even know yet because we can't view the entire timeline

What happened to Hodor in our limited view, happened this past weekend, which affected hodor that far in the past. We only knew hodor as being able to say only that for an unknown reason that doesn't make sense because we are unable to view the entire timeline.

think of it like time is a new book that's already done but you can't skip ahead and read all the chapters or look at the whole thing in its entire view. The only way to get through the book is page by page, you can go back and look at what you read but you can't go forward until you read a page. you can't go to page 20 unless you've read pages 1-19 that's how WE and everyone on the show is living when in fact its already done. With what bran is doing HE might be able to just grab the book of life, skip ahead and see how it ends and then go back and try to affect things to make a different outcome.

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Time loop simplified is, all of this stuff has already happened. The timeline has been completed but we lack the perspective to see all of it at once, like time is meant to be judged.
We see it from the perspective of now and going forward.
Now, present, future stuff, future, past stuff is the past obviously. That's the only way that WE can view it. With the introduction of time travel Bran's future self could affect things we don't even know yet because we can't view the entire timeline

What happened to Hodor in our limited view, happened this past weekend, which affected hodor that far in the past. We only knew hodor as being able to say only that for an unknown reason that doesn't make sense because we are unable to view the entire timeline.

think of it like time is a new book that's already done but you can't skip ahead and read all the chapters or look at the whole thing in its entire view. The only way to get through the book is page by page, you can go back and look at what you read but you can't go forward until you read a page. you can't go to page 20 unless you've read pages 1-19 that's how WE and everyone on the show is living when in fact its already done. With what bran is doing HE might be able to just grab the book of life, skip ahead and see how it ends and then go back and try to affect things to make a different outcome.

hope you still follow me

I think i do, but if the book is already written, so to speak, Bran shouldnt be able to change the "future". The question of if he can change the past is still not settled. However, i do think that we just got proof that the TER can see the future.
 
I think i do, but if the book is already written, so to speak, Bran shouldnt be able to change the "future". The question of if he can change the past is still not settled. However, i do think that we just got proof that the TER can see the future.

I think the fact that HODOR has been saying "Hodor" since before bran's birth proves than Bran can't change the past or future.

All time is linear for the individual. Wyliss had no idea who Bran was when he had his "Hodor" seizure

The TER could see all the events of the past and could do nothing to change them. He knew Bran was gonna Hodor Wyliss and he knew the WW were going to kill him.

Remember how he told Bran he wouldn't be in the tree cave for very long ? He knew because he can't alter anything ...neither can Bran; the ink is already dry
 
I think i do, but if the book is already written, so to speak, Bran shouldnt be able to change the "future". The question of if he can change the past is still not settled. However, i do think that we just got proof that the TER can see the future.
I think the fact that HODOR has been saying "Hodor" since before bran's birth proves than Bran can't change the past or future.

All time is linear for the individual. Wyliss had no idea who Bran was when he had his "Hodor" seizure

The TER could see all the events of the past and could do nothing to change them. He knew Bran was gonna Hodor Wyliss and he knew the WW were going to kill him.

Remember how he told Bran he wouldn't be in the tree cave for very long ? He knew because he can't alter anything ...neither can Bran; the ink is already dry

right. hence "closed loop"

it won't stop him from trying though.... which is actually him just fulfilling what was going to happen anyway.
 
right. hence "closed loop"

it won't stop him from trying though.... which is actually him just fulfilling what was going to happen anyway.

^^^EXACTLY

He'll never realize his attempts are moot. Because they're supposed to happen.

The only thing he could do to make change is quit greenseeing and warging altogether and kill himself
 
I think the fact that HODOR has been saying "Hodor" since before bran's birth proves than Bran can't change the past or future.

All time is linear for the individual. Wyliss had no idea who Bran was when he had his "Hodor" seizure

The TER could see all the events of the past and could do nothing to change them. He knew Bran was gonna Hodor Wyliss and he knew the WW were going to kill him.

Remember how he told Bran he wouldn't be in the tree cave for very long ? He knew because he can't alter anything ...neither can Bran; the ink is already dry

I think that Bran, with his incomplete training and not being ready yet for that role, will try to change the past.
 
^^^EXACTLY

He'll never realize his attempts are moot. Because they're supposed to happen.

The only thing he could do to make change is quit greenseeing and warging altogether and kill himself

And even then, that might be what he's supposed to do. Until he can communicate with his future self he won't know. He'll have to see himself in the future, his future self tell him what to do and either do the opposite or do nothing at all and even then its just a never ending cycle of no matter what he does or doesn't do, is supposed to happen.

cannot fight it.
 
Are there any children of the forest left or were they the last ones?

Yep they up in the treehouse making cookies ....

I dunno

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Pretty close guess to the Hodor origin way back in 2008. Those cats on westeros.org probably have every possible theory fully mapped out to possible outcomes by now.
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Do you think bran is the one who planted the winters coming line in his papa's head?

Nope ...the Starks are of the First Men. The first men went to war against the COF and then went to war with the COF against the WW.

They even built the wall together to keep the WW at bay. The wall was built by Bran the builder (who started house stark) with magic from the COF. Winter is coming is a metaphor for the WW are always there and a threat... be ready.

I doubt Bran is going back thousands of years to affect the age of heroes
 
right. hence "closed loop"

it won't stop him from trying though.... which is actually him just fulfilling what was going to happen anyway.
^^^EXACTLY

He'll never realize his attempts are moot. Because they're supposed to happen.

The only thing he could do to make change is quit greenseeing and warging altogether and kill himself
Was i the only one to think the 3 eyed Raven was actually him in the future (before reading his backstory and long history)?
 
Pretty close guess to the Hodor origin way back in 2008. Those cats on westeros.org probably have every possible theory fully mapped out to possible outcomes by now.
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What about the thousands of other theories they have that never came through? Eventually someone will guess the correct theory
 
Was i the only one to think the 3 eyed Raven was actually him in the future (before reading his backstory and long history)?

I thought it was him like an episode ago when he was showing family history and shit. Unless im missing something none of that would prepare him for shit right? the origin of the white walkers would but it looked like they were just looking at his family in happier times and shit. like he was doing it too knowing he was going to die.
 
I thought it was him like an episode ago when he was showing family history and shit. Unless im missing something none of that would prepare him for shit right? the origin of the white walkers would but it looked like they were just looking at his family in happier times and shit. like he was doing it too knowing he was going to die.
There wasn't enough time for him to learn he entire human history.
 
if you have limited time then there's no time to walk down memory lane if there's no point to it either right? lol
1st trip should've been the origin and then everything after, how to kill them

we watching young ned slap box and hodor tend to horses then taking breaks and shit for the day
I remember being a CNA and being on orientation. I remember at one place they wanted me to take an assignment on my first day of training. I left that place by 730.

That old guy was a jerk. Didn't teach him anything, put him in a terrible spot, and then told him peace to the gods.
 
I remember being a CNA and being on orientation. I remember at one place they wanted me to take an assignment on my first day of training. I left that place by 730.

That old guy was a jerk. Didn't teach him anything, put him in a terrible spot, and then told him peace to the gods.

And if ter is bran then he stayed true to himself to the end
Him being a jerk is why hes paralyzed right now.
He could've totally not climbed the side of a castle to watch them fuck
 
And if ter is bran then he stayed true to himself to the end
Him being a jerk is why hes paralyzed right now.
He could've totally not climbed the side of a castle to watch them fuck
I don't think he claimed the wall intentionally to see them. They just happened to be there. I will take a child's inquisitive nature over incestual affections any day.
 
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