All the Democrat bashing on this board needs to stop.

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1 if not 3 Supreme Court justices appointed by next president. This is the single most important reason a Democrat needs to be elected.

Now...there are a lot of intelligent people on here that understand this. I know you can voice your displeasure with the Democrat party and still vote for them come November. However there are a lot of stupid people and I feel all the bashing will encourage them not to vote.

Remember!
Scalia and the republican Supreme Court ruled racism is over.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/racism-isnt-dead_n_5232080.html
Scalia and the republican Supreme Court taking away voting rights
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/spencer-overton/justice-scalias-latest-ra_b_3103845.html
Scalia and the republican Supreme Court just doomed us on climate change. If you have kids you better give a fuck.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/11/opinion/the-court-blocks-efforts-to-slow-climate-change.html
Scalia and the republican Supreme Court doomed our democracy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-winkler/corporations-are-people-a_b_5543833.html

This is a short list of how detrimental the republican Supreme Court has been. We need every vote to change this! So please for all our futures stop bashing democrats. I know they are bad but they aren't The Emperor evil like the republicans.
 
Thing is, I've never experienced so many dumb poor ass Republicans. They scream that shit yet barely able to pay bills and yet they Republican. And on a porn board pushing that dumb shit.:rolleyes2:
 
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Who bashes democrats on this forum?

No one really bashes them but any mention or discussion of us using our vote to get real change or action for us as black people is looked at like slaves threatening to leave the Plantation.

Kinda like when folk talk about unionizing you have those scared of losing what they have, but give no thought to what they can gain or how it will better protect their interest.
 
Anybody on this board not voting one way or another because of what public opinion is on this board is a god damn simpleton.
 
If you don't understand racism, what it is and how it works, then everything else will only confuse you.

Fuck the Democrats AND Republicans!

Fuck outta here cryin bout some goddamn Democrats, negro please.


Lol ya all going full retard.

Keep thinking this way and this won't even be a discussion anymore.

Thanks in advance for allowing those racist to advance their agenda.
 
Ninjas like to complain but somehow expect someone to listen to their grievance without even wielding the only power they have (voting). People say Obama let us down or fuck the Democrats but we didn't vote in 2010 or 2014. Once again - being proud about not voting is the most ignorant shit I have heard.
 
Ninjas like to complain but somehow expect someone to listen to their grievance without even wielding the only power they have (voting). People say Obama let us down or fuck the Democrats but we didn't vote in 2010 or 2014. Once again - being proud about not voting is the most ignorant shit I have heard.

How can somethat doesn't vote complain? This ignorance is made even worse because the main perpetrators of the ignorance think they're dropping knowledge so deep that the masses don't understand when actually they're just ignorant.
 
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People aren't bashing them. We just call them out for their bullshit. For years, we been automatically voting for them and getting fucked over. The republicans are so blatant with their shit that we let democrats get away with murder.

Yes, there are stupid people voting(or not voting), but it's up to us to steer them in the right direction. There's nothing wrong with saying this is about the lesser of two evils.
 
Lol ya all going full retard.

Keep thinking this way and this won't even be a discussion anymore.

Thanks in advance for allowing those racist to advance their agenda.

I'm feeling like Morpheus trying to free retarded people myself. But do you, continue to give up your power and be a slave to this system.

ILLUSION OF INCLUSION.

"I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves." - Harriet Tubman
 
How can somethat doesn't vote complain? This ignorance is made even worse because the main perpetrators of the ignorance think they're dropping knowledge so deep that the masses don't understand when actually they're just ignorant.[/QUOTE]

I'm feeling like Morpheus trying to free retarded people myself. But do you, continue to give up your power and be a slave to this system.

ILLUSION OF INCLUSION.

"I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves." - Harriet Tubman


Like clockwork.
 
Ad hominem attacks? YES.

Substative Logical Rebuttals? NOPE.

:cmonson:

It was pointed out in this thread how the "I don't vote" contingent and the "Both parties are the same" contingent staying home delivered a Republican congress. The same congress that then turned around and enacted rules around the country making it harder to vote for primarily black communities. They have been rolling back programs that help black people around the country AND gerrymandered the maps to make it harder than ever for them to be voted out of power.

You didn't listen then. Why would you listen now? But ok. I'll repeat it.

You can now go ahead and ignore it again.
 
I'm feeling like Morpheus trying to free retarded people myself. But do you, continue to give up your power and be a slave to this system.

ILLUSION OF INCLUSION.

"I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves." - Harriet Tubman


The Greek God or The Movie Character ?

you quote Ms Tubman but you also realize that she was politically active right.

Understand even if you are on the sidelines you have more impact than if you are in the parking lot.
 
[Rant] I was told that I was "ruining our chance" (amoung other things) on this board when I questioned the authenticity of president Obama and his campaign in 2008. " I was like, ruin what chance"? :lol: we aren't running for office on BGOL, at least I'm assuming no one is. :lol:.

I was one of the many that was called coon questioning various political motivations. I've questioned every president I've voted for, I definitely wasn't going to stop thinking for myself because of the skin color of the candidate is similar to mine.

It's better to present facts or your own perspective on politics sure, but telling people what to say on this board is un democratic in its truest sense (at least I think), tacky and un patriotic! :obama:

And if I someone just so happens to not vote this time that makes one stupid? Groupthink much? A lot of people that don't vote (I know a few) think that people that do are stupid as well. Thinking people are stupid solves nothing, but only further alienates your audience. [Rant/]

Edit: that being said I appreciate the information in your post.
 
[Rant] I was told that I was "ruining our chance" (amoung other things) on this board when I questioned the authenticity of president Obama and his campaign in 2008. " I was like, ruin what chance"? :lol: we aren't running for office on BGOL, at least I'm assuming no one is. :lol:.

I was one of the many that was called coon questioning various political motivations. I've questioned every president I've voted for, I definitely wasn't going to stop thinking for myself because of the skin color of the candidate is similar to mine.

It's better to present facts or your own perspective on politics sure, but telling people what to say on this board is un democratic in its truest sense (at least I think), tacky and un patriotic! :obama:

And if I someone just so happens to not vote this time that makes one stupid? Groupthink much? A lot of people that don't vote (I know a few) think that people that do are stupid as well. Thinking people are stupid solves nothing, but only further alienates your audience. [Rant/]

Edit: that being said I appreciate the information in your post.

  1. Respect your opinion - but it's the twilight zone when voting in a presidential election is deemed "stupid." Who you vote for (maybe voting straight democrat or republican without looking at the candidates is stupid...but voting period?) I dunno brotha, I don't think both arguments are equal to each other.
 
DNC needs to be united real soon. Republicans are seriously violating the Constitution by trying to delay any confirmations until November.
 
No one really bashes them but any mention or discussion of us using our vote to get real change or action for us as black people is looked at like slaves threatening to leave the Plantation.

Kinda like when folk talk about unionizing you have those scared of losing what they have, but give no thought to what they can gain or how it will better protect their interest.

I've been asking for a list of actions wanted by the black community for 8 years and have yet to get one. The mere mention of this list is met with stonewalling and vitriol. Maybe you can end this today....maybe.
 
Justice Antonin Scalia was a Racist Bigot

By Chuck Hobbs, Esq.
February 14, 2016


Yesterday, United States Supreme Court (SCOTUS) Justice Antonin Scalia died at the age of 79. While the encomiums heralding his life have flowed from political friends and foes alike over the past 24 hours---including President Barack Obama---I would be remiss if I did not strongly state what the President and presidential contenders cannot; Scalia was a racist and sexist bigot of the worst sort---period!

As a writer and a lawyer, I concede that Scalia’s pen was potent and often added an element of grandiloquence to lower life form thinking that promotes racial, sexual and religious bigotry. As the following excerpts will show, the only difference between Scalia and other white bigoted curmudgeons, the ones who are flocking to Donald Trump’s campaign in droves, is that Scalia had an above-average vocabulary.

Now, Scalia’s voice is forever silenced and his pen is forever sheathed; as he belongs to the ages, the parsing of his legacy belongs to those among the living. As such, to make my case against Scalia’s rank bigotry, let us consider the following:

“Justice” Scalia on “Slow Track” Blacks

Affirmative Action has vexed the SCOTUS since the Bakke vs California decision thrust the practice into the public square in 1978; in the time since, two cases, Grutter vs Bollinger and Fisher vs Texas, have all but sent the signal that Affirmative Action will not last another generation. That is due in large part because of the conservative tilt of the Court and yes, Scalia, who drew the ire of Blacks this past December during oral arguments in the Fisher case where he suggested that Black students may be better off going to “a slower-track school where they do well” than to go to a highly selective college, like the University of Texas, through some form of racial preference.” Scalia added “I’m just not impressed by the fact that the University of Texas may have fewer (Blacks). Maybe it ought to…”

Through his rhetorical questions, Scalia besmirched the legacies of the nation’s HBCUs that have provided many of the most famous Black scientists of the past 100 years who have changed the way the world worked, like Fisk University and Howard University Professor Percy Julian, PhD, a famous chemist whose patents revolutionized cortisone treatments; Tuskegee University Professor George Washington Carver, a famous botanist and inventor who helped revolutionize agriculture; renowned Morehouse College alums Dr. Sam Nabrit, the first Black to be appointed the Atomic Energy Commission; Dr. Louis Sullivan, Secretary of Health and Human Services under President George H.W. Bush and Drs. David Satcher and Henry Foster, former surgeons general and with respect to Satcher, former Director of the Centers for Disease Control.

To let Scalia tell it, these men and hundreds of thousands of Black men and women like them who matriculated at or taught and researched the sciences at HBCUs were “slow-track.” Scalia, like many men his age, simply had no need to educate himself first about Black achievements because his skin privilege prevented him from seeing the world as anything but one where Black equals “less”

“Justice” Scalia on “Justice for Troy Davis”

Remember Troy Davis? Davis was a Black man from Savannah, Georgia who was sentenced to death for allegedly killing a White police officer in 1989 despite still lingering concerns that his conviction was rigged by prosecutors.

Lest we forget that Scalia was opposed to Davis having further opportunities to prove his innocence, writing in dissent of a rare Supreme Court Order for a lower court judge to consider the facts that “This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent…quite to the contrary, we have repeatedly left that question unresolved, while expressing considerable doubt that any claim based on alleged 'actual innocence' is constitutionally cognizable."

Davis later exhausted all avenues for further appeals and was executed in 2011.

“Justice” Scalia on women and the fight for gender equality


In his dissenting opinion in U.S. vs. Virginia, Scalia indicated that he did not believe that the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment provided specific protection for women, averring “The only issue is whether it (14th Amendment) prohibits it. It doesn't. Nobody ever thought that that's what it meant. Nobody ever voted for that. If the current society wants to outlaw discrimination by sex, hey we have things called legislatures, and they enact things called laws.”

“Justice” Scalia on Gay and Lesbian rights

In his dissenting opinion in Lawrence vs. Texas, Scalia fired off that: “It is clear from this that the court has taken sides in the culture war, and in particular in that battle of the culture war that concerns whether there should be any moral opprobrium attached to homosexual conduct."

Not done, Scalia added “Of course, it is our moral heritage that one should not hate any human being or class of human beings. But I had thought that one could consider certain conduct reprehensible — murder, for example, or polygamy, or cruelty to animals — and could exhibit even 'animus' toward such conduct…If we cannot have moral feelings against homosexuality, can we have it against murder? Can we have it against other things?"

Yes, you read correctly---Scalia compared moral feelings about homosexuality to moral feelings about murder.

“Justice” Scalia on Immigration


During the politically caustic 2012 election year battle between President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, the SCOTUS invalidated sections of the controversial Arizona S.B. 1070, one that would have given law enforcement in that state wide latitude to profile potential illegal immigrants and to charge those without proper legal papers with misdemeanor offenses.

Scalia’s disturbing dissent included the following: "In the first 100 years of the Republic, the States enacted numerous laws restricting the immigration of certain classes of aliens, including convicted criminals, indigents, persons with contagious diseases, and (in Southern States) freed blacks…state laws not only provided for the removal of unwanted immigrants but also imposed penalties on unlawfully present aliens and those who aided their immigration," Scalia argued.

“Justice” Scalia on Black voter suppression

I was a very young lawyer when the 2000 election controversy between George W. Bush and Al Gore erupted. With my practice based in Tallahassee, I spent many of my free hours watching the legal proceedings on the trial court level where Gore’s lawyers sought an accurate recount, proceedings that would be decided first in the Florida Supreme Court and ultimately, in the SCOTUS.

Nota Bene---from 1999 to 2000, approximately 54,000 Florida residents were purged from voter rolls as convicted felons---54 percent of this number were Black voters. The NAACP and many progressive organizations argued that many of those who were purged were done so in error. Second, it is critical to remind that the South Florida counties most impacted by voting shenanigans and irregularities were heavily Democratic---and heavily populated by racial minority voters.

Nonetheless, when considering Bush vs Gore in retrospect during a 2008 interview on the CBS news show 60 Minutes, Scalia dismissively replied “Get over it…”

But it is difficult to get over Scalia’s words at the time; in his concurring opinion to halt the Florida recount, Scalia averred “It suffices to say that the issuance of the stay suggests that a majority of the Court, while not deciding the issues presented, believe that the petitioner has a substantial probability of success. The issue is not, as the dissent puts it, whether ‘counting every legally cast vote can constitute irreparable harm.’ One of the principal issues in the appeal we have accepted is precisely whether the votes that have been ordered to be counted are, under a reasonable interpretation of Florida law, ‘legally cast vote(s).’ The counting of votes that are of questionable legality does in my view threaten irreparable harm to petitioner Bush, and to the country, by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election.”

16 years later, folks, there remains a strong likelihood that Al Gore won the 2000 election. But thanks to voter suppression efforts that have become even more pronounced in the time since---and the decision by Scalia et al to halt the recount, we now must live with the disaster that was Bush 43’s presidency.

As one who spares no quarter for powerful racists whose decisions impact people who look, pray or think as I do, I refuse to mourn Scalia’s death. I did not break out with “Ding-Dong the wicked With (or Warlock) is Dead” like the Emerald City Munchkins in the Wizard of Oz. But when I heard the news, my mind-set was actually more akin to one of my favorite quips from the 90s hit cartoon Beavis and Butthead, where Butthead, believing his pal Beavis to be dead, eulogizes him by simply saying “we have not come here to bury Beavis, but, uh, later dude…”

Levity aside, I shan’t shed a tear for Scalia because I have this habit of not crying for bigots who are unabashed in their bigotry. History will ultimately judge his legacy, and I believe that his will be relegated to the Racist/Bigot Hall of Fame like so many who codified intolerance from the bench like Justice Roger Taney in the Dred Scott decision that held that “the Black man had no rights that whites were bound to respect.” Or the majority in the Plessy vs. Ferguson decision that upheld Jim Crow laws that usurped Black Constitutional rights. The Dred Scott and Plessy decisions were not the only ones in which America’s penchant for potent legal racism was upheld by men who often are lauded as a pantheon of the enlightened; the truth is that when the light is often dim among many powerful justices of the SCOTUS because many men and of late, women, who take the Black robes to consider cases and controversies before it, are wholly incapable of checking their own life’s experiences, biases, and whims at the door. Scalia was no different and the determination of whether he was a legal revolutionary or rapscallion rests in the subjective eyes of the beholder.

This belongs here too.

Thanks Hotlantan
 
It was pointed out in this thread how the "I don't vote" contingent and the "Both parties are the same" contingent staying home delivered a Republican congress. The same congress that then turned around and enacted rules around the country making it harder to vote for primarily black communities. They have been rolling back programs that help black people around the country AND gerrymandered the maps to make it harder than ever for them to be voted out of power.

:bravo:
 
Democrats bash each other.. Today it's a bad thing to primary who they select as the front runner or in the case of Obama the incumbent .

Sanders said Obama should be primaried in order to force him back to the left but Hillary is using that as a talking point. The pathetic thing is she is doing that because she knows that some will not support Obama because they take that as some sort of traitor shit.

And the DNC itself is full of shit trying to determine which of their own candidates succeeds instead of supporting them all equally and letting their voters choose the best one.
 
I've been asking for a list of actions wanted by the black community for 8 years and have yet to get one. The mere mention of this list is met with stonewalling and vitriol. Maybe you can end this today....maybe.

It won't end fam.

I've asked the same thing as well. No one ver comes up with anything - for a while the come back was always the crack vs powder cocaine sentencing. When the President changed that, it was never brought up again. And even though, it was considered one of the top reasons for attacking him, after changing it, those same dudes don't give him any credit for changing it.
 
Democrats bash each other.. Today it's a bad thing to primary who they select as the front runner or in the case of Obama the incumbent .

Sanders said Obama should be primaried in order to force him back to the left but Hillary is using that as a talking point. The pathetic thing is she is doing that because she knows that some will not support Obama because they take that as some sort of traitor shit.

And the DNC itself is full of shit trying to determine which of their own candidates succeeds instead of supporting them all equally and letting their voters choose the best one.

The DNC knows Bernie can't win a general. They lived through Mondale and Dukakis and don't want to go through it again. Progressives act like there has never been a progressive nominee before. There have. And they were some of the biggest blowouts in presidential history. Mondale lost 49 states to 1.

And Dems need to understand that pulling Hillary to the left SEVERELY hurts her in the General. Dems have made hay the last 8 years watching Republican tea party people pull their candidates far right to win a primary then bashing the fuck out of them with their words in the general. Because, believe it or not... And I know you don't. But. Believe it or not..

Most of the people in the country are NOT on the far left or right. They just aren't.

So by making Hillary go far left to secure the nomination, you make it hard as hell for her to tack back to the middle to win in the General. Dems watched the Republicans blow themselves up for eight years and fuck if they didn't decide to blow themselves the fuck up to.
 
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Not forcing change is a huge part of this issue...

The defeatist attitude is what allows the lesser of 2 evils to remain Stat quo.

Voting in force is the only way to make change... same thinking keeps us from legal gun ownership, starting business, going to school and many other


People aren't bashing them. We just call them out for their bullshit. For years, we been automatically voting for them and getting fucked over. The republicans are so blatant with their shit that we let democrats get away with murder.

Yes, there are stupid people voting(or not voting), but it's up to us to steer them in the right direction. There's nothing wrong with saying this is about the lesser of two evils.
 
The DNC knows Bernie can't win a general. They lived through Mondale and Dukakis and don't want to go through it again. Progressives act like there has never been a progressive nominee before. There have. And they were some of the biggest blowouts in presidential history. Mondale lost 49 states to 1.

And Dems need to understand that pulling Hillary to the left SEVERELY hurts her in the General. Dems have made hay the last 8 years watching Republican tea party people pull their candidates far right to win a primary then bashing the fuck out of them with their words in the general. Because, believe it or not... And I know you don't. But. Believe it or not..

Most of the people in the country are NOT on the far left or right. They just aren't.

So by making Hillary go far left to secure the nomination, you make it hard as hell for her to tack back to the middle to win in the General. Dems watched the Republicans blow themselves up for eight years and fuck if they didn't decide to blow themselves the fuck up to.

They have only beaten the GOP in the presidential general... They have beaten the shit out of the dems in congress and in the states. They have forced the dems to the right and almost neutered them when it comes to all things in this country.

The dems have lost their identity and govern more right than left and that goes back to Clinton.

The Tea Party carries a bigger stick than the dems. Reid allowed them to keep his bitch ass from changing the filibuster rules and getting rid of that super majority bullshit that allows the minority party to obstruct.

Hillary is already more right than left and a war hawk. People say how much better she is than any GOP running is to be seen.

And thinking you know that Sanders can't win is also some propaganda. Who says he can't win ? Damn sure ain't the polls. And to think that Sanders would do some damage to her during the primary is plain stupid. She has a record and the GOP already knows everything there is to know about her going back to Arkansas.

Saying there has never been a progressive nominee means little since not to long ago there had never been a black nominee and although FDR didn't start as a progressive he damn sure ended as one.

Who picked Hillary ? And now she is the savoir ? The only one who can possible uphold the status quo ?

Is the status quo good enough ?

Turnout determines who wins the presidential general election . GOP has only won when Dems don't show up
 
Not forcing change is a huge part of this issue...

The defeatist attitude is what allows the lesser of 2 evils to remain Stat quo.

Voting in force is the only way to make change... same thinking keeps us from legal gun ownership, starting business, going to school and many other

Exactly and it's the dems trying to convince their voters that change is bad.

The same shit they are pulling on Sanders won't be said in a few years if Warren runs unless there is another in their hierarchy running.
 
They have only beaten the GOP in the presidential general... They have beaten the shit out of the dems in congress and in the states. They have forced the dems to the right and almost neutered them when it comes to all things in this country.

The dems have lost their identity and govern more right than left and that goes back to Clinton.

The Tea Party carries a bigger stick than the dems. Reid allowed them to keep his bitch ass from changing the filibuster rules and getting rid of that super majority bullshit that allows the minority party to obstruct.

Hillary is already more right than left and a war hawk. People say how much better she is than any GOP running is to be seen.

And thinking you know that Sanders can't win is also some propaganda. Who says he can't win ? Damn sure ain't the polls. And to think that Sanders would do some damage to her during the primary is plain stupid. She has a record and the GOP already knows everything there is to know about her going back to Arkansas.

Saying there has never been a progressive nominee means little since not to long ago there had never been a black nominee and although FDR didn't start as a progressive he damn sure ended as one.

Who picked Hillary ? And now she is the savoir ? The only one who can possible uphold the status quo ?

Is the status quo good enough ?

Turnout determines who wins the presidential general election . GOP has only won when Dems don't show up

Hillary isn't the saviour. But she actually has a chance. Bernie has spent a lifetime saying things you can't say if you plan to win a general election.

Are you saying that most of the people in this country are far left? Please answer.

And please also show me the last President that campaigned on raising taxes that won. I await your response.
 
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