Blatt Fired!

It made sense to trade Wiggins

Some of you seem to forget that Love was a 20 and 10 player who could stretch the floor. What Bosh had to grow in to. The problem is Love obviously doesn't have the mental make up for that role. He was a 40% three point shooter as a 4/5.

Wiggins plays Lebron's position, because the hell if you want Wiggin's as a 2, since he can't really shoot. The defense would just back off Kyrie, Wiggins and Lebron and allow them to shoot and not get in the lane.

stop making sense, faggit

bgol swears the cavs would have a chip if they kept wiggins and i never bought that bullshit
 
ORRRR

you could wait a few weeks after all the sensationalist rhetoric has passed and make a likely more informed response. You are essentially going on reports by people...some of whom have agendas.

Over half of these motherfuckers writing stories didnt even like Blatt and were on record saying that he was out of his depth.....but all of a sudden Lebron is a problem and wont listen when the Cavs GM Griffin said Lebron wasnt even consulted on the decision to fire him

As for Miami and Riley and all else....well if they had the magical secret sauce why cant they get it right over the last two seasons....Lebron and Bosh didnt go to Miami because of Riley...they went because of their friendship with Wade

Basketball schooled? What the fuck does that even mean
First off: LeBron, you are NOT a three point shooter. You're better than Rodman, yes. But you are a career - CAREER 34% three point shooter, and that's even including career high marks of 36.2%, 40.6%, and 37.9% your final 3 years in Miami. Yes, you make them occasionally, now you're shooting 30%, but that's not your shot. Stop taking it so often.

Secondly: This dribble the ball until 5 seconds before the clock expires thing you've been doing since high school. STOP...IT!

Third: For the sake of all that is Holy in heaven, practice your free throws. You are a career 74% free throw shooter. The past two seasons you are shooting 71% That's unacceptable. Jordan's WORST season was 78.4, and that was his absolute worst, and one of only two season in 15 below 80%. Fix it.
 
Dudes forgot what Love was. People just thought Bosh was sort of catty when he mentioned playing with Lebron, but he turned out to be right.

That and Love not being strong enough mentally to handle not being the man anymore. A better coach would say, we're going to give it to Love for a few post ups to keep him happy every once in a while.

When the Cavs were built, they were supposed to be a better Miami. Love was a better shooting Bosh. Irving was a younger point guard who was a natural point, who didn't conflict with Lebron in position. Wade did at first, because both were used to playing a lot of iso ball. Brittle was supposed to take the responsibility away from Lebron as he got older. All that was around them was better than the Birdmans and Haslem's.

The Cavs aren't really a flawed team to me. They just have a couple of bad contracts and a couple of streaky players. Those same streaky players could help Lebron get a ring on the right week.

The issue was coaching. Blatt was scared of Lebron, and Lebron needs coaching. Their offense shouldn't look so bad with their talent. They should be blowing out teams like the Spurs and Warriors so Lebron and Brittle Irving can sit in the fourth.

The shit should have happen at the end of last season. The players weren't going to respect him over the summer.
 
Where you been the last 18 or so months? You know, when Cleveland had Wiggins -- a future superstar -- and had to trade him. I wonder who wanted that? Lebron got his man. Were you here for Lebron STARTING that TT bullshit? Making sure the Cavs had to overpay him BEFORE he decided to STFU. By then, the damage had been done. What about all the times last year and this year where people asked .. :confused: "what happened to Blatt's ball movement offense?" It never got ran. How about when he straight took over the point guard role without Blatt cosigning it early last year? Blatt isn't even getting his timeout plays run.

And if Cavs think Lebron is going to listen to Lue, the front office --other than Lebron-- all need to be drug tested. This just tells me we are guaranteed to see more 'ball pounding' offense when it matters most. I knew Blatt had to go. No respect from 'the man,' but I thought they bring in a Riley type to keep Lebron in check. It didn't matter why Lebron went to Miami. All that mattered was Riley was the boss. Cleveland needs that.

As someone who paid close attention to this shit last time, this seems to be history repeating itself with a more talented team. Lebron might be able to still bring a championship to Cleveland this season IF the team remains healthy and he goes all godmode during the finals. But it would have to be a performance for the ages to beat either GS or SA. And Love and Irving will have to show up.



I actually think it will work, shit Blatt had it working. The team is good enough to make it happen no matter who's the coach.

I'm very curious to the what the Love/Blatt situation was about. Seem like Love would be idea for his scheme with the passing. Guess they just didn't mesh.

Wonder what Tmo is thinking. Read somewhere, Lebron was really hard on dude. Lebron said he would change his approach(stop ragging him) towards TMo because he wasn't responding well, figured he needed to ease off dude.
 
I was listening to Windhourst, whatever the fat Jonah Hill looking dude on ESPN's name is

and he was saying Blatt was like Popovich in Israel in what was thought of him as a coach. That when he came here he expected to be respected. He thought he was more known than he was. Instead the players had no clue who he was. They were like whatever muthafucka, did you play in the NBA? Did you coach in the NBA?

He was crushed from jump.
 
I was listening to Windhourst, whatever the fat Jonah Hill looking dude on ESPN's name is

and he was saying Blatt was like Popovich in Israel in what was thought of him as a coach. That when he came here he expected to be respected. He thought he was more known than he was. Instead the players had no clue who he was. They were like whatever muthafucka, did you play in the NBA? Did you coach in the NBA?

He was crushed from jump.

Not being able to implement the Princeton offense, Calling time outs when he had done and having Lebron in bounds the ball didn't help either.
 
Dudes forgot what Love was. People just thought Bosh was sort of catty when he mentioned playing with Lebron, but he turned out to be right.

That and Love not being strong enough mentally to handle not being the man anymore. A better coach would say, we're going to give it to Love for a few post ups to keep him happy every once in a while.

When the Cavs were built, they were supposed to be a better Miami. Love was a better shooting Bosh. Irving was a younger point guard who was a natural point, who didn't conflict with Lebron in position. Wade did at first, because both were used to playing a lot of iso ball. Brittle was supposed to take the responsibility away from Lebron as he got older. All that was around them was better than the Birdmans and Haslem's.

The Cavs aren't really a flawed team to me. They just have a couple of bad contracts and a couple of streaky players. Those same streaky players could help Lebron get a ring on the right week.

The issue was coaching. Blatt was scared of Lebron, and Lebron needs coaching. Their offense shouldn't look so bad with their talent. They should be blowing out teams like the Spurs and Warriors so Lebron and Brittle Irving can sit in the fourth.

The shit should have happen at the end of last season. The players weren't going to respect him over the summer.


After games if 17 & 18, 16 & 18 Kevin Love was asked what happen, he said Kyrie changed a few doings.
Guess he meant the focus was on getting him the ball in different spots.
 
interesting how the coaching fraternity hasn't JUMPED to his defense?


Shit they understood that situation

Dude looked confused here...
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It made sense to trade Wiggins

Some of you seem to forget that Love was a 20 and 10 player who could stretch the floor. What Bosh had to grow in to. The problem is Love obviously doesn't have the mental make up for that role. He was a 40% three point shooter as a 4/5.

Wiggins plays Lebron's position, because the hell if you want Wiggin's as a 2, since he can't really shoot. The defense would just back off Kyrie, Wiggins and Lebron and allow them to shoot and not get in the lane.

Fam stop Wiggins could play the 2

Irving
Wiggins
Bron
Thompson
Mosgov

Live was always a defensive liability even in Minn
 
What people aren't talking about is Wiggins would have been on a rookie contract. Kevin Loves' money (21M a year) could have been used on multiple players.

Like that perspective but Wiggins is also on a rookie learning curve. Kyrie just got out of that. Gotta strike while the iron is hot.
 
First off: LeBron, you are NOT a three point shooter. You're better than Rodman, yes. But you are a career - CAREER 34% three point shooter, and that's even including career high marks of 36.2%, 40.6%, and 37.9% your final 3 years in Miami. Yes, you make them occasionally, now you're shooting 30%, but that's not your shot. Stop taking it so often.

Secondly: This dribble the ball until 5 seconds before the clock expires thing you've been doing since high school. STOP...IT!

Third: For the sake of all that is Holy in heaven, practice your free throws. You are a career 74% free throw shooter. The past two seasons you are shooting 71% That's unacceptable. Jordan's WORST season was 78.4, and that was his absolute worst, and one of only two season in 15 below 80%. Fix it.
gotta agree with this ESPECIALLY the FT percentage, it's pretty pitiful that LeBron is not over 85 percent he misses waaay to many big FTs at the end of games
 
First off: LeBron, you are NOT a three point shooter. You're better than Rodman, yes. But you are a career - CAREER 34% three point shooter, and that's even including career high marks of 36.2%, 40.6%, and 37.9% your final 3 years in Miami. Yes, you make them occasionally, now you're shooting 30%, but that's not your shot. Stop taking it so often.

Secondly: This dribble the ball until 5 seconds before the clock expires thing you've been doing since high school. STOP...IT!

Third: For the sake of all that is Holy in heaven, practice your free throws. You are a career 74% free throw shooter. The past two seasons you are shooting 71% That's unacceptable. Jordan's WORST season was 78.4, and that was his absolute worst, and one of only two season in 15 below 80%. Fix it.



I'm with u on this...year 3 I'm Miami him and Wade cut down those outside attempts, I loved that forces them to be aggressive and kept the pressure on defenses.
 
What people aren't talking about is Wiggins would have been on a rookie contract. Kevin Loves' money (21M a year) could have been used on multiple players.

The cavs problem is they can't start a lineup that is good offensively and defensively from top to bottom at the same time. That's their issue. They'll have to figure out some type of rotation but teams like the spurs and warriors start both at the same time.

curry is the weak link defensively for the warriors starters but every other position defends VERY WELL so if 4/5 defend well then you can get by.

with love on the court the 4 is a liability if he can actually do something love can't stop it.

and kyrie, we love him but defensively he ain't all that right now.. whether its commitment to that end or what
lebron holds up his end.

so who do you play? tt and mosgov are the same player.. if you have them both on the court you get great rebounding some good defense and little to no offensive production in the scheme of the cavs offense.

unless they start feeding the post suddenly and try to space out with shooters it's going to look crazy

cause then who do you post up?

the best post player skill wise is love but the one who would do the most damage on the post is lebron. so how does that work?

lots of things to work out but they'll tear through the east though no problem.
 
lebron doesn't have too much power. anyone with sense knew this was going down. when you find out the inner workings its funny is all.
I actually think it will work, shit Blatt had it working. The team is good enough to make it happen no matter who's the coach.

I'm very curious to the what the Love/Blatt situation was about. Seem like Love would be idea for his scheme with the passing. Guess they just didn't mesh.

Wonder what Tmo is thinking. Read somewhere, Lebron was really hard on dude. Lebron said he would change his approach(stop ragging him) towards TMo because he wasn't responding well, figured he needed to ease off dude.

How would we know when the Cavs never ran Blatt's scheme. We been saying that since last year. TMo is team-Blatt, but I don't think Bron is feeling TMo. Things are just a mess.
 
It made sense to trade Wiggins

Some of you seem to forget that Love was a 20 and 10 player who could stretch the floor. What Bosh had to grow in to. The problem is Love obviously doesn't have the mental make up for that role. He was a 40% three point shooter as a 4/5.

Wiggins plays Lebron's position, because the hell if you want Wiggin's as a 2, since he can't really shoot. The defense would just back off Kyrie, Wiggins and Lebron and allow them to shoot and not get in the lane.

So how in the hell do they fix Love.
 
How would we know when the Cavs never ran Blatt's scheme. We been saying that since last year. TMo is team-Blatt, but I don't think Bron is feeling TMo. Things are just a mess.

Yea but you'll get it fixed. this don't change the eat projections imo. we'll see if they buy in or even make a change starting tonight.
 
Complex hoe ass had to throw a Kobe reference in there. Mofos cant stay off them shooting guards penises.
 
Yea but you'll get it fixed. this don't change the eat projections imo. we'll see if they buy in or even make a change starting tonight.

Yeah. This is a championship move to deal with either the Spurs or the Warriors. Lebron knows the deal... he lost to
both those teams the last two seasons. He ain't worried about the East... he know this team as they're playing the rotation
can't deal with those two squads.
 
Also, Lebron has to be really worried because the Warriors are just getting started. They can be better next year. Their stars are all young and under long-term contracts.

There is a good chance he ends up this generations Jerry West... always in the finals but consistently losing in it.
 
I kept telling people Kevin Love was a stat filler, but he wasn't shit. He was filling stats on bum squad and he's literally one of the worst defenders of all-time. I posted the stats during the speculation about the possible trade for Wiggins. This is the squad Lebron wanted, but the game has changed. You need to be able to go small ball and teams just go at Love when the game speeds up and they don't have the squad to fill the holes. It's hard to do it when you have Love and Kyrie on the floor at the same time. Warriors just need to cover Curry..and he's not horrible. just slightly below average... Irving is a bad defender and Love is one of the worst... it's not a problem in the east. but when those western conference teams go small ball, they struggle
 
Also, Lebron has to be really worried because the Warriors are just getting started. They can be better next year. Their stars are all young and under long-term contracts.

There is a good chance he ends up this generations Jerry West... always in the finals but consistently losing in it.

LeBron ain't seeing no more chips bruh unless he hoes himself out to another superstar laden team. Notice NOBODY is even discussing the prospect of coming to play with him because he's reach such an elevated place in his career, similar to the GOAT Mr. Jordan where players don't want to play with him anymore, they want beat him. He's pretty much at this point a gate keeper for current and future stars to beat, a name on a resume if you will. Sort of like a formerly elite boxer who at the end of his career is just sacrificed to a younger fighter to have his name on their resume... He will get numbers, but his time as a serious Chip contender are over, and he is much further past his prime than some think. Dude has A LOT of mileage on those legs at a young age, and his decline will be drastic... :smh:
 
and he is much further past his prime than some think. Dude has A LOT of mileage on those legs at a young age, and his decline will be drastic... :smh:

Statistically he doesn't look much different than he's looked the last few years (just his three point shooting is down). He's never been injury-prone so I think he still has 3-4 good more years in him. He carries around a lot of weight, but it's not really caused him problems.

He does have a lot of mileage on his legs, but Lebron is just not a freak athlete. he's actually a very smart basketball player so I think he'll be fine as long as he doesn't suffer a serious injury.

I just think the team needs to be constructed a certain way for him to succeed.

In Miami, he had Wade to carry the load on both ends. It took a lot of pressure of Lebron. Then the team was pretty much a bunch of shooters...so the spacing worked out well.
 
The Cavs have no bench they don't match up to the Spurs or Warriors. Iggy won the MVP of the finals and didn't start the Spurs 2nd unit would make the playoffs in the east. Love is not the only problem with the Cavs they also need a better bench.
 
The Cavs have no bench they don't match up to the Spurs or Warriors. Iggy won the MVP of the finals and didn't start the Spurs 2nd unit would make the playoffs in the east. Love is not the only problem with the Cavs they also need a better bench.


:lol: the front office felt Blatt wasn't using the bench properly, they felt he alienated Mo Williams, whom really looked good early while kevin love was beasting. Andy don't get run...so they have pieces...just wasn't using them...


Won't be shocked if Tmo is shipped, started TT and let Andy be the back up.
 
Van Gundy catching flashbacks.:lol:

It's a player's league. These guys are global stars. And very influential. You have to roll with the punches and make sure that contract is right, as a coach.
 
The Cavs have no bench they don't match up to the Spurs or Warriors. Iggy won the MVP of the finals and didn't start the Spurs 2nd unit would make the playoffs in the east. Love is not the only problem with the Cavs they also need a better bench.

the bench makes a difference now. warriors starters are crazy rested already.
sometimes they play like the 1st 2 minutes of a quarter then sit until the last 3 minutes in the 2nd and 3rd quarters when the game is in hand. and then rest the entire 4th. they stay on the court if someone is hot otherwise you get a huge dose of barbosa and livingston.

they've got barnes running with the 2nd unit now at times as well. the bench and how it's used is the difference. it'll be interesting to see if they do it the same way.. we'll see if walton was coaching or if kerr was coaching the entire time by their rotations going forward.

walton or whoever was calling the shots had this shit down to a science since november.
 
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