If so called black americans are NOT moors
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You playing word games like its 1993 and you in a NOI Mosque.(I can laugh right along with you!!)
I'm talking about DNA and I'm opening the envelope like Maury looking at you like......
You came into this thread talking about Neadanderthal DNA, but won't touch NORTH AFRICANS and their Neanderthal DNA. You now addressed the Asians after laughing at my first link, but, what type of warm caves did SOME North Africans live in?..
I'll wait for you to try to twist shit just like a woman on the Maury show.
What you posted as "evidence" is NOT evidence bro.
The two links you posted is the only thing backing you up and i proved those links to be fuckery.
Now the ball is in your court to post evidence to back up your position.
try again
All he does is post these
(insert Neanderthal comment and not post ANY fucking sources showing DNA research)
(insert questions that have been answered)
(insert
)(insert more deflection)
Cat came into this thread ASSERTING Europeans have all that Neanderthal DNA and didn't post one fucking link. I post the links for him, and then post MORE showing east Asians have more caveman DNA. He then concedes Asians are Neanderthals but goes back to attacking my links when I tell him to address North Africans.
He made a thread about Neanderthal DNA around the time it hit the news.
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=751038&highlight=Neanderthal
Notice once again, he makes an ASSERTION, but leaves out any links to research. Why? Because the research separates North Africans because of Neanderthal DNA. He isn't stupid, so he just manipulates the data to get the answers he wants.
The original studies were very clear at making distinctions about sub-Saharan Africans being the ones not affected by Neanderthal DNA.
And again, I only use the term(sub-saharan) that is used in all the research that he refuses to post. So I'm trying to opt out the argument he will raise about that instead of addressing the main issue.
All he does is post these
(insert Neanderthal comment and not post ANY fucking sources showing DNA research)
(insert questions that have been answered)
(insert
(insert more deflection)
Cat came into this thread ASSERTING Europeans have all that Neanderthal DNA and didn't post one fucking link. I post the links for him, and then post MORE showing east Asians have more caveman DNA. He then concedes Asians are Neanderthals but goes back to attacking my links when I tell him to address North Africans.
He made a thread about Neanderthal DNA around the time it hit the news.
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=751038&highlight=Neanderthal
Notice once again, he makes an ASSERTION, but leaves out any links to research. Why? Because the research separates North Africans because of Neanderthal DNA. He isn't stupid, so he just manipulates the data to get the answers he wants.
The original studies were very clear at making distinctions about sub-Saharan Africans being the ones not affected by Neanderthal DNA.
And again, I only use the term(sub-saharan) that is used in all the research that he refuses to post. So I'm trying to opt out the argument he will raise about that instead of addressing the main issue.
Lol I see you get it now. You used to take this idiots seriously and try be all diplomatic about addressing trollery. That's all it is. I only answer some of the dumb shit for the benefit of other people reading who ain't even commenting but may want a referenced or two to look at.
You two girls get soo tiring,
when you cant refute the message you lamely attack
the messengers with your gibberish tomfoolery..
gene just rambles and then his cheerleader comes in
to back him...
Yall two clowns need new tricks.....
Blabbery is not an effective response..
having the same ol cheerleader cheer you on in every
debate is just clownery on your behalf..
You are telling me, they are going to just nick name an african american THE MOOR..
just to name him that..
how you think mousetacy got her name.. because she sounds like barry white??
Or the reggae legend Yellow man get his name, because
he melanin rich like wesley snipes..?
How do you think the Blackfoot Indians got their name..
because they pink toes???
your babbling ways are played out and your cheerleader needs new pom poms...
when you cant refute the message you lamely attack
the messengers with your gibberish tomfoolery..
gene just rambles and then his cheerleader comes in
to back him...
Yall two clowns need new tricks.....
Blabbery is not an effective response..
having the same ol cheerleader cheer you on in every
debate is just clownery on your behalf..
You are telling me, they are going to just nick name an african american THE MOOR..
just to name him that..
how you think mousetacy got her name.. because she sounds like barry white??
Or the reggae legend Yellow man get his name, because
he melanin rich like wesley snipes..?
How do you think the Blackfoot Indians got their name..
because they pink toes???
your babbling ways are played out and your cheerleader needs new pom poms...
I like how you used the example of one guy named Archie that they nicknamed the Moor
And apparently the same people weren't walking around calling every Black person on the street Moors.
All your examples of Black Moors always involve little selections here and there within a population, where the Real Moors from the time period are a whole population.
In order to believe what you claim to believe you have to ignore thousands of real historic people with names, birthplaces and backgrounds lol.
You wouldn't even pick the general of the moorish army as your example. Nor writers, philosophers, artists, scientists from that era
You pick one boxer with a marketing nickname from a time period that isn't even related to the Moors you love to brag civilized Europe and such. A guy from 600 years later and in a different part of the world who doesn't even live in a community where his own mama would've called herself a moor.
That's how stupid your example is.
Yeah, because there are people who actually read the shit and make up their own minds. It's good to have people reading more than the same shit they are TOLD to read.
Now watch this...
I have provided numerous DNA research that shows there isn't any African DNA in Native Americans(prior to the last 500 years). Aboriginal Australian DNA is linked to Natives in the Americas going back thousands of years, and that's why SOME have dark skin. Have you seen how dark Native Australians can be? Alas, Aboriginal Australians have been away from Africa so long that they are mutant hybrids -- but with dark skin. Can't claim them, probably would try if they built anything down there.
Stop using names, selective translations, and other old forms of evidence like this is the 1980s. Provide some DNA links. Stop cherrypicking.
At least Kaya has a method to his madness that I completely understand. He admitted a page back that he is thinking about the North Africa/Egypt connection(basically saying that's why the term sub-saharan exits). You traveling all the way to the Americas to make arguments using language alone.
Time to go back and revise a lot of books. Seriously. The play on words and definitions wasn't even evidence to begin with. Most academics always argued that words can mean different things. DNA is now shitting on some of the theories you present like it is shitting on ancient alien theories.
Yeah, because there are people who actually read the shit and make up their own minds. It's good to have people reading more than the same shit they are TOLD to read.
Now watch this...
I have provided numerous DNA research that shows there isn't any African DNA in Native Americans(prior to the last 500 years). Aboriginal Australian DNA is linked to Natives in the Americas going back thousands of years, and that's why SOME have dark skin. Have you seen how dark Native Australians can be? Alas, Aboriginal Australians have been away from Africa so long that they are mutant hybrids -- but with dark skin. Can't claim them, probably would try if they built anything down there.
Stop using names, selective translations, and other old forms of evidence like this is the 1980s. Provide some DNA links. Stop cherrypicking.
At least Kaya has a method to his madness that I completely understand. He admitted a page back that he is thinking about the North Africa/Egypt connection(basically saying that's why the term sub-saharan exits). You traveling all the way to the Americas to make arguments using language alone.
Time to go back and revise a lot of books. Seriously. The play on words and definitions wasn't even evidence to begin with. Most academics always argued that words can mean different things. DNA is now shitting on some of the theories you present like it is shitting on ancient alien theories.
lol you're showing him DNA and I'm showing him historical context that shows why his whole basis is flawed.
He has to pick over THOUSANDS of people, whole POPULATIONS, writers, poets, generals, artwork, and skip over hundreds of years past the actual time the word Moor even meant anything to make that shit make sense.
Add all that to the DNA evidence and it's a wrap.
Having said all that and shit his bullshit down, I think its very safe to say there were Black WEST AFRICAN Muslims who probably played significant parts in the conquering of Iberia. I'd rather discuss it from a perspective of who certain individuals or units were, rather than making them all Black, and all as if they love us and didn't raid the same West African territories years later without a care about the people of the Sudan aka our nearest ancestors. The lines are not nearly as clean as these guys wanna make em out to be.
I keep using the example that in the future, thousands of years from now, these guys would be using a pic of Obama, and Colin Powell and saying the Americans who were a major world power in the late 20th, early 21st century were all Black.
Knowing what we as Black people have contributed to this country even as small a minority as we are, we've done a lot. I'm sure it could have been SOMETHING like that with the Moors.
Yeah, because the conquering West Asian scum had their hands down there with the Trans-Saharan slave trade. It's like that one thread that mentions Timbuktu and the libraries, but FAILS to mention West Asians brought the 'knowledge' and the paper(from their east invasions). That's why most that shit is in Arabic(and efforts have been made to make West Asians black
). It's funny, but cats only point to 'knowledge' being spread to Europe. They leave out Africa. Another example of cherrypicking. This is why cats pass around the same books some of which are now really being exposed by DNA evidence(not that they were accurately sourced to begin with). People trying to advance Eurocentric views OR Afrocentric views are two sides of the same fucking coin. Although humans aren't going to be 100 percent without bias, I respect those who at least try to look at information in an objective way.
I have a passion for the truth because I don't want my children falling for any bullshit. Whether it's Columbus 'discovered' America OR that they are North African/West Asian Moors. Besides, flipping to a conquering side after invasion isn't shit to be proud of.
To this day, those west Asian fucks are in our neighborhoods coming up and laughing their asses off at people claiming their shit -- especially when you look at some of the grimy shit they stated about SOME Africans when all this 'dropping knowledge' Europe shit was going down.
Yeah, because the conquering West Asian scum had their hands down there with the Trans-Saharan slave trade. It's like that one thread that mentions Timbuktu and the libraries, but FAILS to mention West Asians brought the 'knowledge' and the paper(from their east invasions). That's why most that shit is in Arabic(and efforts have been made to make West Asians black
This is why cats pass around the same books some of which are now really being exposed by DNA evidence(not that they were accurately sourced to begin with). People trying to advance Eurocentric views OR Afrocentric views are two sides of the same fucking coin. Although humans aren't going to be 100 percent without bias, I respect those who at least try to look at information in an objective way.
I have a passion for the truth because I don't want my children falling for any bullshit. Whether it's Columbus 'discovered' America OR that they are North African/West Asian Moors. Besides, flipping to a conquering side after invasion isn't shit to be proud of.
To this day, those west Asian fucks are in our neighborhoods coming up and laughing their asses off at people claiming their shit -- especially when you look at some of the grimy shit they stated about SOME Africans when all this 'dropping knowledge' Europe shit was going down.
So the answer is NO, you cant show me a man of any other race nicknamed the MOOR..!!
and he was a so called African AMerican..!!
black people were the first americans get over it, whether its african dna or austrillian...
we werent just Moors, we were Hebrews, Egyptian etc...
we are the original people... some even say our DNA matchs with
so called austrillian aboringines...
BBC documentary Ancient Voices, Tracking the First Americans
You are the gibber king!!!!
What you posted as "evidence" is NOT evidence bro.
The two links you posted is the only thing backing you up and i proved those links to be fuckery.
Now the ball is in your court to post evidence to back up your position.
try again
OH did the king of gibberish, mention asians..
Lets hear what an Asian professor has to say..
Jin is a leading proponent of the model of recent African origin of modern humans.[6] His research presented evidence that the majority of the gene pools in China originated from Africa.[7] His team analyzed the Y chromosomes of males around China and compared this group with those of Southeast Asians and Africans. Results of the analysis suggested that Southeast Asia was the first destination of the migration from Africa to Asia which began approximately 60,000 years ago; from there, migrants moved into Southern China, then crossing the Yangtze River to Northern China.[8][9] He "could not find any evidence that is consistent with the hypothesis of independent origin in China" in the 1998 study which used genetic markers called microsatellites to compare Chinese populations.[7][10] He stated that while his research does not necessarily rule out independent origin, the burden of proof has been shifted to those who believe in independent origin.[7] The findings contrast with the hypothesis that the Peking Man was the ancestor of Chinese people.[6]
Jin Li (Chinese: 金力; pinyin: Jin Li; born 1963) is a Chinese geneticist and the vice-president of Fudan University.[1][2] Jin is a professor at the National Human Genome Center and Fudan's Institute of Genetics, both in Shanghai.[3] He is the principal investigator of East Asian populations for the Genographic Project which collects DNA samples to map historical human migration patterns around the world.[4]
So the answer is NO, you cant show me a man of any other race nicknamed the MOOR..!!
and he was a so called African AMerican..!!
black people were the first americans get over it, whether its african dna or austrillian...
we werent just Moors, we were Hebrews, Egyptian etc...
we are the original people... some even say our DNA matchs with
so called austrillian aboringines...
BBC documentary Ancient Voices, Tracking the First Americans
You are the gibber king!!!!
Lol at some say. DNA says no.
Lol you're really a troll. You posted this already an mad we explained to you what it means already. It doesn't mean what you think it means. Your interpretation of it is ridiculous.
All he says is there isn't a separate origin out of China .they came out of Africa THROUGH southern. ALL hominids did in different waves.
Some migrated out of Africa to Southern Asia 60,000 years ago, then eventually to China. I think you seem to think some Africans just up and moved to China in one day lol. He's taking migrations of whole populations, over generations and in waves.
Here dude. You can watch him say it himself in this video:
http://youtu.be/s8SB0ZpwJOI
Same guy. He would laugh at you for the shit you're saying.
riiight he would laugh at me using his research..
you are insane..
this is your debate in a nutshell....
my pathetic evidence GOOD,
Your evidence BAD!!
You are telling me you know more than a actual geneticist, a professor!!!
I wish I could make this up!!
You just say any silly shit,
so are you implying that there were chinese people already there prior to the african migration.??
seriously is this what you are implying in all your jibber jabber...
you really go hard with the denial!!
You just say any silly shit,
so are you implying that there were chinese people already there prior to the african migration.??
seriously is this what you are implying in all your jibber jabber...
you really go hard with the denial!!
No dumbass. That's why you shouldn't post shit you can't read.
Here, I actually went
Right to the part where you can hear the source you quoted explain what he means.
http://youtu.be/CSxXDGXrtbI
http://youtu.be/d6uUKUNdcts
http://youtu.be/AouVV-GmT-4
So stop posting shit by smart people to back up your dumb shit
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Embarrassed now huh? Actually have the guy explaining it full out instead of you highlighting what you wanna cherry pick lol.
the only dumb shit is wasting time with your denial....
We are the original people,
you need to get over it..!!!!
Modern man originated in Africa yes. That doesn't make YOU anything dude. YOU are here 200,000 years later. Just like everyone else.
the gibber king and his cheerleader....
Im still waiting for an example of anybody of any other race
being nicknamed the moor in this country...
Im still waiting for an example of anybody of any other race
being nicknamed the moor in this country...
So the answer is NO, you cant show me a man of any other race nicknamed the MOOR..!!
and he was a so called African AMerican..!!
black people were the first americans get over it, whether its african dna or austrillian...
we werent just Moors, we were Hebrews, Egyptian etc...
we are the original people... some even say our DNA matchs with
so called austrillian aboringines...
BBC documentary Ancient Voices, Tracking the First Americans
You are the gibber king!!!!
That shit is already debunked. You can't use Africans AND Aboriginals as one despite skin color. Just as you can't compare east Asians with Europeans straight up even if they have the same skin color. Two different people who should claim their own shit. Period.
The Hebrew Holy Land(ISRAEL..WEST ASIA) is Neanderthal territory where the first mixture of Neanderthal and Humans supposedly took place ACCORDING to CURRENT DATA. You're claiming mutt societies and the shit is embarrassing. As bad as those cacs who want a blonde Jesus.
Shit, since SOME people want to claim West Asia as Africa, I guess Neanderthals are native to Africa. See how cherry picking works?
You do realize the people wrongly classified as 'new mutts' have been in West Asia and North Africa for 10,000 to 20,000 years. DNA evidence supports that. So does a fucking map. What kills cacs and e-militants is that the so-called cradle of civilization is full of mutts.
Bruh, are you slow?
I already posted that Asians have more Neanderthal DNA than Europeans and North Africans. I've dealt with the timeline numerous times. Mutts and PURE Africans arrived in what is known China after mixing with Neanderthals in West Asia, they then met up with other 'humanoids.' More mixing.
Sorry, everyone else on the planet -- INCLUDING SOME NORTH AFRICANS -- are Neanderthal mutants OR at the very least mutants because of time and natural selection.
Try to do an objective analysis. You're no different than those late 19th century and early 20th century cacs who tried to have shit one way.
That shit is already debunked. You can't use Africans AND Aboriginals as one despite skin color. Just as you can't compare east Asians with Europeans straight up even if they have the same skin color. Two different people who should claim their own shit. Period.
The Hebrew Holy Land(ISRAEL..WEST ASIA) is Neanderthal territory where the first mixture of Neanderthal and Humans supposedly took place ACCORDING to CURRENT DATA. You're claiming mutt societies and the shit is embarrassing. As bad as those cacs who want a blonde Jesus.
Shit, since SOME people want to claim West Asia as Africa, I guess Neanderthals are native to Africa. See how cherry picking works?
You do realize the people wrongly classified as 'new mutts' have been in West Asia and North Africa for 10,000 to 20,000 years. DNA evidence supports that. So does a fucking map. What kills cacs and e-militants is that the so-called cradle of civilization is full of mutts.
Bruh, are you slow?
I already posted that Asians have more Neanderthal DNA than Europeans and North Africans. I've dealt with the timeline numerous times. Mutts and PURE Africans arrived in what is known China after mixing with Neanderthals in West Asia, they then met up with other 'humanoids.' More mixing.
Sorry, everyone else on the planet -- INCLUDING SOME NORTH AFRICANS -- are Neanderthal mutants OR at the very least mutants because of time and natural selection.
Try to do an objective analysis. You're no different than those late 19th century and early 20th century cacs who tried to have shit one way.
Can you just say black people are the original people, can you just admit that?
Can you also admit you cannot find another race of man, other than an african american who was nick named The Moor in this stolen country of ours...
can you just admit those two things?
without all the jibber jabber!!
we will get into the fact that europeans have hidden our history and
we have to dig it up...later....
but for now can you just man up, for once in your bgol history of posting
and admit those two facts above...
The original people were Black. Not Black people are the original people. The Black people who are here now are descendants from them and guess what? So is everyone else.
Didn't I tell you pages back that that 'original man' talk is used by racists to justify white/Asian supremacy? You call these mutants like you're hurting their feelings. Meanwhile, the racists are all over the Internet talking about they are evolved versions of Africans.
And they ain't hiding a fucking thing. They are the ones who traced mankind back to Africa via genetics. It's all good when DNA says that. Folks like
. But the minute it says something you don't agree with, you ignore it. All cats are doing is cherrypicking information and throwing together a bullshit feel-good narrative and calling it knowledge and 'stolen' or 'hidden' history. Cats twisting a West Asian invasion of Africa -- and the Trans-Saharan slave trade that came with it -- into a good thing is borderline lunacy. Them corn beef slinging, 'my friend' saying, corner store running, West Asians must literally be in tears with laughter when they hear folks claiming their invasion of Africa and subsequent invasion of Southern Europe.
And once again, please stop going off fucking names. Definitions and use of words change over time. Provide me one just ONE DNA study linking Africans to Native Americans. I've posted all the info and still you've yet to refute it. You use old arguments that got by in the 70s. Europeans also referred to sand cacs as sand ninjas and moors, but the sand cacs are more Caucasian than anything. Go look at the DNA.
Going by your logic of what Euro cacs called sand cacs(and still do), sand cacs are black men. We know that's not true. Update your arguments for the 21st century.
Didn't I tell you pages back that that 'original man' talk is used by racists to justify white/Asian supremacy? You call these mutants like you're hurting their feelings. Meanwhile, the racists are all over the Internet talking about they are evolved versions of Africans.
And they ain't hiding a fucking thing. They are the ones who traced mankind back to Africa via genetics. It's all good when DNA says that. Folks like
Cats twisting a West Asian invasion of Africa -- and the Trans-Saharan slave trade that came with it -- into a good thing is borderline lunacy. Them corn beef slinging, 'my friend' saying, corner store running, West Asians must literally be in tears with laughter when they hear folks claiming their invasion of Africa and subsequent invasion of Southern Europe.
And once again, please stop going off fucking names. Definitions and use of words change over time. Provide me one just ONE DNA study linking Africans to Native Americans. I've posted all the info and still you've yet to refute it. You use old arguments that got by in the 70s. Europeans also referred to sand cacs as sand ninjas and moors, but the sand cacs are more Caucasian than anything. Go look at the DNA.
Going by your logic of what Euro cacs called sand cacs(and still do), sand cacs are black men. We know that's not true. Update your arguments for the 21st century.
B-b-but that one black fighter guy was nicknamed the moor!!! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
I'm still waiting for the DNA evidence. They tested Native Americans from both continents and haven't found any OLD African DNA.
What's funny is I see Eurocentric cacs do the same shit as Freddy. You know these cacs have books talking about they sailed next to ice and crossed the Atlantic to get to the Americas thousands of years ago. Interesting theory, but just like Freddy, no DNA to back their claims. Nothing.
Objective analysis shoots down fringe claims on both sides. The ironic thing is when mainstream academics shoot down fringe cacs theories they are accused by fringe cacs of trying to hide history. Sound familiar?
I was introduced to this quote yesterday and it made me think of this thread.
"You (the fake Jews) will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black but came back white. We cannot except you!"
-The late president of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser
I was introduced to this quote yesterday and it made me think of this thread.
"You (the fake Jews) will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black but came back white. We cannot except you!"
-The late president of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser
Cute. What makes Nasser so unwhite though?
You know One of the wildest conspiracy theories I ever heard (Probably 20 years ago now) was that a group of Moors were really running America from behind the scenes. It sounded crazy as fuck at the time, But I've seen articles online talking about how so called BlueBloods are actually of moorish ancestry or a variation of this idea. Im no historian but fact is often stranger than fiction so i'll keep an open mind.
If that's the case then whats the benefit of being a Moor in the first place?
I'm a moor but I'm not putting the other Moors in positions of power. Stupidest shit Ive ever heard. You guys are desperate.
Im not sure what you are alluding to, but the original Arabs
were a so called black race...
so called black people aka Moors were in this country long before the european infestation....!
That is all Im saying...
And you have to realize, the european has our true history covered up, out of fear,
You have to piece it together from the things he forgot to cover up,
Like the Jesuit Letters, and things he cant cover up but lives in denial about them like the Olmec heads...
and the Olmec civilazation...
weve been so mind fucked with european history and white jesuses, that
most just dont know what to believe, but the truth is all around us, we just have to know what we see and not what they say.
I know of blackamoor, I aint never hear of cacamoor.
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