I agree they handled him wrong. Before he got hurt the fans were going crazy for him. I guess they just like Bryan more, but I'm getting tired of that damn yes movement.
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I agree they handled him wrong. Before he got hurt the fans were going crazy for him. I guess they just like Bryan more, but I'm getting tired of that damn yes movement.
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"I'm gonna rip this guy apart .... psychologically."
I catfished your ass
They need to do that with New Day like ASAP. Kofi is too talented to get booed.
I hate that New Day Gimmick. I thought they were gonna make the new day a heel faction at first, but they went with this coon crap. The last time Kofi got a major push was when he had that feud with Randy Orton. I would love for Kofi to feud with Seth Rollins, but that will never happen.
That would be a mistake. Fans really hated Rocky Maivia. They don't really hate Roman Reigns. The post-Mania crowd is always full of smarks who want to "hijack" shows. Come next week, Reigns will be back as one of the more popular guys on the roster.
Go back to a slower build for him and keep him the hell away from Big Show and Kane and he'll be ready for another big push.
Kofi should just leave. It's over. He's as high as he's going to get.
I almost never think guys should walk away from guaranteed 6 figures but the longer he there, the more they'll damage his credibility and fuck up his asking price when he inevitably ends up on the indy circuit. It's worked out for Drew McIntyre and Justin Gabriel and he's at least as good as either of them.
I know that Brock is probably going to take some time off of tv and Rollins and Reign will probably feud for a while but this is where the old head sports fan in me kicks in.
If the champ loses, then he is instantly the number one contender and the rematch should go without saying. I know that Brock doesn't need the title to be the man, but I don't want to see him disappear until Summer Slam and then come back and start feuding with someone else and no mention to the fact that he never got his rematch.
WWE has done that too many times. With their ole 'the fans won't remember' ass writers. Fuck you, we remember.
Don't blame the writers. Vince is the problem. Former writers keep telling the same story of having storylines drawn up and Vince ordering rewrites the Monday afternoon.
I see they came up with a way to keep Brock away from a rematch and give him time off.
Smart play.
Grandpa Simpson vs Mr. Magoo
Just let these men retire already.
For what? They both just had two very good matches the other night. With their schedules, they can muster up enough gas to do it one more time in a 100k seat stadium.
Just being old is not a reason to retire. Not being able to work is a reason. Hogan and Flair should never get back in the ring but Sting and Taker is the biggest match left for them to have at Mania.
JR used to get beat up all the time. Past time Cole got some of that old "Kill JR" love.
Brock has a Bruiser Brody vibe about him. I'm loving it.
JR used to get beat up all the time. Past time Cole got some of that old "Kill JR" love.
Brock has a Bruiser Brody vibe about him. I'm loving it.
Brock put everybody but Lillian Garcia in the hospital last night. Thats the kind of old school brute character I miss. When I'm sitting there trying to figure out "HOW in the hell is anybody ever going to beat this freight train of a human being?" that is when pro wrestling is doing its job.
At some point the heel turn is gonna come. I doubt all 3 will turn though. Woods and Big E will probably turn on Kofi at some point. They can very well get over as a heel faction. Kofi ring style is more or a face. He would have to limit his high spots like Rollins has white being a heel.
I'm glad WWE didn't go with the Mighty Mouse gimmick for Neville that was rumored. The guy is way too talented. He's gonna get over quick. His mic skills need improvement.
Calisto can pull off moves that Rey in the WWE never could. That shoulder stand spot was nice.
Yeah between them and Roman Reigns....they gotta do something. This shit with Roman is stupid IMO. Like I can understand Cena. But when they push new talent...maybe a bit too early but when they push a solid new talent they are booing? But at the same time if i'm them i'm not letting the fans dictate my product. But New Day definitely needs to go. To their credit last night was the biggest response i've heard them get even though it was about how they sucked.
Them were some nice debuts by Lucha Dragons and Neville though. It was a nice follow up Raw to Mania.
My problem with that thinking is that people never stop chanting 'one more match' until we get a match where the person is so old that they can barely move. And then people turn on you and start saying how these performers are old, only doing it for the money, and should have retired years ago. And nobody will turn on you faster than the 'fans'.
And this isn't just a wrestling thing, this is sports fans in general. Foreman, Holyfield, even Roy Jones Jr.
Hell remember this shit right here
Not that Jordan didn't have some good games that year, or that it wasn't for a good cause, but did we really need a season long farewell tour?
Like his playing for the Wizards was the thing that made us finally say, "oh yeah he is the G.O.A.T." We already knew that and we didn't need 'one more run'.
Taker and Sting are living legends and they done everything that we need to see. Nothing they can do now will make us love them more than we do now. All they can do now is gamble with have that 'one more match' that really does look like Grandpa Simpson fighting Mr. Magoo.
I've gotten into countless debates over this and I guess it makes me a bad sports fan, but I'm perfectly okay with a guy retiring on top. Even if they could have easily went for and probably got another chip. In the case of Taker and Sting, I'm sure that they 'could probably' put on a fantastic match next year, but I don't need them to. I'd be more happy with a mega-H.O.F. induction event where both men get inducted.
That was half assed... Brock was a beast last night, but they should have played it like suspension or not Brock can and will pop up at anytime...
this is how Raw should have ended:
Brock rag-dolling Seth Rollins on the ramp, while a squad of security and cops armed with prop tasers and stun batons are unable to even slow him down...
For the next 2 weeks Rollins is wearing a neck brace and limping with a cane... and ambushing Roman with help
Paul Heyman starts popping up with Brock's intro music in the middle of matches -announcers start a slow burn fear mongering campaign, Brock graduates from beast to monstrous boogie man... every month or 3 Brock shows up and scares the shit out of someone... until its time for his next PPV angle.
So how do you keep Paul Heyman off TV? He's clearly gonna be someone else manager right?
Doing that you're cutting Rollins legs from under him from the beginning of his title reign. The last thing they need is another Miz type champion. Rollins has had a great year since turning heel. He's been their top talent for the most part of the year.
Gotta agree with chrislee on this one. The way that they've played things the past 2 nights have been perfect for both. Rollins is the sneaky heel who has some level of protection from The Authority but is dangerous. And he's the new champion thru crafty shenanigans on his part. And Brock is the unbeatable, uncontrollable bad ass who got screwed out of his title and out of his rematch.
Having Brock pop back up at the end of the show might just creates the expectation that he'll be back next week like they did with Cena's "firing" at the hands of Wade Barrett years ago. Brock should come back out of the blue and lay waste to everything in sight but there's time for that and with another PPV or special coming up they can't afford to have Rollins in a brace selling an injury right now to a guy who isn't going to be on Raw next week. Maybe Brock appears at the PPV to interfere in a Rollins-Reigns title match.
I honestly believe the only way to turn the fans back Roman's side is to put him in a feud with Cena for the US Heavyweight belt. Other than that, he's gotta turn heel.
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"I'm gonna rip this guy apart .... psychologically."
Yep.
My problem with that thinking is that people never stop chanting 'one more match' until we get a match where the person is so old that they can barely move. And then people turn on you and start saying how these performers are old, only doing it for the money, and should have retired years ago. And nobody will turn on you faster than the 'fans'.
And this isn't just a wrestling thing, this is sports fans in general. Foreman, Holyfield, even Roy Jones Jr.
Hell remember this shit right here
Not that Jordan didn't have some good games that year, or that it wasn't for a good cause, but did we really need a season long farewell tour?
Like his playing for the Wizards was the thing that made us finally say, "oh yeah he is the G.O.A.T." We already knew that and we didn't need 'one more run'.
Taker and Sting are living legends and they done everything that we need to see. Nothing they can do now will make us love them more than we do now. All they can do now is gamble with have that 'one more match' that really does look like Grandpa Simpson fighting Mr. Magoo.
I've gotten into countless debates over this and I guess it makes me a bad sports fan, but I'm perfectly okay with a guy retiring on top. Even if they could have easily went for and probably got another chip. In the case of Taker and Sting, I'm sure that they 'could probably' put on a fantastic match next year, but I don't need them to. I'd be more happy with a mega-H.O.F. induction event where both men get inducted.
Doesn't make you a bad fan. You feel how you feel.
But the reality of the situation is athletes almost never go out while they still think they can go and there is good money on the table. Sting and Taker should never do full schedules again but both can still muster up enough to work one (or two) big matches in the next 12 months and you know they aren't turning down a big 7 figure check for one match and a couple promos for next year's Mania.
Since it became a realistic option, I've long said it's probably not going to be a great match but it's a match where just having it would be half the battle and they're good enough to keep it from being a complete disaster.
No. Absolutely not. That's too much show given to a part time guy while undercutting your new champion, who's already starting from a negative.
I don't even think he's had a great year as he's lost way too much for a guy you (supposedly) want to be your lead heel but doing it the way Vicious recommended would kill him and his run and one year from now, Seth Rollins is in a ladder match for the IC title with 6 other guys.
No, he doesn't. Forget that post-Mania crowd and Reigns still gets a more positive response than negative. With the whole Mania fiasco behind him, they and we can move on and go back to him as he was before: the young badass who's moving up the ladder.
He's in the title picture but he's not the next guy up so they're going to keep trying to build him up, I'm thinking for SummerSlam.
that've been fucked up if he had backhanded her into a barricade..then audience members would show up on the following RAW shows with signs saying"EAT THE CAKE,LILLIAN!!"
Actually - I wished he would have F-5 Stephaniethat've been fucked up if he had backhanded her into a barricade..then audience members would show up on the following RAW shows with signs saying"EAT THE CAKE,LILLIAN!!"
Actually - I wished he would have F-5 Stephanie
They can't do man on woman violence anymore. I heard it had something to do with the contract they have with Mattel toys.
I need Krystal Marshall's phone to be hacked IMMEDIATELY
Sounds like a good time to bring Sasha up.
I think if the make him loose clean in a few matches to some other faces he could get back on top. Or put him in one of those Daniel Bryan type angles where the Authority throws everything at him and (he looses) keeps coming back. Folks just feel like he is just John Cena with a tan and a wig, that shyt where you get beat for 30min and come back in the last 5min of a match with three moves for the win just doesn't work anymore.
I keep saying Sasha + Big E + Mark Henry = new heel team.
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That's where you direct Reigns...the respect Heyman showed before the match, how Reigns survived the beating, now let Heyman be his mouth piece & groom him.
