GOTHAM: New 'young' Batman - themed series on FOX

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Just emerged are set photos of McKenzie (“The OC,” “Southland”) as Gordon, Donal Logue (“Terriers”) as fellow cop Harvey Bullock, 13-year-old David Mazouz (“Touch”) as future Batman Bruce Wayne and 14-year-old Michelle Pfeiffer clone Camren Bicondova as future Catwoman Selina Kyle.

so they got a America's Best Dance Crew castoff to play Selina kyle.. :rolleyes:
 
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just emerged are set photos of mckenzie (“the oc,” “southland”) as gordon, donal logue (“terriers”) as fellow cop harvey bullock, 13-year-old david mazouz (“touch”) as future batman bruce wayne and 14-year-old michelle pfeiffer clone camren bicondova as future catwoman selina kyle.
God!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am hoping that they put in some FLAVOR with the cast!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
who could this Fish Mooney possible EVOLVE INTO???

Jada Pinkett Smith will play Fish Mooney, a name even the biggest fans of "Batman" probably won't recognize.

It seems Mooney is an original character on the show, but one that is very important. Producer Warner Bros. TV describes her this way: "A sadistic gangster boss and nightclub owner, Fish Mooney's got the street smarts and almost extra-sensory abilities to read people like an open book. Imposing and hotheaded, she's not one to be crossed." She's also the boss of Oswald Cobblepot ( Robin Lord Taylor),the future Penguin.

There is a possibility that the character will evolve into a villain fans know from the "Batman" franchise. After all, the Caped Crusader's rogues' gallery is rich and filled with possibilities. Watching an evil Pinkett Smith controlling Cobblepot and her gang in and attempt to control Gotham City should be a fun thing to see.
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Practically ALL the comic creators at a convention I went to recently were raving about "GOTHAM".

I honestly didn't know the show was filming in NYC until one of my West Coast friends gave me the scoop, and casting calls in various trades.

Everyone and their dog is still waiting for a "leak".

As far as Fish Mooney's character...

For know,

This villain is what came to my mind when they made a few revelations on The BATMAN panel about how the character plays out in the Batman universe...

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Except Orca was considered one of the WORST villains in BATMAN's Rogues Gallery.
And that Larry Hama run was very hated among the Batman books.
 
Kyle Massey Joins Fox’s Batman Prequel ‘Gotham’

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*Kyle Massey has booked a recurring role on Fox’s Batman prequel “Gotham,” reports Deadline.com.

The hourlong drama series is based on DC Comics characters from the Batman universe and follows the origin stories of Commissioner James Gordon (Ben McKenzie) as an idealistic rookie detective in Gotham City, along with Bruce Wayne and the villains who made Gotham City famous.

Massey, a former Disney Channel star and “Dancing With the Stars” contestant, will play Macky, an abused and neglected kid who lives on the streets.
 
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i dont get how they could cast that Donal guy as Harvey Bullock

this is Harvey Bullock
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and how the fuck can Commissioner Gordon be younger than Bullock? :smh::smh:
 
Practically ALL the comic creators at a convention I went to recently were raving about "GOTHAM".

I honestly didn't know the show was filming in NYC until one of my West Coast friends gave me the scoop, and casting calls in various trades.

Everyone and their dog is still waiting for a "leak".

As far as Fish Mooney's character...

For know,

This villain is what came to my mind when they made a few revelations on The BATMAN panel about how the character plays out in the Batman universe...

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Except Orca was considered one of the WORST villains in BATMAN's Rogues Gallery.
And that Larry Hama run was very hated among the Batman books.

Hope they ALSO talked about how Dini and Smith created this entire series during a podcast too...
 
Kyle Massey Joins Fox’s Batman Prequel ‘Gotham’

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*Kyle Massey has booked a recurring role on Fox’s Batman prequel “Gotham,” reports Deadline.com.

The hourlong drama series is based on DC Comics characters from the Batman universe and follows the origin stories of Commissioner James Gordon (Ben McKenzie) as an idealistic rookie detective in Gotham City, along with Bruce Wayne and the villains who made Gotham City famous.

Massey, a former Disney Channel star and “Dancing With the Stars” contestant, will play Macky, an abused and neglected kid who lives on the streets.

so maybe down the line he'll be the new Clayface..? :lol:
 
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Here's another trailer for Fox's Commissioner Gordon prequel Gotham, featuring Ben McKenzie as the young detective investigating a crime scene while baddies Selina Kyle/Catwoman (Camren Bicondova), Fish Mooney (Jada Pinkett-Smith) and Oswald Cobblepott/The Penguin (Robin Taylor) look on menacingly. But there may also be another villain's hand at work here: Earlier today, Bleeding Cool reported that the show planned to tease the arrival of the Joker by introducing a new character in each episode who could potentially turn out to be Gotham's iconic Big Bad. While the trailer doesn't feature any conspicuous flower sellers, card sharks or super smiley dudes, we do see McKenzie picking up a newspaper clipping with a cheeky "welcome home" scrawled in red ink, which, frankly, seems like a pretty Joker-esque move to us.
 
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Here's another trailer for Fox's Commissioner Gordon prequel Gotham, featuring Ben McKenzie as the young detective investigating a crime scene while baddies Selina Kyle/Catwoman (Camren Bicondova), Fish Mooney (Jada Pinkett-Smith) and Oswald Cobblepott/The Penguin (Robin Taylor) look on menacingly. But there may also be another villain's hand at work here: Earlier today, Bleeding Cool reported that the show planned to tease the arrival of the Joker by introducing a new character in each episode who could potentially turn out to be Gotham's iconic Big Bad. While the trailer doesn't feature any conspicuous flower sellers, card sharks or super smiley dudes, we do see McKenzie picking up a newspaper clipping with a cheeky "welcome home" scrawled in red ink, which, frankly, seems like a pretty Joker-esque move to us.
This whole concept stinks of Smallville.:hmm::smh:
 
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A 21 Minute Look At GOTHAM!!
 
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Young (Pre-Commissioner) Gordon Is the Hero of ‘Gotham’

“Gotham” begins with classic Batman visuals: a hooded figure crouches between a pair of gargoyles before jumping off a building. Except that it’s not Bruce Wayne, a.k.a. the Batman, who’s going off the roof. He’s still 8 years old and has yet to beat up his first criminal. At that moment he’s leaving a movie theater with his parents.

Judged among this fall’s group of new television shows, the pilot for Fox’s “Gotham” (beginning Monday night) stands out for what it has: a distinctive look, a dash of style, a collection of slightly exaggerated but convincing performances. People who come to it because of its Batman connection, though, are likely to focus on what it doesn’t have, which is a costumed hero.

If they stick around, they can see whether the series continues to pull off the trick of being credible as both a more or less straight-ahead crime drama (its essential structure) and a glossy comic-book adaptation (its marketing mandate). The show’s creator, Bruno Heller, has experience with the nonprocedural procedural — he made “The Mentalist” for CBS, which has survived into a seventh season by placing less emphasis on detective work than on workplace humor and the winsome charm of its star, Simon Baker. “Gotham” presents a similar sort of challenge, but its dark, dystopian, highly stylized mode will give it a higher degree of difficulty.

One of the fall’s three new comics-inspired series (along with NBC’s “Constantine” and CW’s “Flash”), “Gotham” is being called a Batman prequel. That’s true and not true, as it begins with the same foundational scene that every new Batman narrative — including Tim Burton’s “Batman” and Christopher Nolan’s “Batman Begins” — must include, though usually in flashback.

On their way home from the theater (the opera in the more grandiose “Batman Begins”), Bruce’s parents are gunned down in the street as he watches. In “Gotham,” the murders are also witnessed by a rooftop prowler, who will turn out to be Selina Kyle, the future Catwoman.

But instead of jumping forward a couple of decades to the grown-up Bruce in cape and mask, the show stays in the present and introduces its actual hero, James Gordon, the younger version of the familiar Commissioner Gordon. Here he’s a brash young detective who catches the Wayne case, befriends Bruce and his stoic butler, Alfred, and gets a quick education in Gotham City’s moral rot.

Much of the fun of “Gotham,” at least initially, lies in seeing which Batman characters Mr. Heller and his staff have chosen to incorporate and how they’ve tweaked them. In addition to Gordon, there’s the brutal cop Harvey Bullock, here cast as Gordon’s partner, and a roster of proto-villains or adversaries: Kyle, a very young Ivy Pepper (presumably the future Poison Ivy), a police forensics technician named Edward Nygma (the future Riddler) and the apprentice gangster Oswald Cobblepot, who hates his nickname, Penguin.

As Gordon, Ben McKenzie is solid in a more theatrical version of the upright-cop role he played in “Southland.” Donal Logue is reliably blustery and sarcastic as Bullock. The biggest impressions are made by the villains, whose smaller roles are looser and more fun: Robin Lord Taylor as Cobblepot, Cory Michael Smith as Nygma and Jada Pinkett Smith as a new character, a chartreuse-haired gang boss with the distracting name Fish Mooney.

The real star of the “Gotham” pilot is its consistent style, a combination of production design, cinematography and writing that manages to evoke both the bang-pow 1940s spirit of the original “Batman” and post-”Blade Runner” neo-noir. If you’re going to make yet another show or movie about an honest cop in a corrupt city, you’d better make it look good, and this Gotham City, with its nightmarish gothic skyline under perpetually gray skies, looks pretty good.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/22/a...sioner-gordon-is-the-hero-of-gotham.html?_r=0
 
Gordon character has to evolve but the he was supposed to kill Oswald Cobblepot / The Penguin is terrible script writing. And what the Penquin do, goes on a killing spree..:smh:
 
gotham = NYC

even got the brooklyn bridge, chinese sweatshops and chinese restaurants within 30 second window during the episode
 
Gotham Reveals An Early Balloon-Themed Version of Batman Was Less Scary

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Before a man dressed up as a bat and went out to terrorize the criminal scum of Gotham City, there was another vigilante. A man who used balloons to deal with corruption and crime. They called him... Balloonman. And we got to know him pretty well last night on Gotham. Spoilers ahead...

This was another fun episode of Gotham, in which the buddy-cop hijinks between Jim Gordon and Harvey Bullock continue to be pure gold. And yet, it was also another episode that seemed to be trying awfully hard to give us giant hints and winks at the Bat-shaped future of this world.

The actual plot of the episode is pretty neat, and reveals just how fed up ordinary people are with the corruption and nastiness in Gotham — in a nutshell, a guy has gotten four weather balloons and is chaining them to some of the city's leading scumbags, causing them to float up until they die in the stratosphere. As methods of committing murder, it's pretty goofy. But it allows the show to talk about the city's scummy ethos and include a lot of conversations about whether a vigilante is needed in Gotham.

And then... the show has to keep winking at the audience. All of the scenes involving Bruce Wayne in this episode are completely pointless, and mostly are there so that we can see Young Bruce contemplating the work of another vigilante, and realizing that Balloonman is going about it the wrong way. Bruce also pores over the case files about his parents' murder, looking for a clue that he doesn't see. But Bruce's arc in this episode consists of not eating, and then eating at the end when he realizes that people do need a vigilante.

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Also, when Balloonman gets caught, he gives a big speech about how there will be others like him, and maybe one of them will be some kind of flying creature of the night... yes, wait... some kind of flying marsupial perhaps.

It's a little bit silly, and the show really, really does not need to spoonfeed us this stuff.

Because like I said, the stuff with Bullock and Gordon is great — Bullock doesn't care about the Balloonman as long as he's killing Ponzi-scheming bastards and pedophile priests, but as soon as he takes down Detective Cranston (who beats people with his community service award) then Bullock is all over it.

In the end, Gordon catches the Balloonman, through pure luck (the Balloonman was a juvenile detention officer who happened to have Gordon's paperwork in his pocket when he attacked a dirty cop, and the cop grabbed it before he was chained to a balloon. It makes total sense. Why are you looking like that?) and Bullock basically wants to let the Balloonman die at the hands (um, the strings) of his own balloon. But Gordon believes in justice for everyone — so he risks his own life to bring the Balloon Man in alive.

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Gordon is pretty anti-vigilante in this episode, which means we're going to get to see his attitudes change as things get worse. He says at one point, "Everyone has to matter or nobody matters. Otherwise people lose faith. That's when you get vigilantes."

The hilarious part, though, is all the "man on the street" interviews where everybody is like, "Yeahhhhhhhh Balloonman! There's a new sheriff in town, and he's got a balloon for every crook!" And at the end of the episode, when the Balloonman has been caught, the TV reporter starts editorializing into the camera about how sad it is that this murdering vigilante has been nabbed, because who will save the people of Gotham now?

Gordon also keeps needling Bullock about the fact that they got the wrong guy for the Wayne murder, and the fact that they're generally pretty terrible at being cops. What's great about all those scenes is that Bullock is kind of annoyed at having his ethical lapses pointed out like that, but he's not particularly angry — he's sort of laid-back and mellow in his lack of ethical standards.

Also, Selina Kyle tells Gordon she saw the face of the man who shot the Waynes... but doesn't actually describe that face, because Gordon is too busy climbing down into a sewer to look for the wallet she snatched right before the murder, proving she was at the scene. And then she makes her escape while he's down there.

Meanwhile, the Penguin comes back to Gotham and witnesses like ten muggings and assaults in a 20 second period. He kills a guy who recognizes him and threatens to rat him out to Fish Mooney, and then he kills another guy for his shoes, so he can take that guy's job at a restaurant frequented by mobsters. (That's a job-seeking strategy that probably never occurs to most people, but apparently it works great.) And then the Penguin finds himself face to face with Sal Maroni, the rival crime boss who's coming up and challenging Carmine Falcone. (Most of us know Maroni as the guy who turned Harvey Dent into Two-Face.)

And speaking of which, Fish Mooney apparently sends someone to rough up Falcone's girlfriend, as payback for Falcone roughing up her boyfriend. And then she insinuates to Allen and Montoya, the Two Honest Cops in Gotham, that Jim Gordon killed the Penguin for Falcone. (This leads to Allen and Montoya ineffectually confronting Gordon, and then Montoya having another one of her ex-lovers coversations with Gordon's girlfriend Barbara, who later gets Gordon to swear that he hasn't murdered anyone lately — or no drink for Gordon.)

And then just as Barbara has gotten reassured that Jim Gordon is a good guy after all, his old friend the Penguin turns up at their front door.

All in all, this show continues to be as two-sided as Two-Face's infamous coin — the ridiculously blatant hints about "but one day maybe there will be another vigilante in town, who doesn't kill and has pointy ears" are just bonkers. But I could watch the Bullock-and-Gordon hour, with a campy mob war simmering in the background, for hours.

Oh, and check out the set designs — Barbara's place has a ginormous clockface which I didn't notice before, and Fish Mooney's club has a ginormous fish skeleton sign:

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Five Things to Look for in Upcoming Episodes of Gotham

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No Joker just yet. Although attendees were hopeful Sunday’s Gotham panel would be revealing in terms of villain appearances and story arcs, few specifics were teased during the event’s video sneak-peek and Q&A session. Members from FOX’s comic prequel series — including Danny Cannon (exec producer and director), Ben McKenzie (Jim Gordon), Donal Logue (Harvey Bullock), Robin Lord Taylor (Oswald Cobblepot/Penguin), Sean Pertwee (Alfred Pennyworth), and Erin Richards (Barbara Kean) — took the main stage at New York Comic-Con to answer questions from fans and IGN TV’s Eric Goldman. If you have not watched the first three episodes of Gotham, stop reading. The panelists were tight-lipped about spoilers, but gave us a lot to speculate about:

1. Arkham Asylum and the next episode
Cannon and Co. screened two clips that will appear in Monday night's new episode, titled “Arkham.” Arkham was aggressively teased during last week’s episode, and Cannon said lunatics will begin to emerge from the muck. In the first clip, continuing from last weekend’s cliffhanger, Cobblepot appears at Gordon’s doorstep. He tells Gordon — who does his best Christian Bale impression in a dark alleyway — that a war is coming, with promises of many bloody casualties. Cobblepot begs Gordon to let him be a secret agent of sorts — with obvious Machiavellian plans to overthrow Gotham’s underground. In the next clip, things get graphic amid a City Council vote tied to the future of the Arkham district. A man roaming the sketchy streets of Gotham kills a councilman and one of his associates in cold blood, posing as a “constituent” with a fancy invention in the shape of a long, skinny, studded kaleidoscope.

2. Alfred’s parenting skills take two extreme turns
When discussing the portrayal of his character, Pertwee delved a little bit into Alfred’s military background, which, to an extent, informs his parenting skills (or lack thereof). “They get worse” as the season goes on, Pertwee said, alluding to the valet’s awkward position as both father figure and butler to young Bruce Wayne. He didn’t specify what worse meant exactly, but Cannon said there’s a moment in episode eight in which Bruce confronts Alfred about an anger the young protagonist feels burning inside him. He asks Alfred if it will ever go away, and Alfred says he doesn’t know. What follows, Cannon said, is a beautiful moment in which Bruce asks the military vet-turned-valet to teach him how to fight.

3. Life gets messy for Gordon
McKenzie said Gordon is going to have to figure out how to save his neck amid all the lies he’s sown between Bullock and Barbara. The reappearance of the Penguin in last week’s episode has triggered a labyrinthine trap that has Gordon’s walls of support closing in on him to quash suspicion and find answers. In Monday’s episode, Gordon tells Cobblepot that if underground leader Carmine Falcone sees the rogue has returned, he’ll kill them both (Gordon was supposed to execute the Penguin in the pilot). Gordon has more than Falcone to worry about, though, and when asked if Bullock will find out about Gordon’s lies, Logue said, “That might happen.”

4. More of the cast members will start to interact with each other
Thus far, character relationships within the show have been contained within their expected realms. Gordon deals with Barbara; Fish Mooney deals with Penguin; Alfred deals with Bruce; and so on. Cannon conceded, however, that in coming episodes characters will start to mix things up more and interact with cast members they normally don't. Logue blurted that “Alfred goes off!” On who? That, of course, was left unanswered. But Cannon followed-up that viewers will “start to realize why [Alfred]’s a great keeper of the gate … he’s a badass.” Also, Cannon promised that Selina Kyle (Catwoman) and Bruce would begin to interact more directly.

5. Yes, you will start to see the Joker (et al.)
The number of seasons Gotham will have to riff on the prequel mythology is uncertain, but Cannon said he hopes they’ll have enough time to tease as many villains as possible. He gave dodgy answers when asked directly if viewers will see a young Harley Quinn or The Court of Owls anytime soon. He did, however, outright say that Harvey Dent will appear in episode nine, and Victor Zsasz two episodes prior. He also hinted that their version of the Joker’s origin story might precede the one detailed in The Killing Joke. “We’re going to go way, way, way back, so I don’t think he’d be telling jokes already,” Cannon said, after one fan asked if Fish Mooney’s fledgling stand-up comic shown in the pilot was a nod to the notorious supervillain.

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Richards said the female roles on the show are much more complicated than anything we’ve seen in the movies. TV is leading the way, giving roles like hers and that of the Montoya character, multiple layers and emotional purpose. She also promised viewers would soon learn more about Barbara’s past with Montoya.

Logue said Cannon wants him to gain weight for Bullock — seems like he’d only do it if McKenzie grew that iconic Jim Gordon moustache, though.

Taylor said the Penguin will become adept at manipulating people with his endearment and wit, thereby getting his enemies to self-destruct and play off each other.

Cannon said that which is hidden underneath Wayne Manor will be kept hidden — for a little while longer.

Nobody knows what time this show takes place (there are cell phones and ’70s-era cars). Cannon ribbed that Gotham probably takes place 18 years before the Nolan films, whenever they take place.
 
Me and you were the only 2 people who watched that. :lol:

no you weren't...

:D



* boom

Guess that makes four of us. I had high hopes for that show too.

so they got a America's Best Dance Crew castoff to play Selina kyle.. :rolleyes:

Had to rerun that. Chick still at times look a good twenty years older than what she is.


I think Fish is gonna get popped. Will she return as something else? Dunno.

Cobblepot is the glue holding this show together though. It would be interesting without him, but he is the reason you come back every week. You know it's true.

How many gold dresses do they got backstage? Seriously?



If allowed I think the show has potential. It's good stuff. But as characters start to evolve into what we know them as, they have to figure that out. You can't have Penguin, Joker, Clayface, etc, all be 'them' at the same time. So to see that is going be interesting how they grow and when they grow.
 
Guess that makes four of us. I had high hopes for that show too.



Had to rerun that. Chick still at times look a good twenty years older than what she is.


I think Fish is gonna get popped. Will she return as something else? Dunno.

Cobblepot is the glue holding this show together though. It would be interesting without him, but he is the reason you come back every week. You know it's true.

How many gold dresses do they got backstage? Seriously?



If allowed I think the show has potential. It's good stuff. But as characters start to evolve into what we know them as, they have to figure that out. You can't have Penguin, Joker, Clayface, etc, all be 'them' at the same time. So to see that is going be interesting how they grow and when they grow.

this is gonna sound silly but the Penguin's height bothers me.
 
this is gonna sound silly but the Penguin's height bothers me.

:lol:

Naw I feel you. As far as visualization goes you gotta think DeVito was perfect for the role considering he's so short and was padded to look like a penguin.

I think it will come together as he finds himself, he already has a problem with wanting to look the part he's playing. When he does find his key pieces that will be the kicker. Dude is doing a good job though of just being deranged.


Who else do you think might show up before the season ends? (And this is a lot coming from me cause I was raised as a Marvel girl.)
 
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