Ray Rice video punching then-fiancee emerges

[wiZe]

I've done that and more. You have weak boys who hit women. Ray rice wad dead wrong. I hope he never works in the league ever again. I'm sure dudes on here are caping for ray yet they have daughters also which is sickening.

Though we agree that his actions are horrific, we differ in that I don't wish for this man's livelihood to be erased. By all accounts, before and after this incident, Ray has been a model citizen on and off the field. Do you know of reports of different? People make mistakes.

Let's all on bgol commit to either working in our family or with a shelter to teach ladies how to watch for signs of an aggressor. Let's play roles in young ladies' lives who are not related to us. Let's show them the type of peaceful men they should look for. I'm not trying to the self-righteous judge of Ray's action like you and others. I am saying lets react the way we should have in FEBRUARY when JANAY and RAY told us what happened. Fuck waiting for the media or a vid to tell us its time to react.

And yes, negro, I have a daughter. I won't let her be around people that smoke and drink because I don't. That's one way to try to minimize situations like this. I open the car door for her and her friends and any other woman. I explain why I do it. To make sure she's safely in the car before I am. I enter the house first for the same reasons. These are things that she should look for in a man.

Would you stop being friends or relatives with a guy who hit a woman once but otherwise was a model citizen? Would you call for his head? Would you wish penury on him? What if he were your brother? What would your reaction be?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

The if this was a white woman thing isn't true. Because when that dude choked that white woman chef he was plastered and blasted all over for it.

And i just heard Mrs. Rice's father is supporting Ray Rice. Well. . Well. Ok.

I don't remember that.

that is incredibly frustrating.

Somebody needs to come out and support her. He did what he did, he needs to get himself right so that it never happens again.

 

[code_pirahna]

cotdamn Janay s a thick muthafucka.......shit....

 

[Ninja05]

cotdamn Janay s a thick muthafucka.......shit....

only on bgol...

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Couple things.

I already agreed he shouldn't have done it shouldn't have given them ammo.

Next me saying the media doesn't let him off the hook, both of those things are entirely true...the icons, you know this and i know this. He is not the 1st person to be in domestic violence situations but he is being made the poster person for it. as she is being made the face of it im not defending ANYONE in saying that i am saying its what's happening to project that image out there... one that shouldn't have had a chance to be out there in the 1st place. I am not saying nor have i said the media is making anything up i havent' said anything about the media absolving any sort of responsibility for ray rice. have not said it and will not say it but pointing out shit that they are doing is NOT wrong. either we're going to be aware and talk about it all or we're not.


As far as 1st time or not, i don't really know if that's relevant. he shouldn't have done it period that's where i am with that.

And to your last point we've never needed them to interject themselves but they do it anyway. we do need to do those things, ive been on here everyday for the past month saying we need to support our own..and our own includes and is especially black women.

that's how i feel about it.

None of that i care about because the bottom line IS. He did it. Stop blaming the media.

2. the conspiracy ain't about black men it's about black couples i thought i laid that out perfectly clear.. they want black women to be the face and black men to be the face they want to make THIS couple the example that black couples don't work... for the men and for the women.

It's not the media making black men behave this way. The media didn't put a black face on this. He put his OWN black face on this when he abused that woman. The "it's the media" shit is what i'm talking about. Stop trying to cloud the action. Stop trying to make it not be about him and his actions.

Shit when people say black men need to stop killing each other and then focus on the whites doing it. You dudes jump all up and down screaming and crying talking about "Why you come in here trying to change the subject".

Smh shits hypocritical.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Heres the difference. They are stating their opinion. You are stating a outright lie!

Its their opinion that the media is to blame (personally i havent even seen many of those comments in here honestly but i will assume more than a few exist for sake of argument). You on the other hand are making a factual statement that the evidence in this very thread does not support. Nor is it supported by whats being reported on the news or television pertaining to this incident.

Further, in my post which you quoted i corrected someone else who made a inaccurate statement about the incident so the "ask them" nonsense is just that. And what "them" are you even talking about anyway? The overwhelming majority here and elsewhere have rightfully vilified Ray Rice as scum! Yet you focus on the few who play devils advocate while acting like they represent the masses.

Thats bullshit.

1. So you're saying you're not going to address the point of the other guys in this thread telling OTHER guys that what they're saying is wrong. That's opinion. Ok i can live with that. If you don't want to you don't want to.

2. I didn't read anything in your post except for what was under my name. I was speaking to Lone. And honestly it was a shock to me to see you had responded to me. I was only looking for Bills and Lone to speak to me about my post.

Anything else is shit you made up. My post was about Bills blaming the media. All that other stuff you said is filler for your own self.

 

[rNubb]

If folks didn't feel the need to choose sides then shit could move forward in a smoother fashion.

I said it with Chris and Rihanna and with Ray and Janay. This is a family/community issue that requires understanding and compassion.

Ray Rice is not a monster no matter how many times folks say it and how many people cosign this notion.

Ray Rice did a fucked up thing.

That video showed us what we already knew. Ray hit his girl and his girl was knocked unconscious. Of course it was going to be ugly and brutal and repulsive.

He has no prior history of this sort of behavior neither has he displayed any subsequent behavior. Let them broken folks heal so that we may all learn how to get right.

If we don't take sides then we can ask the necessary questions regarding how they got to that fucked up moment in time.

Then we can work on getting Ray and Janay on the right path.

No one wants Janay to be eating jabs. No one wants Ray to be throwing jabs.

Folks are cheering the tar and feathering of Ray Rice: husband, father and breadwinner.

Name calling, finger pointing and condemnation is pointless. Fuck all this emotionally fueled bashing.

Ray Rice is not a hero. Ray Rice a brother with a major strike on his life. Ray Rice can redeem himself.

Sadly.

These are the faces of domestic violence.

This lil Homo Jew keeps up the devil.

 

[Amajorfucup]

1. So you're saying you're not going to address the point of the other guys in this thread telling OTHER guys that what they're saying is wrong. That's opinion. Ok i can live with that. If you don't want to you don't want to.

2. I didn't read anything in your post except for what was under my name. I was speaking to Lone. And honestly it was a shock to me to see you had responded to me. I was only looking for Bills and Lone to speak to me about my post.

Anything else is shit you made up. My post was about Bills blaming the media. All that other stuff you said is filler for your own self.

You didnt specifically isolate bills with your broad sweeping brush.

You referenced "these dudes" and a spike in "HATE" toward "black men".

I noted and wondered why you were so intent on focusing on those few when the evidence is to the contrary and shows that the majority have categorized Rice as a colossal shitstain and admonished his behavior.

I also find it funny that you made note of her dad supporting Rice but had noting to say about her supporting him or being the most vocal individual who has blamed the "media".

But again, none of that jives with your "HATE" for black men.

And its hilarious that you accuse me to be the one making up shit, when in reality you are doing just that.

As you were...

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

You misinterpreted that whole post.

The question was about his sponsors and the nfl and all of that stuff and why they are dropping the hammer on him now. I am saying that they didn't care about domestic violence
they knew the story, they saw him dragging her out of the elevator and the nfl gave him 2 games, and his endorsements were still there. they did not care about it. it wasn't until the heat came down a few weeks ago that they decided to NOW take a tough stance on domestic violence because back in july they didn't care enough to even suspend him for more than 2 games.

and even then he wasn't cut or anything.

now that the video has surfaced, suddenly his contract is terminated and he's suspended indefinitely and his endorsements are all gone. and that's not because of domestic violence that's because there were no other options..

You didn't specify the "they". You said no one. You said no one gave a fuck about domestic violence.

 

[Amajorfucup]

You didn't specify the "they". You said no one. You said no one gave a fuck about domestic violence.

An argument on specificity coming from the woman using terms like "these dudes" and generalizations like "black men".

 

[l9ikjam]

A insecure bitch socked a dumb bitch and now he has some sorry punk bitches saying he didn't do anything wrong. The only football he will be playing for now on is flag ffootball.glad his punk ass wasn't on my fantasy team.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

You didn't specify the "they". You said no one. You said no one gave a fuck about domestic violence.

Then that is my fault. That is who I was talking bout. the they is the people who are now punishing him after the fact. The nfl the ravens and the people that paid him to endorse products didn't feel it was worth everything they're doing now from Feb to September.

 

[Complex]

Goodell is speaking tonight to CBS

So Obama spoke on it before Goodell

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

You didnt specifically isolate bills with your broad sweeping brush.

I didn't.

You referenced "these dudes" and a spike in "HATE" toward "black men".

Definitely a spike there. Then i have to relax and realize these men are just as much a victim of the shit as we are. But that doesn't happen immediately. The spike in hatred for "you" all is still happens. And the reason it mostly happens is seeing how you guys speak of women and the things that happen here. You seemed to not have read that part. For some reason.

I noted and wondered why you were so intent on focusing on those few when the evidence is to the contrary and shows that the majority have categorized Rice as a colossal shitstain and admonished his behavior.

I have known for a minute, that you guys don't see what women see. UNTIL it happens to you.

I also find it funny that you made note of her dad supporting Rice but had noting to say about her supporting him or being the most vocal individual who has blamed the "media".

She's a victim. She's been abused. I spoke on that already in this thread. Twice really. Her father. Her main protector in this word. Supports his daughters abuser. Knowing my husband since we were 16 yrs old. Knowing the man he grew to be. Knowing the men in my extended family? The men who raised him to be how he was? There's no way in hell he'd support that. as a matter of fact i don't imagine Ray Rice not needing to be put in witness protection. Whether you believe it or not? The fact is the life of a female just isn't valued much to most men in this society.

But again, none of that jives with your "HATE" for black men.

And its hilarious that you accuse me to be the one making up shit, when in reality you are doing just that.

As you were...

It jives totally. You just can't see it. Or you more than likely choose not too.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Goodell is speaking tonight to CBS

So Obama spoke on it before Goodell

At every step he has only done what the public dictated and not what was "morally" correct.

 

[LSN]

Goodell is speaking tonight to CBS

So Obama spoke on it before Goodell

the hell he needs to speak on CBS...nigga ain't the president...he better be announcing he's stepping down wtf

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Then that is my fault. That is who I was talking bout. the they is the people who are now punishing him after the fact. The nfl the ravens and the people that paid him to endorse products didn't feel it was worth everything they're doing now from Feb to September.

Your issue that i've always spoken about, has always been you don't see the enormity of it. You don't see the enormity of hate that women get. You see the institutionalized racism. But you don't see the institutionalized sexism.

You don't see the infantilism of the woman. You don't see the dehumanization of the woman. It never occurs to you guys that the same issues black people face. Are the same issues that women face. I get just as angry at women basically enjoying infantilization as the men who DO it.

They are part of the system that shits on our gender. They're the ones who shit on black men for their being. Women at LARGE DO see it. And they DO CARE. But women at large feel helpless AGAINST it.

Just like you have black men who feel helpless against the inherent racism in the society itself.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Your issue that i've always spoken about, has always been you don't see the enormity of it. You don't see the enormity of hate that women get. You see the institutionalized racism. But you don't see the institutionalized sexism.

You don't see the infantilism of the woman. You don't see the dehumanization of the woman. It never occurs to you guys that the same issues black people face. Are the same issues that women face. I get just as angry at women basically enjoying infantilization as the men who DO it.

They are part of the system that shits on our gender. They're the ones who shit on black men for their being. Women at LARGE DO see it. And they DO CARE. But women at large feel helpless AGAINST it.

Just like you have black men who feel helpless against the inherent racism in the society itself.

I disagree for various reasons about me not seeing. I see it. We'll talk though.

 

[LSN]

a lot of idiots in this thread are literally defending him...some are even finding a way to spin it and blame "cacs" such as goodell and the TMZ dude and in the same breath saying rice just made a mistake and literally downplaying what he did...when threads get this stupid...I just read a couple comments and bounce...this is not on you...I haven't read your comments on the situation but I've already seen a few stupid posts already from other cats in here along the lines of what I'm saying

Who is defending Ray Rice tho?

 

[Amajorfucup]

I didn't.

Glad you atleast admitted that.

Definitely a spike there. Then i have to relax and realize these men are just as much a victim of the shit as we are. But that doesn't happen immediately. The spike in hatred for "you" all is still happens. And the reason it mostly happens is seeing how you guys speak of women and the things that happen here. You seemed to not have read that part. For some reason.

I think what you need to realize is that the few dont represent the many. You seem to have alot of disdain for the gender in general and cherrypick the opinions of the moronic to justify your distaste for the masses. Not cool, or honest.

I have known for a minute, that you guys don't see what women see. UNTIL it happens to you.

Yea, but that has little to do with bm vs bw and more to do with experiencing a tragedy vs witnessing or hearing about it. Those perspectives will always differ. That doesnt negate ones ability to sympathize or empathize.

She's a victim. She's been abused. I spoke on that already in this thread. Twice really. Her father. Her main protector in this word. Supports his daughters abuser. Knowing my husband since we were 16 yrs old. Knowing the man he grew to be. Knowing the men in my extended family? The men who raised him to be how he was? There's no way in hell he'd support that. as a matter of fact i don't imagine Ray Rice not needing to be put in witness protection. Whether you believe it or not? The fact is the life of a female just isn't valued much to most men in this society.

Ok. I missed the post where you addressed it. And i dont disagree.

It jives totally. You just can't see it. Or you more than likely choose not too.

Nothing more than an attempt to explain away your hypocrisy. I stand by my original point; Your generalizations are in direct contradiction with reality (atleast on this matter).

 

[Ing4life]

Its funny how no one feels sorry the victim but everyone says abuse is just wrong. The chick got banged in head and lost her multi million dollar payday when she would decide to leave him. When she married the dude, everyone and ray knew she was going to leave in a couple of years.

 

[wiZe]

If folks didn't feel the need to choose sides then shit could move forward in a smoother fashion.



I said it with Chris and Rihanna and with Ray and Janay. This is a family/community issue that requires understanding and compassion.



Ray Rice is not a monster no matter how many times folks say it and how many people cosign this notion.



Ray Rice did a fucked up thing.



That video showed us what we already knew. Ray hit his girl and his girl was knocked unconscious. Of course it was going to be ugly and brutal and repulsive.



He has no prior history of this sort of behavior neither has he displayed any subsequent behavior. Let them broken folks heal so that we may all learn how to get right.



If we don't take sides then we can ask the necessary questions regarding how they got to that fucked up moment in time.



Then we can work on getting Ray and Janay on the right path.



No one wants Janay to be eating jabs. No one wants Ray to be throwing jabs.



Folks are cheering the tar and feathering of Ray Rice: husband, father and breadwinner.



Name calling, finger pointing and condemnation is pointless. Fuck all this emotionally fueled bashing.



Ray Rice is not a hero. Ray Rice a brother with a major strike on his life. Ray Rice can redeem himself.



Sadly.



These are the faces of domestic violence.

This lil Homo Jew keeps up the devil.

They not trying to hear you, bro.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Its funny how no one feels sorry the victim but everyone says abuse is just wrong. The chick got banged in head and lost her multi million dollar payday when she would decide to leave him. When she married the dude, everyone and ray knew she was going to leave in a couple of years.

Example.

 

[DingoMan]

http://clickspark.it/maryland-wedding-videographer-ray-rice-janay-we-made-it/

 

[three-fifths]

i'd bet my life that this fearful, black fool would not punch out the white slavemaster; the very same white man who once owned him, raped his mother and lynched his father from one end of the this continent to the other.

the so-called black, so-called man will forever remain a coward.

 

[avantastic]

Damn Nike dropped him and EA taking him off Madden.

 

[geechiedan]

a lot of idiots in this thread are literally defending him...some are even finding a way to spin it and blame "cacs" such as goodell and the TMZ dude and in the same breath saying rice just made a mistake and literally downplaying what he did...when threads get this stupid...I just read a couple comments and bounce...this is not on you...I haven't read your comments on the situation but I've already seen a few stupid posts already from other cats in here along the lines of what I'm saying

wow...play the lottery tonight.. I agree with you

there are cats in here that are more concerned about his earning potential more than the fact that he hit a woman like mike tyson.

When Mike Vick was being demonized for dog fighting I thought the level and degree people were taking it was ridiculous becuz dogs AREN'T people..I didn't approve of it but I didn't act like he was the second coming of hitler either. But this dude Teeing off on his woman is DIFFERENT...women have to be protected from that kind of violence..BLACK WOMEN have to be protected from that kind of violence. And ANY supposed "black man" who thinks "thats those folks business" isn't a MAN at all.

tell you what...if janay was dealing with a white man would heads be caring about his earning potential and going to jail??

 

[Mr. Met]

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[Heavenlywings77]

Thats their issues, cant say whats right or wrong about no one elses shit but my own.

 

[l9ikjam]

Its funny how no one feels sorry the victim but everyone says abuse is just wrong. The chick got banged in head and lost her multi million dollar payday when she would decide to leave him. When she married the dude, everyone and ray knew she was going to leave in a couple of years.

I think if she would have left him people would see her as a victim but since she decided to marry him after he Chris Brown her ass people said fuck her

 

[LSN]

dude spit on her punched her unconscious then dragged her like a dog...dudes talking about damn they did him dirty I hope he saved his $$$ I def need to take a break when I'm agreeing w/ you and lonestar and I already played my #s...as usual my fingers are crossed and hope I win so I can tell these cacs @ work kiss my ass

wow...play the lottery tonight.. I agree with you

there are cats in here that are more concerned about his earning potential more than the fact that he hit a woman like mike tyson.

When Mike Vick was being demonized for dog fighting I thought the level and degree people were taking it was ridiculous becuz dogs AREN'T people..I didn't approve of it but I didn't act like he was the second coming of hitler either. But this dude Teeing off on his woman is DIFFERENT...women have to be protected from that kind of violence..BLACK WOMEN have to be protected from that kind of violence. And ANY supposed "black man" who thinks "thats those folks business" isn't a MAN at all.

tell you what...if janay was dealing with a white man would heads be caring about his earning potential and going to jail??

 

[LSN]

Damn Nike dropped him and EA taking him off Madden.

well technically he not on the team so the madden shit make sense and the nike shit is obvious...I'm amazed @ how some of y'all are shocked and dismayed by this but all blahzay about what he did to that chic

 

[big pimp]

Fuck TMZ them cac dont say shit When Mel Gibson punch his wife in the face while she was holding kid. Charlie sheen was beating women all the time.

 

[BlueCarpetTreatment]

Who is defending him? What happen was fucked on his part, but to totally discount her is blind fury. All I'm saying is we don't know the whole got damn story, which we don't. If he beats her like that all the time our even more than that then he deserves to get his balls cut off, but if she commits violent acts against him as well then she needs to take some flack as well. We don't know how their relationship works and all this speculation off this one video is beyond ridiculous. People need to be objective instead of subjective. That is the problem with this while situation. We condemn him but we don't know everything.

 

[big pimp]

Obama got on his tap dance shoes. Obama don't say shit when cops shooting black people.