Ray Rice video punching then-fiancee emerges

They always said many potential heavyweight champions are playing in the NFL

The reason why heavyweight boxing is dead

That left hook proved that point once again
 
Which one of you niggas picked up Rice in fantasy football? :lol:

I picked him up in a few leagues. Supposedly, the matter was resolved until today. It is no biggie. I dropped him and placed waiver claims on other running backs. Besides, the waiver wire wins championships anyways. *shrugs*
 
Here's the thing that's really confusing for me...

If Goodell really did see this video and knew it existed. Then he had to know it would be leaked at some point and what the public outrage would be. And, if so...why wouldn't he get out ahead before that?

It just makes no sense that he would see this video, know it would be released, and only give Rice two games?!?!

I just don't get it...

Especially, with knowing the Revel Casino was closing soon and that would mean whoever had that tape could sell it without having to worry about losing their job.

Something just isn't adding up...
 
Solange.... when she was going after Jay Z and trying to hit him for apparently (cause I have no idea if he had done something to her or not, pre-elevator) no reason. That was straight up provocation, and although I'm glad he didn't react physically, he would have been justified if he had.

In the Ray Rice case, it at least looks like he is the one who took he first step by spitting on her. She came at him, but he started the ball rolling, so unlike Solange, I can't say that she provoked him. Even if some shit had happened 5 minutes earlier, what happened in the elevator is on him.

If you're a mature adult person. No one should be able to provoke you. Saying that you as a group can be provoked. :smh: You provoke animals and children. Things that can't control themselves. Things that aren't reasonable. This "provoke a man" Shit is bullshit and just serves as an excuse. Solange was a crazy woman. Embarrassed herself and her family. She should be ashamed and if it was me i'd have pressed charges on her ass. Jay Z handled it like an adult so far as i could tell.
 
Here's the thing that's really confusing for me...

If Goodell really did see this video and knew it existed. Then he had to know it would be leaked at some point and what the public outrage would be. And, if so...why wouldn't he get out ahead before that?

It just makes no sense that he would see this video, know it would be released, and only give Rice two games?!?!

I just don't get it...

Especially, with knowing the Revel Casino was closing soon and that would mean whoever had that tape could sell it without having to worry about losing their job.

Something just isn't adding up...

With all the money and resources the nfl has, how is it possible that they couldn't have seen the tape at this point? What they hoped was that it would be swept under the rug. this happened in feb, suspended in july it's now september, they were counting on the news cycle naturally washing this story away over a 7 month span.


bare minimum if he didn't see the tape but got the description of the incident it should have been 6-8 games.

the arrogance and the fact he didn't CARE about domestic violence the fact that he ONLY CARES about drug policy is why this got 2 games.

Rice got married, the lady forgave him, they got counseling, he wasn't charged.

as far as roger was concerned it was closed and he would give his old buddy the ravens owner a break and toss em 2 games. that's exactly what happened.

NOTICE

when the backlash hit, he just said OK we're going to make a new policy a tougher one.. but he did not retroactively apply it to ray rice... because ray rice wasn't the problem.. the perception was the problem...

we see it's a load of bullshit because he retroactively suspended him today didn't he?
 
And he spits in her face twice peep the video again straight disrespectful. Hope he saved some money.
 
We agree that Jay Z did the best thing in that case. ...but if you believe that a mature person can't be provoked, you're just wrong and that's all there is to it. If you're walking down the street with your man and your 3 year old kid and somebody walks by and purposely knees the kid in the chest... would you call your man immature for going after that person? No need for an answer as I really don't want to derail the thread... suffice it to say, provocation happens... that's why self defense is an actual legal defense. Case closed.



If you're a mature adult person. No one should be able to provoke you. Saying that you as a group can be provoked. :smh: You provoke animals and children. Things that can't control themselves. Things that aren't reasonable. This "provoke a man" Shit is bullshit and just serves as an excuse. Solange was a crazy woman. Embarrassed herself and her family. She should be ashamed and if it was me i'd have pressed charges on her ass. Jay Z handled it like an adult so far as i could tell.
 
Hope he saved some money.

I could give 2 shits about what he has saved...I'm out here working hard everyday and living my life by the book for the most part for a mere fraction of what he's made/earned...I ain't gonna wish broke on nobody but @ the same time I'm not gonna act like I give a fuck about his finances either...shit has nothing to do w/ my life...he can run w/ a football...good for him...too bad he fucked it up
 
Provocation happens to animals and children. Adults who can control themselves? No. You're either an adult in control of yourself or you're animal or a child. My objection is to the fall back used by men here lately talking about "she provoked me".

No. You lack control of yourself.
 
idk about goddell but someone was telling me the ravens owner knew about it and the higher ups in the organization is who orchestrated rice and his chic getting married to squash the shit

Here's the thing that's really confusing for me...

If Goodell really did see this video and knew it existed. Then he had to know it would be leaked at some point and what the public outrage would be. And, if so...why wouldn't he get out ahead before that?

It just makes no sense that he would see this video, know it would be released, and only give Rice two games?!?!

I just don't get it...

Especially, with knowing the Revel Casino was closing soon and that would mean whoever had that tape could sell it without having to worry about losing their job.

Something just isn't adding up...
 
With all the money and resources the nfl has, how is it possible that they couldn't have seen the tape at this point? What they hoped was that it would be swept under the rug. this happened in feb, suspended in july it's now september, they were counting on the news cycle naturally washing this story away over a 7 month span.


bare minimum if he didn't see the tape but got the description of the incident it should have been 6-8 games.

the arrogance and the fact he didn't CARE about domestic violence the fact that he ONLY CARES about drug policy is why this got 2 games.

Rice got married, the lady forgave him, they got counseling, he wasn't charged.

as far as roger was concerned it was closed and he would give his old buddy the ravens owner a break and toss em 2 games. that's exactly what happened.

NOTICE

when the backlash hit, he just said OK we're going to make a new policy a tougher one.. but he did not retroactively apply it to ray rice... because ray rice wasn't the problem.. the perception was the problem...

we see it's a load of bullshit because he retroactively suspended him today didn't he?

Maybe you're right and he doesn't care about domestic violence but he had to know what the public would think about it!

As a business man who's every action is about protecting the NFL's bottom line...how could he see that video and not think that it would be leaked and what the reaction would be?

If he didn't...someone else working with him had to bring that scenario up as an option.

I don't like Goodell. Never have, never will. However, it just makes no sense that he would set his himself up to fail like this.
 
Your opinion is noted, but it's still wrong. I have really good control of myself, but if someone comes at me violently, i'm going to protect myself and put them down. I'm going to control myself by not killing them. Your objection to to that fall back may hold some weight in certain cases (like the Ray Rice case) but not as much in others. ...and when you suggest that only animals and children can be provoked... it's just laughable.


Provocation happens to animals and children. Adults who can control themselves? No. You're either an adult in control of yourself or you're animal or a child. My objection is to the fall back used by men here lately talking about "she provoked me".

No. You lack control of yourself.
 
idk about goddell but someone was telling me the ravens owner knew about it and the higher ups in the organization is who orchestrated rice and his chic getting married to squash the shit

That's bullshit!

They were scheduled to get married on that date before the incident.

This was known that they were getting married in the circles of the Ravens and their fans.
 
If he actually saw the vid before today.... I can't see him keeping his job.


Here's the thing that's really confusing for me...

If Goodell really did see this video and knew it existed. Then he had to know it would be leaked at some point and what the public outrage would be. And, if so...why wouldn't he get out ahead before that?

It just makes no sense that he would see this video, know it would be released, and only give Rice two games?!?!

I just don't get it...

Especially, with knowing the Revel Casino was closing soon and that would mean whoever had that tape could sell it without having to worry about losing their job.

Something just isn't adding up...
 
I disagree...some cac call me a ****** that shit would roll off my skin...but if somebody did what rice did to someone I know that shit would fuck w/ me more...and he did more than just hit her...he spit on her...punched her out cold...then dragged her unconscious body when he's easily strong enough to lift her...indicating no remorse for what he did

Why wasn't that cac Riley Cooper banned for life or at least banned for the season. What he did was even more offensive IMO than a nigga hitting a bitch one time.
 
Regardless, why are niggas acting like he was caught on video raping a child? I understand public relations, NFL image, etc, but plenty of people in the NFL fucked up before. He beat his wife, but she forgave him, married him, and is still with him... If she can forgive him, why are niggas going ape shit?

He fucked up, pay a fair price and keep it moving. All of this extreme discipline is fucked up. Why wasn't that cac Riley Cooper banned for life or at least banned for the season. What he did was even more offensive IMO than a nigga hitting a bitch one time. I could understand if Rice stomped the bitch out, but I couldn't even see a punch thrown in slow motion.

So in other words, if you insult blacks and call them ni66ers, even though about 80% of the league is black it's all good... You throw one jab at a bitch and it's the end of the world... Nigga please...

The reason that this situation is different is because it was captured on video and to most people...it's appalling.

It's unprecedented territory. No athlete has ever had such a damming video released against him and in the world of big business....your bottom line is everything and the NFL nor the Ravens are going to sit back and jeopardize their money over the public relations FIRESTORM this situation would bring if Ray Rice were to keep playing.
 
I'm not stating it as a fact...just something I heard someone say

That's bullshit!

They were scheduled to get married on that date before the incident.

This was known that they were getting married in the circles of the Ravens and their fans.
 
Maybe you're right and he doesn't care about domestic violence but he had to know what the public would think about it!

As a business man who's every action is about protecting the NFL's bottom line...how could he see that video and not think that it would be leaked and what the reaction would be?

If he didn't...someone else working with him had to bring that scenario up as an option.

I don't like Goodell. Never have, never will. However, it just makes no sense that he would set his himself up to fail like this.

It also makes no sense given how big this could have been and how it leaked in the first place with ray rice dragging her out of the elevator.. that he couldn't get his hands on this tape.

Tmz can get their hands on this tape but the NFL couldn't?
 
Ray Rice shouldn't be in the NFL. The Baltimore Ravens is my team but there is no excuse for that type of behavior coming from an NFL player. The NFL should reevaluate his case and ban him from the league.
 
I thought some guys on BGOL said the video was supposed to show her attacking him and then when he pushed her off she hit her head and that's how she got knocked out:cool:

WTF, first dudes were saying "i wanna see the video from the elevator, blah blah" now that the elevator footage is out dudes now saying "ohh now i wanna see video from before they got in the elevator". They get in the elevator, Rice is all in her face, SPITS in her face and then swings on her, knocking her, next he drags her out of the elevator and instead of moving her leg he KICKS IT. Come on man what else do you need to see:smh::smh:

Dudes were going hard defending dude and blaming her :smh:

I thought there was only a 6 game ban for a first offense.

rules? Has Goodell ever been concerned about rules or precedent?

so what was the point of TMZ releasing the vid??

Were you serious :confused:
 
That's gonna be one uncomfortable talk tonight between Ray Rice and his wife :smh::lol:
Bitch probably gonna divorce him now with no NFL money in his future
 
Ray Rice shouldn't be in the NFL. The Baltimore Ravens is my team but there is no excuse for that type of behavior coming from an NFL player. The NFL should reevaluate his case and ban him from the league.


Supposedly all teams have been told any deals involving him won't be approved
 
Ur personal life is ur personal life...the twitter generation r giving corporations to much power....2nd zero tolerance doesnot work in any form of society..3rd where was the outcry for domestic violence charge against Solange...See how hypocritical critical twitter has made everyone
 
Ur personal life is ur personal life...the twitter generation r giving corporations to much power....2nd zero tolerance doesnot work in any form of society..3rd where was the outcry for domestic violence charge against Solange...See how hypocritical critical twitter has made everyone

Stop Smokin...
 
It also makes no sense given how big this could have been and how it leaked in the first place with ray rice dragging her out of the elevator.. that he couldn't get his hands on this tape.

Tmz can get their hands on this tape but the NFL couldn't?

Keep in mind that casino (The Revel) just closed down last week and whoever had the tape knew they could sell without fear of losing their job.

None of this just makes much sense...
 
1. This is likely to cause a whole new round of debate. But if there's anyone who's ready for a knockdown-drag out fight, it's Ray Rice.

2. The handrail in the elevator has also expressed regret for its involvement.

That's why she still married the nigga after this..that rail knocked whatever sense she had out of her to never be returned.
 
Keep in mind that casino (The Revel) just closed down last week and whoever had the tape knew they could sell without fear of losing their job.

None of this just makes much sense...

Yea NFL loses either way

either there was a tape out there they saw and gave rice that punishment cause that's how they TRULY felt.

OR

we need to call into question every single "investigation" they have run to see if ALL of the evidence and facts were present before decisions.. this was the most vital piece of evidence in the ray rice situation.

so either they saw it and judged it and said 2 games

or

they didn't really give a fuck about it enough to do their job and gather all the facts before they made the decision.

there's no excuse for tmz to have it and the nfl couldn't get a hold of it.. none.
 
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