~*~2014 NBA OffSeason Thread - Free Agency Starts - 7/1 12am ~*~

[therealjondoe]

Unless he's copped the Flux Capacitor that Prime Time D Wade is dead and gone. The Wade I'M talking about, the one that disappears in big key games was like 6 for 30 the last two games of the finals when they needed him the most and was largely ineffective the entire series so...

Where was Lebron in the finals vs Dallas
See i can do that too.
Wade shot a career high.%
He's learning to adjust his game.
Still one of the best SG
Check his averages
Nobody was beating that spurs team last year.

 

[AllState17]

Just like Houston is best for Bosh, Cleveland is best for Lebron

Chicago is best for Melo and it doesn't look like he's going

Why is Chicago best for Melo?

I think Houston is by far his best option.

 

[Complex]

Still stuck on star power huh.
The roleplayers don't have to be superstars.
As proven with back to back championships

You had Mike Miller, Ray Allen, Birdman

They won you games.

Haslem provided toughness

Do you realize how old these dudes are? Ray Allen is about to be 39.

Where are your role players now?

I've known McBob since he was a dookie.
Did you see Granger after he came back from injury and after he went to the Clippers?

 

[therealjondoe]

So what did the Role Players AND their Star players prove during the most recent historic beat down

Oh so we are supposed to win the championship every year
Unprecedented but ok

 

[lazarus]

Yeah, but ok, Wade is always hurt and disappears in key games, Bosh is under utilized, and with the core of the team possibly coming back, they were just historically destroyed in the finals! Like I said, short term, Miami possibly, however, long term, Wiggins is going to get better, they have 3 lottery picks next year, and they have a nice young nucleus, plus, with Kyrie, LeBron won't have to do so much ball handling, and with Wiggins, he will have defensive help on the wings...

So, again, who does Miami have, especially anywhere near their prime that is a stud, beside LeBron and underutilized Bosh? McRoberts? Granger?

I get it, you are trying to downplay a team, but this team can make the eastern finals again. you cant say that with this Cleveland team and a coach who has never coached in the nba.

all these commentators need to shut up. you think lebrons camp is telling Broussard, hey let everyone know what team im going before im ready to say it myself Broussard don't know shit or he is going force fed bs for smoke and mirrors. im not even address Sheridan who LeBron hates. now his camp told him where he's going to go days away from the decision. "LeBron knows where he's going to go, but he's going to wait a couple days for no reason and let you tell people"

come on

 

[Complex]

Why is Chicago best for Melo?

I think Houston is by far his best option.

Who's going to pass the ball, Harden to Melo?

And if Dwight was upset about getting touches in D'Antoni's offense.

Melo is also one of the best catch and shoot jump shooters in the league, which is perfect if D Rose can get through a season.

Even without Rose add Melo to team they had last year and they're probably a eastern conference finals team.

 

[BDR]

Unless he's copped the Flux Capacitor that Prime Time D Wade is dead and gone. The Wade I'M talking about, the one that disappears in big key games was like 6 for 30 the last two games of the finals when they needed him the most and was largely ineffective the entire series so...


You've got to perform today, your past career accomplishments don't get you a free pass!

I would still take wade over anyone on Cleveland in a key game situation.. His bball IQ is higher than all those dudes on the cavs lol

Prime example ninjas falling for that dumb ass pump fake

 

[Winslow Wong]

Where was Lebron in the finals vs Dallas
See i can do that too.
Wade shot a career high.%
He's learning to adjust his game.
Still one of the best SG
Check his averages
Nobody was beating that spurs team last year.

I have no dog in this fight but I remember last year people saying that Ginobuli came up short - he needed to retire - he failed the Spurs -

A year later, he had an incredible playoff series - so from a basketball perspective - if they made Wade a sixth man - limit his minutes and adjust the game to utilize his core strengths on a shorter term basis - he could revive the perception people have of him and off course the Heat has to WIN (w/Lebron and Bosh).

 

[AwwDamn]

Where was Lebron in the finals vs Dallas
See i can do that too.
Wade shot a career high.%
He's learning to adjust his game.
Still one of the best SG
Check his averages
Nobody was beating that spurs team last year.

You guys remind me of when Tyson got out of Jail and the crew was always hyped, spending money on his fights gassed up only for him to get knocked out! D Wade isn't even a top 10 SG in the league at this point, no way a player who has to platoon deserves that designation. Plus, like I said before, he was like 6 for 30 in the close out games. LeBron has only gotten better, D Wades is health a fall off reasons not a bad series. He's been falling off for the past few seasons bruh. Why wouldn't LeBron want to go to a young team who's best days are ahead of them, than a team full of aging players who have already failed him. And even in the series they won, the Spurs outplayed them, the ball just bounced their way... Its over for D Wade as an elite player bruh...

 

[Complex]

I get it, you are trying to downplay a team, but this team can make the eastern finals again. you cant say that with this Cleveland team and a coach who has never coached in the nba.

all these commentators need to shut up. you think lebrons camp is telling Broussard, hey let everyone know what team im going before im ready to say it myself Broussard don't know shit or he is going force fed bs for smoke and mirrors. im not even address Sheridan who LeBron hates. now his camp told him where he's going to go days away from the decision. "LeBron knows where he's going to go, but he's going to wait a couple days for no reason and let you tell people"

come on

Who would beat Lebron with Cleveland in the east?

Chicago without Melo?
Brooklyn?
Toronto?
Indiana probably without Lance?
Washington?

And if they get Kevin Love there is no way in hell anybody beats them in the east.

 

[lazarus]

Someone in marketing has to explain that this is not the right way to do it if he is not going back to Cleveland - all the speculation is being fueled by people on "his team" including his agent - if should have just ruled Cleveland out from the beginning - I mean people from Cleveland were starting to have good feelings about him again - he continued to make Akron his home and he has done a lot for charity there but this I might be coming back is BS if he isnt. This will be viewed far worse than the Decision and he has not said a word but that is worse than if he said I am not going to Cleveland - Hopes dashed is far worse than anything else. he can not be that sheltered or oblivious to what is going on in Ohio or around the country.

its not his fault people have faith for no reason. he never even said he considered Cleveland. people getting mad that he didn't participate in their dreams. he never even met with the team! he hates the owner too. don't you think he would meet with the new coach as well?

is just a dream people have and they want it to be true so bad.

but LeBron is at his camp in vegas with wade by his side.

 

[BDR]

Ever since reposting that fake ass tweet Chris Sheridan been might quiet especially when he said a decision was coming 7pm yesterday

He is going to be roasted to no return if Bron don't go to Cleveland

 

[therealjondoe]

Who would beat Lebron with Cleveland in the east?

Chicago without Melo?
Brooklyn?
Toronto?
Indiana probably without Lance?
Washington?

And if they get Kevin Love there is no way in hell anybody beats them in the east.

Indiana would beat them
Possibly Chicago

 

[FJP]

Long term Cleveland is better but if he signing for 2 years Miami is better. Give me broke down Wade and Chris Bosh over Kyrie and Love.

 

[BDR]

Who would beat Lebron with Cleveland in the east?

Chicago without Melo?
Brooklyn?
Toronto?
Indiana probably without Lance?
Washington?

And if they get Kevin Love there is no way in hell anybody beats them in the east.

Indiana as presently constructed

 

[AwwDamn]

Long term Cleveland is better but if he signing for 2 years Miami is better. Give me broke down Wade and Chris Bosh over Kyrie and Love.

 

[Complex]

Indiana would beat them
Possibly Chicago

Chicago can't score. Rose would have to be back at MVP level, and they aren't very deep. Plus they're unproven with McDermott and the foreign kid.

Indiana? That Indiana team we saw in the playoffs? And a Indiana team without Lance? Lebron nullifies Paul George.

 

[lazarus]

Who would beat Lebron with Cleveland in the east?

Chicago without Melo?
Brooklyn?
Toronto?
Indiana probably without Lance?
Washington?

And if they get Kevin Love there is no way in hell anybody beats them in the east.

If they get love, I will concede. that's just good off season trading. but line up as is, shiiiiit

Indiana would whup that ass. besides LeBron, them other guys would get destroyed by grown men.

new York with calderon and if they get gasol? beatdown against cle

Chicago would get in that ass too. Bennett and kyrie are two of the worst efficient players in the league. noah would school that young post.

 

[asiam]

Where was Lebron in the finals vs Dallas
See i can do that too.
Wade shot a career high.%
He's learning to adjust his game.
Still one of the best SG
Check his averages
Nobody was beating that spurs team last year.

Lebron can carry a team on his own. Wade could never carry a team on his own. Lebron carried Miami for years now. Bosh is way over rated. Lebron at different points this playoffs and all the playoffs has had to cover for wade and bosh.

Miami is a 40 win team with no Lebron.

 

[curryshotta]

Wade will never be healthy in June again. I thought he might have to actually become leaner because it might be less stressful on his knees.

Or actually try to become a competent 3pt shooter...or post up far more often. but heavy slashing..no way

I also watched Wade play some of the worst transition defense I have ever seen in my life in the finals.

As for Wade being a sixth man...na...ego and salary dictate he remains a starter. What would be useful is if he didnt miss 30 games.

They overdid that maintenance program bullshit last year.

But Wade is teflon so......

 

[therealjondoe]

Lebron can carry a team on his own. Wade could never carry a team on his own. Lebron carried Miami for years now. Bosh is way over rated. Lebron at different points this playoffs and all the playoffs has had to cover for wade and bosh.

Miami is a 40 win team with no Lebron.

Bosh is not overrated.
What's Cleveland without Lebron, oh yea a lottery team with a rookie head coach and an asshole owner

 

[gene cisco]

Ever since reposting that fake ass tweet Chris Sheridan been might quiet especially when he said a decision was coming 7pm yesterday

He is going to be roasted to no return if Bron don't go to Cleveland

Sheeeeeit. He hasn't been quiet. Today he posted what was supposedly talked about in the Riley meeting. He has been on radio shows today talking big shit about being 100 percent sure.

How a cat can be 100 percent sure Lebron is coming back to Cleveland and get into it with hosts on a Cleveland radio show is beyond me, but Sheridan did it.

 

[Complex]

Indiana as presently constructed

The Indiana team you shitted on the whole year?

Pacers are about to get weaker without Lance.

David West is about to be 34

They made no major moves(CJ Miles) and didn't draft anyone.

 

[BDR]

Wade will never be healthy in June again. I thought he might have to actually become leaner because it might be less stressful on his knees.

Or actually try to become a competent 3pt shooter...or post up far more often. but heavy slashing..no way

I also watched Wade play some of the worst transition defense I have ever seen in my life in the finals.

As for Wade being a sixth man...na...ego and salary dictate he remains a starter. What would be useful is if he didnt miss 30 games.

They overdid that maintenance program bullshit last year.

But Wade is teflon so......

How u like Ennis in summer league so far and Napier dispite his 2 shitty games ?

 

[lazarus]

Chicago can't score. Rose would have to be back at MVP level, and they aren't very deep. Plus they're unproven with McDermott and the foreign kid.

Indiana? That Indiana team we saw in the playoffs? And a Indiana team without Lance? Lebron nullifies Paul George.

both teams made the playoffs last year. chi without rose. with him at decent would wipe the floor of cle.

kyrie - ball hog that takes an excessive amt of shoots for pts, cant hit from the outside, poor defense
Bennett- one of the worse #1 picks ever. garbage
wiggins - unproven first yr in league and doesn't have killer instinct
varejo-decent big with no offensive production

vs

cole/chalmers - small guards that cant shoot shit, worthless
wade-aging superstar, still can put up 15-18 when healthy
bosh - inside/outside player that can cause mismatches for any big and opens the lane for LeBron
mcrob - team player that can stretch defense and score off picks and roll

that mia team wins 54-57 1-3 seed
that cle team wins 45-50 4-6 seed

experience: mia
coach: mia
friendships: mia
organization: mia

 

[AwwDamn]

Wade will never be healthy in June again. I thought he might have to actually become leaner because it might be less stressful on his knees.

Or actually try to become a competent 3pt shooter...or post up far more often. but heavy slashing..no way

I also watched Wade play some of the worst transition defense I have ever seen in my life in the finals.

As for Wade being a sixth man...na...ego and salary dictate he remains a starter. What would be useful is if he didnt miss 30 games.

They overdid that maintenance program bullshit last year.

But Wade is teflon so......

Yep. Frankly the big problem with this team is Wade. Declining health and skills but to proud to do whats best for the team and come of the bench or give them 22 minutes a game, preserve his legs for the playoffs. Plus, he needs to take a pay cut so they can use that money to get some better help. Mark my words, the decline of this team will come through this shit right here, D Wade at this point is the weak link. Superstar Prima Donna mind, slightly above average skills and body at this point in his career.

 

[BMan]

This is exactly what I am thinking will happen if Lebron goes back to the Heat. He would sign a 2 year exit clause. If the Heat were to resign most of the roster from last year, and with the addition of McRoberts, Granger, Napier, and Ennis. They would have a better playoff ready team for the next couple years than the Cavs.

Long term Cleveland is better but if he signing for 2 years Miami is better. Give me broke down Wade and Chris Bosh over Kyrie and Love.

 

[Complex]

If they get love, I will concede. that's just good off season trading. but line up as is, shiiiiit

Indiana would whup that ass. besides LeBron, them other guys would get destroyed by grown men.

new York with calderon and if they get gasol? beatdown against cle

Chicago would get in that ass too. Bennett and kyrie are two of the worst efficient players in the league. noah would school that young post.

Did I miss something?

Noah has post moves?

Pau, Melo, Calderon and JR Smith? Is this some sort of a joke?

None of those teams has a player close to Lebron.

 

[therealjondoe]

Yep. Frankly the big problem with this team is Wade. Declining health and skills but to proud to do whats best for the team and come of the bench or give them 22 minutes a game, preserve his legs for the playoffs. Plus, he needs to take a pay cut so they can use that money to get some better help. Mark my words, the decline of this team will come through this shit right here, D Wade at this point is the weak link. Superstar Prima Donna mind, slightly above average skills and body at this point in his career.

He's taking a pay cut

 

[AwwDamn]

You guys do realize that Kyrie's game would change with LeBron on the team right? Bennett, I concede that trash, but Wiggins, defensively he trumps any parameter players you have on that team, and athletically, there is no one close to him except LeBron. With LeBron, he won't be called on to give big numbers, plus, with LeBron and Kyrie he will not be the other teams focus, which makes him more dangerous. The underrated factor is Tristan Thompson, who his a good 4 and compliments the others well. Whole different team and ball game if LeBron comes there...

 

[BDR]

The Indiana team you shitted on the whole year?

Pacers are about to get weaker without Lance.

David West is about to be 34

They made no major moves(CJ Miles) and didn't draft anyone.

Yup the Indiana team I shitted on the whole yr

Who's banging with west in the post? Even Bron couldn't do it for extended times..

Anderson V is not skilled enough to bring hibbert slow Ass outside.. So they will pack the paint

Lance would and have roasted waiters

Bron dominated George

Irving roast hill

Indy bench bus better than Cleveland

 

[AwwDamn]

He's taking a pay cut

He would need to take a helluva pay cut to factor in. I'm talking 8-10 mill tops, for a platooning player that's not bad. If he can only give 15-18 a night, anything more than that, missing 25-30 games on top of it, would be stealing checks..

 

[Complex]

both teams made the playoffs last year. chi without rose. with him at decent would wipe the floor of cle.

kyrie - ball hog that takes an excessive amt of shoots for pts, cant hit from the outside, poor defense
Bennett- one of the worse #1 picks ever. garbage
wiggins - unproven first yr in league and doesn't have killer instinct
varejo-decent big with no offensive production

vs

cole/chalmers - small guards that cant shoot shit, worthless
wade-aging superstar, still can put up 15-18 when healthy
bosh - inside/outside player that can cause mismatches for any big and opens the lane for LeBron
mcrob - team player that can stretch defense and score off picks and roll

that mia team wins 54-57 1-3 seed
that cle team wins 45-50 4-6 seed

experience: mia
coach: mia
friendships: mia
organization: mia

Friendship

The only thing they have on Cleveland is experience and senior citizen discounts. If Cleveland gets a James Jones, Mike Miller or Ray Allen

Hell go back and get Boobie Gibson

 

[AwwDamn]

Dude's acting like Hibbert was tearing up the playoffs before the Heat got to him! His weak ass was trash during the entire playoffs. It's not like he played against stretch 5's before Miami. Miami was just the team to end his run.

 

[AwwDamn]

Friendship

The only thing they have on Cleveland is experience and senior citizen discounts. If Cleveland gets a James Jones, Mike Miller or Ray Allen

Hell go back and get Boobie Gibson

Dude said friendships

So, a 4 year business relationship trumps life long friends? That's a new one on me, I guess I'm stupid