Fam left "unfinished business" in Cleveland bruh.
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Fam left "unfinished business" in Cleveland bruh.
And there u have it...
Different animal when you win a couple of chips and are considered favorites and then proceed to get called out and then humiliated tho...
Nah
this is why I can't see lebron really leaving...that would be screwing wade over big time then again he did it to his teammates in cleveland who had to find out like everybody else which team he'd be playing for
No he didn't
He was there 7 yrs
1 finals appearance
2 60 plus win seasons
He did he could do, Dan Gilbert and their GM didn't do their job period
True but...
If you have 1 Finals Appearance and Consecutive 60 win seasons, MVP, etc, the only thing left for you to do is win it all. Bron chose not to do that in Cleveland, regardless of the circumstances, so yes he left "unfinished business" in Cleveland.
He did "finish" it elsewhere though.
He doesn't sign that short contract he Might have got better help in Cleveland.
There still is the Mike Brown problem. That is front office letting Lebron have his way. But with the proper help, Brown is Spo......
Not sure if that meant anything, he kinda said something many of us have expressed.
Would like to hear the players say things we've been saying. Kinda different seeing this said, rather than the crazy stories we been hearing...
Let's see if I can do a timeline:
-Lebron said they have to get better.
-Lebron opts out
-Lebron wife post pic of Arkon and something about countdown(decision or birth of baby gurl????)
-Takes family on vacation along with the Allen's(maybe the Jones's also)
-Ray say he'll come back (to play aside Lebron)
-Lebron kids registered in school in Arkon
-Big 3 have their salad dinner(Wade and Lebron leave in matching whips)
-story about Bosh & Wade taking major pay cuts
-James, Wade, Riley & Big Z met
-Bosh & Wade's agent say the talk is just talk, ain't no way Bosh taking a cut that low
-more vacations
-Kyle & Gortat resign with their teams, Riley called price tags were what he thought
-Lebron agents taking phone calls
-Lebron used twitter(World Cup related)
-Bosh starting to get love
-stories coming out everywhere about this and that
-Paul Gasol & Deng in the scope, meeting takes place
-Bosh leaving picks up steam
-Summer league starts(Napier look so so, admitted he was nerves at first, but calmed down in the 2nd half)
-Word out Miami can get discount from Bosh, max deal anywhere else
-Pat and Erik impressed Loul Deng
And we're still waiting to hear from the players
Edit: for got Lebron wife picture post....
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Is it clock or a bomb tho?Ticking and Tocking.
Brown is no Spo stop your bullshit
Brown don't run plays all he do is tell Bron get the ball at the top for an ISO
Spo actually run plays
Yeah, Spo runs LeBron or Wade to run pick and roll, Bosh stand out at the 3.
Spo runs 3 plays.
Ray Allen P/R
Lebron ISO
Bosh corner
Everything is telegraphed so teams disrupt them all the time. What ends up happening is a broken play with Lebron doing a clock draining ISO.
If Spo wants to be considered a GOOD coach, he needs to stop being stubborn and USE Bosh more. It might be moot at this point though...
Is this the 2014 NBA Offseason Thread or the Miami Heat Offseason thread?
The Heat are on the losing side in more ways than one and aint even done shit in the offseason..but the thread is full of "Miami Heat rumors".
LbJ needs to let his groupies know what he's gonna do, so you all'S nerves can be calmed.
The Heat or none of its players aint said shit in weeks. yet you niggas are about to kill yourselves typing about all this rumor shit; shit that yall HOPE or ASSUME will happen.
Why so nervous?
The Heat are on the losing side in more ways than one and aint even done shit in the offseason..but the thread is full of "Miami Heat rumors".
LbJ needs to let his groupies know what he's gonna do, so you all'S nerves can be calmed.
The Heat or none of its players aint said shit in weeks. yet you niggas are about to kill yourselves typing about all this rumor shit; shit that yall HOPE or ASSUME will happen.
Why so nervous?
Got dammit Melo just make the announcement that you going back to the Knicks so free agency can really start
That's the big domino that will get this shit rolling
That's the big domino that will get this shit rolling
it should be made tomorrow
Is this the 2014 NBA Offseason Thread or the Miami Heat Offseason thread?
The Heat are on the losing side in more ways than one and aint even done shit in the offseason..but the thread is full of "Miami Heat rumors".
LbJ needs to let his groupies know what he's gonna do, so you all'S nerves can be calmed.
The Heat or none of its players aint said shit in weeks. yet you niggas are about to kill yourselves typing about all this rumor shit; shit that yall HOPE or ASSUME will happen.
Why so nervous?
Dude, real rap, they are THE big story in the NBA now, but not for a positive reason. When these 3 came together, had that big ass pep rally, and all of these 'fans' brought their wagon tickets, no way did anyone know that 4 years later, they would be getting their asses historically kicked, D Wade would be slowly turning into Sam Bowie, and the team would be in this much disarray. I laugh my ass off when their 'fans' now are trying to hype up the consolation prize, 4 straight finals, but realistically, in the weak ass east that was a foregone conclusion, and the way they lost this last one was hilarious, shocking and fucked up all at the same time.
I'm no Heat fan, but I'm definitely a LeBron fan and even though he's rich as fuck, I still feel sorry for him because he can't catch a break, and even though he performed, all of the clownage from the Spurs ass whippin' fell on him.
What motherfuckers need to stop doing is including D Wade as anything but dead weight at this point, and this keeping the big 3 together bullshit should have ceased when his ass started platooning last season. Dude is a 'superstar' now based on his past, like Mike Tyson was still a name even though he started to take ass whippings.
They will be the big story even when LeBron makes his decision, but not based on a positive, but based on if they'd done enough to possibly avenge that historic ass whipping they took, and unless some magical shit happens, there's not enough meat left on the bone out there for them to do that...
Yea I thought Awwdamn was fucking around talking about he doesn't leave shit unfinished.
He did his job in Miami though. Got 2 rings. No shame in that shit. That shit can't be considered "unfinished" and I don't want to hear about that "Not 1, Not 2, Not 3...." bullshit because that shit wasn't realistic to begin with.
He trying to stretch this shit out like he really pondering the shit
As long as the Knicks offered the max he wasn't going NOWHERE
Phil Jackson or no Phil Jackson
Knicks will have some cap space next summer but I just don't see them making serious noise
They will add a big name but Melo ain't seeing no rings fam
And I don't think he minds that
Melo doesn't want to win, period. I don't know what made him think that even coming to NY would give him a better shot at winning a title.
If he stays in NY then no need to feel bad for dude. At least he will be paid.
Nah money + staying in NY >>>>>>> winning to Melo
That dude don't want no title. He wants the money. I can see him right now asking for a trade right at the end of his prime because the Knicks are ass and they in the same boat then as they've been the past 50 years.
I'm for dudes getting their money though. He just can't be shocked at the outcome.
Y'all niggus sound foolish..you get a chance to make 129 mill in 5 years you gonna give that up for a chance to win a ring not even worth 500k?
As he waits out free agency, Grizzlies' free agent Mike Miller will visit the Denver Nuggets Sunday and Monday, a source told 92.9 FM ESPN Saturday morning. ESPN 929
The Grizzlies, according to the source, had an initial offer of two years and annual salary between $2.4 and $2.9 million. Though Miller has repeatedly expressed his desire to stay in Memphis, he is also looking for more security in what will likely be his last multi-year deal. ESPN 929
The Grizzlies, according to the source, had an initial offer of two years and annual salary between $2.4 and $2.9 million. Though Miller has repeatedly expressed his desire to stay in Memphis, he is also looking for more security in what will likely be his last multi-year deal. ESPN 929
Is this the 2014 NBA Offseason Thread or the Miami Heat Offseason thread?
The Heat are on the losing side in more ways than one and aint even done shit in the offseason..but the thread is full of "Miami Heat rumors".
LbJ needs to let his groupies know what he's gonna do, so you all'S nerves can be calmed.
The Heat or none of its players aint said shit in weeks. yet you niggas are about to kill yourselves typing about all this rumor shit; shit that yall HOPE or ASSUME will happen.
Why so nervous?
Unfortunately, the off season doesn't really start till the heat players make up their mind.
I mean damn
D Wade is a free agent too
Has anyone called that niggu?
D Wade is a free agent too
Has anyone called that niggu?
I called him. I called him a washed up bum ass nigga that no showed in the finals which is the main reason Bron taking his talents out of south beach.
No i'm not. I'm just saying I don't want to hear Melo bitching about how trash his team is. He lost that right. Get money. That's been my whole motta all offseason. Dudes talking about Lebron, Wade and Bosh should take pay cuts...hell nah. Get a RAISE. Wade fucked that up because he let Bron debo him out of his contract. But i'm for getting money. But Melo can't sit here and say "Ahh man trade me because we suck". You knew what you were getting into when you re-upped. No one tricked you.
With phil at the helm the Knicks are already a better team..we already got a decent point guard and some what of a defensive center..pull that Gasol move and the squad is looking aight..the shit them three fools are doing in Miami is so dumb especially bosh and wade. These guys are all about to lose money when the owner of the team ain't ready to pay a cent of luxury tax..niggah shit right there
Dunc’d On: Union Request For Stars to Take Maximum is Puzzling
By Nate Duncan
NBA Writer and Columnist
When LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh all opted out of the last two years of their $20 million plus per season contracts with the Miami HEAT, the catcalls started immediately. The assumption was that the stars would all agree to take less than their maximum salaries to facilitate sorely needed additions to the HEAT roster, and many decried their desire to take less as somehow unfairly gaming the system.*
*If fans really want to be outraged over this, they should blame the owners who instituted the maximum salary back in 1999. If stars had to choose between $40 million a year and $15 million, “taking less” would become a lot more uncommon than it already is.
But the oddest angst of all has some from an unexpected quarter: the NBA Players’ Association and certain prominent agents. According to a Sporting News report (which is worth reading in its entirety), the union believes it sets a bad precedent if the best player in the league does not take the most he can get. This is ostensibly part of the reason James has “reversed course” and now is demanding a maximum salary. The NBAPA is so concerned that it is apparently contemplating a union-wide memo to impart this idea.
The reasons cited by the NBAPA and agents quoted in the report do not really hold water though. The newest Collective Bargaining Agreement guarantees the players between 49 and 51 percent of Basketball Related Income (BRI).* The system ensures that each team must spend up to 90 percent of the $63.2 million salary cap, or pay a penalty to the players on the roster if it does not.
*The system by which this occurs is too complex to get into here, but is well-explained by our Larry Coon.
In the grand scheme of things, it matters little that certain players may take less, as that slack will be taken up by the salaries that must be given to other players to reach the minimum salary. In practice, almost all teams spend up to the cap, and many spend well over it. Indeed, the union’s reported insistence that more money go to the highest earners actually flies in the face of one of the established tenets of happiness research, namely that the marginal utility of a dollar decreases as earnings increase. I.e., two players making $10 million a year creates more overall happiness than one making $20 million and another making the minimum.
Some of the upset communicated in the article was over the fact that players should not have to sacrifice further to appease owners who already won the last CBA negotiation which installed the current punitive luxury tax. But the money foregone by stars taking less generally does not go to the owners, but to other players. In the case of the HEAT, if James, Wade, and Bosh all made the maximum it would leave Miami very few avenues under the CBA to add additional salary and improve the team. Players and fans can demand that an owner “go into the luxury tax,” but that kind of spending will not necessarily facilitate massive team improvements.*
*Tax avoidance is, however, a legitimate criticism at the margins, where the HEAT cut costs in 2013-14 by amnestying Mike Miller, trading Joel Anthony, and refusing to add a player with the Tax-Payer Mid-Level Exception. But that is not really related to the idea of James taking less when the team is under the cap-if the HEAT sign anyone using cap space they are likely limited to spending up to the cap plus the $2.7 million Room Exception regardless of how much or little the Big Three take.
If the union is really concerned about maximizing player payments, what it should be doing instead is encouraging stars to re-sign with their original teams who are over the cap using Bird rights, especially with so many teams having cap space around the league. Carmelo Anthony provides a great example. If he signs elsewhere, the Knicks will still be far enough over the cap that they could only spend their cap exceptions totaling about $7 million rather than the $22 million or so it would take to re-sign Anthony. But if he stays, that $22 million gets spent on him and the $22 million it would have taken him to sign elsewhere also gets spent on someone else. By re-signing in New York, Anthony would cause an additional $15 million or so to get spent on players. Those sorts of transactions would help push the players closer to 51 percent of BRI than 49 percent, but even that is a relatively small change.
Thus, this kerfuffle by the union appears misguided. When stars do not take the absolute maximum, the balance generally goes into the pockets of other players, a circumstance which creates more overall happiness among its members.
By Nate Duncan
NBA Writer and Columnist
When LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh all opted out of the last two years of their $20 million plus per season contracts with the Miami HEAT, the catcalls started immediately. The assumption was that the stars would all agree to take less than their maximum salaries to facilitate sorely needed additions to the HEAT roster, and many decried their desire to take less as somehow unfairly gaming the system.*
*If fans really want to be outraged over this, they should blame the owners who instituted the maximum salary back in 1999. If stars had to choose between $40 million a year and $15 million, “taking less” would become a lot more uncommon than it already is.
But the oddest angst of all has some from an unexpected quarter: the NBA Players’ Association and certain prominent agents. According to a Sporting News report (which is worth reading in its entirety), the union believes it sets a bad precedent if the best player in the league does not take the most he can get. This is ostensibly part of the reason James has “reversed course” and now is demanding a maximum salary. The NBAPA is so concerned that it is apparently contemplating a union-wide memo to impart this idea.
The reasons cited by the NBAPA and agents quoted in the report do not really hold water though. The newest Collective Bargaining Agreement guarantees the players between 49 and 51 percent of Basketball Related Income (BRI).* The system ensures that each team must spend up to 90 percent of the $63.2 million salary cap, or pay a penalty to the players on the roster if it does not.
*The system by which this occurs is too complex to get into here, but is well-explained by our Larry Coon.
In the grand scheme of things, it matters little that certain players may take less, as that slack will be taken up by the salaries that must be given to other players to reach the minimum salary. In practice, almost all teams spend up to the cap, and many spend well over it. Indeed, the union’s reported insistence that more money go to the highest earners actually flies in the face of one of the established tenets of happiness research, namely that the marginal utility of a dollar decreases as earnings increase. I.e., two players making $10 million a year creates more overall happiness than one making $20 million and another making the minimum.
Some of the upset communicated in the article was over the fact that players should not have to sacrifice further to appease owners who already won the last CBA negotiation which installed the current punitive luxury tax. But the money foregone by stars taking less generally does not go to the owners, but to other players. In the case of the HEAT, if James, Wade, and Bosh all made the maximum it would leave Miami very few avenues under the CBA to add additional salary and improve the team. Players and fans can demand that an owner “go into the luxury tax,” but that kind of spending will not necessarily facilitate massive team improvements.*
*Tax avoidance is, however, a legitimate criticism at the margins, where the HEAT cut costs in 2013-14 by amnestying Mike Miller, trading Joel Anthony, and refusing to add a player with the Tax-Payer Mid-Level Exception. But that is not really related to the idea of James taking less when the team is under the cap-if the HEAT sign anyone using cap space they are likely limited to spending up to the cap plus the $2.7 million Room Exception regardless of how much or little the Big Three take.
If the union is really concerned about maximizing player payments, what it should be doing instead is encouraging stars to re-sign with their original teams who are over the cap using Bird rights, especially with so many teams having cap space around the league. Carmelo Anthony provides a great example. If he signs elsewhere, the Knicks will still be far enough over the cap that they could only spend their cap exceptions totaling about $7 million rather than the $22 million or so it would take to re-sign Anthony. But if he stays, that $22 million gets spent on him and the $22 million it would have taken him to sign elsewhere also gets spent on someone else. By re-signing in New York, Anthony would cause an additional $15 million or so to get spent on players. Those sorts of transactions would help push the players closer to 51 percent of BRI than 49 percent, but even that is a relatively small change.
Thus, this kerfuffle by the union appears misguided. When stars do not take the absolute maximum, the balance generally goes into the pockets of other players, a circumstance which creates more overall happiness among its members.
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