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He on his way lol
just heard a pre-game interview and Vogel STILL taking shots
"out team is a real team, not some deal made over the summer"
"out team is a real team, not some deal made over the summer"
Samuel Dalembert interested in signing with Miami Heat as a free agent - SBNation.com
The Milwaukee Bucks haven't bowed out in their seven-game series against the Miami Heat just yet, but center Samuel Dalembert is already pondering if the grass might be greener on the other side.
The veteran big man says joining his current opponent over the summer as an unrestricted free agent could be an appealing option, according to Chris Tomasson of Fox Sports Florida.
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. That's what Dalembert might be thinking.
"The Heat will be definitely an option,’’ Dalembert said after Milwaukee's 23-point loss in Game 1. "It’s up to them and seeing what’s going to be out there. But at this point you want to be with a contending team. You don’t want to go backwards, so you want to chase that promised land."
Though the Bucks are slowly improving, this first-round series against Miami should remind the franchise just how far away "the promised land" is.
Dalembert turns 32 next month, so he's running out of time to really contribute on a championship team, which Miami could presumably be next season.
The Heat reportedly pursued Dalembert last time he was a free agent, before the 2011-12 season, but he ultimately signed a two-year, $13.7 million deal with the Houston Rockets. The Bucks then acquired him by trade during the offseason to bolster their frontcourt following the trade of longtime center Andrew Bogut.
The Milwaukee Bucks haven't bowed out in their seven-game series against the Miami Heat just yet, but center Samuel Dalembert is already pondering if the grass might be greener on the other side.
The veteran big man says joining his current opponent over the summer as an unrestricted free agent could be an appealing option, according to Chris Tomasson of Fox Sports Florida.
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. That's what Dalembert might be thinking.
"The Heat will be definitely an option,’’ Dalembert said after Milwaukee's 23-point loss in Game 1. "It’s up to them and seeing what’s going to be out there. But at this point you want to be with a contending team. You don’t want to go backwards, so you want to chase that promised land."
Though the Bucks are slowly improving, this first-round series against Miami should remind the franchise just how far away "the promised land" is.
Dalembert turns 32 next month, so he's running out of time to really contribute on a championship team, which Miami could presumably be next season.
The Heat reportedly pursued Dalembert last time he was a free agent, before the 2011-12 season, but he ultimately signed a two-year, $13.7 million deal with the Houston Rockets. The Bucks then acquired him by trade during the offseason to bolster their frontcourt following the trade of longtime center Andrew Bogut.
just heard a pre-game interview and Vogel STILL taking shots
"out team is a real team, not some deal made over the summer"
Dude is one mofo who don't know when to stfu and all his is doing is giving the heat a reason to crush these niggas
Lol...I hate those timeout situations when the camera is in the huddle...
Feel the same way about Spo...
3 straight NBA Finals appearances. No fluke shit. 
See I dont event want to begin going in on the breaks the Pacers got this series because I actually like George and Hibbert.
Lance Stephenson, West, Vogel and dem other dudes can go eat a dick tho
I don't care if the players talk shit cause they are out there doing the work
But when bitch ass coaches talkin shit I can't stand them niggas
and ya know what
If he feels so strongly about it let him turn down good free agents
Congratulations to the Heat... 
The Spurs are no slouches... but... The Title.. is YOURS...
DO NOT FUCK IT UP!...
Good Luck!... Heat in 6...
The Spurs are no slouches... but... The Title.. is YOURS...
DO NOT FUCK IT UP!...
Good Luck!... Heat in 6...
wade bring that chip back to mudville
Ray Allen Feels Vindication In Signing With Heat
Jun 06, 2013 12:50 AM EDT
Ray Allen believes his third NBA Finals appearance brings vindication, especially considering he left the Boston Celtics last season for the Miami Heat.
"You try to look at the situation a little bit closer," Allen said. "You step out on the limb every summer and a guy says, ‘am I going to go to this team or that team?’ For me, I guess there is a little bit of vindication because being here is where my whole hope was of doing last summer.”
Allen agrees Paul Pierce is in a difficult position this offseason because the Celtics could either trade or waive him.
"I guess he is at the mercy of what the team wants to do," Allen said.
Via Gary Washburn/Boston Globe
Jun 06, 2013 12:50 AM EDT
Ray Allen believes his third NBA Finals appearance brings vindication, especially considering he left the Boston Celtics last season for the Miami Heat.
"You try to look at the situation a little bit closer," Allen said. "You step out on the limb every summer and a guy says, ‘am I going to go to this team or that team?’ For me, I guess there is a little bit of vindication because being here is where my whole hope was of doing last summer.”
Allen agrees Paul Pierce is in a difficult position this offseason because the Celtics could either trade or waive him.
"I guess he is at the mercy of what the team wants to do," Allen said.
Via Gary Washburn/Boston Globe
The Heat killed all the naysayers and critics by winning 66 games - the exact number of games in the truncated season.
Also they are in good company of historic >.800 teams.
dont mean shit. you all dont even belong on that list for so many reasons. Examine the opposition. like one of the NBA experts said on TV..that long list of accomplishments is not a testament to how good the Heat are...its a testament to how wack this league is. Whenever you can go on a 25+ game win streak in a professional sport.....well that means that that sports need major improvements.
As shown in the playoffs....yall dont look shit like a dominating/dynasty type team.
Yall aint worth a shit.
One man team keeps rolling.
Agent: Bosh Was Key Guy In Formation Of Big 3
Jun 07, 2013 1:55 PM EDT
When LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh became free agents in 2010, it was the latter that may have had the most impactful role in their decision to all sign with the Miami Heat.
"Really, with the decision, I think he was the key guy," said Henry Thomas, Bosh's agent, who also represents Wade. "Once he made the commitment to go to Miami, Dwyane was obviously going through the same thing and talking to the same teams that the other guys were talking to, but once Chris committed there, that had an impact on Dwyane staying there and I think that had an impact on LeBron coming there."
Because James was already considered the world's best player and Wade had been a Finals MVP, Bosh was considered the third guy in the Big 3.
"I just let it go," Bosh said of the criticism. "That's the only thing I can do, because I'm not going to get 30 and 15, or 20 and 10, with this team. Sometimes you have to sacrifice the glory."
Jun 07, 2013 1:55 PM EDT
When LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh became free agents in 2010, it was the latter that may have had the most impactful role in their decision to all sign with the Miami Heat.
"Really, with the decision, I think he was the key guy," said Henry Thomas, Bosh's agent, who also represents Wade. "Once he made the commitment to go to Miami, Dwyane was obviously going through the same thing and talking to the same teams that the other guys were talking to, but once Chris committed there, that had an impact on Dwyane staying there and I think that had an impact on LeBron coming there."
Because James was already considered the world's best player and Wade had been a Finals MVP, Bosh was considered the third guy in the Big 3.
"I just let it go," Bosh said of the criticism. "That's the only thing I can do, because I'm not going to get 30 and 15, or 20 and 10, with this team. Sometimes you have to sacrifice the glory."
Cheap labor key to Heat's future
* Amid this third consecutive trip to the NBA Finals, and with increasingly punitive salary-cap and luxury-tax penalties about to kick in from the new collective-bargaining agreement, the question becomes how the Miami Heat will be able to sustain their pipeline of supporting talent.
* The answer? Other people's money.
* It's how the Heat cashed in this season when others cashed out on Rashard Lewis and Chris Andersen.
** For Lewis, there was a $9 million buyout by the New Orleans Hornets last summer, so an argument could be made that with his Heat deal at the veteran minimum, there still was a $10 million salary.
** For Andersen, his amnesty release from the Denver Nuggets in July left him with a $4.5 million guaranteed salary from the Nuggets for the just-completed season, as well as $4.8 million due next season from Denver. In essence, even at the pro-rated minimum from the Heat this season, he still was making mid-level money, which is about right for a backup center playing in his minutes range.
** For a capped-up, taxed-out contender, the misspent money of others well could be the gift that keeps on giving.
* Taking this coming summer, for example. That's when several proven quantities could leave their teams with enough cash in hand not to be offended by a minimal offer (the Heat would be down to a single $3 million taxpayer's mid-level offer or the mere minimum, which runs at about $1 million for veterans).
** With the Boston Celtics, there is the opportunity to buy out the $11.3 remaining season on Paul Pierce's contract for $4 million by June 30. The Chicago Bulls have a $1 million buyout option for the $4 million on Richard Hamilton's contract for next season. The Orlando Magic can cut the $7.1 million due to Al Harrington in half with a buyout, with the Detroit Pistons holding a similar 50-50 split decision on the $8.5 million due Rodney Stuckey.
** Other cases where teams can reduce their salary burden with partial payments in buyouts include Dallas Mavericks guard Vince Carter, Toronto Raptors guard Kyle Lowry, New Orleans Pelicans forward Jason Smith, Los Angeles Lakers guard Chris Duhon, San Antonio Spurs forward Matt Bonner and Magic forward Hedo Turkoglu.
** Then there is the pool of potential amnesty cuts, moves that require payment of full remaining salary from their current teams, but moves that also eliminate the luxury-tax liability of retaining those players. Among those remaining in that ever-shrinking pool are Tyrus Thomas, Charlie Villanueva, Metta World Peace, Steve Blake, Drew Gooden, Kendrick Perkins, John Salmons, and, of course, the Heat's Mike Miller and Joel Anthony (who, under amnesty rules, could not be amnestied and then re-signed by the Heat).
** The difference there is that players released through amnesty are then put up for bid to teams with remaining cap space. Still, there have been players who have cleared that process to shake free to capped-out teams, with the Heat's Andersen among that group.
** No, the aforementioned names are not overwhelmingly appetizing. But all stand as proven quantities, and all would hit the market with cash in hand, perhaps increasing the willingness to play with a contender for little additional payoff, as was the case with Lewis.
** "When you're getting paid, you're still getting paid your money, it's a lot easier to choose where you want to go and choose your destination," Lewis said of hitting the market with guaranteed cash from elsewhere. "That made my whole focus playing for contenders."
** Like many on the aforementioned list, Lewis said he had moved beyond maxing out his bank account.
** "I've accomplished a lot in my career money-wise, making an All-Star team," he said. "I felt like the only blank I had left to fill in was to win a championship ring."
** Cash in hand also eased Andersen's decision, and potentially could again this summer, when the optimal outcome for the Heat would be signing him to another minimal contract.
** "I try not to think about the 'cash flow'; I try to think about a trophy," Andersen said. "That's the big picture for me."
** It's a picture easier to paint when there already is cash in hand, as there will be for several similar veterans this offseason, who could come to realize that the three-year path of least resistance to the NBA Finals has been through South Florida.
** With David Stern not backing off on his challenge to the Heat's payroll, the ultimate answer could be, well, easy money.
IN THE LANE
*** NEXT STEP: Vanquished but not deterred, the Indiana Pacers find themselves at a crossroads after being eliminated by the Heat in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals. For now, coach Frank Vogel is saying that a healthy Danny Granger will get every opportunity to regain his starting role next season. But Vogel also is pushing Lance Stephenson to fight off that challenge. Then there is the issue at point guard, where George Hill ultimately succumbed to the Heat's Game 7 pressure, with the Pacers probably better suited with a more innate playmaker. Foremost, of course, is re-signing free-agent power forward David West, who helps give Indiana its big-muscle identity. Summing up where his team stands, Vogel told the media in his exit interview, "We were right there against Miami, in a Game 7, and we probably have more room for growth than any team going right now that can consider themselves a championship contender, especially with Danny Granger coming back." The Chicago Bulls, with Derrick Rose, might disagree.
** FOND FAREWELL: Even with the torment Jason Kidd added to LeBron James' career with the Dallas Mavericks' 2011 championship run past the Heat, the respect for his 2008 Olympic teammate endured right through Kidd's announcement of his retirement from the New York Knicks this past week. "His basketball IQ was one of the all-time highs, and to have an opportunity to play with him in 2008 was great," James said. "It's funny to see him and Grant Hill, they won co-Rookie of the Year, and they both announce their retirement on the same [weekend]. I think that's pretty cool and that's pretty unique and it'd be pretty great to see them both go in the Hall of Fame at the same time."
*** DUAL ROLE: Tim Hardaway Jr. offered an interesting take during a recent ESPN podcast when it came to his father being alongside at the recent Chicago pre-draft combine. "It means a lot. You don't see that many NBA fathers around," the Michigan guard said of the former Heat All-Star point guard. "Austin Rivers' dad was around last year; my father was around this year. It's a blessing just to have a father that who wants you to be the best you can, to go out there, have fun, show your talent, show your abilities. . . . But he really wasn't there supporting me. He was looking for a player for the Miami Heat because he's a scout for them." The Heat do not have a pick in either round of the June 27 NBA Draft, their first-round pick having gone to Cleveland in the LeBron sign-and-trade, their second-round pick to the Memphis Grizzlies in the February selloff of Dexter Pittman's contract.
*** SUPPORT SYSTEM: Jerry West once deferred to Pat Riley when it came to coaching the Los Angeles Lakers. That respect endures, as evidenced by a recent West interview with NBC's Bob Costas. "I'm happy for him," West said pf the Heat president and architect of the NBA finalists. "The one thing I found out very early about him was his fierce nature. When he got his opportunity to coach here in Los Angeles, you could see he had something special about him. I think he's proven his worth not only as a coach but as an executive. What he's done down in Miami . . . success follows success."
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*** 1. Active players remaining from the 1994 NBA Draft in the wake of this past week's retirements of Jason Kidd and Grant Hill: Heat forward Juwan Howard, the No. 5 pick that year by Washington. (Among others in that draft were former and long-retired Heat players Brian Grant, Eddie Jones and Voshon Lenard.)
*** iwinderman@tribune.com. Follow him at twitter.com/iraheatbeat.
* Amid this third consecutive trip to the NBA Finals, and with increasingly punitive salary-cap and luxury-tax penalties about to kick in from the new collective-bargaining agreement, the question becomes how the Miami Heat will be able to sustain their pipeline of supporting talent.
* The answer? Other people's money.
* It's how the Heat cashed in this season when others cashed out on Rashard Lewis and Chris Andersen.
** For Lewis, there was a $9 million buyout by the New Orleans Hornets last summer, so an argument could be made that with his Heat deal at the veteran minimum, there still was a $10 million salary.
** For Andersen, his amnesty release from the Denver Nuggets in July left him with a $4.5 million guaranteed salary from the Nuggets for the just-completed season, as well as $4.8 million due next season from Denver. In essence, even at the pro-rated minimum from the Heat this season, he still was making mid-level money, which is about right for a backup center playing in his minutes range.
** For a capped-up, taxed-out contender, the misspent money of others well could be the gift that keeps on giving.
* Taking this coming summer, for example. That's when several proven quantities could leave their teams with enough cash in hand not to be offended by a minimal offer (the Heat would be down to a single $3 million taxpayer's mid-level offer or the mere minimum, which runs at about $1 million for veterans).
** With the Boston Celtics, there is the opportunity to buy out the $11.3 remaining season on Paul Pierce's contract for $4 million by June 30. The Chicago Bulls have a $1 million buyout option for the $4 million on Richard Hamilton's contract for next season. The Orlando Magic can cut the $7.1 million due to Al Harrington in half with a buyout, with the Detroit Pistons holding a similar 50-50 split decision on the $8.5 million due Rodney Stuckey.
** Other cases where teams can reduce their salary burden with partial payments in buyouts include Dallas Mavericks guard Vince Carter, Toronto Raptors guard Kyle Lowry, New Orleans Pelicans forward Jason Smith, Los Angeles Lakers guard Chris Duhon, San Antonio Spurs forward Matt Bonner and Magic forward Hedo Turkoglu.
** Then there is the pool of potential amnesty cuts, moves that require payment of full remaining salary from their current teams, but moves that also eliminate the luxury-tax liability of retaining those players. Among those remaining in that ever-shrinking pool are Tyrus Thomas, Charlie Villanueva, Metta World Peace, Steve Blake, Drew Gooden, Kendrick Perkins, John Salmons, and, of course, the Heat's Mike Miller and Joel Anthony (who, under amnesty rules, could not be amnestied and then re-signed by the Heat).
** The difference there is that players released through amnesty are then put up for bid to teams with remaining cap space. Still, there have been players who have cleared that process to shake free to capped-out teams, with the Heat's Andersen among that group.
** No, the aforementioned names are not overwhelmingly appetizing. But all stand as proven quantities, and all would hit the market with cash in hand, perhaps increasing the willingness to play with a contender for little additional payoff, as was the case with Lewis.
** "When you're getting paid, you're still getting paid your money, it's a lot easier to choose where you want to go and choose your destination," Lewis said of hitting the market with guaranteed cash from elsewhere. "That made my whole focus playing for contenders."
** Like many on the aforementioned list, Lewis said he had moved beyond maxing out his bank account.
** "I've accomplished a lot in my career money-wise, making an All-Star team," he said. "I felt like the only blank I had left to fill in was to win a championship ring."
** Cash in hand also eased Andersen's decision, and potentially could again this summer, when the optimal outcome for the Heat would be signing him to another minimal contract.
** "I try not to think about the 'cash flow'; I try to think about a trophy," Andersen said. "That's the big picture for me."
** It's a picture easier to paint when there already is cash in hand, as there will be for several similar veterans this offseason, who could come to realize that the three-year path of least resistance to the NBA Finals has been through South Florida.
** With David Stern not backing off on his challenge to the Heat's payroll, the ultimate answer could be, well, easy money.
IN THE LANE
*** NEXT STEP: Vanquished but not deterred, the Indiana Pacers find themselves at a crossroads after being eliminated by the Heat in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals. For now, coach Frank Vogel is saying that a healthy Danny Granger will get every opportunity to regain his starting role next season. But Vogel also is pushing Lance Stephenson to fight off that challenge. Then there is the issue at point guard, where George Hill ultimately succumbed to the Heat's Game 7 pressure, with the Pacers probably better suited with a more innate playmaker. Foremost, of course, is re-signing free-agent power forward David West, who helps give Indiana its big-muscle identity. Summing up where his team stands, Vogel told the media in his exit interview, "We were right there against Miami, in a Game 7, and we probably have more room for growth than any team going right now that can consider themselves a championship contender, especially with Danny Granger coming back." The Chicago Bulls, with Derrick Rose, might disagree.
** FOND FAREWELL: Even with the torment Jason Kidd added to LeBron James' career with the Dallas Mavericks' 2011 championship run past the Heat, the respect for his 2008 Olympic teammate endured right through Kidd's announcement of his retirement from the New York Knicks this past week. "His basketball IQ was one of the all-time highs, and to have an opportunity to play with him in 2008 was great," James said. "It's funny to see him and Grant Hill, they won co-Rookie of the Year, and they both announce their retirement on the same [weekend]. I think that's pretty cool and that's pretty unique and it'd be pretty great to see them both go in the Hall of Fame at the same time."
*** DUAL ROLE: Tim Hardaway Jr. offered an interesting take during a recent ESPN podcast when it came to his father being alongside at the recent Chicago pre-draft combine. "It means a lot. You don't see that many NBA fathers around," the Michigan guard said of the former Heat All-Star point guard. "Austin Rivers' dad was around last year; my father was around this year. It's a blessing just to have a father that who wants you to be the best you can, to go out there, have fun, show your talent, show your abilities. . . . But he really wasn't there supporting me. He was looking for a player for the Miami Heat because he's a scout for them." The Heat do not have a pick in either round of the June 27 NBA Draft, their first-round pick having gone to Cleveland in the LeBron sign-and-trade, their second-round pick to the Memphis Grizzlies in the February selloff of Dexter Pittman's contract.
*** SUPPORT SYSTEM: Jerry West once deferred to Pat Riley when it came to coaching the Los Angeles Lakers. That respect endures, as evidenced by a recent West interview with NBC's Bob Costas. "I'm happy for him," West said pf the Heat president and architect of the NBA finalists. "The one thing I found out very early about him was his fierce nature. When he got his opportunity to coach here in Los Angeles, you could see he had something special about him. I think he's proven his worth not only as a coach but as an executive. What he's done down in Miami . . . success follows success."
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*** 1. Active players remaining from the 1994 NBA Draft in the wake of this past week's retirements of Jason Kidd and Grant Hill: Heat forward Juwan Howard, the No. 5 pick that year by Washington. (Among others in that draft were former and long-retired Heat players Brian Grant, Eddie Jones and Voshon Lenard.)
*** iwinderman@tribune.com. Follow him at twitter.com/iraheatbeat.
Leggo Leggo Leggo 
Congrats...but yall still aint worth a shit.
Got Lucky.
Next year Bulls take that crown.
BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!
Got Lucky.
Next year Bulls take that crown.
BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!
Scam faggit
Hard to see that when D Rose sees the court, he runs to the bathroom and hides in the stall shaking.
stfu pussy.
Yall still gotta win two more (first title dont count) to be on a dynasty type level.
Lakers, Celtics, Bulls....all remembered for 3 peats
get on our level.
Celebrate ninjas
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