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If Miami was in the West, they WOULD NOT have won 66 games fam and would've had to really fight for that #1 seed. Stop it.
The East is ass compared to the West.
If Miami was in the West, they WOULD NOT have won 66 games fam and would've had to really fight for that #1 seed. Stop it.
The East is ass compared to the West.
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Nah bruh, the West is ass just like in the 90s when the Bulls dominated.
Nah bruh, the West is ass just like in the 90s when the Bulls dominated.
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Yes because having to win at least 56 games to even be in the top 5 means the conference you play in is weak.
Meanwhile winning less than 50 games gets you the 3rd seed in the East which means "wins don't come easy" in the East.
I don't think it works that way.
Nah bruh, the West is ass just like in the 90s when the Bulls dominated.
Yes because having to win at least 56 games to even be in the top 5 means the conference you play in is weak.
Meanwhile winning less than 50 games gets you the 3rd seed in the East which means "wins don't come easy" in the East.
I don't think it works that way.
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I'm sayin man
I'm sayin man
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All I know is, OKC DOMINATED the Western conference playoffs last year then get slapped around in 5 games in the Finals by the East representative.
The 2 best teams in the West this year went 0-4 against the Heat.
Yes because having to win at least 56 games to even be in the top 5 means the conference you play in is weak.
Meanwhile winning less than 50 games gets you the 3rd seed in the East which means "wins don't come easy" in the East.
I don't think it works that way.
All I know is, OKC DOMINATED the Western conference playoffs last year then get slapped around in 5 games in the Finals by the East representative.
The 2 best teams in the West this year went 0-4 against the Heat.
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Kobe Jr. with a bad knee
Re: {--Miami Heat vs Indiana Pacers - East Conf. Finals 2013--Miami 3- 2--}
I have a simple formula in determining who wins, its usually the team that has to do the least amount of double teaming and the team who takes the easier shots, the wild card goes to the mega superstars... Right now the Pacers are able to play more body on body defense and they are shooting much easier shots, the only thing the Heat have is that wild card mega superstar in LeBron..
The Spurs/Heat series the formula is different, because I feel that the Spurs will be doing most of the doubling up and collapsing in the paint, which should lead to easier Heat baskets and better spacing aslo as long as they have the superstar wild card in James I think they should be fine.. As far as the Indiana vs S.A. I think Hibbert and West physicality will eventually wear down the Spurs a team who has a history of wilting over the last five years..
I have a simple formula in determining who wins, its usually the team that has to do the least amount of double teaming and the team who takes the easier shots, the wild card goes to the mega superstars... Right now the Pacers are able to play more body on body defense and they are shooting much easier shots, the only thing the Heat have is that wild card mega superstar in LeBron..
The Spurs/Heat series the formula is different, because I feel that the Spurs will be doing most of the doubling up and collapsing in the paint, which should lead to easier Heat baskets and better spacing aslo as long as they have the superstar wild card in James I think they should be fine.. As far as the Indiana vs S.A. I think Hibbert and West physicality will eventually wear down the Spurs a team who has a history of wilting over the last five years..
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Pacers can not and would not beat the Spurs.
Pacers can not and would not beat the Spurs.
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OKC is a threat on paper but like S.A. they have match up problems vs the Heat, while teams like Boston, Indiana and the Bulls may appear to lack talent to match up vs Miami however their style of play gives the Heat fits..
Re: {--Miami Heat vs Indiana Pacers - East Conf. Finals 2013--Miami 3- 2--}
Yeah they beat a young OKC team last year. Proves nothing though.
And I do believe Pop sat his best players for a matchup with the Heat this season on TNT so........again this proves nothing.
Miami is the Best team in the league and they should be since they are "Superfriends" and all but they're in the weaker conference.
And y'all in here better stop acting like the Heat Spurs matchup is not all but set. The NBA is where "What you expect to happen, usually happens" Happens.
Like I said i'm waiting to see if there is a team still left in the playoffs that actually has the balls to beat Miami. Other than that i'm not interested. Give Lebron his 2nd ring. It's like watching a movie and you know the ending.
That was my main opposition to Lebron and Bosh coming to the Heat. It takes away real competition.
All I know is, OKC DOMINATED the Western conference playoffs last year then get slapped around in 5 games in the Finals by the East representative.
The 2 best teams in the West this year went 0-4 against the Heat.
Yeah they beat a young OKC team last year. Proves nothing though.
And I do believe Pop sat his best players for a matchup with the Heat this season on TNT so........again this proves nothing.
Miami is the Best team in the league and they should be since they are "Superfriends" and all but they're in the weaker conference.
And y'all in here better stop acting like the Heat Spurs matchup is not all but set. The NBA is where "What you expect to happen, usually happens" Happens.
Like I said i'm waiting to see if there is a team still left in the playoffs that actually has the balls to beat Miami. Other than that i'm not interested. Give Lebron his 2nd ring. It's like watching a movie and you know the ending.
That was my main opposition to Lebron and Bosh coming to the Heat. It takes away real competition.
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I know I once called Memphis and Indiana basically the same team, well I now take that back, Hibbert is >>> Gasol and West is >> Zach and George is starting to show signs of taking his game to superstar level... So these elements may allow Indiana do the small little things that Memphis failed at doing to the Spurs thus allowing their physicality to wear down the Spurs.
Yall are confusing these Spurs with the old Spurs, remember these are basically the same kats that lost 4 strait last year and almost lost to the Warriors.. Memphis was way overrated and played well vs the very weak teams in the West, and even though they got swept if they had just a little bit more here and there they could have easily won three games..
I know I once called Memphis and Indiana basically the same team, well I now take that back, Hibbert is >>> Gasol and West is >> Zach and George is starting to show signs of taking his game to superstar level... So these elements may allow Indiana do the small little things that Memphis failed at doing to the Spurs thus allowing their physicality to wear down the Spurs.
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Re: {--Miami Heat vs Indiana Pacers - East Conf. Finals 2013--Miami 3- 2--}
that same "young" team won 4 straight against the spurs after being down 2-0
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As far as weaker conference the East have teams that are desined to play in the playoffs as opposed to run and gun free shooters who look great in the regular season, padding their stats vs team who can't play defense, but when it comes to playing tough hard nose defense the Eastern teams >>>>>>.
You conveniently forgot that the Heat beat the Spurs later on in the season in a game that was supposed to be the revenge game and a very important game in the late standing with OKC and them battling for top spot in the West... Oh yeah Mia played with out Wade, James and Rio and still won..
As far as weaker conference the East have teams that are desined to play in the playoffs as opposed to run and gun free shooters who look great in the regular season, padding their stats vs team who can't play defense, but when it comes to playing tough hard nose defense the Eastern teams >>>>>>.
Re: {--Miami Heat vs Indiana Pacers - East Conf. Finals 2013--Miami 3- 2--}
Shut up...
Shut up...
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What does this have to do with OKC vs MIA last year?
I didn't "conveniently" forget anything. Heat went 2-0 vs a Spurs team that sat out their best players and then lost to a Heat team that was without it's best players. If you remember the Spurs did almost beat the Heat without it's star players too.
Again this means nothing. Spurs will most likely lose to the Heat. Spurs don't have Lebron.
As far as East teams being designed for the playoffs vs West teams, can't agree.
Outside of MIA, BOS, CHI, and IND who else is designed for the playoffs?
The West has Spurs, LA, MEM, and OKC, and Dallas that continually win in the playoffs as well. Only teams like Denver and the Clippers feast in the regular season and don't look so good in the postseason.
It's harder to make the playoffs in the West. The only reason the East gets championship bragging rights is because MIA acquired 3 of the best players in the league.
Injuries ruined this postseason though.
What does this have to do with OKC vs MIA last year?I didn't "conveniently" forget anything. Heat went 2-0 vs a Spurs team that sat out their best players and then lost to a Heat team that was without it's best players. If you remember the Spurs did almost beat the Heat without it's star players too.
Again this means nothing. Spurs will most likely lose to the Heat. Spurs don't have Lebron.
As far as East teams being designed for the playoffs vs West teams, can't agree.
Outside of MIA, BOS, CHI, and IND who else is designed for the playoffs?
The West has Spurs, LA, MEM, and OKC, and Dallas that continually win in the playoffs as well. Only teams like Denver and the Clippers feast in the regular season and don't look so good in the postseason.
It's harder to make the playoffs in the West. The only reason the East gets championship bragging rights is because MIA acquired 3 of the best players in the league.
Injuries ruined this postseason though.
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Number one they did not beat the Heat and the Heat has a long history of not getting up for bad teams, this is why they lost to the Wizards twice.... The big game was when they beat them in S.A. with out James, Wade and Rio, sure Ginobilli was out, but he has not been much of a factor since he went out with injury... In other words its basically the same Spurs team playing as hard as they would in the playoffs (it was a revenge game and losing to the short handed Heat would be an embarrassment at home especially with all their fans there holding revenge signs)... But unlike the Spurs they didn't almost won a meaningless game, they beat them in a game that had at the time playoff implications..
I didn't "conveniently" forget anything. Heat went 2-0 vs a Spurs team that sat out their best players and then lost to a Heat team that was without it's best players. If you remember the Spurs did almost beat the Heat without it's star players too.
Again this means nothing. Spurs will most likely lose to the Heat. Spurs don't have Lebron.
As far as East teams being designed for the playoffs vs West teams, can't agree.
Outside of MIA, BOS, CHI, and IND who else is designed for the playoffs?
The West has Spurs, LA, MEM, and OKC, and Dallas that continually win in the playoffs as well. Only teams like Denver and the Clippers feast in the regular season and don't look so good in the postseason.
It's harder to make the playoffs in the West. The only reason the East gets championship bragging rights is because MIA acquired 3 of the best players in the league.
Injuries ruined this postseason though.
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Damn I thought I was the only one who felt this way about Bosh...
I've been saying this since the decision, run the offense thru Bosh...
LargeBill I fucks with you kinfolk...
Damn I thought I was the only one who felt this way about Bosh...
I've been saying this since the decision, run the offense thru Bosh...
LargeBill I fucks with you kinfolk...
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bosh can play in the post, but bosh ain't physical enough to STAY in the post.
you can't use him as an ESTABLISHED post player banging on the blocks all night with a mofo like zbo. you have to pick & choose when he's got opportunities to post over smaller players and feed him then.
but that takes an unselfish team and an offense that almost uses him as a 1a option instead of a 2nd option.
zbo wrecked blake griffin, and even though bosh has more offense, griffin is bigger, stronger, and more athletic.
to constantly bang down low, bosh needs to hit the weight room. he doesn't have to get as big as karl malone, but he's too light in the ass for a series of physical players to push him around.
against a player like west, bosh's athleticism is an advantage, but west would 'beat him up' pretty good... if they tried to establish bosh down low.
bosh can play in the post, but bosh ain't physical enough to STAY in the post.
you can't use him as an ESTABLISHED post player banging on the blocks all night with a mofo like zbo. you have to pick & choose when he's got opportunities to post over smaller players and feed him then.
but that takes an unselfish team and an offense that almost uses him as a 1a option instead of a 2nd option.
zbo wrecked blake griffin, and even though bosh has more offense, griffin is bigger, stronger, and more athletic.
to constantly bang down low, bosh needs to hit the weight room. he doesn't have to get as big as karl malone, but he's too light in the ass for a series of physical players to push him around.
against a player like west, bosh's athleticism is an advantage, but west would 'beat him up' pretty good... if they tried to establish bosh down low.
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Re: {--Miami Heat vs Indiana Pacers - East Conf. Finals 2013--Miami 3- 2--}
Ok definitely not trying to debate who's better between the Spurs or Heat though. I don't care for either team. Regardless, Miami is not winning 66 games in the West. This obviously is moot because MIA is in the East though.
Lucky bastards.
Ok definitely not trying to debate who's better between the Spurs or Heat though. I don't care for either team. Regardless, Miami is not winning 66 games in the West. This obviously is moot because MIA is in the East though.
Lucky bastards.
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I was trying to keep the Heat out of the equation, because fans can be biased... But a lot of the teams in the West play basically NY Knick ball, all jumpers, tons of scoring but no defense... That shit flies well in the regular season, so to answer your question, I don't know how many games the Heat would win in the West during the regular season, but I will tell you this, they would stomp on those teams once the playoff arrive and they are forced to play half court playoff ball.
Ok definitely not trying to debate who's better between the Spurs or Heat though. I don't care for either team. Regardless, Miami is not winning 66 games in the West. This obviously is moot because MIA is in the East though.
Lucky bastards.
I was trying to keep the Heat out of the equation, because fans can be biased... But a lot of the teams in the West play basically NY Knick ball, all jumpers, tons of scoring but no defense... That shit flies well in the regular season, so to answer your question, I don't know how many games the Heat would win in the West during the regular season, but I will tell you this, they would stomp on those teams once the playoff arrive and they are forced to play half court playoff ball.
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Don't know why you brought up up b ball iq ,but...
His b ball iq is no lebron ,but he's smart enough to not consistently shoot bad shots or else he wouldn't have a 49 percent field percentage for his career
49 percent for his career.. hell he's shooting 47 percent vs the pacers and their stingy d with a bad knee
15 ppg 47 percent bad knee ? against a top two defense in the nba
Y'all remind me of the hating ass niggas who will call someone "new" money and big up 'old money" like they don't spend the same let me bring that forward. what I'm saying is two points is two points
15,5,6 vs the pacers this series y'all acting like he's completely ineffective now.. his point production is down he's giving rebounds and assist and to be real since lebron came his point production dropped any way... a healthy wade is getting 20 something if a unhealthy one is getting 15 per against a great defense
He's never had high field goal percentage ? what for his whole career his field goal percentage is 49..percent
is he the wade we're use to now ? no ,but compare it to last year playoffs and the drop off is because of the knee..
Don't know why you brought up up b ball iq ,but...
His b ball iq is no lebron ,but he's smart enough to not consistently shoot bad shots or else he wouldn't have a 49 percent field percentage for his career
49 percent for his career.. hell he's shooting 47 percent vs the pacers and their stingy d with a bad knee
15 ppg 47 percent bad knee ? against a top two defense in the nba
Y'all remind me of the hating ass niggas who will call someone "new" money and big up 'old money" like they don't spend the same let me bring that forward. what I'm saying is two points is two points
15,5,6 vs the pacers this series y'all acting like he's completely ineffective now.. his point production is down he's giving rebounds and assist and to be real since lebron came his point production dropped any way... a healthy wade is getting 20 something if a unhealthy one is getting 15 per against a great defense
He's never had high field goal percentage ? what for his whole career his field goal percentage is 49..percent
is he the wade we're use to now ? no ,but compare it to last year playoffs and the drop off is because of the knee..
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We're piling it on wade right now because he looks like shit, but Wade shot 52% this season. It's the knee combined with he's never added anything to his game so he can't get into the paint (or free throw line) which basically where Wade eats.
We're piling it on wade right now because he looks like shit, but Wade shot 52% this season. It's the knee combined with he's never added anything to his game so he can't get into the paint (or free throw line) which basically where Wade eats.
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I told ya'll the Pacer's achilles heel is their lack of consistent jump shooters. If they have championship aspirations they need to address that. Miami win or bust this season will have to rebuild their bench with size and youth. If they bring those reserves back next year I promise they will not get past round 2 next year.
I told ya'll the Pacer's achilles heel is their lack of consistent jump shooters. If they have championship aspirations they need to address that. Miami win or bust this season will have to rebuild their bench with size and youth. If they bring those reserves back next year I promise they will not get past round 2 next year.
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If they make no changes they will win 60 games and be the favorite to go back to the Finals. They're not at the point yet where the legs are gonna fall off. They've got one more season. They'll probably make some moves though. I highly doubt Miller comes back and maybe another one.
If they make no changes they will win 60 games and be the favorite to go back to the Finals. They're not at the point yet where the legs are gonna fall off. They've got one more season. They'll probably make some moves though. I highly doubt Miller comes back and maybe another one.
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His knee is shit...but he's still giving you 15,5,6 on 47 percent shooting against what many say are the best defense .. with big ass long defenders
Slashing is one of the most important parts of his game ,but for cats to say he can't shoot ? I'm going to always disagree I watch plenty of miami heat games.. see location.. on sun network.. games many others unless they're not watching their teams.. to watch the heat have to watch on nba league pass
You're a knowledgeable pretty non bias poster...is wade in your mind
A terrible shooter ?
A decent shooter ?
A good shooter ?
A great shooter ?
when I think "terrible" I think of tony allen
His knee is shit...but he's still giving you 15,5,6 on 47 percent shooting against what many say are the best defense .. with big ass long defenders
Slashing is one of the most important parts of his game ,but for cats to say he can't shoot ? I'm going to always disagree I watch plenty of miami heat games.. see location.. on sun network.. games many others unless they're not watching their teams.. to watch the heat have to watch on nba league pass
You're a knowledgeable pretty non bias poster...is wade in your mind
A terrible shooter ?
A decent shooter ?
A good shooter ?
A great shooter ?
when I think "terrible" I think of tony allen
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Mother... they changed he camera so quick
Mother... they changed he camera so quick
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The EC is still weak but improving. Trust fam Miami needs to find a young athletic wing and either a shot blocker or a wide body who can push people around once they add that they will be even more complete as a team.
The EC is still weak but improving. Trust fam Miami needs to find a young athletic wing and either a shot blocker or a wide body who can push people around once they add that they will be even more complete as a team.
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I need a level just below decent as a "shooter". He's a good scorer but his shooting skills are suspect. He's a streaky shooter though. But honestly now..when Wade takes a jumper from farther than 17 feet, I'm expecting him to miss it.
Wade is an example of what happens when you don't develop your game. He doesn't have anything else to depend on once the athleticism goes. He's essentially the same player he was when he came in the league. He's added nothing.
But at the same time I know we're seeing him play this badly because of the knee. It's been obvious for a while. I was mentioning it in the Bucks series that you could tell right away his knee is worse than they're alluding to.
It's his shot selection that can drive a person crazy sometimes. He's definitely no Manu-level but sometimes he just gets careless.
I need a level just below decent as a "shooter". He's a good scorer but his shooting skills are suspect. He's a streaky shooter though. But honestly now..when Wade takes a jumper from farther than 17 feet, I'm expecting him to miss it.
Wade is an example of what happens when you don't develop your game. He doesn't have anything else to depend on once the athleticism goes. He's essentially the same player he was when he came in the league. He's added nothing.
But at the same time I know we're seeing him play this badly because of the knee. It's been obvious for a while. I was mentioning it in the Bucks series that you could tell right away his knee is worse than they're alluding to.
It's his shot selection that can drive a person crazy sometimes. He's definitely no Manu-level but sometimes he just gets careless.
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I could see an upset in the confernce finals (maybe) if Indiana added at least one sharp shooter and kept everyone else. Nobody else is really gonna challenge them. The heat look young compared to the Knicks and it's probably gonna take D. Rose a full season just to get comfortable with his knee. So I just don't see who can leapfrom them next season. I think they'll make some major roster changes after next season though.
I could see an upset in the confernce finals (maybe) if Indiana added at least one sharp shooter and kept everyone else. Nobody else is really gonna challenge them. The heat look young compared to the Knicks and it's probably gonna take D. Rose a full season just to get comfortable with his knee. So I just don't see who can leapfrom them next season. I think they'll make some major roster changes after next season though.
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We can agree to disagree but I respect your basketball opinion. I can see the Bulls and Pacers closing the gap to the point it ain't the Heat and everybody else.
We can agree to disagree but I respect your basketball opinion. I can see the Bulls and Pacers closing the gap to the point it ain't the Heat and everybody else.
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Kind of hard for me to give much to Chicago considering their circumstances. So much depends on how Rose looks when he comes back. Plus they've still not made the necessary roster changes to make the jump.
Kind of hard for me to give much to Chicago considering their circumstances. So much depends on how Rose looks when he comes back. Plus they've still not made the necessary roster changes to make the jump.
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