LL hooks up with country artist: "Accidental Racist"

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i can't believe it all over again.
hearing the comments again

wow

white dude said don't be victims it happened SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long ago

and ll said "right''

i still can't believe this shit.

met
wtf
 
let's not be victims of things that's happened soooooo long ago "right"

i just don't see how..

i might put a skull and cross bones on but im not a pirate... so if he has a confederate flag that don't make him a confederate soldier.
and last i checked more white folks wear durags than black folks

shit is just insane.
 
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i can't believe it all over again.
hearing the comments again

wow

white dude said don't be victims it happened SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long ago

and ll said "right''

i still can't believe this shit.

met
wtf

Don't blame us.

Charlamgne may have a point.

This dude been on your coast for too long.

He needs some real dudes in his ear.
 
Don't blame us.

Charlamgne may have a point.

This dude been on your coast for too long.

He needs some real dudes in his ear.

Man please that ain't got nothing to do with him being on the west coast. that got everything to do with him losing his damn mind by himself trying to get some money. ain't no real dudes anywhere around him, clearly he ain't hanging with those with melanin and he wouldn't be in ny either.
 
let's not be victims of things that's happened soooooo long ago "right"

i just don't see how..

i might put a skull and cross bones on but im not a pirate... so if he has a confederate flag that don't make him a confederate soldier.
and last i checked more white folks wear durags than black folks

shit is just insane.

Why are you reading into it more than what it is? That is not what he was saying. You kind of taking the words and twisting them
 
Why are you reading into it more than what it is? That is not what he was saying. You kind of taking the words and twisting them

shut your lying ass all the way the fuck up.

that is a quote
you can click the link and listen to it
i did not add or subtract anything to what they said

and what black people do you know that aren't a part of a motorcycle club walk around wearing durags in 2013....

NONE

how is that twisting anything?

your racial trolling is getting old.
 
shut your lying ass all the way the fuck up.

that is a quote
you can click the link and listen to it
i did not add or subtract anything to what they said

and what black people do you know that aren't a part of a motorcycle club walk around wearing durags in 2013....

NONE

how is that twisting anything?

your racial trolling is getting old.

First off less kill all that racial trolling BS. Yall niggas will believe everything someone says. I am a brotha and I posted on BGOL before.

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http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=717053


So you don't agree with the premise that just because one wears certain clothing does not mean they are associated with the negative stigma those clothing can present because of a group of individuals?
 
Why are you reading into it more than what it is? That is not what he was saying. You kind of taking the words and twisting them

save your energy. that clown is just trolling. i verbally beatch slapped his yappin azz yesterday on this very subject yet he's back a day later regurgitating the same sheit feigning outrage :smh:

some dudes just need to log off and go outside to make some real life friends
 
First off less kill all that racial trolling BS. Yall niggas will believe everything someone says. I am a brotha and I posted on BGOL before.

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http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=717053


So you don't agree with the premise that just because one wears certain clothing does not mean they are associated with the negative stigma those clothing can present because of a group of individuals?

LOL now who's twisting words? I said racial trolling. I didn't call you white or imply you were did I? If so where? Are you not now twisting words and reading too much into something which is what you tried to accuse me of doing? :lol:


Not what I said, I said that the thing he chose to represent black men was out of touch and dated. We don't wear durags like its 2003, and its stupid to put into the song in 2013. Durags are on white heads more than black heads so why would he say something silly like that?
 
save your energy. that clown is just trolling. i verbally beatch slapped his yappin azz yesterday on this very subject yet he's back a day later regurgitating the same sheit feigning outrage :smh:

some dudes just need to log off and go outside to make some real life friends

you did no such thing :lol:

the thing that's so frustrating is that i know you're a mark by the way you type, the way you automatically jump to name calling cause offline you're the dude who gets checked by the crew. you're the dude that has to pay to hang out and shit :lol:

sammy still waiting on the proof bruh.

see when you asked me for proof in that duncan thread how i posted it, i didn't say connect dots i posted it.

do the same for sammy.
 
LOL now who's twisting words? I said racial trolling. I didn't call you white or imply you were did I? If so where? Are you not now twisting words and reading too much into something which is what you tried to accuse me of doing? :lol:


Not what I said, I said that the thing he chose to represent black men was out of touch and dated. We don't wear durags like its 2003, and its stupid to put into the song in 2013. Durags are on white heads more than black heads so why would he say something silly like that?

Brotha, being called a race troll is offensive. I would never get on a board and speak negatively about my brothas and sistas just to get a response. Nor will you ever see me hating on our sistas like some threads do.

Man I was just asking a question to get some dialog on how you felt. No one was trolling you
 
you did no such thing :lol:

the thing that's so frustrating is that i know you're a mark by the way you type, the way you automatically jump to name calling cause offline you're the dude who gets checked by the crew. you're the dude that has to pay to hang out and shit :lol:

sammy still waiting on the proof bruh.

see when you asked me for proof in that duncan thread how i posted it, i didn't say connect dots i posted it.

do the same for sammy.

actually it was you that started with the name calling and i responded. but that's neither here nor there. i generally don't respond to trolls and you've done a great job of cloaking your trollness until yesterday.

continue with your trolling and attention whoring. your ridiculous responses are now more repetitive yet just as ridiculous
 
Brotha, being called a race troll is offensive. I would never get on a board and speak negatively about my brothas and sistas just to get a response. Nor will you ever see me hating on our sistas like some threads do.

Man I was just asking a question to get some dialog on how you felt. No one was trolling you

But im saying, I didn't call you white like people who believe you are outright do. so it might have been offensive but i didn't call you something specific. just seemed in this instance its what you were doing.

But you saying i was twisting the words was trolling a little bit because i didn't even say enough of my own opinion in the post you quoted to even twist anything. it was all of what they said and what i didn't agree with.

LL is out of touch on this and it shows clearly that he is.
the defense interview kind of sealed that.. I thought maybe this wasn't something new maybe it was old but being released now. but he's out there really justifying it and i dont understand how he could..
 
actually it was you that started with the name calling and i responded. but that's neither here nor there. i generally don't respond to trolls and you've done a great job of cloaking your trollness until yesterday.

continue with your trolling and attention whoring. your ridiculous responses are now more repetitive yet just as ridiculous

you keep saying a lot of crap and keep trying to take a high road but you're the troll here not me. i haven't addressed you in 5 pages but you felt the need to jump into a conversation you had no involvement with and try to make yourself look better by saying stupid shit about "beatch" (which i couldn't type without laughing at how absurd that spelling is) slapping someone. flat out lying.

and you still haven't posted any proof.. just call people names when they call you out for not doing so.
 
you keep saying a lot of crap and keep trying to take a high road but you're the troll here not me. i haven't addressed you in 5 pages but you felt the need to jump into a conversation you had no involvement with and try to make yourself look better by saying stupid shit about "beatch" (which i couldn't type without laughing at how absurd that spelling is) slapping someone. flat out lying.

and you still haven't posted any proof.. just call people names when they call you out for not doing so.

Damn Right killed you in his debate.

You never gave a reason as to why LL is a sellout when his point seems very logical.

The song was about how silly and wrong stereotypes can be.
 
Damn Right killed you in his debate.

You never gave a reason as to why LL is a sellout when his point seems very logical.

The song was about how silly and wrong stereotypes can be.

its funny. you two seem to be the only one seeing it that way. and i didn't even go into depth with the debate as the guy he mainly debated with did so how i was murdered i have no idea. he never provided any proof. if we can just say shit without anything to back it up then everybody wins every debate.

and im editing this post now. i went back and looked at what was actually said and the only thing i said to him is i dont think he would make this type of song in the 80's or 90's
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to which he responded if we look at x and y

and he never presented his side of x and y

so how in the world is that killing someone in a debate?

stop it bruh..

the song and the horrible message it conveys is what this entire thread is about.

and you side with someone who presented nothing other than made up shit?

smh
 
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Damn Right killed you in his debate.

You never gave a reason as to why LL is a sellout when his point seems very logical.

The song was about how silly and wrong stereotypes can be.

This song was also about how clueless LL is about history and looking like a bootlicking sambo in the process.
 
From Cracked.com

#10. Every Lynyrd Skynyrd Fan Loves the Confederate Flag

here are about 30 seconds of this song that aren't filled with unintentionally racist nonsense, and those would be the first 30 seconds of the song, before anyone actually starts singing. Once that happens, though, the floodgates burst wide open, and the first thing that comes rushing out is this line:

To the man that waited on me at the Starbucks down on Main, I hope you understand
When I put on that T-shirt, the only thing I meant to say is I'm a Skynyrd fan

If you're not following, and you definitely are not, what he's implying is that some punk kid working at Starbucks mistook his Lynyrd Skynyrd shirt that just happened to have a Confederate flag on it as some kind of endorsement of the flag itself.

First of all, no one working at Starbucks "understands" Lynyrd Skynyrd. If they do, they're too old to be working at Starbucks. Second, wearing a Skynyrd shirt with the Confederate flag on it is totally an endorsement of the flag. The only way the "It's just a Skynyrd shirt" defense works is if there are no Lynyrd Skynyrd shirts available that don't feature a Confederate flag. That's not the case, though. The Confederate flag isn't part of the official Skynyrd logo. They do have T-shirts that don't feature that flag...

#9. It's Unclear Why the Confederate Flag Is a Problem

It takes exactly one more sentence for Brad Paisley to take the "implying that the Confederate flag is merely a band logo" situation from terrible to absurd. Check out this line (with my own added emphasis):

The red flag on my chest somehow is like the elephant in the corner of the South
And I just walked him right in the room
Just a proud rebel son with an ol' can of worms

Yes, Brad Paisley, somehow the flag that represented the side of the Civil War that fought for slavery has become a touchy subject. Here's hoping science can piece together that mystery for us someday. In the meantime, how about you solve the mystery of who in the fuck calls the Confederate flag the "red flag"?

If Brad Paisley had a tenth of the courage he thinks releasing this garbage makes it seem like he has, the line there would have been "the rebel flag on my chest." That's what a real racist would call it, but Brad Paisley has to cop out and throw in the "rebel" part a few lines later.

It's worth noting here that it took exactly one line for Brad Paisley to abandon the "It's just a Skynyrd shirt" defense and start sticking up for the Confederate flag itself.

#8. Brad Paisley Sings of His Hard Racial Times

Alright, so Brad Paisley has established that he's offended "one of those people" (baristas) by wearing a band shirt with a Confederate flag on it. What to do now? The logical answer is to maybe examine the situation more closely to try and understand why his actions would offend this person.

Nope. Instead, Brad Paisley goes on the defensive:

Lookin' like I got a lot to learn but from my point of view
I'm just a white man comin' to you from the Southland
Tryin' to understand what it's like not to be
I'm proud of where I'm from but not everything we've done
And it ain't like you and me can rewrite history
Our generation didn't start this nation
We're still pickin' up the pieces, walkin' on eggshells, fightin' over yesterday

So the problem here isn't that the Confederate flag is still widely viewed as a symbol of racism by a lot of people; it's that this Starbucks employee, what, just doesn't understand Lynyrd Skynyrd lore well enough? What the hell is the point here?

Speaking of points, it's at this one that I'd like to mention that this article was supposed to be a Quick Fix, which is the section of the site where we sometimes manage to contain our rants to 700 words or less. As of right now, we're at almost 1,000 words and are still just talking about the first verse and part of the first chorus.

I intentionally left the last line of that first chorus out when I posted it above, because it deserves an entry all to itself.

#7. Brad Paisley Is Not Ashamed
Let's skip the melodrama and get right to that last line of the chorus:

And caught between Southern pride and Southern blame

Come ON, Brad Paisley! Who in the hell doesn't use the word "shame" there instead? It works just as well lyrically and rhythmically and all that, but it also sends the exact same message in a far less douche-y way. Using the word "shame" would at least imply that you understand the gravity of the events that people, for very good reason, associate with the Confederate flag. And the beauty of it is that you can use the word without ever having to specify if you, personally, are the one who's ashamed. You could just mean that you think it's a shame that slavery isn't a thing anymore. People would still take it as a conciliatory gesture, though, because that's how "Southern shame" reads to a non-racist.

Instead, Brad Paisley went with the word "blame" because, at the end of the day, he's the real victim of slavery. An entire region of the country decided to rebel when the president said they couldn't buy and sell black people anymore, made a flag to indicate that they were indeed on a different side from the rest of us on that issue, and, because of all that, poor Brad Paisley can't wear that flag in front of "libs" without someone getting their panties in a wad.

And with all that said, Brad Paisley has every right to wear that shirt, because that's how this country works. What he's mistaken about, though, is that nobody has a reason to mind when he does.

#6. Brad Paisley Still Has a Bone to Pick About the Civil War

The most baffling thing about this song is how it just keeps upping the potentially-with-a-chance-of-definitely racist ante with each passing second. You would think there isn't much more ground to cover in terms of being offensive. Not within the confines of a major-label-approved song by a prominent artist, anyway, but you'd be wrong. Have a look at this history lesson:

They called it Reconstruction, fixed the buildings, dried some tears
We're still sifting through the rubble after 150 years

Unless I'm missing something here, what Brad Paisley is getting at is that, despite the war having ended over a century and a half ago, people in the South still feel like things haven't been sufficiently resolved? I put a question mark at the end of that sentence because I'm hoping someone will chime in with an emphatic "No, that's not what he means at all!" The problem is, I don't think I'd believe them or him or anyone else. The only aim of Reconstruction was to fix the South after the war. "We're still sifting through the rubble" very clearly implies that things are still broken.

If that's true ... good. Don't fight for the right to own slaves if you don't want your part of the country burned to the ground. Surely Brad Paisley isn't waiting around for someone to apologize for that, right?

#5. LL Cool J Apologizes for Burning Down the South

Right, this really happens. At least that's what LL Cool J is getting at with this line:

You should try to get to know me, I really wish you would
Now my chains are gold but I'm still misunderstood
I wasn't there when Sherman's march turned the South into firewood

So LL Cool J is the one apologizing here? Not once has Brad Paisley said, "Hey, I'm sorry my ancestors owned slaves, but I wasn't there when it happened." But now LL Cool J is the one nervously explaining that he didn't torch the South? LL Cool J is the one who feels guilty? LL Cool J is the one who hopes people can look past the transgressions of those who came before him and see him instead for the all-around better person he is today?

And what the fuck is that "now my chains are gold" line supposed to mean? Is LL Cool J making a covert statement on the rampant materialism in rap music? Of course not; that would be kind of clever and interesting. Nothing of that sort is happening in this song. It's just all bad. And if LL is apologizing for the South losing the Civil War, what else is he willing to apologize for?

#4. LL Cool J Apologizes for Wearing Necessary Hair Products

Because nothing is going to get resolved until black people accept their role in making the Confederate flag such a polarizing symbol, LL Cool J doesn't contain his apologies to the transgressions of the past. For example, the white man has to put up with seeing black dudes wearing do-rags all the time -- what's up with that shit? Is nobody going to apologize for that before the white man agrees to forgive?

Yeah, of course, LL Cool J is going to do it:

If you don't judge my do-rag, I won't judge your red flag

Did anyone else's head explode just now? Even if the only purpose of a do-rag was to intimidate white people, it still wouldn't warrant being mentioned in the same sentence as the goddamn Confederate flag. And besides, nobody wears a do-rag to scare people. They serve a legitimate purpose for people with a particular type of hair. Specifically, the type of hair you have to apologize to redneck twats for having so they don't feel uncomfortable putting their "I voted for slavery" stickers all over the place.

#3. LL Cool J Is Bad at Starting a Dialogue

Before we get to those last couple points, let's pause to revisit something that, for the sake of continuity, I skipped over previously. This is how LL Cool J starts his verse:

Dear Mr. White Man, I hope you understand
What the world is really like when you're livin' in the hood
Just because my pants are saggin' doesn't mean I'm up to no good

Is "Mr. White Man" really the only phrase LL Cool J could come up with when trying to address the white race as a whole? Or was he just talking to racists? If so, are only men racist? Is that a new thing?

Also, if Brad Paisley started this song by singing the words "Dear Mr. Black Man" and then started running down all the reasons people in poor neighborhoods should stop worrying about police brutality so much, this song wouldn't have even made it out of the studio.

Am I saying there's some kind of double standard there? Sure I am. It's just a double standard I don't give a shit about. I don't need to start my speech to black people with the phrase "Dear Mr. Black Man," so what do I care if I'm not "allowed" to? It's not like doing that kind of stuff makes you look awesome, you know? Brad and James (Todd Smith) are learning that, among other things, right now.

Oh, and since I can't think of another good place to mention it, let's all just pause one more second to appreciate the absurdity of this Cool J line:

The relationship between the Mason-Dixon needs some fixin'

The area between "the Mason-Dixon" is simply a line known, of course, as "the Mason-Dixon Line." There are no people, places, or relationships on that line. There is nothing to fix. It is merely a line. You know, like the one that's about to be crossed in the next entry!

#2. LL Cool J Makes the Worst Reparations Deal Imaginable

So LL Cool J has gone on record to reassure white people that, even if those who supported his right to not be property may have foolishly stomped that idea and the backwoods region that supported it into rubble, he wasn't a part of that decision. Where do you go from here?

There's only one way to top apologizing for fighting back against the tyranny of slavery, and that's to offer up the most lopsided compromise in the history of interpersonal relationships:

If you don't judge my gold chains, I'll forget the iron chains.

Motherfucking what?!?!?! I think I can just shoot down that deal on behalf of everyone right now. You'll forgive white people for slavery if they stop questioning your jewelry? Is that really the final sticking point when it comes to race relations? The white man's acceptance of fancy jewelry? If so, racism ended when the A-Team became popular.

Who knew it could be that easy? Surely this has to be it, though, right? Now we're done. How much worse can this get? There's not much left to do short of, I don't know, having LL Cool J give a shout out to Robert E. Lee?

#1. LL Cool J Gives a Shout Out to Robert E. Lee

Sure, of course he does. How else are you going to end a song like this? By just stopping the tape somewhere in the middle and burning the studio where this crime against society happened straight to the ground? No, that would be too easy, and far too desirable of an outcome. Things this terrible just don't come to that kind of conclusion.

Instead, the last thing society's right to be outraged when rednecks drape themselves in Confederate flags sees before LL Cool J finally shoots it in the face is this:

RIP Robert E. Lee but I've gotta thank Abraham Lincoln for freeing me, know what I mean?

Yes, LL Cool J, we do know what you mean. We know exactly what you mean. If anyone doesn't understand what you're saying, it's probably you and Brad Paisley.

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-10-...om-song-about-ending-racism_p2/#ixzz2QCfJWNjp
 
@gullah jack

Whoever wrote that article was ON POINT....the part where he talked about the lopsided trade off ll offered up of don't question my gold chain and I'll forget the iron chains he was like MOTHERFUCKING WHAT??? I felt that shit.....great summation

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The song was cleverly written. All it did was expose all of the individuals who still cling on to racist and prejudice views. It is very hard to get people to admit they have racist or prejudice ways. Like the old saying.....A hit dog will holler.

Only individuals with racial or prejudice views found a different meaning in this song. Generally one will find what they are looking for. It is similar to showing a group of individuals a picture and some will come up with a different meaning based on how they view life.

The songs meaning was pretty clear. It was about how two individuals looked to overcome racism.

The song had a powerful message. Just because someone has a confederate flag does not mean they are racist. Just because a black man wear a do-rag and baggy pant does not mean they are a thug.

Black folk need to stop making excuses. There is a black president so we can no longer play the race card. No one is stopping us from succeeding but ourselves because we make every excuse in the world about how we can succeed
Dude do you ever stop.

i mean seriously,do you ever stop with your bullshit.

all that fuckery you typing,what does that have to do with the topic at hand.
 
i can't believe it all over again.
hearing the comments again

wow

white dude said don't be victims it happened SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long ago

and ll said "right''

i still can't believe this shit.

met
wtf

He should try telling the jews don't worry about the holocaust it was a long time ago,see what happens next.
 
yo gullah jack that shit is funny as fuck but it's so on point it's perfect.

good drop.
 
Why would a bruh use "brown turd" as a handle?

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Why would a bruh use "brown turd" as a handle?

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Why would brownturd be associated with a white boy?

My handle has no other meaning other then to log on to bgol. I understand that some peoples handle has some sort of meaning but mine doesn't.

I did not know what BGOL was so I picked the dumbest name. I came t Bgol to cop a music cd and to download this video some dude had posted on another forum. I did not use my normal handle because I did not trust the site. Porn sites were crazy for viruses and hacking peoples personal info.

After the various topics and convos, I kept coming back. Mainly I came for the business knowledge as I wanted to do something on my own. Never changed the name and just stuck with it :dunno:
 
It's hilarious watching dudes throw their backs out trying to defend and explain this bullshit. :lol::lol:
 
i can't believe it all over again.
hearing the comments again

wow

white dude said don't be victims it happened SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long ago

and ll said "right''

i still can't believe this shit.

met
wtf

sorry I will never listen to that song on my own.. but gotdamn... is ll really that fuckin stupid.

and see how cacs speak in codes..

study that shit....

talking about he is a skynard fan... instead of just saying I am a fuckin redneck confederate flag waving racist and proud..

this coon is like yeah he is....!!!

I want tooo laugh at the stupidity of it all but its waaay to fuckin destructive, pathetic and disgustingly sad.


I had no idea ll was that fuckin stupid...

weak bitch.... cant trust a lot of those ll types, they ride with you, the step on your head the chance they get.


he going out like a gotdamn bitchified need whitey approval super sucker sambo...

the worst kind of human to exist...
 
Why would brownturd be associated with a white boy?

My handle has no other meaning other then to log on to bgol. I understand that some peoples handle has some sort of meaning but mine doesn't.

I did not know what BGOL was so I picked the dumbest name. I came t Bgol to cop a music cd and to download this video some dude had posted on another forum. I did not use my normal handle because I did not trust the site. Porn sites were crazy for viruses and hacking peoples personal info.

After the various topics and convos, I kept coming back. Mainly I came for the business knowledge as I wanted to do something on my own. Never changed the name and just stuck with it :dunno:

dude when was the fuckn last time you heard a black man use the muthafuckin word..

TURD..

instead of saying shit.....

there are words black people just don't use, turd is one of them....

like we call cacs, you white bread chicken turd summabytch...

we just say chicken shit, trust me....
 
Why would brownturd be associated with a white boy?

My handle has no other meaning other then to log on to bgol. I understand that some peoples handle has some sort of meaning but mine doesn't.

I did not know what BGOL was so I picked the dumbest name. I came t Bgol to cop a music cd and to download this video some dude had posted on another forum. I did not use my normal handle because I did not trust the site. Porn sites were crazy for viruses and hacking peoples personal info.

After the various topics and convos, I kept coming back. Mainly I came for the business knowledge as I wanted to do something on my own. Never changed the name and just stuck with it :dunno:

dude when was the fuckn last time you heard a black man use the muthafuckin word..

TURD..

instead of saying shit.....

there are words black people just don't use, turd is one of them....

you actin

like we used to call cacs, you white bread chicken turd summabytch...

we just used chicken SHIT..trust me.. it was never ever ever ever chicken TURD...
 
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Ya'll wasting your time arguing with BrownNERD! Go back and look at almost ANY THREAD topic and you'll notice he takes the opposite side of every discussion.

HE's A TROLL JUST FUCKING WITH YA'LL!
 
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Ya'll wasting your time arguing with BrownNERD! Go back and look at almost ANY THREAD topic and you'll notice he takes the opposite side of every discussion.

HE's A TROLL JUST FUCKING WITH YA'LL!

he takes the opposite side of every single thread, its crazy, its not even devil advocacy, its fucking trolling, jus ignore him like u would blunt or halo or acur
 
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