Sorry, Gun Nuts: Hitler Actually Relaxed Most Gun Laws:

And who used it? Who are the "gun nuts" from the subject line?

source: CBS Philly

John Rocker Compares Obama To Hitler, Says Less Gun Control Would Have Prevented Holocaust

You remember John Rocker, right? In that “I remember the name, and I remember I don’t like him, but I don’t remember why” sort of way?

Rocker is the former Atlanta Braves reliever who came under fire when he made racist, homophobic statements about New York and its public transit system.

Well Rocker has something to say about the gun control debate that’s had a higher profile in the wake of several mass murders using guns in the United States. I’ll let him say it in his editorial:

Mr. Obama wants to severely neuter the Second Amendment and disarm the law-abiding citizens of this nation, a similar act of tyrants throughout the 20th century such as Stalin, Mao and Hitler. Absolute certainties are a rare thing in this life, but one I think can be collectively agreed upon is the undeniable fact that the Holocaust would have never taken place had the Jewish citizenry of Hitler’s Germany had the right to bear arms and defended themselves with those arms.

I’ll leave that as it is.

You should understand just as well as anyone. Why did anyone, in response to the recession caused by easy money policies, call for giving the financial industry another $20 trillion in easy money. Then all of you said thank you for saving the world.

Why do people look at a job problem among poor people then suggest further restrictions which increases the cost on low-income employers?

If you want to know why an organization called the National Rifle Association wants to double down on guns and increase access, then look at yourself.

Short answer is people are fucking stupid and quite enthusiastic about advocating destructive policies when they think they'll be removed from it's effect.

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source: CBS Philly

John Rocker Compares Obama To Hitler, Says Less Gun Control Would Have Prevented Holocaust

You remember John Rocker, right? In that “I remember the name, and I remember I don’t like him, but I don’t remember why” sort of way?

Rocker is the former Atlanta Braves reliever who came under fire when he made racist, homophobic statements about New York and its public transit system.

Well Rocker has something to say about the gun control debate that’s had a higher profile in the wake of several mass murders using guns in the United States. I’ll let him say it in his editorial:

Mr. Obama wants to severely neuter the Second Amendment and disarm the law-abiding citizens of this nation, a similar act of tyrants throughout the 20th century such as Stalin, Mao and Hitler. Absolute certainties are a rare thing in this life, but one I think can be collectively agreed upon is the undeniable fact that the Holocaust would have never taken place had the Jewish citizenry of Hitler’s Germany had the right to bear arms and defended themselves with those arms.

I’ll leave that as it is.



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I don't see how anyone doubts you're a troll. John Rocker is your incentive for starting this thread? What discussion was supposed to be had? My guess is no discussion was the troll-goal.
 
source: Ron Paul.com



Gun Control: Protecting Terrorists and Despots
by Ron Paul

December 9, 2008

Tragically, over the Thanksgiving holiday, the world was reminded how evil and cruel people can be. According to emerging accounts of the events in India, about a dozen well-armed and devastatingly well-trained terrorists laid siege on the city of Mumbai, killing almost two hundred people, and terrorizing thousands.

Regardless of the reasons, the indiscriminate shooting on masses of unarmed and defenseless people is chilling and reprehensible. How were these terrorists able to continue so long, relatively unchallenged, killing so many?

India’s gun laws are her business, of course. However, once the shock of these events and the initial reaction of fear passes, Americans should take away a valuable lesson about real homeland security and gun control from this tragedy.

Gun control advocates tell us that removing guns from society makes us safer. If that were the case why do the worst shootings happen in gun free zones, like schools? And while accidents do happen, aggressive, terroristic shootings like this are unheard of at gun and knife shows, or military bases. It bears repeating that an armed society truly is a polite society.

The fact is that firearm technology exists. It cannot be uninvented. As long as there is metalworking and welding capability, it matters not what gun laws are imposed upon law-abiding people. Those that wish to have guns, and disregard the law, will have guns. Gun control makes violence safer and more effective for the aggressive, whether the aggressor is a terrorist or a government.

History shows us that another tragedy of gun laws is genocide. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Hitler</SPAN>, for example, knew well that in order to enact his “final solution,” disarmament was a necessary precursor. While it is not always the case that an unarmed populace WILL be killed by their government, if a government is going to kill its own people, it MUST disarm them first so they cannot fight back. Disarmament must happen at a time when overall trust in government is high, and under the guise of safety for the people, or perhaps the children. Knowing that any government, no matter how idealistically started, can become despotic, the Founding Fathers enabled the future freedom of Americans by enacting the second amendment.

In our own country, we should be ever vigilant against any attempts to disarm the people, especially in this economic downturn. I expect violent crime to rise sharply in the coming days, and as states and municipalities are even more financially strained, the police will be even less able or willing to respond to crime. In many areas, local police could become more and more absorbed with revenue generating activities, like minor traffic violations and the asset forfeiture opportunities of non-violent drug offenses. Your safety has always, ultimately been your own responsibility, but never more so than now. People have a natural right to defend themselves. Governments that take that away from their people should be highly suspect.
 
Are you finally fully embracing your nature and no longer pretending to be in denial?

Ron Paul quote from 2008?

More proof that your goal was never to encourage discussion.
 
I love how you guys make these type of statements as if it doesn't apply to you as well.

You believe the gun industry views the massacre of children as a net positive because gun sales spike in the short term.

All of you are a detriment to sensible debate just like the people you hate on the other side of the issue.

Why do you use President Obama in your klan recruitment ads and..

Why do you always use Hitler to the scare the public to keep assault weapons and at the same time put the swastika in the middle of your confederate flags?

-VG
 
Why do you use President Obama in your klan recruitment ads and..

Why do you always use Hitler to the scare the public to keep assault weapons and at the same time put the swastika in the middle of your confederate flags?

-VG
All of you are a detriment to sensible debate just like the people you hate on the other side of the issue.
 
All of you are a detriment to sensible debate just like the people you hate on the other side of the issue.

You seem to use that word hate a lot. The only types that are talking about shooting people are the gun nuts.


Projecting again.
 
Thoughtone I do not know that much about the gun control with Hitler. I read through your post kind of fast. I have read that jews were hated because Hitler accused them of causing Germany to lose a war.

When will the locked out finally have a place? What will ever happen to the lock out? And when I refer to locked out, I am talking about the homeless, Ex-felonies, etc.

We know for a fact that America and Israel kills hundreds of thousands of unarmed people all the time. They cannot be controlled but tell everybody else what they can and cannot do.

A lot of ex-felonies live dangerous lives. And I am not talking about lives of crimes. Most of blacks are locked up. All over the world blacks are being killed or overpowered. We act like the killing of blacks in South Africa and Libya was all right. Nothing done but a lot of blacks being killed. This is a serious case of plantation life in disguise.

We watched America kill almost 3 thousand people right here in America and got paid for it in our face.

If a slave got a gun it was not to protect himself with. But to use for the advancement of the plantation.

http://oneblacknation.webs.com/

http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html

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You seem to use that word hate a lot. The only types that are talking about shooting people are the gun nuts.


Projecting again.

Yep. Usually when you ask the klan this kind of question that involves thought, they run and hide. Totally expected. Same kinds of answers I got lurking on freeper. Hollow and meaningless.

-VG
 
Thoughtone I do not know that much about the gun control with Hitler. I read through your post kind of fast. I have read that jews were hated because Hitler accused them of causing Germany to lose a war.

When will the locked out finally have a place? What will ever happen to the lock out? And when I refer to locked out, I am talking about the homeless, Ex-felonies, etc.

We know for a fact that America and Israel kills hundreds of thousands of unarmed people all the time. They cannot be controlled but tell everybody else what they can and cannot do.

A lot of ex-felonies live dangerous lives. And I am not talking about lives of crimes. Most of blacks are locked up. All over the world blacks are being killed or overpowered. We act like the killing of blacks in South Africa and Libya was all right. Nothing done but a lot of blacks being killed. This is a serious case of plantation life in disguise.

We watched America kill almost 3 thousand people right here in America and got paid for it in our face.

If a slave got a gun it was not to protect himself with. But to use for the advancement of the plantation.

http://oneblacknation.webs.com/

http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html

blacknation.jpg

I have read that jews were hated because Hitler accused them of causing Germany to lose a war.

If a slave got a gun it was not to protect himself with. But to use for the advancement of the plantation.

Is this a product of the educational system?
 
I made a post about the common logic between three people and three ideas from those three people.

I would still like for you to expound, in detail, on your common logic theory. Hell, you might be right; but I would like to know what it is you're claiming to be right, about.
 
I would still like for you to expound, in detail, on your common logic theory. Hell, you might be right; but I would like to know what it is you're claiming to be right, about.
What don't you understand about my previous post?

I cited three people with three different opinions with the same conclusion regarding the merits of the people they disagree with on the gun issue.

What was unclear?
 
Its all clear Bro. You say things and when asked to explain, you find every way possible to avoid. Nothings clearer.





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Its all clear Bro. You say things and when asked to explain, you find every way possible to avoid. Nothings clearer.





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If it's all clear to you (like I knew it was), then stop pretending that's it's not. It's a waste of time.
 
Speaking of wasting time; stop with the non-answer answers.



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Que, I have a philosophy when posting on this board. Maybe others share it.

I'm here to waste time, not anyone else's.

Don't waste time asking me a question you will think negatively of by default. It's fine if you think my answers are substandard and you aren't satisfied with them, just don't keep asking for responses that you know you won't like.

It's a matter of courtesy to one another at that point.
 
Que, I have a philosophy when posting on this board. Maybe others share it.

I'm here to waste time, not anyone else's.

Don't waste time asking me a question you will think negatively of by default. It's fine if you think my answers are substandard and you aren't satisfied with them, just don't keep asking for responses that you know you won't like.

It's a matter of courtesy to one another at that point.

You presumed I wouldn't like your answers. You seem to presume a lot -- especially when it appears that others may not share you point of view.

I asked in pursuit of understanding -- hell, if I didn't really want to try to understand where you were coming from, I sure as hell wouldn't have asked.

Thank you, nevertheless.

As you seem to increasingly put it: your side won.



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You presumed I wouldn't like your answers. You seem to presume a lot -- especially when it appears that others may not share you point of view.

I asked in pursuit of understanding -- hell, if I didn't really want to try to understand where you were coming from, I sure as hell wouldn't have asked.

Thank you, nevertheless.

As you seem to increasingly put it: your side won.



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I'm going by your statements, which I'm respecting, that my responses are non-answers. Unless your actions are insanity, why are you asking follow-up questions when you've rated all the previous answers as a waste of time. Which once again, i'm fine with that, but what's the point.
 
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For one who does not read!

source: The Rude Pundit

In fact, Hitler and the Third Reich opened up gun ownership even more, even if they did ban all Jews from owning guns. Yeah, the 1938 law said "a hunting license entitles the holder to carry firearms and handguns." That was new. It also lowered the age of gun ownership from 20 to 18 and changed one-year permits to three-year.


As I said if you are able to read, this was covered months ago!
 
"serious person"? Same tactics, new day!

You're acting as though he never advocated gun registration?

Read the quote bruh!

No, I'm not. T1 attacked your idea, I attacked the very tactic of pulling the Hitler card.
While we've always had respectful discourse, you've had a history of relying on bad sources so a quote in a gif means nothing to me and has no weight.
 
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