STUDY: One In Four Private Sector Workers Earn Less Than $10 An Hour

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The last increase in the federal minimum wage was passed into law four years ago today, but the current minimum wage falls far short of meeting the needs of the average worker. To match the buying power of the 1968 minimum wage, for instance, today’s would need to be increased to $10.55 an hour.

And yet, more than a quarter of America’s private sector workers make less than $10 an hour, according to a report released this month by the National Employment Law Project:
In 2011, more than one in four private sector jobs (26 percent) were low‐wage positions paying less than $10 per hour. These jobs, moreover, were concentrated in industries where low‐wage workers make up a substantial share – in some cases more than half – of the entire workforce.
Worse yet, the share of low-wage jobs is increasing, as five industries that are comprised primarily of low-wage workers have grown faster than total employment since the end of the Great Recession, as this NELP chart shows:

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While the share of low-wage jobs continues to rise, so to do the profits of the corporations that utilize low-wage workers. Two-thirds of America’s low-wage workers are employed by corporations with more than 100 employees, and the nation’s biggest low-wage employers are faring well since the end of the recession. 92 percent were profitable last year, and 63 percent are more profitable than they were before the recession, according to the report.

And even as they employ low-wage workers, chief executives continue to rake in massive salaries, as AlterNet’s Sarah Jaffe notes. At the 50 companies that employ the largest number of low-wage workers, CEOs made an average of $9.4 million — roughly 450 times more than the gross income of a full-time worker who makes $10 an hour.
 
And these cacs get mad when people don't want these jobs, bitching about entitlement and welfare all day. What they expect you to do?
 
I find it funny they call Arts, Entertainment, & Recreation an INDUSTRY.

Food services is an INDUSTRY?
Retail Trade is an INDUSTRY?
Accomodation is an INDUSTRY?

How the United States has fallen.

There was a time when mining, manufacturing, and production were called INDUSTRIES, not real estate, finance, and insurance.

When did SERVICES become INDUSTRIES?

I always thought that INDUSTRY involved manufacturing, production, mining, processing, or milling.

The United States is turning into a cruise boat economy (hotels, casinos, tourism, food service, and paper pushing). What a great future lies ahead for the younger generations.

And the President is the cruise director for our voyage over the cliff.
 
I find it funny they call Arts, Entertainment, & Recreation an INDUSTRY.

Food services is an INDUSTRY?
Retail Trade is an INDUSTRY?
Accomodation is an INDUSTRY?

How the United States has fallen.

There was a time when mining, manufacturing, and production were called INDUSTRIES, not real estate, finance, and insurance.

When did SERVICES become INDUSTRIES?

I always thought that INDUSTRY involved manufacturing, production, mining, processing, or milling.

The United States is turning into a cruise boat economy (hotels, casinos, tourism, food service, and paper pushing). What a great future lies ahead for the younger generations.

And the President is the cruise director for our voyage over the cliff.

I find it funny they call Arts, Entertainment, & Recreation an INDUSTRY.


Webster: industry


: a department or branch of a craft, art, business, or manufacture; especially : one that employs a large personnel and capital especially in manufacturing


It has always been a major industry. Especially in California and New York. It's the second largest American exporter. Movies and music. Have you every been on a movie set? They just don't get done by magic. There is a whole army of skilled and unskilled labor involved.
 
Webster: industry





It has always been a major industry. Especially in California and New York. It's the second largest American exporter. Movies and music. Have you every been on a movie set? They just don't get done by magic. There is a whole army of skilled and unskilled labor involved.

In the US, when it was an economic powerhouse, industries were coal, rubber, iron & steel, auto manufacturing, aluminum, gold, glass, lead, copper, corn, wheat, and oil.

Today the country is supposed to survive on celebrities and casinos? That's Cuba just before Castro took control.

Industry, to me, involves providing for the necessities of life... food, clothing, and shelter... and transportation.

You cannot have a country the size of the United States built on a Los Angeles economic model... shopping, fast food, hotels, and movie stars.

That's not a country, that is a Caribbean getaway.
 
In the US, when it was an economic powerhouse, industries were coal, rubber, iron & steel, auto manufacturing, aluminum, gold, glass, lead, copper, corn, wheat, and oil.

Today the country is supposed to survive on celebrities and casinos? That's Cuba just before Castro took control.

Industry, to me, involves providing for the necessities of life... food, clothing, and shelter... and transportation.

You cannot have a country the size of the United States built on a Los Angeles economic model... shopping, fast food, hotels, and movie stars.

That's not a country, that is a Caribbean getaway.

The movie industry has been an intergal party of a strong economy for years. It is virtually impossible to export that industry. The world loves American culture for better or for worse.

True, it is imperative that we rebuild our manufacturing base. The reality is, technology, innovation and efficiency as well as politics and corporate graft has caused us to slide.

The only one claiming that we build our economy on a "Los Angeles economic mode"l is you. I t is a part, just a part.
 
The movie industry has been an intergal party of a strong economy for years. It is virtually impossible to export that industry. The world loves American culture for better or for worse.

True, it is imperative that we rebuild our manufacturing base. The reality is, technology, innovation and efficiency as well as politics and corporate graft has caused us to slide.

The only one claiming that we build our economy on a "Los Angeles economic mode"l is you. I t is a part, just a part.
Don't lump technology, innovation and efficiency with politics and graft. Technology, innovation and efficiency made it so your entire life isn't filled with farmwork just to feed yourself. Politics and graft are designed to leech off technology, innovation and efficiency.
 
Don't lump technology, innovation and efficiency with politics and graft. Technology, innovation and efficiency made it so your entire life isn't filled with farmwork just to feed yourself. Politics and graft are designed to leech off technology, innovation and efficiency.


Bullshit! Many jobs are obsolete! The reality is that some skills are no longer needed and some jobs can be done cheaper with machinery. Either way, a person loses a job.

For instance, farms can be run with less workers. This is why many people leave those farm towns for work in other industries. Cars can be painted faster, cheaper and with more consistent results with robots. Can those workers be retrained? Of course. Are business willing to spend the money to retrain them? Not without kicking and screaming.

These companies are making money head over heels. Their is no reason why a living wage cannot be established. It's cheaper than have people supplement their incomes with government safety nets.
 
The movie industry has been an intergal party of a strong economy for years. It is virtually impossible to export that industry. The world loves American culture for better or for worse.

True, it is imperative that we rebuild our manufacturing base. The reality is, technology, innovation and efficiency as well as politics and corporate graft has caused us to slide.

The only one claiming that we build our economy on a "Los Angeles economic mode"l is you. I t is a part, just a part.

You were the one calling entertainment an "industry" and saying it is an INTEGRAL part of the economy. I wish you understood how bad that is for you and the rest of the United States, if it is remotely true.

Does China need an entertainment "industry" to be an economic power?

How about India? Or Russia? Or Brazil? Or Japan?

When was the last time you enjoyed any entertainment from Saudi Arabia?

Entertainment is a pure luxury. It is totally unnecessary as it exists in the United States. Rather, entertainment is a propaganda machine, a mind control device that is used to rob the rest of the world of its resources by convincing them of America's superiority and their inferiority. It is filled with white males who are saving the world, or in charge, or calling the shots, or getting the sympathy or the girl. That is not going to last forever, because the rest of the world is going to realize what they are losing is not worth the price and fantasy of American entertainment. You can make entertainment anywhere. You can't find oil or grow food anywhere.

You eat. You burn coal, gas, or wood for energy. You use things to move around (car, bus, train, bicycle, boat, etc). You live in a house. You wear clothes. These are things everyone in the world NEEDS. No one NEEDS entertainment from the United States for life, liberty, nor to have property.

Not enough people want to work anymore in the United States. Everyone wants to be a celebrity, a star, a lottery winner, an athlete, famous, a Kardashian. Don't want to do anything but just be paid for existing.
 
You were the one calling entertainment an "industry" and saying it is an INTEGRAL part of the economy. I wish you understood how bad that is for you and the rest of the United States, if it is remotely true.

Does China need an entertainment "industry" to be an economic power?

How about India? Or Russia? Or Brazil? Or Japan?

When was the last time you enjoyed any entertainment from Saudi Arabia?

Entertainment is a pure luxury. It is totally unnecessary as it exists in the United States. Rather, entertainment is a propaganda machine, a mind control device that is used to rob the rest of the world of its resources by convincing them of America's superiority and their inferiority. It is filled with white males who are saving the world, or in charge, or calling the shots, or getting the sympathy or the girl. That is not going to last forever, because the rest of the world is going to realize what they are losing is not worth the price and fantasy of American entertainment. You can make entertainment anywhere. You can't find oil or grow food anywhere.

You eat. You burn coal, gas, or wood for energy. You use things to move around (car, bus, train, bicycle, boat, etc). You live in a house. You wear clothes. These are things everyone in the world NEEDS. No one NEEDS entertainment from the United States for life, liberty, nor to have property.

Not enough people want to work anymore in the United States. Everyone wants to be a celebrity, a star, a lottery winner, an athlete, famous, a Kardashian. Don't want to do anything but just be paid for existing.

You were the one calling entertainment an "industry"

I didn't call it an industry, Webster's dictionary did.

Does China need an entertainment "industry" to be an economic power?

China pirates billions of dollars from the US entertainment industry.

How about India? Or Russia? Or Brazil? Or Japan?

Bollywood (India) is the second largest movie industry in the world.

Those other nations do have film industries and you can bet that they wish they had the film industry we had.

I'm not sure if you truly understand economics.
 
Democrats see illegal aliens and their children as future Democratic voters. Republicans are terrified of being called racists and alienating the ethnic lobbies.

U.S. companies see immigrants, legal or illegal, as an endless source of cheap labor to keep wage costs down.

How much of this statement could be responsible for the decline in wages? hmmmmm!
 
Webster: industry





It has always been a major industry. Especially in California and New York. It's the second largest American exporter. Movies and music. Have you every been on a movie set? They just don't get done by magic. There is a whole army of skilled and unskilled labor involved.

:lol:
He got you too, T? Cruise lacks knowledge, information, and imagination and thinks everyone is like him and resists any input that runs contrary to his myopic view even with mounds of evidence.
But good luck trying to help him.

In an effort to steer back to the OP
As unions and their influence weakens, the wages and living standards of working class Americans lessens, these things are connected. Even non union workers benefit from the effort of unions and lose out as they falter.
 
Democrats see illegal aliens and their children as future Democratic voters. Republicans are terrified of being called racists and alienating the ethnic lobbies.

U.S. companies see immigrants, legal or illegal, as an endless source of cheap labor to keep wage costs down.

How much of this statement could be responsible for the decline in wages? hmmmmm!


So eliminate so called "legal or illegal aliens" and the wages will rise?
 
:lol:
He got you too, T? Cruise lacks knowledge, information, and imagination and thinks everyone is like him and resists any input that runs contrary to his myopic view even with mounds of evidence.
But good luck trying to help him.

In an effort to steer back to the OP
As unions and their influence weakens, the wages and living standards of working class Americans lessens, these things are connected. Even non union workers benefit from the effort of unions and lose out as they falter.

But good luck trying to help him.

I was being diplomatic. He doesn't even see the contradictions in is statements.
 
Bullshit! Many jobs are obsolete! The reality is that some skills are no longer needed and some jobs can be done cheaper with machinery. Either way, a person loses a job.

For instance, farms can be run with less workers. This is why many people leave those farm towns for work in other industries. Cars can be painted faster, cheaper and with more consistent results with robots. Can those workers be retrained? Of course. Are business willing to spend the money to retrain them? Not without kicking and screaming.

These companies are making money head over heels. Their is no reason why a living wage cannot be established. It's cheaper than have people supplement their incomes with government safety nets.
You just shit on the entire process that brought you the computer with which you used to shit on the process.

You just explained for yourself how the discarded labor and capital isn't idle. It goes to other industries.

Are you complaining about the transition periods in a process that obviously produces great wealth in the long run?

You and other liberals should appreciate the dynamics of the labor markets mostly unique to America. Here we focus on employment security and not job security. France have people fighting to keep the same job for life, even if it's just a cashier in bakery. They talk about their right to that job. In America we talk about a right to a job. We use to let companies, big and small, go out of business. It was not an uncommon thing to lament and give trillions of dollars to prevent. In that kind of chaos, which is undeniably good, government and workers took it for granted that a job was waiting somewhere else and empirically they were right.

Well, what do we have now? Bad companies are made to prosper, while capital and labor that would have eventually worked it's way to good companies, are left to be wasted with bad managers just because they were politically connected.

Bad managers don't create new jobs for productive methods or destroy jobs for unproductive methods, which helps to crumble the old employment security model of the US.

Well, a natural byproduct of a low growth and inefficient labor market is an increased importance on current job security, since people are rightly losing faith that new jobs are waiting for them elsewhere.

In a dynamic, unsubsidized, and employment security focused labor market, your concerns about retraining and wages wouldn't exist. People with little skills would flow in and out of job opportunities like a philosophy major in the late 90's. And just like the late 90's, business would do what they had to do to get someone to stay, like increase wages or provide paid on the job training.

Counterintuitive to you is leave the labor market alone and you'll get the results you want.
 
Democrats see illegal aliens and their children as future Democratic voters. Republicans are terrified of being called racists and alienating the ethnic lobbies.

U.S. companies see immigrants, legal or illegal, as an endless source of cheap labor to keep wage costs down.

How much of this statement could be responsible for the decline in wages? hmmmmm!
If you're right, then what does that say about the typical American worker if a cheap-waged and poorly educated illegal immigrant can be used as a substitute?
 
You just shit on the entire process that brought you the computer with which you used to shit on the process.

You just explained for yourself how the discarded labor and capital isn't idle. It goes to other industries.

Are you complaining about the transition periods in a process that obviously produces great wealth in the long run?

You and other liberals should appreciate the dynamics of the labor markets mostly unique to America. Here we focus on employment security and not job security. France have people fighting to keep the same job for life, even if it's just a cashier in bakery. They talk about their right to that job. In America we talk about a right to a job. We use to let companies, big and small, go out of business. It was not an uncommon thing to lament and give trillions of dollars to prevent. In that kind of chaos, which is undeniably good, government and workers took it for granted that a job was waiting somewhere else and empirically they were right.

Well, what do we have now? Bad companies are made to prosper, while capital and labor that would have eventually worked it's way to good companies, are left to be wasted with bad managers just because they were politically connected.

Bad managers don't create new jobs for productive methods or destroy jobs for unproductive methods, which helps to crumble the old employment security model of the US.

Well, a natural byproduct of a low growth and inefficient labor market is an increased importance on current job security, since people are rightly losing faith that new jobs are waiting for them elsewhere.

In a dynamic, unsubsidized, and employment security focused labor market, your concerns about retraining and wages wouldn't exist. People with little skills would flow in and out of job opportunities like a philosophy major in the late 90's. And just like the late 90's, business would do what they had to do to get someone to stay, like increase wages or provide paid on the job training.

Counterintuitive to you is leave the labor market alone and you'll get the results you want.


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Silly videos?

So was Perot wrong?
Perot was wrong.

There is always a boogieman. For Perot it was Mexico, before him it was Japan and Germany that was going to take America's place. Since him it's been China, and the fear mongering will continue. It'll move to another country now that China isn't the flavor of the month.

I'll ask you the same question I asked Lamarr when he bad mouths immigrants, what does it say about the typical American worker and that American job if a cheap-waged and poorly educated foreigner can be used as an easy substitute?
 
Perot was wrong.

There is always a boogieman. For Perot it was Mexico, before him it was Japan and Germany that was going to take America's place. Since him it's been China, and the fear mongering will continue. It'll move to another country now that China isn't the flavor of the month.

I'll ask you the same question I asked Lamarr when he bad mouths immigrants, what does it say about the typical American worker and that American job if a cheap-waged and poorly educated foreigner can be used as an easy substitute?

source: Remapping Debate

How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the U.S. While Paying Its Workers Twice as Much
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American autoworkers are constantly told that high-wage work is an unsustainable relic in the face of a hyper-competitive, globalized marketplace. Apostles of neo-liberal economic theory — both in the public and private sectors — have stressed the message that worker adaptation is necessary to survive. Indeed, Steven Rattner, President Obama’s “car czar” during the restructuring of General Motors and Chrysler in early 2009, spoke last week of his regret that the federal government had not required the United Auto workers to take a wage cut at that time to enhance the competitiveness of those companies, comments similar to those he made in a recently published book (after the outcry created by last week’s remarks, Rattner yesterday backed away from them, though reiterating his view that more “shared sacrifice” would have bolstered American competitiveness).

Governments, too, the globalists have contended, should not think that markets can or should be controlled. As Remapping Debate reported earlier this year in an article about the role of large consulting firms in the promotion of the notion that national policy can and must allow global capital a free hand, McKinsey & Co. was already arguing back in 1994 that “a national government has no choice but to move forward to embrace the global capital market unless it wants to harm its own citizens, its economy and its own purposes.”

But the case of German automakers — BMW, Daimler, and Volkswagen — tells a different story. Each company produces vehicles not only in Germany, but also in “transplant” factories in the U.S. The former are characterized by high wages and high union membership; the U.S. plants pay lower wages and are located in so-called “right-to-work” (anti-union) states.

It turns out that “inevitability” has nothing to do with the differing conditions; the salient difference is that, in Germany, the automakers operate within an environment that precludes a race to the bottom; in the U.S., they operate within an environment that encourages such a race.

Sales and profitability

In 2010, over 5.5 million cars were produced in Germany, twice the 2.7 million built in the United States. Average compensation (a figure including wages and employer-paid benefits) for autoworkers in Germany was 48.97 Euros per hour ($67.14 US), while compensation for auto work in the United States averaged $33.77 per hour, or about half as much as in Germany, all according to 2007 data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. For Germany-based auto producers, the U.S. is a low-wage country.

Despite German companies’ relatively high labor costs in their home markets, these firms are quite profitable. An examination of the latest publically available financial statements of BMW, Daimler (Mercedes-Benz cars), and Volkswagen reveals strong sales and profits even in the midst of the currently weak consumer markets in Europe and the U.S. In 2010, for example, BMW, produced 1.48 million cars (63 percent of them in Germany), and earned a before-tax profit from its automotive division of 3.88 billion Euros. The Mercedes-Benz car division of Daimler, likewise produced 1.35 million cars (72.4 percent in Germany) in 2010, and earned a before-tax profit of 4.65 billion Euros.

Race to the bottom in the U.S.

Officials in anti-union states have long sought to lure businesses with the promise of free rein in relation to labor (and to regulation more generally). Sen. Lamar Alexander (R -Tenn.) delivered the weekly Republican Party address this past June, telling his listeners frankly that, when he was Tennessee’s governor in 1979, the state’s right-to-work law was part of his successful pitch in getting Nissan to open an auto plant.

Alexander participated in a ceremony celebrating the opening of a new Volkswagen assembly plant earlier this year near Chattanooga, and again he cited the state’s right-to-work law as among the reasons that Volkswagen chose to come there.

At that Chattanooga plant, according to a company spokesperson, new employees earn $14.50 an hour, with wages gradually rising to $19.50 after 3 years on the job.

A representative of BMW’s Spartanburg plant declined to divulge wages employees earn in its South Carolina (non-unionized) facility, but the Washington Post reported last year that employees at the plant earned $15 per hour.

Workers at American companies have seen their wages eroded. As Remapping Debate has reported, the UAW has made significant concessions on wages, especially through the creation of a permanent “Tier 2” level for all new employees. Whereas incumbent “Tier 1” workers earn about $28 an hour, all new UAW hires at the GM, Ford, and Chrysler earn around $15 per hour.

The companies have argued that this new tier is essential. Marci Evans, a Ford spokesperson, told Remapping Debate, “It is our [Ford’s] preference to build competitively in the markets we sell in.” She added, “reduced cost through introducing an entry level [Tier 2] workforce” is an important part of that strategy.

Gary Casteel, the Region 8 director of the UAW, the region covering the whole southeast of the country, acknowledged the creation of “Tier 2” as “concessionary,” and said, “It’s never attractive to not have equal pay for equal work, but when you’ve got Nissan hiring in Mississippi for $12.50…and Volkswagen for $14…how are we going to maintain a wage level when our competition is doing this?”

The counter-example in Germany

Workers in the German auto industry maintain high wages and good working conditions through two overlapping sets of institutions. First, in the auto industry, virtually all workers are unionized members of IG Metall, the German autoworkers’ union. With such union density, workers have considerable power to keep wages high. German autoworkers have the right to strike, but as Horst Mund, head of the International Department of IG Metall explained to Remapping Debate, they “hardly use it, because there is an elaborate system of conflict resolution that regularly is used to come to some sort of compromise that is acceptable to all parties.”

In addition to high trade union density supporting the power of German autoworkers’ wages, the German constitution itself includes a second mechanism for keeping employees involved in the decisions of the firm for which they work. The Works Constitution Act provides for the creation of Works Councils in each factory. The Works Councils provide a mechanism through which a company’s management must work with employees, whether they are in a union or not, on issues affecting work life, such as shop floor conditions, scheduling shifts, and other issues particular to the factory. This system, according to Mund, institutionalized “direct contact for workers’ representatives with management at various levels, from lower to middle to senior management in daily affairs. So you exercise some kind of dialogue where you don’t always wear your management pin or your union pin.”

Mund points out that the German example goes “against all mainstream wisdom of the neo-liberals. We have strong unions, we have strong social security systems, we have high wages. So, if I believed what the neo-liberals are arguing, we would have to be bankrupt, but apparently this is not the case. Despite high wages…despite our possibility to influence companies, the economy is working well in Germany.”

Are German unions nice and American unions nasty?

Mund says “there are strong contradictions between the way companies that…are used to dealing with unions in Germany, behave differently when they go elsewhere, not only in the U.S., but also in other countries.” What accounts for the differences?

Michael Maibach, president and chief executive officer of the European American Business Council, described this apparent difference by saying that union-management relations in the U.S. were “adversarial" as opposed to the "collaborative” German model. J. Ed Marston, a spokesperson for the Chattanooga Area Chamber of Commerce, likewise told Remapping Debate that “Workers councils in Germany promote cooperation between workers and managers and they deliver value and they continue to thrive…Compared to UAW, where there is an adversarial relationship.”

According to Mund, however, “The accusation that American unions are more radical and destructive…definitely has to do with the hostile environment in which the unions have to act. How can they be constructive and friendly if their asses are kicked all the time?” Mund sees the lauding of “cooperation” in the German context as profoundly misleading, saying “they would not talk to us either if they had the choice.”

Mund emphasized the importance of the trade union and works councils in maintaining workers’ participation and high levels of remuneration, and said that the focus was not to maintain the good will of individual firms. He said, “Companies in Germany, while they are bound by law to work with us in works councils, and we are present on supervisory boards, they just have to do this. For most of the companies, not for all, it is not something they would do if they were not forced to do that. The companies are there to make profit, and in the eyes of many managers we are not conducive to making as much profit as possible, but rather a hindrance.”

“Because they can get away with it”

Marko Maunula, a historian and author of the book, Guten Tag, Y’All: Globalization and the South Carolina Piedmont, 1950-2000, told Remapping Debate that foreign-based manufacturers like BMW “are very cognizant of the political climate of communities,” and they behave differently depending on the legal and social context within which they find themselves. Globalization over the last 20 or 30 years, Maunula suggests, has resulted in a situation where “there is no real industrial nationality anymore.” Though “BMW is a German company and it has a very German hierarchy and management system in Germany…when they are operating in Spartanburg they have become very, very easily adaptable to Spartanburg business culture.”

Coming from a very different perspective, Maibach told a very similar story: unlike in Germany, where unionization and high wages are normalized by law and custom, “the U.S. has a different tradition” and “companies have a choice to make” about where to locate their facilities, often deciding on places where the risk of unionization is lower.

Mund relates the initial perplexity of his American counterparts in response to the anti-union stance taken by German automakers in the U.S.: “In the past we frequently had the impression that our American colleagues thought we would just have to talk to management here in Germany in the sense that ‘look, behave decently, you know us, we’re the good guys, our American colleagues from the UAW they are equally good, so behave mutually and everything will be fine.’”

“But,” Mund said with understatement, “It is not working like this.”

When asked why German firms operate so differently with respect to labor in different countries, Claude Barfield, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute where he studies international trade and globalization, told Remapping Debate that they do so, in part, “because they can get away with it so far.”

Though a Volkswagen-Chattanooga spokesperson told Remapping Debate that “it is up to our production team members to decide” whether to join a union, Barfield points out that all of the German-based auto manufacturers in the U.S. located in right-to-work states are “not unhappy with the situation they have now,” citing the fact that they “have more authority, they have more power” than they would in a unionized context.

Barfield said that factors other than wages brought the German carmakers to right-to-work states. A central reason for their interest in those states, he says, “has to do with not wanting to…get involved with work rules and seniority.” They have, he continued, “a much greater flexibility just in assigning work, and to be able to have plants change as conditions change. So, they’re not unhappy with that. They would not say they are happier with this than the system they deal with in Germany, but they probably are.”

Making choices

Returning to the experience of Germany’s domestic auto industry, Mund says that, while “it is not a law of nature that you have to be non-unionized to be successful,” companies are clearly choosing not to be union where they don’t have to.

Could conditions in the U.S. be changed to produce a structure that, like Germany, protects workers against declining wages and conditions?

Barfield noted that “you’d have to change major state law as well as federal law.” His prognosis is not that it is impossible as a legal matter, but that, as a practical matter, “it will never look like Germany.”

“In the U.S., there’s no prospect that we will change our laws,” he continued. “When the Democrats were in [full control of Congress] under Obama, they promised to change” — making it easier for unions to organize through a card check system — but “that didn’t happen.”

More broadly, Barfield said, “It’s a different tradition of business, government, and labor relations. Three pieces of things all together in Germany and the U.S. never had that. So I don’t think it’s just that the laws per se, it’s the attitude of corporate leaders and union leaders and governments. Not because of one specific piece of legislation.”

If he is right — and no one we spoke with disputed Barfield’s short-term political assessment —— conditions for labor in the U.S. auto industry will continue on their current path, a path described by the UAW’s Casteel as “spiraling downwards.”

On the other hand, despite Barfield’s reference to tradition, the “tradition” in the U.S. through the 1970s was having a highly unionized auto making industry, one that paid good wages. Indeed, the tradition was such that the initial forays of German automakers into the U.S. saw them accept unionization in their transplanted factories (see box below).

Casteel and Mund hope for a return to that tradition, with Casteel saying, “Corporations aren’t going to give back to the workers unless they are made to.” The UAW has said that it is renewing its efforts to organize the southern transplants, but has not released specifics on its strategy or timetable.

A different beginning

Despite the current differences in auto industry labor practices in Germany and U.S., German auto firms’ foray into manufacturing in the U.S. initially conformed to the high-wage, unionized mode of German industry. As part of a wave of foreign direct investment in the U.S. by European-based firms, in 1978, Volkswagen opened the Westmoreland Assembly Plant, 35 miles outside of Pittsburgh. At the time, most autoworkers in the United States were members of the United Auto Workers, and Westmoreland became no exception, and the plant rapidly unionized.

Volkswagen’s quick acceptance of labor organizing at its first American plant was apparently not out of the ordinary for newly arrived foreign-based firms. In 1981, two economists asked in the U.S. Labor Department’s Monthly Labor Review, “Do foreign owned U.S. firms practice unconventional labor relations?” Noting that “it is very possible that unionization may pose no great problem for foreign-owned firms, especially those with European parent companies, because they have been dealing with unions successfully for many years,” the authors’ survey of unions and firms in the U.S. concluded that “foreign owned companies do not differ from domestically owned companies in their approach to most labor relations issues.”
 
If you're right, then what does that say about the typical American worker if a cheap-waged and poorly educated illegal immigrant can be used as a substitute?

missed your post, had a great weekend :)

My statement is not necessarily trying to "point the finger" at another human trying to create opportunities for him/herself. Don't have a problem rewarding hard work.

What I am highlighting is the 'selective' enforcement of immigration laws by our elected officials, who swore an oath to defend the Constitution. Surprisingly, people come to the country for jobs & benefits. We can surely, create another alphabet agency to 'regulate' this activity, instead of rewarding / acquiescing illegal activity.

What's wrong with being on the side of the American worker???
 
missed your post, had a great weekend :)

My statement is not necessarily trying to "point the finger" at another human trying to create opportunities for him/herself. Don't have a problem rewarding hard work.

What I am highlighting is the 'selective' enforcement of immigration laws by our elected officials, who swore an oath to defend the Constitution. Surprisingly, people come to the country for jobs & benefits. We can surely, create another alphabet agency to 'regulate' this activity, instead of rewarding / acquiescing illegal activity.

What's wrong with being on the side of the American worker???


What's wrong with condemning those that hiring illegal aliens?
 
nothing at all bruh!

But nowadays, people are placing profits before loyalty to their community OR businesses have to resort to this tactic in order to compete.


So breaking the law is justified. Personal responsibility Mr.Libertarian?
 
Like this is some big discovery. It's self evident that most of today's capitalists have no ethics.

no, you dimwit!

This wouldn't be a problem if the govt would enforce the laws already on the books.

Hate to break this to you but your govt has been hijacked by multinational corporations.

The govt is no longer of, by, & for the people
 
Whites created this system to give themselves an advantage over the world. All this talk about profits, productivity, and prosperity is meaningless if it doesn't benefit whites.

Whites don't want Nigerians, Mexicans, Chinese, nor anyone else succeeding in a system that was built for whites.

This whole system has been designed to elevate whites. Trying to understand it in any other way just leads to logical fallacies, incosistencies, and frustration.

Why make a level-playing field if it gives you no advantage? Why spend the effort?

The problem today is that the United States has squandered so much of its natural wealth, that there is not enough to go around for all the whites that want to live the good life.
 
no, you dimwit!

This wouldn't be a problem if the govt would enforce the laws already on the books.

Hate to break this to you but your govt has been hijacked by multinational corporations.

The govt is no longer of, by, & for the people

So it's confirmed. capitalism cannot operate fairly without regulations.
 
So it's confirmed. capitalism cannot operate fairly without regulations.

the only thing that is confirmed is the fact that centrally-planned economies do not work!

Once again, we don't have capitalism as long as the Fed Res controls the issuance of currency & credit
 
the only thing that is confirmed is the fact that centrally-planned economies do not work!

Once again, we don't have capitalism as long as the Fed Res controls the issuance of currency & credit


So name a country that has successful capitalism. Be specific.
 
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