Black Criminality is a Tool of Oppression

[Q004]

This was inspired by the last thread about people feeling elevated by not merely snitching, but making lies about their own people.

Black criminality is the myth of America and Africa. You are being made to believe that the crime that goes on in the Black community is of our own doing. However, it is not.

We were taught by the powers that be to be criminals and we are also taught to treat the accused as being criminals (even when the accusation is false). It is a tool. See, you can't get the masses to hold innocent people down. However, by imprisoning your fathers and your brother and making you feel that your own people are crooked, it empowers the discrimination of a race.

Blacks represent a disproportionate amount of violent and criminal behavior because it is a means of subjugation. No one feels sorry for a criminal.

"First ship 'em dope & let 'em deal the brothers
Give 'em guns step back watch 'em kill each other"

It's a brilliant plan. Don't buy into it.

 

[Damn Right]

man, gtfoh with that bullsheit

take responsibility for the fuked up sheit u do and quit blaming somebody else. if u rob a bank or steal a car, it ain't because of 'oppression'

 

[sammyjax]

nothin but the truth. smart dumb niggas can't get this through their greasy head though.

every single aspect of the black american experience is part of a fuckin agenda set hundreds of fuckin years ago and shot full of steroids when they had to set us free and in short it's all geared towards making the black man a non factor, and make off with our women.

this is SO real, and y'all niggas out here sacrificing cats for much less than honorable reasons.

shame.

 

[Q004]

man, gtfoh with that bullsheit

take responsibility for the fuked up sheit u do and quit blaming somebody else. if u rob a bank or steal a car, it ain't because of 'oppression'

Man, you are totally bypassing the message. They created black criminality. Blacks were not by and large criminals, and they turn us into criminals to subjugate our race. You are lacking a historical perspective.

 

[sammyjax]

man, gtfoh with that bullsheit

take responsibility for the fuked up sheit u do and quit blaming somebody else. if u rob a bank or steal a car, it ain't because of 'oppression'

true on one level, not so true on a deeper one.

if the systemic problems didn't exist, the secondary ones would be orders of magnitude less because the psychology would not be in place to drive that kind of behavior.

 

[Q004]

nothin but the truth. smart dumb niggas can't get this through their greasy head though.

every single aspect of the black american experience is part of a fuckin agenda set hundreds of fuckin years ago and shot full of steroids when they had to set us free and in short it's all geared towards making the black man a non factor, and make off with our women.

this is SO real, and y'all niggas out here sacrificing cats for much less than honorable reasons.

shame.

Real talk. When blacks were law abiding citizens, they were losing ground, so there was a real active agenda to turn blacks into to criminals to hold them down. I hate ignorance like the next man, but if you don't see the grand conspiracy, you are ignorant of history.

 

[sammyjax]

Real talk. When blacks were law abiding citizens, they were losing ground, so there was a real active agenda to turn blacks into to criminals to hold them down. I hate ignorance like the next man, but if you don't see the grand conspiracy, you are ignorant of history.

well said.

 

[Q004]

true on one level, not so true on a deeper one.

if the systemic problems didn't exist, the secondary ones would be orders of magnitude less because the psychology would not be in place to drive that kind of behavior.

When we were freed from slavery, the secondary way to create black slaves was to lock them up and imprison them...then make them work plantations. These people were even better than slaves, because no one cared about civil rights for prisoners. Black criminality became big business.

 

[sammyjax]

When we were freed from slavery, the secondary way to create black slaves was to lock them up and imprison them...then make them work plantations. These people were even better than slaves, because no one cared about civil rights for prisoners. Black criminality became big business.

yep. add to that the control and export of the negative image of us through various media...and you simultaneously get the masses to excuse mistreatment of us on a grand scale, AND the brainwashing effect on us that causes the self hate and criminal training.

facilitate w/easy access to drugs, guns, liquor...denial of educational resources...sprinkle liberally w/overpolicing and lopsided sentencing and voila...prison fulla niggas casserole.

 

[RoadRage]

Its a brilliant plan, but remember, cancer were once regular cells that got infected and its only purpose is growing out of control and killing the host.

 

[ugk]

/kanye shrug

In the end you choose whether or not you want to be caught up in some mass conspiracy to keep black folks down.

 

[Q004]

Its a brilliant plan, but remember, cancer were once regular cells that got infected and its only purpose is growing out of control and killing the host.

Yep, it is so brilliant in it execution that it is not even recognized by the host. The host treats it like it's own cells and lacks the proper immunoresponse.

The enemy turns the body against itself, and smiles

 

[Q004]

/kanye shrug

In the end you choose whether or not you want to be caught up in some mass conspiracy to keep black folks down.

It's more complex than that. Your view of the world is intertwined with what you are taught. Not making excuses, but I hate the self hatred I see in people not knowing the roots of the struggle their people face and what influenced it.

 

[sammyjax]

Yep, it is so brilliant in it execution that it is not even recognized by the host. The host treats it like it's own cells and lacks the proper immunoresponse.

The enemy turns the body against itself, and smiles

 

[charlie dark]

nothin but the truth. smart dumb niggas can't get this through their greasy head though.

every single aspect of the black american experience is part of a fuckin agenda set hundreds of fuckin years ago and shot full of steroids when they had to set us free and in short it's all geared towards making the black man a non factor, and make off with our women.

this is SO real, and y'all niggas out here sacrificing cats for much less than honorable reasons.

shame.

Let's say for arguments sake you're correct.
Now what you gonna do???

 

[sammyjax]

It's more complex than that. Your view of the world is intertwined with what you are taught. Not making excuses, but I hate the self hatred I see in people not knowing the roots of the struggle their people face and what influenced it.

you can only claim ignorance til somebody tells you though. after that, you on that bullshit just like you trained to be, and willingly.

that's why i have a hard time not disliking cats who stick to that mode of thought after bein shown the matrix. but if i do that actively, i'm part of the problem too.

rock/me/hard place

 

[sammyjax]

Let's say for arguments sake you're correct.
Now what you gonna do???

just gotta keep shinin the light on muhfuckas man. through whatever means available to me. it's the only thing anyone can do.

arguments sake

 

[Q004]

The thing is, this is not an excuse perspective I'm shooting. I do well for myself. I don't work for anybody, I'm not a criminal and I hold it down. So it's not that.

However, to look at our situation as being simply our own fault and not a result of generations of subjugation is stupid. You had a grand conspiracy working against you and your forefathers, but you want to take all the blame?

I guess they did a good job .

All I'm saying, is we need to stop looking down on ourselves and then elevate. As long as we believe that we are to blame for all of this and it wasn't a planned move against us, we are basically looking down on ourselves and buying into the lie.

 

[Q004]

you can only claim ignorance til somebody tells you though. after that, you on that bullshit just like you trained to be, and willingly.

that's why i have a hard time not disliking cats who stick to that mode of thought after bein shown the matrix. but if i do that actively, i'm part of the problem too.

rock/me/hard place

Knowing is part, the actual effect is another. We know it's a lie, but we have the ramifications of the lie as well. The broken households, the broken communities. A divide and conquer went on. I make no excuse for not holding down my own household, but I a have empathy for our situation.

 

[ugk]

This should be broken down in a youtube video, maybe it'll go viral on WSHH

 

[charlie dark]

just gotta keep shinin the light on muhfuckas man. through whatever means available to me. it's the only thing anyone can do.

arguments sake

That's cliche talk.

What does that mean in actaulity?
Does it mean getting brothas to stop doing dumb shit, start taking education seriously and endevour to be more entrepreneurial, start playing a more active role in their children's lives?

 

[H.A.N]

Man, you are totally bypassing the message. They created black criminality. Blacks were not by and large criminals, and they turn us into criminals to subjugate our race. You are lacking a historical perspective.

BULL FUCKING SHIT. NO one made you rob a bank, steal or slang dope.

 

[sammyjax]

That's cliche talk.

What does that mean in actaulity?
Does it mean getting brothas to stop doing dumb shit, start taking education seriously and endevour to be more entrepreneurial, start playing a more active role in their children's lives?

no it's not.

WHATEVER MEANS IS AVAILABLE TO YOU

yes.

 

[Q004]

BULL FUCKING SHIT. NO one made you rob a bank, steal or slang dope.

You are being slow right now fam. Like I said, you are buying into the the fuck shit.

I'm going to tell you how to create a criminal. First, lock up their fathers up on false charges. After you do that, deny the children of those fathers of a decent education. Then, promote the image of being a criminal to them as being sexy.

That shit is like cake mix.

 

[ugk]

You are being slow right now fam. Like I said, you are buying into the the fuck shit.

I'm going to tell you how to create a criminal. First, lock up their fathers up on false charges. After you do that, deny the children of those fathers of a decent education. Then, promote the image of being a criminal to them as being sexy.

That shit is like cake mix.

Man don't fuck with that troll. He's only here to derail the thread.. This is actually a good thread, don't let him fuck it up

 

[sammyjax]

You are being slow right now fam. Like I said, you are buying into the the fuck shit.

I'm going to tell you how to create a criminal. First, lock up their fathers up on false charges. After you do that, deny the children of those fathers of a decent education. Then, promote the image of being a criminal to them as being sexy.

That shit is like cake mix.

promote the image, then give them stupid access to the tools, then snatch them up 10:1 the ratio u do everyone else.

explainin shit to acur is instafail though.

 

[Q004]

I will avoid the derail, I'm just saying to my brothers that we need a better self identity. We need to to know to not look down on our brothers. I'm a smart dude and I've been guilty of it.
However, it's not about that. If we want to lift our brothers up, we got to know that all of us wasn't lucky enough to have parent's that ain't get caught up in the struggle or to have homies who saw above it....and this self hatred needs to stop.

 

[Q004]

See, the prison system used to be very small. Normally, you don't want to lock up people who are no real threat to society for long periods of time, it is not productive and it is unnecessary. However, now we have quotas. So, the rate will never drop dramatically, because you are putting people out of work .

We now have a nation that has an industry off of building criminals.

 

[rcr10101]

I partially understand your primary basis for making this thread in the first place. I think to express your disdain for Spiderman's decision to snitch on people engaded in illegal activity. Was it wrong of him to say that they were carrying weapons and holding drugs? Possibly, because that notion gives the officers arriving on the scene a reason to be a little more on edge which could have gotten those people on the street "justifiably"(for lack of a better word) killed. But the bottom line in all of this is we all make a concious decision to work our way into a better situation or to be content with what is viewed as the only "hustle" in town. I do agree that people that don't see anything but the "gangsta" way of life would be more prone to following that path, however, it is still understood by society as a whole that there are some things that are simply illegal. If you want to be a shining light and help OUR situation, I beleive we all need to be the good example out in the community, doing volunteer work and helping out where you can. If you know there is a child who does not have a father there is nothing stopping you from bonding with that child and showing him or her there is a better life available. There is nothing stopping you from reaching out to tutor, big brother/sister, or reading programs.

Just sitting back complaining about a problem will not fix it. What do you do to help? I can tell you that the big brother programs are in my opinion the best way to get people out of the circle of death. They take alot of commitment but it is alot of fun.

 

[Damn Right]

Man, you are totally bypassing the message. They created black criminality. Blacks were not by and large criminals, and they turn us into criminals to subjugate our race. You are lacking a historical perspective.

if true then how would u explain the harsh laws imposed on villagers that committed crimes in ancient africa before america even existed? the stealing of live stock was dealt with harshly, as was the stealing of edible goods, etc.

we're not even gonna touch on the conflicts between waring tribes either. crime isn't relegated to specific races. as the oldest race of people on the planet, it's up 2 u to know about your history as much as possible.

we are the people that created some of man's greatest achievements. but at the same time we have 2 hold ourselves accountable for acts of criminality.

 

[RoadRage]

About time it gets to the part where they are actually committing crimes, destroying themselves and the neighborhood, most of the time they have become cancerous and beyond saving...
The key is preventative care and catching it before its too late.
If you see a black child, who actually believes he is a scrub or less of an individual, only because he has on $50 sneaker instead of the $300 joints he desires, or the black girl who secretly wishes to look more like her white blonde with blue eyes, Barbie dolls, then you should know right there and then the child has become infected with the disease that is destroying our black communities like infectious cancer.. And if that child mind isn't guided towards the right direction, there is a chance that he or she may become a cancer to our community.

 

[rcr10101]

About time it gets to the part where they are actually committing crimes, destroying themselves and the neighborhood, most of the time they have become cancerous and beyond saving...
The key is preventative care and catching it before its too late.
If you see a black child, who actually believes he is a scrub or less of an individual, only because he has on $50 sneaker instead of the $300 joints he desires, or the black girl who secretly wishes to look more like her white blonde with blue eyes, Barbie dolls, then you should know right there and then the child has become infected with the disease that is destroying our black communities like infectious cancer.. And if that child mind isn't guided towards the right direction, there is a chance that he or she may become a cancer to our community.

This is the problem. If you see it, do something about it. That is the problem with Black society. We can allow others to define us, or we can take an active role in our defining ourselves and choose what that definition should be.

 

[RoadRage]

This is the problem. If you see it, do something about it. That is the problem with Black society. We can allow others to define us, or we can take an active role in our defining ourselves and choose what that definition should be.

Today the media (TV, music and movies) have such an active role in sculpting the minds of our youth.. Whats dangerous about that, is that if you were to do half of the crap the people on TV, movies, and records do and say, your ass would be dead, locked up or have your life destroyed for good, and yet the media makes it seem like these things nothing but harmless fun.

 

[Cruise]

That other thread with the cat lying and saying black people were doing things that were not true, was a fresh low for the house slave (or the stormfront member). That's the kind of bullshit that will backfire in your face.

It's bad enough you have armed white males invading our commuinities and committing crimes against the public under the guise of "police" action.

It's far worse when you have the public helping the "police" commit violence against the public by inventing alleged "crimes" and using the "police" as a weapon against the public.

The "police" are nothing more than an armed, brute, gang of violent white males with a pass to commit all acts of brutality and violence, against the public, up to and including murder.

That you have black people running to armed white males to "police" their non-white communities shows how lost we really are. There is no way for a community to thrive when armed white males are operating in non-white neighborhoods, no matter how many times you call them.

 

[Blu Diablo]

See, the prison system used to be very small. Normally, you don't want to lock up people who are no real threat to society for long periods of time, it is not productive and it is unnecessary. However, now we have quotas. So, the rate will never drop dramatically, because you are putting people out of work .

We now have a nation that has an industry off of building criminals.

This is the only thing you've said in this thread that I have to disagree with. Yes, the prison industry was smaller but it's quota role has disproportionately applied to us (black males) since the end of slavery.

We have a nation that was built off of free labor and they never had any intentions of letting that free labor go.

Again,

Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

THIS is what black criminality was borne out of.