So? Fuck personal records. Superbowl! That's what it is about, how many coaches or former players do you see without a ring on the morning shows. Just a few. It is all about championships.
Jim Brown says Vick should take notes from Tebow
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So? Fuck personal records. Superbowl! That's what it is about, how many coaches or former players do you see without a ring on the morning shows. Just a few. It is all about championships.
Oh yeah vick 667 rushing yards in 11 games last year had he played all 16 he would have had a 1000 and maybe 4000 passing. This year he has 400+ yards in 8 games. SO yeah him using his legs more to be like Tebow is bullshit especially when Tebwos ARE DESIGNED RUNS.
I am going to open up two windows and compare the posts of those who didn't understand what Jim Brown said and lost respect to those who told that other cat he should move home because he can't pay his bills.
And at 75 I bet most of your mofokrs still wouldn't try and roll up on Jim.
And at 75 I bet most of your mofokrs still wouldn't try and roll up on Jim.
Understood, but you should understand that's it's JIM BROWN'S POV. He was a beast on the field until he got tired...Then he walked away and never looked back.
From his vantage point, he's probably advising Vick to beast for as long as he can, then walk away healthy and fuck starlets for the rest of his life
Ummm
Tom Jackson,
Merril Hoge,
Tim Hasselbeck,
Marcelus Wiley,
Herman Edwards
Jamie Dukes
Waddle.
Marrucci
when vick gets an offense designed for him with the running and passes then he'll do it, until then he has to do what he has to do. its not the same situation what shold have been said was andy reid should take notes from john fox.
vick does everything better than tebow, and if put in that offense would put up mega numbers
so like i said if you give him more designed runs, then he would run more, he's running the offense that's been given to him. not that he's afraid to run but the plan isnt to run its to pass and if it breaks down scramble
there's a big difference
vick does everything better than tebow, and if put in that offense would put up mega numbers
so like i said if you give him more designed runs, then he would run more, he's running the offense that's been given to him. not that he's afraid to run but the plan isnt to run its to pass and if it breaks down scramble
there's a big difference
Thank you, you seem one of the few that actually READ the article.
Ok bro, but its a topic up for discussion so that ALL I was doing.
Vick has been getting beat up all year. Didn't he have some broken ribs at some point this season? Of course, Vick isn't running as much. What do you expect?
I'm sure Vick will be running again, when he is healthy.
I'm sure Vick will be running again, when he is healthy.
"I appreciate the talent of all the talented people, and everybody is different. … If you have 10 guys that have done something wonderful, why pick out one and say his was much greater than the others and try to diminish what the others have done? I don't think that's good. It's not healthy.
"I don't teach kids to be No. 1. Organizations and people that tell you you have to be No. 1; that's not it. You don't have to be No. 1. What I teach is to be as good as you can be. Use what you have and be as good as you can be. That's all you can do anyway (laughs)."
On elaborate TD celebrations and dances, such as the one the Bills' Stevie Johnson did, when he pretended to shoot himself in the leg (a la Plaxico Burress):
"It's an example of ignorance. Pure ignorance. There's no upside to it. It's self-serving ignorance. The bottom line is, any intelligent person realizes that until the game is over there's nothing to celebrate. ... And it means that you are not concentrating on winning, and then you can lose the game. Or, you can drop the ball, as [Johnson] did [later]. Now where's the celebration? So all of a sudden you can't hold the ball and now what do you want your teammates to do? Should they celebrate you dropping the ball? So like I said, there's no upside. It's ignorance, and I don't even know how players can stoop to being so ignorant that they can hurt their team after something that's been successful. That is as bad as it gets. To me there's no other side of the story. There's no two sides of this story. It's a terrible, terrible lack of intelligence."
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Ahhhhhhh thank you, finally some who see's it as it should be seen. One is running a "high school" offense while the other is running a pass first offense with pass 1 option pass 2nd option pass 3rd option pass coach.
Ummm
Tom Jackson,
Merril Hoge,
Tim Hasselbeck,
Marcelus Wiley,
Herman Edwards
Jamie Dukes
Waddle.
Marrucci
Boomer
Marino
Sterling
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The sad part is that everything in the article up to the words "Tim Tebow" is some powerful shit that every young cat in here NEEDS to read. More than once
Jim Brown is 75 years old, won a title, WALKED AWAY from football is not in a wheelchair has never bowed down to a cracker and is NOT BROKE after having a record breaking career
Charlie would say he is definitely winning
Tebow wins because Denver has a Damn Good DEFENSE
exactly there are no option read plays and few bootlegs and qb draws
andy needs to adjust to his qb's skillset, he never has fox did adjust to it which is why tebow is running those things
if vick didn't go through his progressions and just took off 80% of the time then he'd be on the bench
if he completed 2 passes through 3 quarters, he'd be on the bench there wouldn't be opportunity for vick time.
if you give vick option reads and give vick designed runs he'd run them cause that's what he's been called to do
its not him not using his legs more its him running the offense his head coach has felt was best for the team.
if you want him to run more
put it in the offense
You're wrong. Tebow has zero experience at winning in the NFL. Fox has done this before with another qb with limited potential but lots of heart. He designs the team around his qb as long as he has front office support, he's successful.
The Eagles believe in Michael Vick but it's hard to follow a guy who's been out about a third of the season. They seemed to follow well last season and started this one off 4-1.
Even in Atlanta, in the beginning, it was a young Vick that led the Falcons to the first ever victory for a visiting team at Lambeau in the playoffs.
This isn't about, for me, hating Tim Tebow but let's not act like he's the savior of that team alone
That's it. Why would Reid design a lot of running plays for Vick when he knows Vick can throw?
We did. Brown oversimplified what's happening in Denver and ended up making an incorrect assumption.
Tebow vs Vick is a zillion miles beyond the point Brown was making. Peace
then he should have made the correct comparison which isn't tebow vs vick
its fox vs reid
they're the ones in charge of calling the offenses and the qb's are in charge of running those offenses
andy isn't adjusting to anything or anyone even if vick would do well in them
fox did
tebow runs more by design and has more opportunities to
vick doesn't by design as well
so like i said it isn't up to either of them what they run
its up to the coaches and the coaches need to adjust and adapt
Ummm
Tom Jackson,
Merril Hoge,
Tim Hasselbeck,
Marcelus Wiley,
Herman Edwards
Jamie Dukes
Waddle.
Marrucci
I assume you are laughing cause I am correct.
You shouldn't have had to break that down. He made his point very clear.
Some of the shit I read on this board is sad, out of that article all they got was Vick should be like Tebow
Niggas see Tebow and go retarded.
That's what makes Brown wrong. If John Fox wanted him to be a pocket passer, he would be and John Fox would be fired by the Broncos after one season. Vick is doing what his coach wants him to do and by becoming a better throwing qb, he adds another reliable weapon to his arsenal.
Fam, you're wrong.
you failed on that one playboy....accept it....make another argument....
Now challenge yourself with the superbowl winners, lol. Damn BGOL, you stay cracking me up.
yea. The title was misleading and you know niggas dont read. He basically is saying that Tim Tebow plays like Tim Tebow. Vick has been trying to become Tom Brady, and thats not his strength. He makes plays with his arm and his legs, he should stick to what works
He's DEFINITELY NOT taking into account the fact that Tebow has about 30 lbs on Vick as well!
Tebow is built like a linebacker, his body can take some punishment, Vick however is built like a safety, and we see week in and week out how many DBs go down, let alone how many times Vick himself has!
If you've watched any Eagles game this season you'll see that's exactly what Michael Vick does.
As others have mentioned, Brown also doesn't make a fact to point out that the 2 QB's run 2 totally different offensive philosophies. Vick's run's the pass first West Coast Offense. The other guy runs the Abe Lincoln Middle School run only offense. You can't compare them.
What Jim Brown failed to mention is that Fox adapted his team to Tebow. If Tebow were being coached by Pat Shurmur in Cleveland, nobody would even be talking about him because Shurmur would have forced him to sit under center and pass. It would be a train wreck.
Most NFL coaches are stubborn and in most cases Tebow wouldn't get to play like Tebow. It isn't so much that Vick has to take notice, as do coaches around the league. Adapt to what you have. Stop being so fucking stubborn.
And I don't like Tebow either, but the hate on him is ridiculous.
Most NFL coaches are stubborn and in most cases Tebow wouldn't get to play like Tebow. It isn't so much that Vick has to take notice, as do coaches around the league. Adapt to what you have. Stop being so fucking stubborn.
And I don't like Tebow either, but the hate on him is ridiculous.
What Jim Brown failed to mention is that Fox adapted his team to Tebow. If Tebow were being coached by Pat Shurmur in Cleveland, nobody would even be talking about him because Shurmur would have forced him to sit under center and pass. It would be a train wreck.
Most NFL coaches are stubborn and in most cases Tebow wouldn't get to play like Tebow. It isn't so much that Vick has to take notice, as do coaches around the league. Adapt to what you have. Stop being so fucking stubborn.
And I don't like Tebow either, but the hate on him is ridiculous.
He is very polarizing. Just like the hate is overboard, so is the love. Whenever the sports media gets behind someone to this degree, there's going to be a backlash.
Bruh, you were wrong. Let it go.
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