Doesnt he fight at 122 or 126?
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Doesnt he fight at 122 or 126?
thats basically what I said and you called it stupid
I'm referring to the part about Floyd needing to have this big trilogy with Pac where he loses one etc.which i quoted you on.
Except for Marquez PAc fought all 3 of those guys AFTER Mayweather and Manny is doing the same shit with Marquez - were they compelling then, because I don't see you mentioning those fights.
he won't they weren't washed up when Pac got to them....
behold the greatness of Pac....
boy I can't wait to see these cats faces when may tax that ass...
he won't they weren't washed up when Pac got to them....
behold the greatness of Pac....
boy I can't wait to see these cats faces when may tax that ass...
he won't they weren't washed up when Pac got to them....
behold the greatness of Pac....
boy I can't wait to see these cats faces when may tax that ass...
he won't they weren't washed up when Pac got to them....
behold the greatness of Pac....
boy I can't wait to see these cats faces when may tax that ass...
The oscar fight was until the weigh in. Oscar lost that fight on the scale and his dignity in the ring. The hatton fight was at 140 where hatton was unbeaten at. And manny fought marquez twice before pbf. And as i said. I don't care for the fight because of the moving up in weight shit for jmm. But i am the only person that isnt interested in seeing manny murder jmm.
Oh yeah. It would have been nice for you to answer my response to you with statements.
yea he does, i was just sayin if they were in the same weight class
Like you answer mine Buk? C'mon. I just comented on Pac fighting Mosley, Hatton, and Marquez at 147 - when he could have fought him a 3rd time years ago at 130-135. Pac's doing the same thing in making him move up but he's not getting any of the flak Floyd got for it.
Anyway I'm done with this convo. Floyd could go up to 160 and unify the belts and he'd still get criticized. Manny could get caught on the front page of USA Today, injecting steroids into his balls and the media would give him a pass. But I am 99.9% sure of one thing - Floyd would whup his ass badly if they ever fought - you will never see that fight. They've worked too hard at spinning Pac into the G.O.A.T and they don't want Floyd and his boxing skill to shatter that illusion in 36 minutes.
I did anwser you. You asked about the bad fights for PBF. I explained why they were bad. Then you asked about them as they related to Manny. I did that. Please. Manny fought JMM twice and JMM never walked away with a freaking win. Cry me a river cause he fought him twice and moved on. Also what the hell? What is all the make believe stuff about 160 and steroids? I answered you, but you can't comment back on my rebuttals but make up scenarios about the two fighters. You are better than that.
You are missing the biggest hole in his argument. He is the one always saying fighters should move up if they are good and they should fight the toughest guys, right
JMM was number two P4P in the world, Pac wouldn't give him a third fight and Pac kept moving up in weight. So why is it a bad fight for JMM to make a fight with the toughest fighter to beat in the sport? Was JMM not to prove himself in the same way that Floyd is generally asked to prove himself? If Floyd is trying to fight the best out... why shouldn't he fight the toughest opponent for Pac in recent years to make a point?
Also complaining about Hatton is stupid. Hatton was calling Floyd out for over a year and he was the only dude calling Floyd out at the time from what I remember. Hatton was the best at his weight and he went up one class similar to what many people like buk want Floyd to do for a Martinez fight. How is it that doing something like that makes for an uneven fight when Hatton has fought at 140 his whole career and Floyd is expected to jump up another weight class after jumping several already?
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Not really. I think what we hear most is how Floyd hasn't taken care of business at 147. Floyd left too much on the table at 147 to be even thinking about 154.
You are missing the biggest hole in his argument. He is the one always saying fighters should move up if they are good and they should fight the toughest guys, right
JMM was number two P4P in the world, Pac wouldn't give him a third fight and Pac kept moving up in weight. So why is it a bad fight for JMM to make to fight the toughest fighter to beat in the sport? Was JMM not to prove himself in the same way that Floyd is generally asked to prove himself? If Floyd is trying to fight the best out... why shouldn't he fight the toughest opponent for Pac in recent years to make a point?
Also complaining about Hatton is stupid. Hatton was calling Floyd out for over a year and he was the only dude calling Floyd out at the time from what I remember. Hatton was the best at his weight and he went up one class similar to what many people like buk want Floyd to do for a Martinez fight. How is it that doing something like that makes for an uneven fight when Hatton has fought at 140 his whole career and Floyd is expected to jump up another weight class after jump several already?
Hey, stalker. I wasn't talking to you.
You are missing the biggest hole in his argument. He is the one always saying fighters should move up if they are good and they should fight the toughest guys, right
JMM was number two P4P in the world, Pac wouldn't give him a third fight and Pac kept moving up in weight. So why is it a bad fight for JMM to make to fight the toughest fighter to beat in the sport? Was JMM not to prove himself in the same way that Floyd is generally asked to prove himself? If Floyd is trying to fight the best out... why shouldn't he fight the toughest opponent for Pac in recent years to make a point?
Also complaining about Hatton is stupid. Hatton was calling Floyd out for over a year and he was the only dude calling Floyd out at the time from what I remember. Hatton was the best at his weight and he went up one class similar to what many people like buk want Floyd to do for a Martinez fight. How is it that doing something like that makes for an uneven fight when Hatton has fought at 140 his whole career and Floyd is expected to jump up another weight class after jump several already?
To be satisfied as a fan, all I would need is for Mayweather to fight more consistently and at least dominate his own division.
Every fan wants to see more fights. No argument with that.
And I wasn't talking to you either, but hey... I'm sorry if you think that I should be excluded from boxing threads. Ignore my valid points and continue your business....
Oh shit... how the fuck did the three of us co-sign something?
Agreed. This dude is fighting twice every 3 years
He should be a lot more active at this point. I cant argue against that at all.
agreeing with a WAW on the level of Blunt is not cool at all. It must have been about a movie or something...
Actually it was...and even then I had to cringe man....
peterpiper1978 said:
How many future HOF's has PBF fought IN THEIR PRIME, as compared to Pacqiauo?
Mayweather does not need Pacquiao financially; the opposite is more true.
Agreed. This dude is fighting twice every 3 years
He should be a lot more active at this point. I cant argue against that at all.
Why? He has made more $120 million in the last 3 fights..His formula is working for him...As he has said, all those people who fight all the time soon become unable to enjoy their money.
Floyd is a buisnessman and will go wherever the money is; as he says, belts do nothing but gather dust.
I fully agree that the thing separating Mayweather from Leonard and the like is his lack of strong adversaries, which is why boxing is trying so hard to make Pacquiao one since Mosley didn't work out. But it's unlikely that Pacquiao will be the guy to beat him (poor style matchup for Pacquiao) so what happens when/if Mayweather beats him in a lopsided decision or even late stoppage?
There are really still people who think Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacquiao? Hate is a strange emotion.
Castillo and Corrales.
Pacquiao has Morales and Marquez.
What's all this talk about fighters beating dudes in their prime like Mayweather is the first fighter to beat guys on the way down. Oscar made a career of it (Whitaker, Chavez).
Gamboa is way too small and doesn't put enough power behind his punches on a consistent basis. His combos are sharp but not powerful.
De La Hoya Tells Floyd Jr: Beat Ortiz, Maybe I'll Fight You
http://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-tells-floyd-jr-beat-ortiz-maybe-ill-fight-you--44291
By Chris LaBate
Golden Boy Promotions President Oscar De La Hoya has issued a response to WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. During various points of the day on Tuesday, Mayweather was firing off social network insults at De La Hoya and former champion Victor Ortiz. Mayweather was very upset with the allegations being made by Ortiz and De La Hoya, who on Monday held a conference call with the media to discuss their concerns with the outcome of the fight.
During his first series of attacks, Mayweather told Ortiz to win a rematch with Andre Berto in order to secure a rematch of their September 17th bout.
"I'll give Ortiz a rematch but first he got to get past Andre Berto. The only man who can beat me is the man in the mirror. Victoria Ortiz's new nickname is 'take two of these and call me in the morning.' Victoria Ortiz thought it was a head-butting contest. But that two-piece gave him some [incentive to] act right," Mayweather fired off.
But later, Mayweather threatened both Ortiz and De La Hoya.
"I left the fight in the ring, but Oscar and Ortiz keep doing interviews crying like some Golden Girl b*tches. I will f*ck both of you up," Mayweather fired off.
De La Hoya is possibly willing to make a comeback, telling Mayweather to beat Ortiz "fair" and maybe they can fight again. De La Hoya lost a close twelve round split desision to Mayweather is 2007, which is still a fight that holds the pay-per-view buyrate record by a significant margin.
"It's so sad, Mayweather has to bash people and flaunt money that he's not going to have when he retires. Give Ortiz a rematch, try to beat him fair...and then maybe...just maybe - I will give you another chance at me," De La Hoya said.
Last Saturday night in Las Vegas, Ortiz struck Mayweather with an intentional headbutt in the fourth round. He was penalized a point by referee Joe Cortez. To apologize, Ortiz came over to Mayweather and gave him a hug. As Ortiz pulled back from that hug, Mayweather blasted him with two punches and put him down for the count.
According to Ortiz, the referee never issued a verbal order to resume fighting, and because of that Ortiz was off-guard and had his hands by his side. He blasted Mayweather in several interviews, claiming Mayweather won with a "cheap shot" and he demanded a rematch.
Shouldn't Ortiz or De La pull the Pac Method and take Floyd to court (instead of fighting) for shit talking... after all he made a threat.
http://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-tells-floyd-jr-beat-ortiz-maybe-ill-fight-you--44291
By Chris LaBate
Golden Boy Promotions President Oscar De La Hoya has issued a response to WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. During various points of the day on Tuesday, Mayweather was firing off social network insults at De La Hoya and former champion Victor Ortiz. Mayweather was very upset with the allegations being made by Ortiz and De La Hoya, who on Monday held a conference call with the media to discuss their concerns with the outcome of the fight.
During his first series of attacks, Mayweather told Ortiz to win a rematch with Andre Berto in order to secure a rematch of their September 17th bout.
"I'll give Ortiz a rematch but first he got to get past Andre Berto. The only man who can beat me is the man in the mirror. Victoria Ortiz's new nickname is 'take two of these and call me in the morning.' Victoria Ortiz thought it was a head-butting contest. But that two-piece gave him some [incentive to] act right," Mayweather fired off.
But later, Mayweather threatened both Ortiz and De La Hoya.
"I left the fight in the ring, but Oscar and Ortiz keep doing interviews crying like some Golden Girl b*tches. I will f*ck both of you up," Mayweather fired off.
De La Hoya is possibly willing to make a comeback, telling Mayweather to beat Ortiz "fair" and maybe they can fight again. De La Hoya lost a close twelve round split desision to Mayweather is 2007, which is still a fight that holds the pay-per-view buyrate record by a significant margin.
"It's so sad, Mayweather has to bash people and flaunt money that he's not going to have when he retires. Give Ortiz a rematch, try to beat him fair...and then maybe...just maybe - I will give you another chance at me," De La Hoya said.
Last Saturday night in Las Vegas, Ortiz struck Mayweather with an intentional headbutt in the fourth round. He was penalized a point by referee Joe Cortez. To apologize, Ortiz came over to Mayweather and gave him a hug. As Ortiz pulled back from that hug, Mayweather blasted him with two punches and put him down for the count.
According to Ortiz, the referee never issued a verbal order to resume fighting, and because of that Ortiz was off-guard and had his hands by his side. He blasted Mayweather in several interviews, claiming Mayweather won with a "cheap shot" and he demanded a rematch.
Shouldn't Ortiz or De La pull the Pac Method and take Floyd to court (instead of fighting) for shit talking... after all he made a threat.
Read the record section of this link. Floyd has NEVER fought at a catchweight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather,_Jr.
Read this link. Pac's latest and most proclaimed fights were ALL at catchweight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao
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