Jeezy Speaks On Beef With Rick Ross With Angie Martinez

[dtownsfinest]

I wouldn't put Ross in that discussion yet because he hasn't made anybody hot yet. Triple C's were ass, Wale already had a name for himself and I have to see what Meek Mill does after "Tupac Back"

I disagree. Rawse already gave Meek Mill more shine then he was EVER gonna get on any other label. Gunplay buzz is starting to build up and while Wale had a fanbase his fanbase started to dissolve and stay stagnant. I don't know what Self Made is doing but I do know its getting burn this summer in the streets. Self Made did its job. It put niggas on to Pill, Meek and Wale. I'm more impressed with the fact he got all those niggas to sign to him as well as Stalley. They must be giving out some damn good deals over there. I think part of it has to do with Rawse and his way to make albums for the low and still put out a quality product. That Self Made album had some BEATS on it and the only real recognizable dudes were Just Blaze and Lex.

 

[dtownsfinest]

nigga are you serious? during 08 Jeezy was on Kanye album, 09 he was on Jigga's album and the following year he was on Drake's album. Thats the three biggest artist in the game.

Gucci will NEVER make a song with kanye, jigga or be featured on a drake album.

Yea but you acting like those the only niggas in music. Gucci been on songs with Black Eyed Peas, Mariah Carey, Trey Songz and Lil' Wayne. People just as popular as Drake, Jay and Kanye. And Gucci ain't lablemates with none of those niggas like Jeezy is/was with Kanye and Jay.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Gucci will NEVER make a song with kanye, jigga or be featured on a drake album.

And his fans dont want him to. Worst mistake Gucci could make is doing songs with those cats. That aint him, wont ever be him. Stay in his lane and let them dudes continue to make pop records. As Jeezy has proven, keeping your original fans happy lasts longer and is more fruitful than doing records with big dogs who dont fit your style to gain a few new fans.

 

[mathtest]

Worst mistake Freddie Gibbs every made in his career was signing to Jeezy. Stupid move. He's never gonna drop.

what the fuck was that nigga thinking

 

[ShortyCumStain]

MAN I KNOW break up and beat it up was gettin burn.

Da first track was Mario's song so that shit doesn't even count.

Man I still hear "Lemonade" in the club to this day. I'm not gonna act like its no timeless cut but that shit got burn on urban radio and in clubs. Shit BET and MTV Jams use to play the shit out of it too. And "Spotlight" was that wack ass song he had with Usher.

Oh, I remember that song now. That ol' techno-pop soundin' shit. Nah, I don't know about elsewhere but here, it wasn't nowhere as big as "Wasted".

nigga Gucci had the game on lock back in 08-09 right before he got locked up.

I'd say from late '06 until '09.

Shaddy are you saying that the Intro gets more play than Get your mind right? LOL...Seriously BMF still can't fuck with Get your mind right in terms of reaction. Seriously ask ANY of these dudes from the South or anywhere else. I'm in NYC and the shit goes crzy off that.

Leave that man alone. If it ain't anything concerning Cam'ron or some battle/mixtape rappers then he barely knows what he's talkin' about in regards to music.

The first dude(s) I credit with "ATL trap rap" are Ghetto Mafia and Cool Breeze of the Dungeon Family.

That's what I was tryin' to tell these niggas.

Im tellin ya fam

You play it 10 years from now imma be damn near 40 still about lose it

Hell, dependin' on da atmosphere, niggas'll start fightin' like cats & dogs. Shit gets me hype enough to slap a nigga taste buds on activation mode.

Btw, I always thought that "Trap or Die" should've been all Jeezy verses b/c I liked Bun B's verse but not like that.

 

[D-TOWN REP]

keep my gucci out of this

he a gold mouth dawg definition of the south

and no quarters aint no halves just some wholes in his house

aint no bitch it aint no bed it aint no clothes in his house

its a drought and his price will make your eyes pop out

 

[tuckdog]

The funny thing is, I'm pretty sure Jeezy knew about the whole C.O. thing well before the general public, but never spoke on it or claimed to have an issue with Ross's persona when Jeezy was the hottest in the South. But as soon as Ross starts making major noise and Jeezy can't produce a single that generates interest or get a release date for his project, all of a sudden the Ross disses start flying.

I thought the Southern hip hop community was better than this. Jeezy been hanging up top too much.

 

[tuckdog]

keep my gucci out of this

D-Town you the homey, but this is pretty pause worthy.

 

[dtownsfinest]

what the fuck was that nigga thinking

Man I don't even fucking know. And I heard him try to explain that shit by saying "Jeezy real....this and that" but man Jeezy ain't releasing no niggas album. Hell he not even releasing his own shit. All that buzz Freddie Gibbs had he just killed it by signing with Jeezy. Shit atleast he put him on that last mixtape he dropped but damn Freddie. And I hate to do this shit again but in comparison look what Rawse has done with Pill, Meek and Wale in just the little time they signed with him compared to what Jeezy has done for Freddie? Or shit for what Jeezy has done with Slick Pulla who been there for 6 years?

 

[FJP]

Im tellin ya fam

You play it 10 years from now imma be damn near 40 still about lose it

Man that play it and I'm 70 I'm gonna hop out the wheelchair and start

 

[DeadFresh]

Jeezy all day over Ross....

 

[DeadFresh]

dbl

 

[Duffle_Bag]

I wouldn't put Ross in that discussion yet because he hasn't made anybody hot yet. Triple C's were ass, Wale already had a name for himself and I have to see what Meek Mill does after "Tupac Back"

"Imma Boss" is arguably just as big or not bigger than "Tupac Back." Rawse did his job with these niggas. He got them on the radio and he got them buzzing. And Wale got release date while Jeezy don't.

 

[tuckdog]

Worst mistake Freddie Gibbs every made in his career was signing to Jeezy. Stupid move. He's never gonna drop.

what the fuck was that nigga thinking

Yeah, that was the most head scratching signing of the year. Maybe he'll get a release date after Slick Pulla drops.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Yeah, that was the most head scratching signing of the year. Maybe he'll get a release date after Slick Pulla drops.

Yea its gonna be the same day that Detox drops and that Cuban Links album.

 

[mathtest]

Man I don't even fucking know. And I heard him try to explain that shit by saying "Jeezy real....this and that" but man Jeezy ain't releasing no niggas album. Hell he not even releasing his own shit. All that buzz Freddie Gibbs had he just killed it by signing with Jeezy. Shit atleast he put him on that last mixtape he dropped but damn Freddie. And I hate to do this shit again but in comparison look what Rawse has done with Pill, Meek and Wale in just the little time they signed with him compared to what Jeezy has done for Freddie? Or shit for what Jeezy has done with Slick Pulla who been there for 6 years?

Yeah, that was the most head scratching signing of the year. Maybe he'll get a release date after Slick Pulla drops.

what bugs me about the freddie gibbs thing is its gonna play out the same cliche way, he signs wit him when everybody knows its not a good move, he defends the signing, 4 or 5 yrs wit no album , he gets released from his contract and say some backwards shit like "im feeling good im out that contract , its time to move on etc" actin like its a blessin then a few months lata here comes the jeezy disses about how he's a bitch, he's fake etc etc, in 2015 ill make sure to come back to this thread and quote myself

 

[ShortyCumStain]

keep my gucci out of this

he a gold mouth dawg definition of the south

and no quarters aint no halves just some wholes in his house

aint no bitch it aint no bed it aint no clothes in his house

its a drought and his price will make your eyes pop out

"Swing my do', Swing my do', every time they swing my do'
I count 18.5 every time swing my do'...". Straight trap boy shit.

I ain't finna get into talkin' about da shit that Gucci be talkin' about in regards to trappin' though because...hmph.

 

[tuckdog]

Yea its gonna be the same day that Detox drops and that Cuban Links album.

what bugs me about the freddie gibbs thing is its gonna play out the same cliche way, he signs wit him when everybody knows its not a good move, he defends the signing, 4 or 5 yrs wit no album , he gets released from his contract and say some backwards shit like "im feeling good im out that contract , its time to move on etc" actin like its a blessin then a few months lata here comes the jeezy disses about how he's a bitch, he's fake etc etc, in 2015 ill make sure to come back tot his thread and quote myself

Man, I hope it doesn't take that long. Gangsta Gibbs the only one keeping that real gangsta music going with actual GOOD music.

 

[mathtest]

Man, I hope it doesn't take that long. Gangsta Gibbs the only one keeping that real gangsta music going with actual GOOD music.

u wont be getin no music from gangsta gibbs besides freestyles and mixtapes, the best bet is to hope he realizes quickly that its a bad move, if he's 1 of them stubborn niggaz or if jeezy is throwin him a lil bread to keep him happy here and there then its gonna be awhile b4 he gets out from under jeezy

 

[tuckdog]

u wont be getin no music from gangsta gibbs besides freestyles and mixtapes, the best bet is to hope he realizes quickly that its a bad move, if he's 1 of them stubborn niggaz or if jeezy if throwin him a lil bread to keep him happy here and there then its gonna be awhile b4 he gets out from under jeezy

 

[keone]

That was actually his best selling album, but that was only because Hustlin' was a big ass single. That's why album sales shouldn't even be a discussion in this thread because Port of Miami wasn't even his best album. Trilla and POM were his two top selling albums, and in my opinion, were his two worst albums. They only sold because of Hustlin and The Boss.

in his defense that album took a long ass time too drop. label dropped the ball with that one

Im tellin ya fam

You play it 10 years from now imma be damn near 40 still about lose it

dont brake your back

I wouldn't put Ross in that discussion yet because he hasn't made anybody hot yet. Triple C's were ass, Wale already had a name for himself and I have to see what Meek Mill does after "Tupac Back"

true

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

I disagree. Rawse already gave Meek Mill more shine then he was EVER gonna get on any other label. Gunplay buzz is starting to build up and while Wale had a fanbase his fanbase started to dissolve and stay stagnant. I don't know what Self Made is doing but I do know its getting burn this summer in the streets. Self Made did its job. It put niggas on to Pill, Meek and Wale. I'm more impressed with the fact he got all those niggas to sign to him as well as Stalley. They must be giving out some damn good deals over there. I think part of it has to do with Rawse and his way to make albums for the low and still put out a quality product. That Self Made album had some BEATS on it and the only real recognizable dudes were Just Blaze and Lex.

Gunplay has a buzz? The only thing I heard from him was when he got knocked the fuck out. All Ross did was get a homeless dude of the street give him an edge up and be his hype man.

 

[mathtest]

Gunplay has a buzz? The only thing I heard from him was when he got knocked the fuck out. All Ross did was get a homeless dude of the street give him an edge up and be his hype man.

he killed this track tho, out shines millz and ross, he has potential, thats my unbiased opinion

 

[tuckdog]

I wouldn't put Ross in that discussion yet because he hasn't made anybody hot yet. Triple C's were ass, Wale already had a name for himself and I have to see what Meek Mill does after "Tupac Back"

He may not be in the discussion yet but he's the only one trying. Out of all of the rapper/CEO's who, besides YMCMB and 50, is actually putting out music and videos from the other artists under them. Ye was trying at one point with Pusha T but since Watch the Throne was announced, Pusha hasn't been making any noise and T.I. dropped the ball with Killer Mike (as expected).

 

[keone]

Gunplay has a buzz? The only thing I heard from him was when he got knocked the fuck out. All Ross did was get a homeless dude of the street give him an edge up and be his hype man.

well in his defense he didnt had his mask on then

 

[ShortyCumStain]

Gunplay has a buzz?

No, he most certainly doesn't but I fucks w/his Inglorious Bastards mixtape & "Rollin'" is that shit.

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

Gunplay has a buzz? The only thing I heard from him was when he got knocked the fuck out. All Ross did was get a homeless dude of the street give him an edge up and be his hype man.

I don't know about Gunplay's buzz. I'm sure some niggas fuck with him but not like that, like "I can't wait for that Gunplay album"

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

He may not be in the discussion yet but he's the only one trying. Out of all of the rapper/CEO's who, besides YMCMB and 50, is actually putting out music and videos from the other artists under them. Ye was trying at one point with Pusha T but since Watch the Throne was announced, Pusha hasn't been making any noise and T.I. dropped the ball with Killer Mike (as expected).

And Ludacris. At one point, almost everybody on his label with a name was dropping albums on his label Bobby V, Shawna, I-20, Playaz Circle, Field Mob, Chingy.

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

Wow im not a rapper

 

[HARMCITY]

The funny thing is, I'm pretty sure Jeezy knew about the whole C.O. thing well before the general public, but never spoke on it or claimed to have an issue with Ross's persona when Jeezy was the hottest in the South. But as soon as Ross starts making major noise and Jeezy can't produce a single that generates interest or get a release date for his project, all of a sudden the Ross disses start flying.

I thought the Southern hip hop community was better than this. Jeezy been hanging up top too much.

EXACTLY!!!

Thats why Jeezy just as fake ...

Besides Meech and his mom co-signed the song ..

Jeezy just a bitter ass nigga

And I fucks with Jeezy , but lets keep it 100

 

[dtownsfinest]

Gunplay has a buzz? The only thing I heard from him was when he got knocked the fuck out. All Ross did was get a homeless dude of the street give him an edge up and be his hype man.

I said he's building buzz. He's more than a hype man. He's a better version of Waka Flocka. He's more than a hype man.



If you fuck with Flocka and Gucci you should be able to fuck with Gunplay shit. Gunplay can actually rap decently. I think niggas look at him for being a coke head and getting knocked out but dude be spitting on Rawse's albums.

 

[Complex]

Gucci got hits, Gucci got a movement, Gucci got artists under him that are relevant and people listen to, Gucci gets release dates for his albums. Gucci drops mixtapes regularly that he is able to tour off of. He got out on July 5th and been hitting clubs all over the south and midwest ever since off the strentgh of his Writings On The Walll pt.2 mixtape. As far as those two, its no comparison in 2011. Jeezy fell off and is tryna get back out there. Gucci gets locked up every summer but his shit is still more organized and relevant. Jeezy is still living off what he did on his 1st album. Jeezy has no artists under him that I nor anyone else is checking for. Jeezy makes the same generic dopeboy music over and over with knockoff Shawty Red/Lex Luger beats. His shit just dont got that personality it once did.

I wouldn't attribute that to Gucci. I wouldn't even say Waka's under Gucci. Hell I'd say Bricksquad is more her than him, since it's basically Mizay Entertainment. Even Lex Luger's under Mizay.

Waka's mom and uncle and have been in the industry for years, and his other uncle is a legend in Queens.

That's why Waka has put in so much work with different artist, from Reek Da Villain, to Wale, to Game and Uncle Murda. Waka can't rap, and has mad relationships in the industry and people who will work with him.

Besides all the arrest, one of Gucci's biggest mistakes was firing Deb Antney. That's why he hired her back. He must have been feeling himself, he's not anywhere near Nikki's level.

 

[HARMCITY]

Besides all the arrest, one of Gucci's biggest mistakes was firing Deb Antney. That's why he hired her back. He must have been feeling himself, he's not anywhere near Nikki's level.

He had to fire Deb the 1st time ..

They was booking shows while he was in jail , like he was gonna be there ..

The had predatory booking fees and all kinds of shit ..

Ozone Mag had a big article on it

 

[ChrisR]

After 7 pages and Jeezy still ain't recovered from those 3 consecutive Fuck Boi, Fuck Boi, Fuck Boi

And that keone/50 cent online marketing dude is ass to say the least

 

[Complex]

He had to fire Deb the 1st time ..

They was booking shows while he was in jail , like he was gonna be there ..

The had predatory booking fees and all kinds of shit ..

Ozone Mag had a big article on it

Yeah, but much of his success was due to her, that's why he went back.