Trojan Farce ???
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Good article.
I find it amusing that Mark May and Herbstreit are already calling this USC team at least #2 in HISTORY, yet they have not beaten Texas to actually win a championship. They were finally asked on one program the question that they had dodged all week.
"What if Texas wins the game" - They both said that if Texas wins, they would CONSIDER this 2005 Texas team somewhere in the top teams ?????
If Texas beats their already #2 in history team, why does this Texas team not get the #2 they would have given USC? I can understand that during the season, that if a #15 beats a #5, that #15 might go down to top 10 but not all the way to 5. But During the season, the standings are not concrete. #5 during the season may not deserve it. But the argument that makes them look like dummies is that they are not calling USC # anything for this season. They are calling them #2 ALL TIME.
I hope these are not they guys voting in any polls, cause they have no logic. And its people like them, not not having a clear winner, that makes awarding bowls/championships full of error.
I find it amusing that Mark May and Herbstreit are already calling this USC team at least #2 in HISTORY, yet they have not beaten Texas to actually win a championship. They were finally asked on one program the question that they had dodged all week.
"What if Texas wins the game" - They both said that if Texas wins, they would CONSIDER this 2005 Texas team somewhere in the top teams ?????
If Texas beats their already #2 in history team, why does this Texas team not get the #2 they would have given USC? I can understand that during the season, that if a #15 beats a #5, that #15 might go down to top 10 but not all the way to 5. But During the season, the standings are not concrete. #5 during the season may not deserve it. But the argument that makes them look like dummies is that they are not calling USC # anything for this season. They are calling them #2 ALL TIME.
I hope these are not they guys voting in any polls, cause they have no logic. And its people like them, not not having a clear winner, that makes awarding bowls/championships full of error.
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those KNOWLEDGEABLE sports writers strike again!
it's a pity, because mark may should stick to being an announcer and not a handicapper. i guess sterling credentials AS A PLAYER don't always amount to much AS AN ANALYST:
Mark May, a 13-year NFL veteran as an offensive lineman, serves as an analyst for ESPN and ESPN2 studio shows and select college football game telecasts.
May joined ESPN in 2001 after serving as an NFL game analyst for CBS Sports from 1998 to 2001. Prior to CBS Sports, May worked for Turner Sports (TNT and TBS) from 1995-99 as a studio and game analyst for college and pro football telecasts.
In 1994, he worked for WTAE Radio in Pittsburgh as the color commentator for University of Pittsburgh football games. Also in 1994, May co-hosted a two-hour post-game show following Washington Redskins’ games for WTEM Radio in Washington, D.C.
May was a first-round selection (20th) of the Washington Redskins in the 1981 NFL Draft. He played 10 years with the team where he was a starting offensive lineman – and a member of the famed “Hogs” offensive line – from 1982 to 1990. While with the Redskins, May was a three-time Super Bowl participant, winning two championships, and played in the Pro Bowl following the 1988 season. He also played with the San Diego Chargers for a year (1991) and retired after two seasons with the Arizona Cardinals (1992-93).
May, who attended the University of Pittsburgh, was consensus All-American and the Outland Trophy winner as the best offensive lineman in 1980. He majored in history and psychology.
and the other prognosticating dunce?
Kirk Herbstreit has been an ESPN college football studio analyst since August 1996, joining host Chris Fowler and co-analyst Lee Corso on College GameDay. Herbstreit, who joined ESPN in September 1995 as a college football sideline analyst for ESPN2, is also a game analyst for ESPN’s first-ever three-man college football commentator booth on Thursday nights with Corso (analyst) and Mike Tirico (play-by-play).
Herbstreit’s experience as a former standout Ohio State quarterback lends itself to providing insightful and entertaining analysis. His talents were quickly noticed, as after just two seasons he was nominated for a 1997 Sports Emmy Award as television’ s top studio analyst, along with veterans Cris Collinsworth (eventual winner), Howie Long, Terry Bradshaw and Steve Lyons.
Herbstreit is widely respected for his no-nonsense analysis and fresh-out-of-the-game perspective. His weekly "On Campus" segment on GameDay features insightful one-on-one interviews with college football’s impact players such as Virginia Tech’s Michael Vick and Alabama’s Freddie Milons. He is a frequent contributor to ESPN.com and ESPN The Magazine. In 1997, he wrote a weekly in-season column – "Inside The Game With Kirk Herbstreit" – for The Sporting News.
Since 1993, Herbstreit also has been host of Herbie and Benz, a daily sports radio show on The Fan SportsRadio 1460 in Columbus, Ohio, the Ohio State University flagship station, and also co-hosts Wall to Wall, a weekend sports wrap up show for WBNS-TV, also in Columbus. In addition, he served as a radio sideline reporter for the Ohio State University Football Radio Network during the 1993 and ‘94 seasons.
Herbstreit is a 1993 Ohio State graduate with a degree in business administration where he was a four-year Buckeye letterman as a quarterback (1989-92). As the starter and team captain during his senior season of 1992, he passed for close to 2,000 yards in an option-oriented offense, guiding OSU to an 8-3-1 mark, second place in the Big Ten, a Florida Citrus Bowl appearance and a No. 18 final AP ranking. For his efforts, he was named team MVP and most motivational player. Known for his quickness and scrambling skills, he had TD runs of 32 yards (Wisconsin) and 72 yards (Minnesota) as a junior. He was Ohio State coach John Cooper’s first signee.
A Centerville, Ohio, native (Dayton suburb), Herbstreit was the Ohio Player of the Year as a senior for Centerville HS (and 10-0 as a junior), as well as a standout baseball player. His father, Jim, a former high school football coach and player at OSU (1958-60), served as an assistant coach (1960-61 -- national champs in 1961) under the legendary Woody Hayes and also coached with Bo Schembechler.
Herbstreit and his wife Allison Butler (a former Ohio State cheerleader) have identical twins, Jake and Tye, born June 16, 2000.
those KNOWLEDGEABLE sports writers strike again!
it's a pity, because mark may should stick to being an announcer and not a handicapper. i guess sterling credentials AS A PLAYER don't always amount to much AS AN ANALYST:
Mark May, a 13-year NFL veteran as an offensive lineman, serves as an analyst for ESPN and ESPN2 studio shows and select college football game telecasts.
May joined ESPN in 2001 after serving as an NFL game analyst for CBS Sports from 1998 to 2001. Prior to CBS Sports, May worked for Turner Sports (TNT and TBS) from 1995-99 as a studio and game analyst for college and pro football telecasts.
In 1994, he worked for WTAE Radio in Pittsburgh as the color commentator for University of Pittsburgh football games. Also in 1994, May co-hosted a two-hour post-game show following Washington Redskins’ games for WTEM Radio in Washington, D.C.
May was a first-round selection (20th) of the Washington Redskins in the 1981 NFL Draft. He played 10 years with the team where he was a starting offensive lineman – and a member of the famed “Hogs” offensive line – from 1982 to 1990. While with the Redskins, May was a three-time Super Bowl participant, winning two championships, and played in the Pro Bowl following the 1988 season. He also played with the San Diego Chargers for a year (1991) and retired after two seasons with the Arizona Cardinals (1992-93).
May, who attended the University of Pittsburgh, was consensus All-American and the Outland Trophy winner as the best offensive lineman in 1980. He majored in history and psychology.
and the other prognosticating dunce?
Kirk Herbstreit has been an ESPN college football studio analyst since August 1996, joining host Chris Fowler and co-analyst Lee Corso on College GameDay. Herbstreit, who joined ESPN in September 1995 as a college football sideline analyst for ESPN2, is also a game analyst for ESPN’s first-ever three-man college football commentator booth on Thursday nights with Corso (analyst) and Mike Tirico (play-by-play).
Herbstreit’s experience as a former standout Ohio State quarterback lends itself to providing insightful and entertaining analysis. His talents were quickly noticed, as after just two seasons he was nominated for a 1997 Sports Emmy Award as television’ s top studio analyst, along with veterans Cris Collinsworth (eventual winner), Howie Long, Terry Bradshaw and Steve Lyons.
Herbstreit is widely respected for his no-nonsense analysis and fresh-out-of-the-game perspective. His weekly "On Campus" segment on GameDay features insightful one-on-one interviews with college football’s impact players such as Virginia Tech’s Michael Vick and Alabama’s Freddie Milons. He is a frequent contributor to ESPN.com and ESPN The Magazine. In 1997, he wrote a weekly in-season column – "Inside The Game With Kirk Herbstreit" – for The Sporting News.
Since 1993, Herbstreit also has been host of Herbie and Benz, a daily sports radio show on The Fan SportsRadio 1460 in Columbus, Ohio, the Ohio State University flagship station, and also co-hosts Wall to Wall, a weekend sports wrap up show for WBNS-TV, also in Columbus. In addition, he served as a radio sideline reporter for the Ohio State University Football Radio Network during the 1993 and ‘94 seasons.
Herbstreit is a 1993 Ohio State graduate with a degree in business administration where he was a four-year Buckeye letterman as a quarterback (1989-92). As the starter and team captain during his senior season of 1992, he passed for close to 2,000 yards in an option-oriented offense, guiding OSU to an 8-3-1 mark, second place in the Big Ten, a Florida Citrus Bowl appearance and a No. 18 final AP ranking. For his efforts, he was named team MVP and most motivational player. Known for his quickness and scrambling skills, he had TD runs of 32 yards (Wisconsin) and 72 yards (Minnesota) as a junior. He was Ohio State coach John Cooper’s first signee.
A Centerville, Ohio, native (Dayton suburb), Herbstreit was the Ohio Player of the Year as a senior for Centerville HS (and 10-0 as a junior), as well as a standout baseball player. His father, Jim, a former high school football coach and player at OSU (1958-60), served as an assistant coach (1960-61 -- national champs in 1961) under the legendary Woody Hayes and also coached with Bo Schembechler.
Herbstreit and his wife Allison Butler (a former Ohio State cheerleader) have identical twins, Jake and Tye, born June 16, 2000.
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