Tariq Nasheed vs Umar Johnson

I watched both of their attacks upon eachother and its sad as fuck. Ive met Umar several times and dude comes off as a good dude in person. But this is a bad fucking look and reeks of ego and emotionalism. I dont ever believe Umar could steal because his ego is just too fucking massive for that. He literally wants a school to better than all the others. The problem is that I dont know if he wants this for the kids or to boost his massive fucking ego. And thats fucking tragic.

As for Tariq, ive never met dude but i have talked to people who have. Dude is all about his money. He's only about his money. I was there in Rochester when Umar was sweating about getting that dvd in time for his lecture. He mentioned privately that Tariq was charging him to show the shit and i think hes hated him every since for that. As for tariq its been known that he uses a white staff. Hell he has behind the scenes pics where you see the white folks. If youre saying that he couldnt find a black filmmaker youre out of your mind. He has also been raping yall with donations too. He'll tell you that he has the amazon best seller than ask you to donate to his next project.

I just started recently liking nasheed and ive always fucked with umar.

At this point im about to be done with both of these clown ass niggas. this shit is disgusting.

Btw Tariq said he made Umar. Saneter is the one who blew Umar up and thats not even up for debate. Tariq simply gave him more of an audience.

Damn
 
Btw Tariq said he made Umar. Saneter is the one who blew Umar up and thats not even up for debate. Tariq simply gave him more of an audience.

Good brother, Sa Neter showed Umar on some videos etc.. Most people outside of the Northeast were not watching that stuff. I used to watch all that House of Consciousness stuff. In truth Umar blew up after Hidden Colors it exposed him to a very wide audience. I live upstate also and met Umar a couple times (appeared to be a good brother) but dude seems to have lost his way. He seemed real cool when I met him though. I haven't meant Tariq but I feel he is more business oriented that's how he was able to put out Hidden Colors. I have never seen pictures of Tariq staff. Sometimes I think as a people we nitpick at certain shit. Sa Neter would of loved to put out a Hidden Colors but he still hasn't figured out how to do anything but put out these waste of time recycled debates.
 
It may not say it but it's implied. Brother in here trying to be disingenuous intentionally misleading folks. Most folks who pick up that book are already of that mindset. A lot of cherry picking going on in this thread and it's obvious whose Black and whose white. Funny watching brother's do the same shit they accuse Umar and Tariq of doing because they feel the masses on BGOL don't read or study.

Bruh that some weak shit. Isn't obligated....:confused:..really...is that how we are operating now:confused:
Code on/code off:roflmao:

Not weak or cherry picking at all. You're the ones cherry picking!

If you're down for the cause,

  1. Use only camera equipment created by black people, which means no Canon, Nikon, etc
  2. Use only editing software designed by blacks, no Adobe, Final Cut, etc.
  3. Use only black online distribution channels, no Amazon, Apple, etc
  4. Use only black social networks, no Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, etc
  5. Use only black bank merchant accounts, no Paypal, Square, etc.
Let's go all the way with it, don't just single Tariq out over the production crew. Otherwise you're in principle being a hypocrite.

You're cherry picking a black film crew, when Tariq said he tried a black crew, they failed, then he moved on to some white boys that could do that job.

Neely Fuller doesn't advocate separation other than from each other unless it's constructive. He never said refuse to buy non-black products and services. His aim is to produce justice and eliminate the system of white supremacy. He never said buy black only, although it's a good idea.

Now I'm FOR supporting black businesses 100%, but until there are reliable black products and services in all areas, Economics, Education, Entertainment, Labor, Law, Politics, Religion, Sex & War, we're going to have to rely on this system in certain ways. I'm not judging Tariq for hiring non-black people. I think he should try to as hard as possible to do so, but at the end of the day that's his decision.



"I think there are plenty of good people in America, but there are also plenty of bad people in America and the bad ones are the ones who seem to have all the power and be in these positions to block the things that you and I need. Because this is the situation, and it does not mean I advocate violence, but at the same time I am not against using violence in self-defense. I don't even call it violence when it's self-defense... I call it intelligence." - Malcolm X
 
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And why wouldn't he? (rhetorically speaking)
He's a longtime regular here, so the Ock vengence spirit of Ogun runs deep in his veins when attacked :lol:

Umar went at the wrong one :smh::lol2:

Hell, there might be a Build-The-School app created with Umar as the construction foreman or some shit :lol:
man don't give that nigga no ideas. lol
 
Good brother, Sa Neter showed Umar on some videos etc.. Most people outside of the Northeast were not watching that stuff. I used to watch all that House of Consciousness stuff. In truth Umar blew up after Hidden Colors it exposed him to a very wide audience. I live upstate also and met Umar a couple times (appeared to be a good brother) but dude seems to have lost his way. He seemed real cool when I met him though. I haven't meant Tariq but I feel he is more business oriented that's how he was able to put out Hidden Colors. I have never seen pictures of Tariq staff. Sometimes I think as a people we nitpick at certain shit. Sa Neter would of loved to put out a Hidden Colors but he still hasn't figured out how to do anything but put out these waste of time recycled debates.

nah youre not giving saneter the credit that he deserves. first and foremost tariq said he made umar. thats ridicoulsly false.
to be anything in the infiltrated conscious community you go through saneter first (btw saneter's reach is far more than just the east coast and its been that way for a decade plus)
umar blew up and was doing lectures way before hidden colors. im sure tariq was watching saneters work and thats what made him go after him.
the nigga lives in l.a there is no way he was watching a local philly show. hell saneter was the one who would post those local shows umar did.
and btw you cant call out white supremacy every day and then hire a white staff. thats not nitpicking thats hypocrisy. but ive seen you posts 100 tariq threads so youll ignore that.
both of these dudes are looking like fucking frauds. tariq is damn near 50 and umar just turned 40. the shit is embarassing
 
nah youre not giving saneter the credit that he deserves. first and foremost tariq said he made umar. thats ridicoulsly false.
to be anything in the infiltrated conscious community you go through saneter first (btw saneter's reach is far more than just the east coast and its been that way for a decade plus)
umar blew up and was doing lectures way before hidden colors. im sure tariq was watching saneters work and thats what made him go after him.
the nigga lives in l.a there is no way he was watching a local philly show. hell saneter was the one who would post those local shows umar did.
and btw you cant call out white supremacy every day and then hire a white staff. thats not nitpicking thats hypocrisy. but ive seen you posts 100 tariq threads so youll ignore that.
both of these dudes are looking like fucking frauds. tariq is damn near 50 and umar just turned 40. the shit is embarassing

We are in agreement for the most part. Hidden Colors made Umar able to go international. I haven't seen Tariq staff I know he employs black folks and he says all the time. Regardless it's a sad situation when we should be focused on building. Happy Kwanzaa brother!
 
I watched both of their attacks upon eachother and its sad as fuck. Ive met Umar several times and dude comes off as a good dude in person. But this is a bad fucking look and reeks of ego and emotionalism. I dont ever believe Umar could steal because his ego is just too fucking massive for that. He literally wants a school to better than all the others. The problem is that I dont know if he wants this for the kids or to boost his massive fucking ego. And thats fucking tragic.

As for Tariq, ive never met dude but i have talked to people who have. Dude is all about his money. He's only about his money. I was there in Rochester when Umar was sweating about getting that dvd in time for his lecture. He mentioned privately that Tariq was charging him to show the shit and i think hes hated him every since for that. As for tariq its been known that he uses a white staff. Hell he has behind the scenes pics where you see the white folks. If youre saying that he couldnt find a black filmmaker youre out of your mind. He has also been raping yall with donations too. He'll tell you that he has the amazon best seller than ask you to donate to his next project.

I just started recently liking nasheed and ive always fucked with umar.

At this point im about to be done with both of these clown ass niggas. this shit is disgusting.

Btw Tariq said he made Umar. Saneter is the one who blew Umar up and thats not even up for debate. Tariq simply gave him more of an audience.
So then as of last night, Umar has publicly bitten both the hands that fed him.
 
So then as of last night, Umar has publicly bitten both the hands that fed him.

nah umar hasnt fucked with saneter or tariq in yrs.
he's still selling out lectures...he just literally sold out atlanta
hell we love the drama anyway
 
cant believe grown men follow tariq,dude almost says nothing intelligent.

just uses black trigger words...mostly white supremacy every third sentence.

i scratch my head grown men take tariq seriously...

i always revert back to the debate with afrobabe made tariq sweat in a call in debate...dude is weak as fukk.
 


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If this has been known to him then he's just as guilty based on his complicity.
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I JUST saw Umar say 'You pimpin' the hood - but that ain't none of my business. You exploiting people's thirst for knowledge, but that ain't none of my business."

If you think dude out here taking advantage of black folks, how is that shit none of your business? You only talk about the shit 'cause dude applying pressure to you?

These motherfuckers are just emotional now, and not even thinking about what they're saying.
 
Anytime I see someone go too OVER THE TOP with the African stuff (wearing African dashikis and shit) and talking about Racism 24/7, I always sense bs.

But, both Umar and Tariq have giving me valuable info. Ive supported both of them, and Id support again if what theyre selling made sense.

As far as this shit...im not interested. The shit with Tommy S. was funny and warranted....but this shit seems corny, imho. They even got Dr Boyce Watkins involved.

Internet fights were always lame to me, but seeing 40+ year old dudes going at each other over the internet......straight weirdo shit.

Their internet reputation is important for both of these dudes to make money. They're marketing. It may seem like some dumb petty shit to us, which it is. But to them it means they can lose their business. I agree that they are both on that BS a lot of times. Umar a hell of a lot more. I personally don't care what either of these dudes say about anything or these e-beefs. If I like a product they put out, I'm still going to buy it.
 
As for Tariq, ive never met dude but i have talked to people who have. Dude is all about his money. He's only about his money. I was there in Rochester when Umar was sweating about getting that dvd in time for his lecture. He mentioned privately that Tariq was charging him to show the shit and i think hes hated him every since for that. As for tariq its been known that he uses a white staff. Hell he has behind the scenes pics where you see the white folks. If youre saying that he couldnt find a black filmmaker youre out of your mind. He has also been raping yall with donations too. He'll tell you that he has the amazon best seller than ask you to donate to his next project.

This is 100% true. But he's also about puting money into black people's hands. On his podcasts he's always looking to hire black coders, graphic artists, models, etc. He's always asking about black restaurants to go and gives him them free publicity. And there's some on this board who've made bread because of Tariq. Most of us should be about making money and be unapologetic about it.
 
:hmm:
You can't use Esther Rolle to clown Umar. She is a national treasure

But these dudes can't see that.... :smh:

But this yet ANOTHER example of the bullshit from Tariq Nasheed.
This wanna be pimp is NOT about Black empowerment.
- He dislikes Black women.
- He has known about Umar (Jermaine Shoemake) for years.
- He's in "the struggle" for fame & the green.
- He (just like Umar Johnson) sells his own people half truths and information they could find out for themselves. "Hidden Colors" 3, 4, 5 etc... (Might as well be a Fast & Furious franchise...) :hmm:
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The "New" Faces of Black Leadership... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2:

And (somehow) right in the center of it all is 'ole Boyce Watkins....:rolleyes2:
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A man who :
- Hates Barack Obama with a passion and manages to throw shade at him in virtually every video he makes & at every opportunity on his channel. (Just like his idol Cornell West).
- Holds up Damon Dash as an example of entrepreneurship Blacks should emulate.
- Subliminally encouraged Blacks NOT to vote in the last election. (Winner Trump).
- Has publically dick rided BOTH of these snake oil salesmen before falling out with Umar Johnson. (Currently riding Tariq's dick. But just wait for it...).
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Fucked over Yvette Carnell (his BEST cheerleader) over money.

"New Black Leadership" indeed...
:hmm::hmm::hmm:
 
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You right man. I been giving them the benefit of the doubt.....these dudes crave attention like IG hoes they just do it in a different form.

Right on, right on, right on!!! I swear this need for attention is outta hand!! They are attention dopamine junkies!! I can no longer keep watching this 6th grade chest bumping match, so Im withdrawing myself from this madness!! Were better than this!! At Least, I thought we were!!
 
Right on, right on, right on!!! I swear this need for attention is outta hand!! They are attention dopamine junkies!! I can no longer keep watching this 6th grade chest bumping match, so Im withdrawing myself from this madness!! Were better than this!! At Least, I thought we were!!



U took off your straight jacket. Got damn no one said it was okay for u to start "thinking". U a bigger fool then I figured. U checking for these ho tep skreet hood rats.
 
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