GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defunded!

Djmarkxr7

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GOP goes all-in on ‘de-fund ObamaCare,’ as shutdown looms

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House Speaker John Boehner, in an abrupt turnaround, plans to let Tea Party lawmakers have a vote on de-funding ObamaCare as part of a politically risky strategy which Democrats warn could result in a government shutdown.

GOP leaders unveiled their plan to members on Wednesday morning, teeing up a vote for Friday -- the proposed bill would tie the vote to de-fund the health care law to a vote on a stopgap spending bill. Current funding for the government is set to expire at the end of the month, and lawmakers must approve the stopgap bill in order to keep Washington open; conservatives see this as leverage to force a suspension of ObamaCare.

"The law's a trainwreck," Boehner said of the Affordable Care Act. "It's time to protect American families from this unworkable law."

Effectively, Boehner and his deputies have backed off a compromise approach they earlier tried to sell to rank-and-file conservatives. Under that plan, the House would have sent two bills to the Senate -- one to de-fund ObamaCare, the other to fund the government. The Senate, then, would have been able to easily bypass the ObamaCare bill and send the spending measure straight to the White House, in turn averting a government shutdown.

But House conservatives revolted, and Boehner now plans to tie the two votes together. Under the plan, funding the government would be conditional on de-funding ObamaCare. It is a concession to House conservatives as well as senators like Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and outside groups like the Heritage Foundation that have demanded Congress use the must-pass budget bill as leverage to derail the health care law.

But it is also undoubtedly risky.

President Obama and Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid have warned Republicans not to go down that road, suggesting that they will bear the brunt of the blame if the gambit results in a government shutdown.

Obama blasted Republicans during an interview Tuesday with Telemundo.

"We're hearing that a certain faction of Republicans, in the House of Representatives in particular are arguing for government shutdown or even a default for the United States of America ... if they don't get 100 percent of what they want," Obama said.

Republicans also plan to push a measure dealing with the debt ceiling, with a mid-October deadline looming for when the government can no longer honor its obligations. GOP leaders say that measure will include an effort to delay the implementation of the health care law.

Democratic leaders have no intention, though, of supporting any effort to de-fund the health law, and the Senate would likely reject such a move and send the measure back.

Then it would be an open question as to whether the House could pass a straight budget bill. Boehner might be compelled to consider passing a budget with a coalition of mostly Democrats. Or, the House and Senate could get stuck in a bout of legislative ping-pong, each passing its own bill and bouncing it over to the other chamber.

But that could only last so long, since government funding runs out at midnight on Sept. 30. The bill would become a hot potato -- neither chamber would want to have it when the clock runs out.

"When it comes to a government shutdown, it may depend on who is holding the ball at the end," said Rep. Steve Southerland, R-Fla.

Fox News' Chad Pergram and The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nd-obamacare-as-shutdown-looms/#ixzz2fG17Z8qp
 

ballscout1

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Re: GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defun

they have already shown they cannot defund Obamacare and even if they shut down the government Obamacare will still be funded...
 

cmac105

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Re: GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defun

lol @ shutting down the government.
 

BDR

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Re: GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defun

:smh:
 

Dark19

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Re: GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defun

Let It Happen...Cause the Blame is Gonna Fall Squarely on Them Where it Belongs :yes::lol::dance:
 

Dark19

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Re: GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defun

they have already shown they cannot defund Obamacare and even if they shut down the government Obamacare will still be funded...

Zackly....If They Go Thru With This Bullshit Shut Down That Won't Change Anything....They Will Have Just Committed Party Suicide :dance::dance::dance:
 

durham

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Everyone knows what congress is going to do, the question is will Obama stick to his guns for once.

The national debt is too high..that is common knowledge, the affordable care act certainly isn't the issue.

Either they raise taxes and tariffs, AND cut the military budget significantly, or Shit is going to crumble anyway.
 

ballscout1

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Re: GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defun

Everyone knows what congress is going to do, the question is will Obama stick to his guns for once.

The national debt is too high..that is common knowledge, the affordable care act certainly isn't the issue.

Either they raise taxes and tariffs, AND cut the military budget significantly, or Shit is going to crumble anyway.

what everyone doesn't know because the media doesn't report it is that the defecit has come down by quite a bit.

so the sequester was pointless and the cuts to regular people the GOP is pushing is punative and has nothing to do with the defecit
 

Mo-Better

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Re: GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defun

Actually they've never stopped being on that ISH. :hmm:
 

HeathCliff

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Re: GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defun

what everyone doesn't know because the media doesn't report it is that the defecit has come down by quite a bit.

so the sequester was pointless and the cuts to regular people the GOP is pushing is punative and has nothing to do with the defecit

yep
 

Dark19

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Re: GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defun

what everyone doesn't know because the media doesn't report it is that the defecit has come down by quite a bit.

so the sequester was pointless and the cuts to regular people the GOP is pushing is punative and has nothing to do with the defecit

^^^This^^^
 

Djmarkxr7

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Re: GOP On That ISH Again, Threatening To Shut Down Government Unless Obamacare Defun

what everyone doesn't know because the media doesn't report it is that the defecit has come down by quite a bit.

so the sequester was pointless and the cuts to regular people the GOP is pushing is punative and has nothing to do with the defecit

:yes::yes::yes:
ALL the sequester has done is stunt the economy's growth, and what the GOP doesn't want ANYONE to know is that the early parts of "Obamacare" that have been put in place have driven medical care costs DOWN, after years of Repubs saying that they would be driven up, and ALL of them are echoing what former RNC Chairman Michael Steele said on Bill Maher Friday night on the subject, "Speak to me again NEXT year on this!", lol, why not now?!?:lol:

On the sequester:
It would be easy to say that the Republicans planned it this way so as to make sure that they get their agenda through, which includes more cuts to spending, but they are patriotic Americans and aren’t supposedly doing that, right? Well, hopefully they will pay attention to the recent report out of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) regarding the damage being done to the US economy by the indiscriminate cuts in federal spending known as sequestration.

The IMF stated that the risk to US growth from the cuts meant that the economy was “modestly tilted to the downside”, and noted that the reduction of $85 billion in government expenditures this year had slowed down demand and investment. The cuts in payroll taxes didn’t help much either.

IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde and the IMF estimated that the decreases in federal spending and higher taxes may have resulted in a drop of projected growth by up to 1.75 percentage points. The IMF estimates growth to be just around 1.9%. Without the sequestration cuts, that amount would have been around 3.5%.

This means that there will be a delay in the rebounding of the US labor market and long-term growth was expected to be very slow. Currently, around one in seven Americans cannot find full-time jobs.

Lagarde stated “The sequester cuts not only reduced growth in the short term, but they also hurt the most vulnerable and they produce very undesirable effects in that regard.”
http://peaceeconomyproject.org/wordpress/?p=1714


On "Obamacare":
Health reform efforts failed and insurers saw a patient backlash against managed care, which tended to limit access to specialists. In the early 2000s, as you can see above, health-care costs once again grew much faster than the rest of of the economy.

So is this time any different? Levitt thinks it could be. For one thing, the health law passed this time around — and statistics on hospital readmissions, for example, have already shown a notable drop in the amount of care being delivered.

"The run-up to the Affordable Care Act, and the initiatives put in place by the law, are absolutely having an effect," he says. "I think providers and payers see health reform coming and they want to get ready to lower their costs."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/22/heres-why-health-care-costs-are-slowing/
 
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