AnOTHER BOXER CAUGHT ON PEDS

Zeferino

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Yep.... and the world keeps moving. Some people are willing to go deeper down the hole of bullshit no matter what argument is presented so Zef wins. Nothing to see here people... move the fuck on and ever stupid argument he brings up is better off ignored.

Not for you, obviously. You steady just stay on my dick and follow me around different threads like an ex girlfriend. I just have to laugh at the profound effect I must have had on you emotionally. You should be ashamed to call yourself a man getting all caught up on anonymous dudes over the Internet. You're just another little boy from the ghetto that failed as a rapper and wants to blame everything on the white man.:lol:
 

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Yeah, people forget but Mosley was damn near Roy Jonesque at 135. Mosley was ridiculous not just with his hands but the footwork was crazy. All I'm saying is it is confirmed that Mosley was on PEDs at 154 and that is coincidentally where he looked like a piece of shit. If these PEDs do all these wonderful things for boxers then Mosley with the natural talent he already had should have been decapitating guys and landing ten punch combos in one second. At this point, PEDS helping boxers is just a legend.

Man, at 135 Shane was one of the most incredible fighters I have ever seen.
 

da_monumental_1

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Man, at 135 Shane was one of the most incredible fighters I have ever seen.

Mosley at his best



Damn. I miss USA's Tuesday Night Fights. Sean O'Grady and Al Albert were the best. They'd have you cracking the fuck up.

Mosley's footwork was beautiful here.


Beautiful bodywork. Larry Merchant stupid ass when he wasn't too "assholish".




I miss Cassius Green too. He's the cutman who used to be in Mosley's corner with the admiral's cap. Ali's cornerman, Bundini rubbed off on him.
 

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Let's see

Shane Mosley has one confirmed fight using PEDs. To many of fans, he didn't look very effective but to the judges, he looked effective enough and won the fight against a very game Oscar De La Hoya.
How he looked to us is irrelevent, even if our opinion is a particularly popular one (he didn't look as good as we're used to seeing him but he wasn't exactly sizzling in any jr middleweight fight) but the only opinions that matter are and were the judges for that fight and they say he looked good enough. Now the question is: if he wasn't juiced, would Oscar have won that fight?

Floyd Mayweather wants to take that out of the equation and as fans, all of us should as well. Hell, even if you hated him and loved Manny like he was your dad, you wouldn't want him to have any excuses for losing to Pacquiao in the ring.
 

gene cisco

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Exactly, if anything they show the exact opposite of an improvement. I just want to see some confirmed examples. That shouldn't be too much to ask for.

You'll be waiting until doomsday. There are no confirmed examples. Cats can't even name a stack that would do all the shit some of them claim boxers get from PEDs.

Can certain PEDs dramatically increase punching power and/or muscle mass? Of course. But there are side effects that will take away from in ring performance.

Winny is a drug that some choose to take. But as you can see by boxers who have been knocked while on it, the benefits aren't that great.

The shit isn't like Rocky 4.
 

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You'll be waiting until doomsday. There are no confirmed examples. Cats can't even name a stack that would do all the shit some of them claim boxers get from PEDs.

Can certain PEDs dramatically increase punching power and/or muscle mass? Of course. But there are side effects that will take away from in ring performance.

Winny is a drug that some choose to take. But as you can see by boxers who have been knocked while on it, the benefits aren't that great.

The shit isn't like Rocky 4.

A boxer using PEDs to increase punching power would be an idiot. What he would be aiming for is the same thing cyclists aim for: greater stamina and endurance.
 

Zeferino

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Let's see

Shane Mosley has one confirmed fight using PEDs. To many of fans, he didn't look very effective but to the judges, he looked effective enough and won the fight against a very game Oscar De La Hoya.
How he looked to us is irrelevent, even if our opinion is a particularly popular one (he didn't look as good as we're used to seeing him but he wasn't exactly sizzling in any jr middleweight fight) but the only opinions that matter are and were the judges for that fight and they say he looked good enough. Now the question is: if he wasn't juiced, would Oscar have won that fight?

Floyd Mayweather wants to take that out of the equation and as fans, all of us should as well. Hell, even if you hated him and loved Manny like he was your dad, you wouldn't want him to have any excuses for losing to Pacquiao in the ring.

Most people thought Shane lost that fight against Oscar including Shane himself. Look at how shocked he is when the decision was announced. Shane's performance sucked. He was juiced and most people think he lost so if he wasn't juiced then we're back to square one. Juiced or not he did not dominate DLH that night or give any type of performance that seemed enhanced.
 

Zeferino

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A boxer using PEDs to increase punching power would be an idiot. What he would be aiming for is the same thing cyclists aim for: greater stamina and endurance.

Most fighters that train right have great stamina and endurance anyway. Micky Ward and Arturo Gatti always had greater stamina and endurance than maybe even Oscar de la Hoya or Zab Judah but there's still no way they could compete with those guys. A lot of this is styles and pacing. If PEDS are really running rampant in boxing and these guys are taking them for stamina and endurance, we should be seeing more guys throwing 100 and 200 punches per round for 12 rounds straight. This isn't happening. There isn't a larger percentage of knockout punchers or speedy boxers when you compare the current situation to the past. Shit, those guys in those old 15 rounders like Ray Mancini would seem to be more performance enhanced than the guys nowadays. Ali vs Frazier. Those were heavyweights fighting with stamina and endurance unheard of in heavyweights today and those dudes were throwing non stop and with power deep into 15 rounds. There is no indication that PEDs are providing any extraordinary benefits to boxers that they don't get under normal circumstances and hard training.
 

gene cisco

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A boxer using PEDs to increase punching power would be an idiot. What he would be aiming for is the same thing cyclists aim for: greater stamina and endurance.

You'd be surprised. Punching power(any little extra pop in the gloves) is the number one thing boxers turn to the shit for, that and leaning out/adding mass. Endurance is last. A lot of smaller boxers want to increase strength/power without jumping up a class. Larger boxers want to make weight while maintaining/increasing strength/power.

This is coming from years and years of having been asked the same shit by boxers and mma guys.


 

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Most people thought Shane lost that fight against Oscar including Shane himself. Look at how shocked he is when the decision was announced. Shane's performance sucked. He was juiced and most people think he lost so if he wasn't juiced then we're back to square one. Juiced or not he did not dominate DLH that night or give any type of performance that seemed enhanced.


The only thing that matters is at least 2 out of 3 judges thought he looked good enough to win. Now all these years later with us knowing exactly what happened, Oscar never got that win back. It goes down historically as Shane Mosley wins.
 
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