Why don't we have a strong BLACK leader(s) to speak for us?

[playahaitian]

Especially in light of recent events...

now more then ever don't we NEED a strong vocal leader for Black People?

Where is the next Martin, Malcolm, Marcus Garvey, Huey etc.

I think Minister Farrakhan could have been after the Million Man March.

It seems we only have Sharpton now on a national stage and Jesse Jackson is losing respect.

The NAACP may never fully recover after the Donald Sterling fiasco.

As disjointed as the Republican party IS there are leaders within it with strong constituents..

Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Riley, Hanniety and the rest have STRONG voices and have influenced change for THEIR groups.

Say what you will but White people (and we have seen Jewish people, Asian, & Hispanics follow suit) unify in times of crisis and importance.

They have strong lobbyists, vote as a block and boycott & protest in a very organized manner.

Even PETA and GLAAD have STRONG groups that have voices that WILL be heard.

It seems even with all the growth of social media, the information and knowledge that most of us are AWARE of

That knowledge isn't been utilized to its fullest.

Where is OUR voice???

 

[Lattimore]

The system effectively mutes us by co-opting our mssg and paying us off, and If that doesn't work... Bullets and brainwashing.

 

[sammyjax]

we have plenty of voices

we don't control the media outlets

the people that do are actively against us

we are stuck with the net for now, gotta make the most outta that shit

 

[samh32]

You want a black leader, start here... Do Hispanics, Asians, or another minority group go around looking for a leader? Don't depend of someone that looks like you to lead you bruh.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

 

[Blu Diablo]

There has always been, and always will be, leaders that speak on behalf of the community.

The real problem is too many people are afraid to add their voice to the conversation.

 

[tallblacknyc]

You want a black leader, start here... Do Hispanics, Asians, or another minority group go around looking for a leader? Don't depend of someone that looks like you to lead you bruh.

lots of truth in this post

if there's homeless people outside ur doorsteps and u got a closet full of clothes dat u don't wear do u need a leader to tell u to take them clothes dat u don't wear and put them to good use and give it to that homeless person..there's actions and words..don't speak juss do..eventually others mite follow

 

[playahaitian]

You want a black leader, start here... Do Hispanics, Asians, or another minority group go around looking for a leader? Don't depend of someone that looks like you to lead you bruh.

of course your right

and if we ALL looked in the mirror and became leaders in our communities then we wouldn't have the issues we have.

Like many I vote both nationally and locally, volunteer, mentor, donate money and time etc.

I am a leader and many on the board are too I am speaking on a NATIONAL level.

we DID have that didn't we?

Remember back in the day the Black church was where we were able to mobilize and vote and create ways to protect and uplift OURSELVES BY OURSELVES...that's gone.

And those other groups?

They DO have leaders and voices who address not only politicians but corporations and media outlets.

 

[GAMETHEORY]

Or perhaps black America is looking for leadership in all the wrong places. Do blacks really need a messiah who is all things to all people and will take us to the promised land? Or should we identify and cultivate leaders using more realistic criteria?

On the otherhand, we find black leadership in unlikely places, including those who do not bear fancy titles, but are in the trenches nevertheless. Consider people such as Shujaa Graham, Nathson Fields and Delbert Tibbs of the organization Witness to Innocence—wrongfully convicted, exonerated death row survivors who are now fighting against a racially unjust death penalty that nearly killed them.

 

[GAMETHEORY]

Another reason we cant have leaders in BGOL... a forum owned by a black man who calls himself self hate names....HEAD NIGGA IN CHARGE and has refused to ban the offensive N word in this forum

Bro there's a very long way to go for blacks....

 

[sammyjax]

the question should be

why don't we have a strong black media outlet that can operate and be successful without the traditional and time honored white subterfuge that happens EVERY time, but that we know about

the answer to almost all the questions like this, if you go far enough cognitively, is

violence. they stop us/everyone with it, ultimately. and the system is such that we can't fight theirs with ours.

rising coon numbers make that shit harder too.

 

[samh32]

You better look for a better choice bruh. Go to the 11:42 mark.

 

[eatcake]

lots of truth in this post

if there's homeless people outside ur doorsteps and u got a closet full of clothes dat u don't wear do u need a leader to tell u to take them clothes dat u don't wear and put them to good use and give it to that homeless person..there's actions and words..don't speak juss do..eventually others mite follow

You hit it dead on the head

 

[supreme_kos]

They don't want to be assassinated..... by bullets or by character assissination....

 

[playahaitian]

the question should be

why don't we have a strong black media outlet that can operate and be successful without the traditional and time honored white subterfuge that happens EVERY time, but that we know about​

the answer to almost all the questions like this, if you go far enough cognitively, is

violence. they stop us/everyone with it, ultimately. and the system is such that we can't fight theirs with ours.

rising coon numbers make that shit harder too.

^^^^^

 

[dagoon121]

Cause we are very spiritual and it not time.
BLACK Folks are still Learning To Love EACH Other
We don't need a Leader just yet

 

[samh32]

of course your right

and if we ALL looked in the mirror and became leaders in our communities then we wouldn't have the issues we have.

Like many I vote both nationally and locally, volunteer, mentor, donate money and time etc.

I am a leader and many on the board are too I am speaking on a NATIONAL level.

we DID have that didn't we?

Remember back in the day the Black church was where we were able to mobilize and vote and create ways to protect and uplift OURSELVES BY OURSELVES...that's gone.

And those other groups?

They DO have leaders and voices who address not only politicians but corporations and media outlets.

I think anyone on a National level will find it difficult to speak on a black agenda that everyone would agree on. We are not a monolithic race of people. This vicious comments here on BGOL against each other shows this every day. Do you think that Marco Rubio would ever be supported by Hispanics from Central America, and Mexico with his current conservative agenda?

 

[pookie]

I am still at the grass roots level right now. The 2 best I have seen was Marcus Garvey and Elijah M. And also Dr. King. Dr. King became more militant during the last years of his life. A change they did not want the people to see.
They knew that out of the poor black males one would rise up and put an end to this suicidal direction we see today. I am breaking all the curses and spells that fell upon the world. If I can overcome the world I can open the door for others to do it. It is the same thing Jesus was doing around 2000 years ago.
The things he did, you may see it all over again. But this time not as a poor man, but a man that has already taken the world back from the enemies of truth. At one time when there was only black people on the face of the earth, every one could do what Jesus did. It was all about a black man being himself, and not drugged or controlled by a white reality. Of course they say today that man cannot do those things. But that is because they could not do them. And they have a need to feel superior, to feel that they are first and that their white skin ordained them to be first. Just like the experiment on mind control and how to infiltrate black organizations in Jonestown. You have a white man saying he is the only hetrosexual in the world, everybody else is gays and lebsians. If they have sex with each other it is just reward for helping the church. Also he taught them I will be your God until you realize that you are God. And saying this to a black man without him realizing what spells is being cased upon him for losing knowledge of himself. Also Jones had a sign over his seat that said "Who ever forgets the past are doomed to repeat it". They did some heavy programming and experimenting down there.
White will have an example of a man to be like, a white man and they are in his image. Rothchild has so much money he can feed, cloth, and house every person in the world if he wants to. But to them the black race are devils. A lot of his money goes into getting rid of us.
Elijah M. was the closet thing to a real man that has been in our image so far. He taught Farrakhan how to be a God. But you can never be greater than the person that sends you unless you are self sent. I am self sent. And the truth of my life and my works are about to finally materalize. Something that they cannot stop.

http://oneblacknation.webs.com/

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[samh32]

lots of truth in this post

if there's homeless people outside ur doorsteps and u got a closet full of clothes dat u don't wear do u need a leader to tell u to take them clothes dat u don't wear and put them to good use and give it to that homeless person..there's actions and words..don't speak juss do..eventually others mite follow

And this is the essence of leadership... "Lead by Example"

 

[HAR125LEM]

We don't need leaders.

We just need to be strong and FOCUSED as a group.
Especially in regards to issues that pertain to US!

And all those Black "Leaders" of the past didn't necessarily see themselves as "leaders". They just took major steps for the times in which they were dealing with. And hoped others would follow suit.

 

[GAMETHEORY]

Which leader speaks for Whites or other cultures? There is no “leader” in the black community who has been given the speakers role. Black people are intelligent enough to speak for ourselves.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

You better look for a better choice bruh. Go to the 11:42 mark.

Yeah. I know about all that.

 

[playahaitian]

I think anyone on a National level will find it difficult to speak on a black agenda that everyone would agree on. We are not a monolithic race of people. This vicious comments here on BGOL against each other shows this every day. Do you think that Marco Rubio would ever be supported by Hispanics from Central America, and Mexico with his current conservative agenda?

you are right...

but those groups aren't either but they are willing to find some sort of consensus when they feel it will benefit the greater whole (or MAINTAIN the status quo)

we will in-fight like crazy on the most trivial matters and also not be activate for the big picture.

We STILL don't vote...

even after President Obama was in office you would think that would encourage us to CONTINUE to use the process learn the rules of the game and play it...but we didn't.

I feel like like we NEED that voice.

We will let these other 'leaders' tell us what sneakers, headphones, belts and liquor to buy?

But we don't have the same to guide us in important socio-economic issues?

 

[GAMETHEORY]

There has always been, and always will be, leaders that speak on behalf of the community.

The real problem is too many people are afraid to add their voice to the conversation.

perhaps the days of a sole leader are behind us and we are becoming the leaders of change.

With the advent of the internet and the social media phenomenon, we have gained a voice like never before which has led to the Jena 6 movement, the Trayvon Martin case, and the cancellation of that god awful baby mama show to name a few, Even the Obama re-election was a grass roots movement. Love him or hate him Obama said we are the change we've been waiting for and he's right. No need to look toward others for things I can do myself.

-peace

 

[GAMETHEORY]

you are right...

but those groups aren't either but they are willing to find some sort of consensus when they feel it will benefit the greater whole (or MAINTAIN the status quo)

we will in-fight like crazy on the most trivial matters and also not be activate for the big picture.

We STILL don't vote...

even after President Obama was in office you would think that would encourage us to CONTINUE to use the process learn the rules of the game and play it...but we didn't.

I feel like like we NEED that voice.

We will let these other 'leaders' tell us what sneakers, headphones, belts and liquor to buy?

But we don't have the same to guide us in important socio-economic issues?

We are the leaders we seek. No other race has so called leaders that profit and make a living off of being a so called leader. Who are the leaders for the Jewish, Latino, Asian communities? They have a collect effort and support each other. They thrive in this country from their collective work, not waiting for some so called leader to guide them to a promise land.

 

[biggboye5000]

Stop looking for and waiting on black leaders or black leadership. It's an automatic recipe for disaster and looking for a charismatic personality.

Jews Asians Italians Irish White Latino Mexican none of these groups are looking for waiting for or asking for a leader. Our progress will have to be leaderless and faceless by necessity. Even the gays don't have a leader or need or want one.

Economic cultural and legal progress is where we have to focus on right now. It has to become a movement a cultural shift and a code. It has to become cool to follow this movement in the hood in the suburbs in the country or in rural areas on social media and just become a popular cultural movement for young and old regardless of religion or other divisive arguments.

This has to be more than a hashtag movement this has to become cool for rappers athletes old heads young heads and whoever. The black family also has to become the focus again. Mentoring has to become adopted since so many black families are broken and no real traditions are being passed down from generation to generation.

Look at the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street. Those are the faceless and nameless examples to follow. No leaders to silence or shut up and kill their progress or their message or momentum.

We can't repeat the 50s and 60s again.

 

[RoadRage]

To be honest, kids today don't want to learn from their elders and many elders want to be kids...
Everyone wants to have a voice, a say so a complaint, but no one wants to do the hard part of actually knowing what the fuck they are talking about..
We need competent leaders not some dumb ass that would perjure himself inadvertently with dumb nonsense..
Its to the point where, when you get someone who knows how to handle himself and speak intelligently, folks start to question how black he is..
Its almost like they want some jack ass to say fuck you, fuck the cops fuck the cac's and fuck the government, were going to burn this bitch down..
Of course if they were to actually do some dumb shit like that, with out a plan and with out means to carry out those threats, that shit would be a shorter conflict than the U.S. vs Grenada in 83.. Sure its cool to pop off in the safety and comfort in your own home, but when lives are at stake, lets see how cool that shit looks..
Instead, we need real leaders, non of that smiley ass coon shit either, instead someone smart, witty, sharp thinking, able to think outside the box, able to use emotions and turn it into energy used to produce positive change. ONe that looks for solutions for problems, not just making empty threats or one that goes around regurgitating what the problem is, over and over again.. One that is able to point finger, but not only at the bad, but also what works, this way we can have a reference on how things should be like..
But until then, I guess we will stay stuck on fuck them CAC's, I can't wait till the revolution that no one is planning on to pop off, when we can finally, get rid of all the cops, make weed legal, fuck white women who refuse to fuck us now, and we would be the ones with the money..
Notice there is no mention on how money would be worth anything , with out production of goods, something they never quite explain in their wet dream...
Besides folks don't even know or care to find out what the cause really is, or who their enemy is, they only use over general terms like CAC's, the Government and the Cops..... In reality, if their goal is to A- Kill every white person on the face of the earth, then have large metropolis city with out any type of police force (sure you can do that shit in small villages with a few thousand people, but name one city run with out cops that number in the millions), all of this with out some form of Government (like who is going to regulate laws, things like sanitation, road and rails, airline regulation, food and drug regulation, health, and education?)..
This is just scratching the surface, question most people on how a government should be run, and the looks you'll get is strait Bambi!
One black leader I tip my hat to is Dr. Umar Johnson, a visionary, and someone who is trying to build a realistic future for our children....

 

[ShortyCumStain]

I'm of da mindset that those who feel they're incapable of enacting action seek salvation via a leader. Look inwardly for a leader. It starts w/you.

 

[RoadRage]

I'm of da mindset that those who feel they're incapable of enacting action seek salvation via a leader. Look inwardly for a leader. It starts w/you.

But you must know what you are fighting for and how to get these things...
Cause today, we are still on that 1960's bullshit, up here waiting for Jesus, some imaginary revolution (at least back then they did seek Soviet backing, while today the suppliers of what cheap garbage guns we have are the very same people we are trying to take down and most of our joints are from the 60's) or we are on that march bullshit... ONe thing from the 60's we wont even touch, that is boycotting and sit outs, Oh no we love us some smart phones, new Jordans, and a fresh weave on our females heads!!!!
How can we all be leaders when I can break down 90% of the black youth, proving they don't even know what they want and what we are fighting for...

 

[RoadRage]

To be fair, let me tell you what I am fighting for....... I am fighting for our children and the future of our race, to have a fighting chance in the world of tomorrow...
Make no mistake about it and do the math.....There is no way things will remain the same with in the next 15 years... Jobs are being lost, and will never come back... The government can't bring them back, that would be like them trying to bring back horse shoe makers, with out getting rid of the cars we so love..
People often debate and question how many people can the earth support, the answer in tomorrows world is, as many jobs and they can be employed in..
With in 15 virtually all the entry level jobs would be gone, even the military is going to go on the bell curve, where only the brightest would be chosen, this wouldn't be much of a problem if we were being prepared for the big change, but on the contrary, we are being dumb down, intentionally and as the jobs get more technical, competitive and sparse, we are getting weaker as a race, dumber, and less political..
The set up for genocide is right there..
My question independent black leaders, what are your so called collected plans to do anything about it?

 

[Blu Diablo]

perhaps the days of a sole leader are behind us and we are becoming the leaders of change.

With the advent of the internet and the social media phenomenon, we have gained a voice like never before which has led to the Jena 6 movement, the Trayvon Martin case, and the cancellation of that god awful baby mama show to name a few, Even the Obama re-election was a grass roots movement. Love him or hate him Obama said we are the change we've been waiting for and he's right. No need to look toward others for things I can do myself.

-peace

To be honest, there has rarely, if ever, been a period where we had a sole leader.

Some names are remembered more than others but we were most effective when we took a multifaceted approach.

King and others took the non-violent approach, Malcolm and others preached by any means necessary, Huey said that we should arm ourselves against brutal police and meet force with force where necessary.

We romanticize about the past so much that we forget that each of those facets were necessary to bring about change. No one would have taken King seriously if there was no threat of actions by the others, whites wouldn't have had a problem with wide scale violence against Malcolm and others but King challenged them from a moral standpoint.

As I've said in other threads, all actions and voices are necessary and right when fighting for justice.

 

[RoadRage]

To be honest, there has rarely, if ever, been a period where we had a sole leader.

Some names are remembered more than others but we were most effective when we took a multifaceted approach.

King and others took the non-violent approach, Malcolm and others preached by any means necessary, Huey said that we should arm ourselves against brutal police and meet force with force where necessary.

We romanticize about the past so much that we forget that each of those facets were necessary to bring about change. No one would have taken King seriously if there was no threat of actions by the others, whites wouldn't have had a problem with wide scale violence against Malcolm and others but King challenged them from a moral standpoint.

As I've said in other threads, all actions and voices are necessary and right when fighting for justice.

We are the only group on the face of the earth that applaud our disenfranchisement wearing it like a badge of honor..

 

[RoadRage]

The first thing we have to do, is stop following behind white folks here, and doing shit the way they do things... Number one the white folks that we see and talk to, are most likely just as dumb if not dumber than us, this is what this country does, dumb mother fucker down, so we can be sheeple slaves..
What we need to do is look at cultures around the world, how many of you guys even been exposed to other country cultures?
I've been to many different types, and look how the men are treated, how the women and children are, how they place education before everything, as opposed to the american way of fun, first 2nd and 3rd..

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

We don't need one.

We need 20 or 30 willing to dedicate their lives to the cause

and they need back up from us dedicating our lanes to the cause.

Everybody shoulder some of the load instead of trying to put it on 1 person.

Too many people asleep at this point because they got it good so they're not trying to fuck that up.

The ones that got it good are the ones that could actually fund and help the ones who don't have it good, pulling them up
but
in the dog eat dog society that's just not the way things are shaping up.

1st step would be a national news network. One that is all black or minority. All owned, by black or minority to report the news without the propaganda viewpoint that we currently see

After that we will be informed to what's really going on.

Next step is not letting the coons realign with us. Once you step over the line that's it. No welcome home.

Next is local levels, everyone has to find out what they can do to help and do it. Not everyone can do everything or give all of their time but if everyone does something small it becomes big

We don't really need 1 leader

we need belief

and people willing to fight for that belief on every level.

 

[woodchuck]

Because nobody wants to follow. Cats are so afraid of the next brother outshining them, that no one wants to be led. Cats would rather hate than follow. Also, whomever decides to "lead" better know what they're doing. It's like a gaggle of geese. There is no "lead goose", they follow the one that knows where its going.