BTW do you think obesity numbers are there to make us look bad, if so why are so many of us overweight? Anyone with eyes can see this for yourself, and there is not bullshitting your way out of that.
Why are there still homeless people while so many buildings are empty?
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I very much appreciate that statistic and your attempt to back it up. It was Amnesty International.
2012:
Vacant Houses Outnumber Homeless People in U.S.
There are more than five times as many vacant homes in the US as there are homeless people, according to Amnesty International USA Since 2007, banks have shuttered about 8 million American houses, almost doubling the previous number, while 35 million homeless shiver in the coldSince 2007, banks...
www.truthdig.com
2015:
Empty Homes Outnumber The Homeless 6 To 1, So Why Not Give Them Homes?
Empty Homes Outnumber The Homeless 6 To 1, So Why Not Give Them Homes?
www.mintpressnews.com
More:
Housing: It's a Wonderful Right
Housing is a human right. Yet 3.5 million people in the U.S. are homeless and every day banks foreclose on more than 10,000 mortgages and order evictions of those residing in foreclosed homes.
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The homeless need shelter one way or they other. That's a fact.
But it's not just money or lack of brick and mortar that states have to contend with.
My Sister worked with homeless services in NYC for many years.
She says there are so many KINDS of homeless people and that the state doesn't have time to accommodate the 'categories':
Some are violent criminals who don't have anybody that really fucks with them.
Some are runaways from out-of-town.
Some are drug addicts and just chase all night/sleep it off wherever all day.
Most are mentally ill.
States don't give a fuck about trying to figure all that shit out. They just throw them all together in the same places.
And shelters be so wild and nasty, that most homeless people don't want to go there.
Nobody with decision-making power wants to lose their position by appearing to actually care. SMH
But it's not just money or lack of brick and mortar that states have to contend with.
My Sister worked with homeless services in NYC for many years.
She says there are so many KINDS of homeless people and that the state doesn't have time to accommodate the 'categories':
Some are violent criminals who don't have anybody that really fucks with them.
Some are runaways from out-of-town.
Some are drug addicts and just chase all night/sleep it off wherever all day.
Most are mentally ill.
States don't give a fuck about trying to figure all that shit out. They just throw them all together in the same places.
And shelters be so wild and nasty, that most homeless people don't want to go there.
Nobody with decision-making power wants to lose their position by appearing to actually care. SMH
If you owned a vacant building would you let some homeless bums live there?
This is not an individual-level issue.
The way we divide land is wrong. As a country and as a planet. There are too many empty buildings, too much unused city land, too much land held by disproportionately rich people.
We have the land. There should be a home available to every person in this country who wants one.
You know the government has long had the ability to commandeer land, correct? (It not, google "eminent domain.")
If you want to take issue with that, fine. But it has happened for rich people countless times.
So it being done to house homeless people would be a major upgrade.
Sleeping on the fucking cold street should not be a punishment for addiction!!!!!!!
We have the money. Fuck unnecessary punishment that does no good for anybody. Housing for all.
Children aren't a separate story, they are a part of the story.
On a Single Night in January 2019, 567,715 people – about 17 of every 10,000 people in the United States – were experiencing homelessness across the United States. About one in three (30% or 171,670) people experienced homelessness as part of a family with at least one adult and one child under 18 years of age. Less than one percent (4,101 people) were in households composed of one or more children without an adult present.
This is the BULLSHIT we allow to persist in America. And more people want to focus on the drunks than on the kids and young people.
And the older ones, and the drunks? Many of them can be helped. The solution is not to leave them to sleep outside or just die during a pandemic.
The survey is fine. I voted A. Most Cs just don't want to admit it.
People are more likely to oppose spending to help the homeless or a fast food employee being paid $15 an hour than they are $800 billion on defense or a trillion dollar tax cut for the rich. It's just myopic, class-blind humans choosing to be crabs when we should be working together.
"maybe instead of focussing on housing the homeless, we should be trying to help stabilize hard working-class families' rent and mortgages as well as intensifying and encouraging good grades by giving the hard-working kids discounts on cars, clothes and other rewards."
We can support both! They spend trillions on the rich, they just print money when they have to, we don't have to choose!
"I am for rewarding the youth for doing things that prevent homelessness rather than waste your time trying to help them after they've destroyed their lives"
Malcolm X was a prisoner returning to society at age 27. Don't be so quick to write everybody off as irredeemable.
"It doesn't do any good to complain, about it because it just doesn't."
Advocating isn't complaining. And all talk is not a waste because people have to understand what side we are on before we can fight the other.
"All we can do is take care of ourselves, our families, loved ones, etc..."
I care about community.
Here is the problem you are overlooking, if you feed the homeless and give them homes, chances are they will have more children, take more drugs, and the problem will replicate itself twice as worse. My solution is to get to them before they become homeless, by rewarding them and encouraging good behavior rather than giving the reckless a safety net to encourage more reckless behavior.People are more likely to oppose spending to help the homeless or a fast food employee being paid $15 an hour than they are $800 billion on defense or a trillion dollar tax cut for the rich. It's just myopic, class-blind humans choosing to be crabs when we should be working together.
"maybe instead of focussing on housing the homeless, we should be trying to help stabilize hard working-class families' rent and mortgages as well as intensifying and encouraging good grades by giving the hard-working kids discounts on cars, clothes and other rewards."
We can support both! They spend trillions on the rich, they just print money when they have to, we don't have to choose!
"I am for rewarding the youth for doing things that prevent homelessness rather than waste your time trying to help them after they've destroyed their lives"
Malcolm X was a prisoner returning to society at age 27. Don't be so quick to write everybody off as irredeemable.
"It doesn't do any good to complain, about it because it just doesn't."
Advocating isn't complaining. And all talk is not a waste because people have to understand what side we are on before we can fight the other.
"All we can do is take care of ourselves, our families, loved ones, etc..."
I care about community.
It's great to care for people, but the best way to care for them is to correct the behavior that made them homeless in the first place, if not all you are doing is making them dependant on a system and when they start multiplying then it becomes cyclical and worse and worse each passing generation.
Now if you were to give the homeless men vasectomies while tieing the tubes of the females, then at least you can make it a one and done, but nobody is suggesting that.
Bruh,, I asked what you thought. You can't speak or think for yourself??
I formulate conclusions based off of certified information.
Because in America, we are a nation of consumers, users and abusers. At the very least, common sense dictates we should respect favors bestowed on us, but no, even steady income earning renters will fuck up shit that ain't theirs. You can't even trust the homeless to respect restaurant toilets. They don't respect providers. Some of the panhandlers mistake givers for suckers despite their situation. Bruh, in some cases, you can't even break bread to bring one soul back on their feet. If I encountered a young man not strung out, I would help but a stubborn homeless person is too far gone. 
OP couch is already occupied.
I have a cousin that's been on that shit for 30 years. He had a stroke and is layed up in hospital. He's going to be 55 this year. Abandoned his wife and kids to use drugs. I love him, but how long do you keep supporting a junkie? 55 years old and maybe spent 2-3 years as an actual tax paying adult?
Sleeping on the fucking cold street should not be a punishment for addiction!!!!!!!
We have the money. Fuck unnecessary punishment that does no good for anybody. Housing for all.
Why the fuck should I work if the government will keep a roof over my head and feed me? It's not sustainable and so many people would game the system and lay up, and I'm not talking about black folks. Do you want your tax dollars going to some meth headed cac's? Foh
Sound like a hero to me
Well, he had a stroke is stuck in the hospital with Covid patients and is scared and alone. Since he's been in and out of jail since the first Bush administration he doesn't know how to work facetime etc. But hey, free food and lodging.
Thats why over population is a myth, how could the world be over populated with as op pointed out, all these abandoned buildings
annnnnnnnnnd all the fuckin food we waste.... there is literally too much food..
overpopulation is just the super elite saying its too many people for them to control..
annnnnnnnnnd all the fuckin food we waste.... there is literally too much food..
overpopulation is just the super elite saying its too many people for them to control..
Right on!!! The numbers they put out, have been tweaked to benefit the corporation!! This corporation has painted the homeless and working poor in a bad light!! They have done this over time. People will look at the homeless and poor sideways.. But will bow-down to these billionaires CEO like gods. And these mothafuckas get 10 -20 billion dollars in corporate welfare and the people don't say shit about it..
How do you think like this? You don’t see the presidents kids and get sick? You don’t look at Paris Hilton and get sick?
I’m saying your perspective on reality sucks.
"A photo appeared the other day of a parking lot in Las Vegas where they [the homeless] had been put in quarantine. And the hotels were empty. But the homeless cannot go to a hotel," the Pope said.
"This is the moment to see the poor," he said, adding that society often treats those in need as "rescued animals."
The Pope also warned against the rise of populist politicians -- who he said are giving speeches reminiscent of Hitler in 1933 -- and others who are focusing solely on the economy. He said he was worried by the "hypocrisy of certain political personalities who speak of facing up to the crisis, of the problem of hunger in the world, but who in the meantime manufacture weapons."
www.cnn.com
"This is the moment to see the poor," he said, adding that society often treats those in need as "rescued animals."
The Pope also warned against the rise of populist politicians -- who he said are giving speeches reminiscent of Hitler in 1933 -- and others who are focusing solely on the economy. He said he was worried by the "hypocrisy of certain political personalities who speak of facing up to the crisis, of the problem of hunger in the world, but who in the meantime manufacture weapons."
Pope says coronavirus pandemic could be nature's response to climate crisis | CNN
Pope Francis has said the coronavirus pandemic is one of "nature's responses" to humans ignoring the current ecological crisis.
I love your enthusiasm but I have absolutely no fear that you'll get your wish, "A". Advocate all you want, but humans just aren't like that. Individually many are, but no one person can do it and collectively there will always be enough that oppose it and play spoilers. But good luck. I'd honestly like it to move a little more in the direction you want.People are more likely to oppose spending to help the homeless or a fast food employee being paid $15 an hour than they are $800 billion on defense or a trillion dollar tax cut for the rich. It's just myopic, class-blind humans choosing to be crabs when we should be working together.
"maybe instead of focussing on housing the homeless, we should be trying to help stabilize hard working-class families' rent and mortgages as well as intensifying and encouraging good grades by giving the hard-working kids discounts on cars, clothes and other rewards."
We can support both! They spend trillions on the rich, they just print money when they have to, we don't have to choose!
"I am for rewarding the youth for doing things that prevent homelessness rather than waste your time trying to help them after they've destroyed their lives"
Malcolm X was a prisoner returning to society at age 27. Don't be so quick to write everybody off as irredeemable.
"It doesn't do any good to complain, about it because it just doesn't."
Advocating isn't complaining. And all talk is not a waste because people have to understand what side we are on before we can fight the other.
"All we can do is take care of ourselves, our families, loved ones, etc..."
I care about community.
Sure you do!! Whatever ur doctor, nurse, corporate leaders or controlled media says.. You repeat the official narrative!!! That's cool.. Your indoctrinated by the system!! No need in being ashamed, you are what you are..
You assume I get my information from only the media. That's another thing I don't do is assume, you should try it sometime!
Although it would be great if some owners donated space to house the homeless, it's not something I would expect anyone to do. That's your property, and doing that could cost you in terms of damage done to the property, and with the way tenants rights are in some states, if you wanted to use the building at some point, could you just say ok people....its been real, but you gotta leave now...?
Now leftover food from stores/restaurants....there should be a law or some tax deductions that make it worthwhile for food to go to shelters or organizations that hat will distribute it instead of going into the garbage. That wouldn't hurt the businesses at all.
Shit, if you're in Jersey, you're probably familiar with Quick Check stores... well, they throw stuff away every few hours, not days...so shit that is still absolutely in good condition that they just cooked/made that morning is thrown out that afternoon.
Now leftover food from stores/restaurants....there should be a law or some tax deductions that make it worthwhile for food to go to shelters or organizations that hat will distribute it instead of going into the garbage. That wouldn't hurt the businesses at all.
Shit, if you're in Jersey, you're probably familiar with Quick Check stores... well, they throw stuff away every few hours, not days...so shit that is still absolutely in good condition that they just cooked/made that morning is thrown out that afternoon.
In the real world, the more productive a nation is the more riches they have using that money to prompt counterproductive will eventually cause a nation to lose its wealth and in the long run not be sustainable.
Instead, we must look for viable ways to increase the productivity in all of our citizens this will, in time this will turn to greater wealth and less need to spend propping up the less productive. With the added money we will be able to do more for the truly unfortunate and people who have fallen on rough times due to no fault of their own.
Instead, we must look for viable ways to increase the productivity in all of our citizens this will, in time this will turn to greater wealth and less need to spend propping up the less productive. With the added money we will be able to do more for the truly unfortunate and people who have fallen on rough times due to no fault of their own.
I'm with you, 200+ yrs of nothing but war.. Pure madness, pay for sum other corporations to get rich, rich, rich!!!
Haha, you start off saying I assume.. Then you say you don't assume!! Your funny!!
Some choose to be homeless,no matter what you do for them they will return to the streets and a lot of it has to do with mental illness,just bad fucking luck and being ostracized...people are cruel and heartless in a worse way.
Do you think he wants to be homeless,he did nothing and look...and he has no hate in his heart,basketball star in high school,hard worker,was raised right.
Do you think he wants to be homeless,he did nothing and look...and he has no hate in his heart,basketball star in high school,hard worker,was raised right.
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