Who should play the next Joker in future Batman/Dark Knight movies?

[geechiedan]

excellent points....but how would you do Mr. freeze...some characters will be difficult to create w/o straying away from the reality and darkess of the movie....Freeze gun...and signature helmet....i don't know fam....

Cat woman i agree with how you feel....and again great point...RIDDLER will need some good ass writers....cuz his chracter is IMO difficult to pull off.....Jim owned his chracter tho....

Penquin good idea....

Madhatter nah 2 complex....Killer croc.. maybe but can't be a sole villian...the ventriliquist & scarface (sp?)...has to be a damn good story....Poison Ivy..nah...

what about Robin a a sidekick...yay or nah?

they should show him in the next movie as a adopted kid...no crime fighting....

a friend of mine came up with a great angle for Robin...

He's actually an undercover cop working a "jumpstreet" string (busting highschool drug dealers...hes young looking but is like 25) He's a great HONEST cop..the ONLY one gordon trusts somewhere along the line the young cop helps batman with a bust and does such a good job of it he strikes up a friendship and becomes his assistant..Robin is born..

 

[bong!]

 

[malaki]

I know Depp could pull it off but if you think about Crispin Glover's crazy whiteboy swag he's PERFECT to pick up where Heath left off:

 

[geechiedan]

reading is fundamental

 

[geechiedan]

danial day lewis???

how about

 

[Blunt]

You won't see a new "Joker" for another 20 years. So why bother with a contemporary casting choice? The actor who'll play the role in the future is probably only around 10 years old now.

 

[shat11]

No One.

 

[Blunt]

Johnny Depp would be the best since he has the skills and looks the most reminescent of Heath.

Johnny Depp is a special kind of lead actor who isn't about to play second fiddle to another actor's still-fresh performance, especially at his advanced age. He's got loads of his own shit to do.

What's wrong with these Dark Knight fanatics? Leave it alone. Ain't nothin' happen' with this series again for years, and they aren't gonna repeat themselves with the same villain.

Obviously, virtually ANY major, talented actor of a certain age could play the role. The possibilities are endless. But it's just a fantasy.

 

[P03t]

Johnny Depp is a special kind of lead actor who isn't about to play second fiddle to another actor's still-fresh performance, especially at his advanced age. He's got loads of his own shit to do.

What's wrong with these Dark Knight fanatics? Leave it alone. Ain't nothin' happen' with this series again for years, and they aren't gonna repeat themselves with the same villain.

Obviously, virtually ANY major, talented actor of a certain age could play the role. The possibilities are endless. But it's just a fantasy.

its a movie that we grown men read as a kid...they threw a new spin on it...the movie was hot and we want to see where it will go from here since heath passed, he was the best JOKER IMO....

why you hating son....we all know its fantasy...i really know now why cats on here hate your ass.....

 

[geechiedan]

You won't see a new "Joker" for another 20 years. So why bother with a contemporary casting choice? The actor who'll play the role in the future is probably only around 10 years old now.

your going by how the first series went..which has nothing to do with this one..

1. the joker died in the first batman movie..so they apparently had no intention of bringing the character back..

2. by the FOURTH flick it was clear to see that the movie formula had crapped out and was no longer viable.

3. Joker DIDN'T die in this flick and its clear to see that had ledger not croaked he'd be back to play the part sometime in the near future maybe the 4th or 5th movie down the line.

So its completely plausible to think that someone in this generation of actors could play the role relatively soon.

 

[Blunt]

your going by how the first series went..which has nothing to do with this one...

I'm going by common sense (and movie knowledge).

3. Joker DIDN'T die in this flick and its clear to see that had ledger not croaked he'd be back to play the part sometime in the near future maybe the 4th or 5th movie down the line.

Who sez there's gonna be a 4th or 5th flick, or when that would be? And who says the "Joker" story has to continue., This is about movies, not comic books/graphic novels.

So its completely plausible to think that someone in this generation of actors could play the role relatively soon.

Check back when they actually announce that they're gonna re-cast "The Joker" within the next 10 years. Otherwise keep the fantasy to yourself.

There's no logical reason to do it, and there's no sane actor of STATURE (and expense) who would take on the role without a considerable amount of time passing (if even then). On the other hand, if you think they might include some foggy images of a scrub actor playing the "Joker" in the background of a new Dark Knight feature that's not about him, then fine. No identifiable star is gonna take that role. It would be suicide (and a big distraction for the filmmakers).

 

[geechiedan]

I'm going by common sense (and movie knowledge).

wow..you read the aintitcool website too

Who sez there's gonna be a 4th or 5th flick, or when that would be? And who says the "Joker" story has to continue., This is about movies, not comic books/graphic novels.

there's clearly going to be a third movie and chances are thats going to be a hit as well.. the first batman series went 4 movies (even changing the lead actor with every flick after number 2) theres no reason to believe that this one won't do at least as many.

Check back when they actually announce that they're gonna re-cast "The Joker" within the next 10 years. Otherwise keep the fantasy to yourself.

I'd be willing to bet that the joker reappears by the fifth installment..

 

[Blunt]

its a movie that we grown men read as a kid...they threw a new spin on it...the movie was hot and we want to see where it will go from here since heath passed, he was the best JOKER IMO....

So why do you want another "Joker" 30 minutes later like the character's Chinese food? Say bye-bye.

why you hating son....we all know its fantasy...i really know now why cats on here hate your ass.....

The re-casting of the part is the fantasy. It's not happening. I don't mind being hated-on by idiots and fools. It would be scary if I was on their wavelength. Common sense and legit knowledge mean nothing to them.

 

[Blunt]

wow..you read the aintitcool website too

Not since around 2001.

there's clearly going to be a third movie and chances are thats going to be a hit as well.. the first batman series went 4 movies (even changing the lead actor with every flick after number 2) theres no reason to believe that this one won't do at least as many.

Why don't you wait to see what the 3rd's about before you plan the rest? Geeks, damn.

I'd be willing to bet that the joker reappears by the fifth installment..

In 2015.

 

[Blunt]

If they're still celebrating over at Warner Bros., though, the party won't last forever. In other words, it's time to get cracking on an encore. But a Dark Knight sequel may not be as easy as it sounds. Yes, there are decades' worth of story lines and subplots from the DC comics to mine and countless villains left for the Caped Crusader to tangle with. Nolan, however, hasn't signed on for a third installment yet. ''Obviously a lot of it is about Chris Nolan and his desire to make a third movie,'' says Jeff Robinov, president of Warner Bros. Pictures Group. ''I know he's thinking about it, and our hope is that he'll find something that excites him creatively.'

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213067_20213068_20214587,00.html

 

[geechiedan]

If they're still celebrating over at Warner Bros., though, the party won't last forever. In other words, it's time to get cracking on an encore. But a Dark Knight sequel may not be as easy as it sounds. Yes, there are decades' worth of story lines and subplots from the DC comics to mine and countless villains left for the Caped Crusader to tangle with. Nolan, however, hasn't signed on for a third installment yet. ''Obviously a lot of it is about Chris Nolan and his desire to make a third movie,'' says Jeff Robinov, president of Warner Bros. Pictures Group. ''I know he's thinking about it, and our hope is that he'll find something that excites him creatively.'

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so what..nolan doesn't own the characters...you do know they were making successful batman films BEFORE chris nolan right ask tim burton..

if the third movie proves a blockbuster (and it will) there will definitely be a fourth movie with or without chris nolan.. there are a few other directors who could fill that slot and keep the dark/noir tone of the flicks.. bryan singer, Guillermo del Toro, Jon Favreau... and theyre proven hitmakers too..

you guys keep forgetting..this isn't art its hollywood and as long as it churns a profit its viable..

if you're so knowledgable about movies then you should know the drill..

The third movie will hit..chris nolan will decline making a fourth one..the studio will say "fuck that..this shit is a goldmine who can we get to replace him.." they'll get either someone I named or someone who's good I haven't..the fanboys (whom you mock) will say "fuck that..without nolan the film is garbage".. the previews will "leak" six months before the film drops..Fanboys will literally CREAM themselves over it (quickly forgetting their loyalty to chris nolan)...the movie will hit hundreds of millions will be made on opening day..the studio will be happy as pig in shit, fanboys will orgasm in the aisles and life goes on..

now tell me if I missed anything

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

so what..nolan doesn't own the characters...you do know they were making successful batman films BEFORE chris nolan right ask tim burton..

if the third movie proves a blockbuster (and it will) there will definitely be a fourth movie with or without chris nolan.. there are a few other directors who could fill that slot and keep the dark/noir tone of the flicks.. bryan singer, Guillermo del Toro, Jon Favreau... and theyre proven hitmakers too..

you guys keep forgetting..this isn't art its hollywood and as long as it churns a profit its viable..

if you're so knowledgable about movies then you should know the drill..

The third movie will hit..chris nolan will decline making a fourth one..the studio will say "fuck that..this shit is a goldmine who can we get to replace him.." they'll get either someone I named or someone who's good I haven't..the fanboys (whom you mock) will say "fuck that..without nolan the film is garbage".. the previews will "leak" six months before the film drops..Fanboys will literally CREAM themselves over it (quickly forgetting their loyalty to chris nolan)...the movie will hit hundreds of millions will be made on opening day..the studio will be happy as pig in shit, fanboys will orgasm in the aisles and life goes on..

now tell me if I missed anything

imagine the reaction if either brett ratner or paul w.s. anderson were announced as director of the next film

 

[the flash]

that guy right there

 

[LSN]

Maybe Morris Chestnut...

 

[chrislee]

Joseph Gordon-Levitt. He even looks a little like Heath, but only after the next film.

If its some DK Returns future film with a 50 year old Batman, I would go with Daniel Day Lewis

I chose Johnny Depp, but the resemblance is uncanny. It won't matter since he'll be wearing makeup though. They really don't need to use the Joker again untill part 4. Have Gordon tell Batman that he has broken out of Arkham at the end of the next film to set up the premise for part four.

 

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Javier Bardem

 

[cbm_redux]

how about

DDL is too old to play the Joker in this Batman franchise. However, Leo would put his put in the roles figurative ass.

 

[cbm_redux]

Who sez there's gonna be a 4th or 5th flick, or when that would be? And who says the "Joker" story has to continue., This is about movies, not comic books/graphic novels.

This franchise has made a ton of money and they're only on the third movie. It is customary for viable Superhero franchises to have four installments.

As to why I believe the Ledger Joker storyline would have continued, they Joker character overemphasized that his struggle with Batman was going to be ongoing. He fairly beat the audience over the head with that as an excuse of why he would never kill Batman.

 

[cbm_redux]

I've changed my mind...

 

[TimRock]

how about

DDL is too old to play the Joker in this Batman franchise. However, Leo would put his put in the roles figurative ass.

i agree with this. Him or Depp. But i dont think there will be another Joker anytime soon.

 

[LAZARUS216]

Topher Grace

 

[Blunt]

This franchise has made a ton of money and they're only on the third movie. It is customary for viable Superhero franchises to have four installments.

The third film isn't even being planned yet. Director Christopher Nolan isn't signed (he had a two film deal). There's no script and no ideas.

As to why I believe the Ledger Joker storyline would have continued, they Joker character overemphasized that his struggle with Batman was going to be ongoing. He fairly beat the audience over the head with that as an excuse of why he would never kill Batman.

They're gonna do other characters. The brief movie series isn't the comic book series. The movie audience is DIFFERENT from the comic book audience.

 

[geechiedan]

The third film isn't even being planned yet. Director Christopher Nolan isn't signed (he had a two film deal). There's no script and no ideas.

oh i'm sure there are scripts...theres just not something everyone agrees with yet..but it will happen.

They're gonna do other characters. The brief movie series isn't the comic book series. The movie audience is DIFFERENT from the comic book audience.

No doubt they will do other characters..i wasn't talking about the joker returning in the next movie...

And I don't think it will take that long between films anymore...

Its only been 8 years between Batman and Robin (1997) and Batman Begins (2005) and while its been 19 years since we last saw the joker IMO the reason for the gaps is the initial Tim Burton Batman film was the FIRST time anyone had seen a live action theatrical treatment of the Batman story since the Adam West campy shows...I think they had a bit of difficulty trying to figure out what tone to treat the movie with since all anyone knew at that time was Adam Wests Batman and Cesar Romero's Joker.

Tim Burtons natural style of storytelling is dark and weird already so its no surprise the movie would be the same way...BUT when they handed it over to Joel Schumacher he tried to stay true to the characters core as told in the comics which didn't jibe real well with the dark tone that Burton established. So each successive movie became a throwback to the campy era which turned people off.

Also Burton apparently had no intention of keeping the Joker around as he killed him off in the first movie...chris nolan didn't so its a logical assumption that he intends for that character to return sooner than 20 years from now.

And now since the "reboot" Chris Nolan reestablished the noir tone and with heath ledgers take on the joker character (which is ironically more serious and gritty than nicholsons portrayal) if the third movie (which there will be) continues with the same tone and much more serious/gritty tweaks on the next villain they will establish that THIS is how you treat Batman stories..this is the formula and as long as no one deviates from that formula then there's no reason to wait 20 years for the next series or return of the joker.

 

[geechiedan]

i agree with this. Him or Depp. But i dont think there will be another Joker anytime soon.

I could see the joker returning in the 5th movie...

Hollywood usually churns out sequels in a series about every 2-3years or so..

Batman 1989
Batman Returns 1992
Batman Forever 1995
Batman and Robin 1997

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005)
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007)
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (2008)

Police Academy (1984)
Police Academy 2: Their First Assignment (1985)
Police Academy 3: Back in Training (1986)
Police Academy 4: Citizens on Patrol (1987)
Police Academy 5: Assignment: Miami Beach (1988)
Police Academy 6: City Under Siege (1989)
Police Academy: Mission to Moscow (1994)

so if the pattern holds true..then its possible to see:

Batman Begins 2005
The Dark Knight 2008
Batman 3 2010
Batman 4 2012
Batman 5 2014 (joker returns in 6 years)

 

[Blunt]

oh i'm sure there are scripts ...

Apparently not, according to Warner Bros.

No doubt they will do other characters..i wasn't talking about the joker returning in the next movie...

Well they're only doing one at a time, especially with this director (who has plenty of other things to do) and this star, who only has a deal for one more film.

Also Burton apparently had no intention of keeping the Joker around as he killed him off in the first movie...chris nolan didn't so its a logical assumption that he intends for that character to return sooner than 20 years from now.

No, it's only a "logical assumption" that he didn't expect his actor to die.

And now since the "reboot" Chris Nolan reestablished the noir tone and with heath ledgers take on the joker character (which is ironically more serious and gritty than nicholsons portrayal) if the third movie (which there will be) continues with the same tone and much more serious/gritty tweaks on the next villain they will establish that THIS is how you treat Batman stories..this is the formula and as long as no one deviates from that formula then there's no reason to wait 20 years for the next series or return of the joker.

WTF??? There's NO third film even close to production yet, so you don't know what the tone will be. Nolan isn't a "formula" director and there's no telling where he might want to go in order to top this film, if he even wants to continue.

This film cost over $200M (including promotion) and had a dead male heartthrob co-star (who brought in a rare crowd of females), which will likely make it the all-time top grosser in the series. The next will almost inevitably be a letdown. There's no reason to believe that this series will just continue on and on at the same pace. Superhero burnout is already near.

 

[KLEPTO]

 

[praetorian]

I just seen the movie!!! I can't see anyone touching Heath's Joker!!! It was a brilliant performance!!! The only one who could possibly compare ia Anthony Hopkins but sadly he is too old! In fact this movie is an all time classic none of the other Batmans can compare nor can the other Joker!

 

[geechiedan]

Apparently not, according to Warner Bros.

there are piles of spec scripts on the subject its not a matter of creating one from scratch unless chris nolan wants to do that..otherwise its just a matter of picking a good story or a good writer who can bang out a great tale.

Well they're only doing one at a time, especially with this director (who has plenty of other things to do) and this star, who only has a deal for one more film.

thats funny since Batman Begins had two villains (ras al ghul and scarecrow) and the Dark Knight had two villains (joker and two face)..

No, it's only a "logical assumption" that he didn't expect his actor to die.

Ledger didn't own the joker (despite what fanboys believe) he did a great take but nolan clearly left room for the character to return at some point rather kill him off like burton did.

WTF??? There's NO third film even close to production yet, so you don't know what the tone will be. Nolan isn't a "formula" director and there's no telling where he might want to go in order to top this film, if he even wants to continue.

chris nolans filmography suggests that hes eclectic but the tone and look of this series so far is clearly uniform..if nolan went away from that uniformity to top the last film it would be a mistake.

This film cost over $200M (including promotion) and had a dead male heartthrob co-star (who brought in a rare crowd of females), which will likely make it the all-time top grosser in the series. The next will almost inevitably be a letdown. There's no reason to believe that this series will just continue on and on at the same pace. Superhero burnout is already near.

riiiight...because hollywood NEVER beats a dead horse

superhero burnout?? Iron Man (2008)
The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Iron Man 2 (2010)
Thor (2010)
Captain America (2011)
Avengers (2011)

and thats just from Marvel...as long as money can be made hollywood will keep churning them out..

 

[Elemental]

Come on people......

 

[Black Broadway Legend]

Okay:

I don't know if it's already been said in one of the dozen or so other Dark Knight threads, but Anthony Michael Hall's reporter is obviously The Riddler. He's too recognizable and had too much screen time to not play some sort of role in the third installment.

I don't like any of the choices for the next Joker. Assuming, for the sake of discussion, that there will be one. Those guys are all way too old. I thought Nicholson was a little old in the first one though. But so was Keaton. If he can go dark enough, I like Matt Damon. It's a long shot, but when they said Heath Ledger was playing The Joker, I was far from excited.

On the other side of the pond, I like Clive Owen.

I like Jude Law for The Riddler or The Penguin, for that matter. But I don't think they can fuck with Burton and DeVito's rendition. That was just genius.

And the movie was just all right by the way. Ledger was phenomenal. Two Face was a poorly constructed distraction. I wanted more Joker. And two hours would've been plently. And the new Rachel was surprisingly ugly. It bothered me the whole time.