who calimed my daughter (taxes) last 5 yrs
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i don't know,,, but you might as well let it go bra,,, reguardless of what she's doing, you can't claim your kids without her consent. so why stress it?
i went through that shit with my daughters mother years ago. sounds like you are on a revenge mission now,,, and that ain't good,,, just let it go.
i went through that shit with my daughters mother years ago. sounds like you are on a revenge mission now,,, and that ain't good,,, just let it go.
Find you a good private investigator.
Its better then doin nothing about it.
LOL, that sounds like a good slogan
Jane & Finch P.I. Services
"Hey, Its better then doing nothing about it!"
Its better then doin nothing about it.
LOL, that sounds like a good slogan
Jane & Finch P.I. Services
"Hey, Its better then doing nothing about it!"
Goldmadw said:
There is a way to find out. Go to your local IRS office and let them know what happend. They will ask you to prove you are their father. They will need the kids SSN's. You have rights as a father to know. And when they catch what she is doing not only will she be in trouble, but whom ever has claimed them.
I cant stand women who use their kids for money......
OnyxFemme said:There is a way to find out. Go to your local IRS office and let them know what happend. They will ask you to prove you are their father. They will need the kids SSN's. You have rights as a father to know. And when they catch what she is doing not only will she be in trouble, but whom ever has claimed them.
I cant stand women who use their kids for money......
No, no, no don't listen to that brother. Here is deal.
You are fucked.
You can't claim them. Hell, I claimed them. 
Does it matter who? 
Yes, you can go to the IRS. I don't know about prove. The IRS might tell you if someone else claimed them, but the IRS will not tell who. By the way, I didn't claim them (at least not this year).
here is the link...get knowledge my brother.
http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc354.html
If you pay child support, are you allowed to deduct anything on your taxes or claim the child as an exemption?
Nothing can be deducted for the child support payments. Child support payments are neither deductible by the payer nor taxable income to the payee. You may be able to claim the child as a dependent. The parent who the child lived with for the greater part of the year is the custodial parent. Generally the custodial parent is allowed to claim the exemption for the child if the other exemption tests are met. However, the noncustodial parent may be allowed to claim the exemption for the child if the custodial parent signs a Form 8332 (PDF), Release of Claim to Exemption for Child of Divorced of Separated Parents, or a substantially similar statement.
OnyxFemme said:There is a way to find out. Go to your local IRS office and let them know what happend. They will ask you to prove you are their father. They will need the kids SSN's. You have rights as a father to know. And when they catch what she is doing not only will she be in trouble, but whom ever has claimed them.
I cant stand women who use their kids for money......
Onyx's approach sounds thorough. Co-sign ^
Helico-pterFunk said:Onyx's approach sounds thorough. Co-sign ^
No....it doesn't.
The IRS will not disclose to anyone the information you give us, except as authorized by law.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1.pdf
Picture this:
you: Mr. IRS will you tell me who claimed my children.
IRS: No problem. Can do. It is John Smith, he lives at 1000 Mable Street.
you: Thank you, now, I will go over this guy's house and kill him
IRS: Good, have a nice day.
There is nothing you can do. Like the taxman said you can't claim the kids. The IRS doesn't give a fuck who claims the kid just as long as only one person does. It's not illegal for someone else to claim your child as a dependent. It is only tax-fraud if the person claiming the child didn't provide dependent care for the child for the majority of the year in question. The IRS would have to audit that individule to find that out but all it would take is your daughters mother telling the IRS that that person provided dependent care and she did not claim the child and they will be off the hook.
Bottom line is there is really nothing you can do as the non-custodial parent contacting the IRS would be pointless. You could claim the child on your tax-return and then you and the other person who claimed the child would get audited but why put yourself through an audit and tax laibility just to get even. Let the shit go and move on or get custody of your daughter.
Bottom line is there is really nothing you can do as the non-custodial parent contacting the IRS would be pointless. You could claim the child on your tax-return and then you and the other person who claimed the child would get audited but why put yourself through an audit and tax laibility just to get even. Let the shit go and move on or get custody of your daughter.
OnyxFemme said:There is a way to find out. Go to your local IRS office and let them know what happend. They will ask you to prove you are their father. They will need the kids SSN's. You have rights as a father to know. And when they catch what she is doing not only will she be in trouble, but whom ever has claimed them.
I cant stand women who use their kids for money......
*middle fingers OnyxFemme
I got caught up in that last year, been claiming a womans grandkids for like 3 or 4 years with no problems $$$$$$$$ and then last year the daughter gets herself a boyfriend and decides to let him claim the kids without telling me or the grandmother . I got a notice from IRS wanting birth certificates, adoption papers, clothes receipts, letters from schools and churches everything showing proof that i took care of the kids for the year. Word got back and the grandmother said she would side with me but i like fuckit and just paid the $$$$$$$ back becuz for one i knew she wasn't gonna really go against her daughter and two you know how these young girls do, jut show up at moms house and leave the kids for mom to take care of, so there was nothing saying the grandmother was the custodial parent anway. What makes it so bad was that my company shut down last year and i had 10g's in my 401k that i had to get out and i had to send half of that to the IRS and then a month ago i got another letter from them saying i still owed them $42 [/b]TaxMan said:No....it doesn't.
The IRS will not disclose to anyone the information you give us, except as authorized by law.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1.pdf
Picture this:
you: Mr. IRS will you tell me who claimed my children.
IRS: No problem. Can do. It is John Smith, he lives at 1000 Mable Street.
you: Thank you, now, I will go over this guy's house and kill him
IRS: Good, have a nice day.
Just called a tax place-the hold time was too long at the IRS...and both of us are right....
They WILL not just tell him who claimed them, hence why I said he will have to prove it. The PROOF is IF he is on the birth certificate, and 2 pieces of ID for him at a local office. THEN if his information is accurate, they will have to investigate it. After the investigation they (the IRS) as authorized by law they have to tell him. And again she (the childrens mother) and whom ever is claiming them will be in trouble.
OnyxFemme said:
No, bitch I work for the IRS. I'm right. You are wrong.
You don't know what you are talking about. You are getting tax fraud confused with tax stupid.
Tax fraud is doing something wrong and knowing it is wrong.
Tax stupid is doing something wrong and you don't know what you are doing.
My brother it doesn't matter (Jamaica Accent). You still can't claim the bastards; they don't live with you.
Get Knowledge...Tell on that mother
http://www.irs.gov/compliance/enforcement/article/0,,id=106778,00.html
How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?
If you suspect or know of an individual or company that is not complying with the tax laws, you may report this activity by completing Form 3949-A. You may fill out Form 3949-A online, print it and mail it to:
Internal Revenue Service
Fresno, CA 93888
TaxMan said:No, bitch I work for the IRS. I'm right. You are wrong.
You don't know what you are talking about. You are getting tax fraud confused with tax stupid.
Tax fraud is doing something wrong and knowing it is wrong.
Tax stupid is doing something wrong and you don't know what you are doing.
My brother it doesn't matter (Jamaica Accent). You still can't claim the bastards; they don't live with you.
Get Knowledge...Tell on that mother
http://www.irs.gov/compliance/enforcement/article/0,,id=106778,00.html
How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?
If you suspect or know of an individual or company that is not complying with the tax laws, you may report this activity by completing Form 3949-A. You may fill out Form 3949-A online, print it and mail it to:
Internal Revenue Service
Fresno, CA 93888
The information I gave is based on information that I believed then called and got info on from a local tax place. Unfortunatley I wasnt able to get through to the actual IRS because of the hold time.... Maybe all those muthaphuckas are too busy on porn boards?
I am not really into the name calling, internet bullying and faggot bickering so
to the orignal thread starter go to your local IRS office and see what you can find out. I apologize in advance for any incorrect info given.
BUT I STILL HATE WOMEN WHO DO THAT, SO I HOPE SOMETHING CAN BE DONE.
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TaxMan said:No, bitch I work for the IRS. I'm right. You are wrong.
You don't know what you are talking about. You are getting tax fraud confused with tax stupid.
Tax fraud is doing something wrong and knowing it is wrong.
Tax stupid is doing something wrong and you don't know what you are doing.
My brother it doesn't matter (Jamaica Accent). You still can't claim the bastards; they don't live with you.
Get Knowledge...Tell on that mother
http://www.irs.gov/compliance/enforcement/article/0,,id=106778,00.html
How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?
If you suspect or know of an individual or company that is not complying with the tax laws, you may report this activity by completing Form 3949-A. You may fill out Form 3949-A online, print it and mail it to:
Internal Revenue Service
Fresno, CA 93888
LMBAO!!!!!!!!
Man I love when simple threads turn out like this. You never know when someone is gonna get pwned.
TaxMan said:No, bitch
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......... dont run the female off the board............
donwuan said:
Come to think about it you are right. There are plenty of dump fucks at the IRS. I should know.
So the thing you do...is listen to what you are told and then check it out. Read. Read. Read. This is why I gave the brother my opinion, and then I gave him the links....
opinion
links opinion linksGet the knowledge at
www.irs.gov
Goldmadw said:
Respect-
Playa;
I wouldn't argue with a brotha named "Taxman"- at least not at this time of the year.
but I also wouldn't rat your daughter's mother out like he suggests- He is the taxman after all, and between now and april 15, he is the enemy second, I hope that you could talk to the mama, and maybe she will let you claim your seed-(because she does live with you half of the year, right?
) even if that means you have to kick her out a little something. I believe the term is "mutually beneficial arrangement" Just remind her that you are handling your business as daddy ( I hope to hell you are- if you aren't, you got no bizzness even bringing this stuff up) and that it would help all three of you out.gameboy said:
^^TRUTH^^ Believe me, I know how hard it is to see everyone else
cashing in, getting these fat ass refund checks, while you work hard all year, sacrifice, and pay support but you get none of the love at tax time. This time of year makes for some greedy motherfuckers, if you'll pardon my language. You really see the character of some people at times like this.
Don't buy into it. Someone said living well is the best revenge. I don't know about all that, but I do know it will piss folks off to no end when they realize that the shit they just know is going to bother you or stress you out, doesn't.
If you don't have that type of relationship with mama, and can't work it out, let it go. Console yourself with the knowledge that you only have 3 more years of child support left. ( maybe less, you said you had been paying for 15 years) Beware though, after age 18, the REAL expenses start, but at least you don't have to deal with the mother unless you want to.)
Respect-
I'm thanking all for the info and advice given. I'm not really looking for revenge but looking to get some weight to persuade my ex to allow me the tax write-off. Just doesn't seem fair for me to pay 6k out in free money, plus school clothes and other gifts etc. only to have someone else claim my child who doesn't give any support.
Unless the mom signed Form 8332 for you to claim your daugther you are basically wasting your time bro.
As a non custodial parent *as already posted* you DO NOT get tax credit for paying child support unless mom signed the above mentioned form.
There is no money owed or obligated to you in any way shape or form.
Next, tax documents are considered by the IRS to be extremely confidential information. Whether you can provide proof that you are the father or not doesn't matter unless you had legal right to claim the child which you don't unless mom signed the above mentioned form (see a pattern here?)
At best your efforts would only get mom audited (but probably not because it's not illegal for other people to claim children) and if mom and Suzy Q corroborate their stories you just wasted a monumental amount of time and energy.
So the burden of proof would be on you to substantiate that there is some type of fraud taking place and you don't even know for sure that there has been any act of fraud committed.
I know its a tough battle to fight with child support bruh but there's no wins using this avenue.
As a non custodial parent *as already posted* you DO NOT get tax credit for paying child support unless mom signed the above mentioned form.
There is no money owed or obligated to you in any way shape or form.
Next, tax documents are considered by the IRS to be extremely confidential information. Whether you can provide proof that you are the father or not doesn't matter unless you had legal right to claim the child which you don't unless mom signed the above mentioned form (see a pattern here?)
At best your efforts would only get mom audited (but probably not because it's not illegal for other people to claim children) and if mom and Suzy Q corroborate their stories you just wasted a monumental amount of time and energy.
So the burden of proof would be on you to substantiate that there is some type of fraud taking place and you don't even know for sure that there has been any act of fraud committed.
I know its a tough battle to fight with child support bruh but there's no wins using this avenue.
Go to your Domestic Relations office get it in writing the percentage that you are paying in support. If you are payin more than 50% of the living expenses then you can claim your kids regardless of who has PRIMARY PHYSCIAL CUSTODY. I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT NOBODY SAID I JUS DID THE SHIT 2 WEEKS AGO. IT HAS 2 GOOD POINTS 1) YOU GET TO CLAIM YOUR KIDS AN 2) YOU BABY MOMMA WILL BE MAD CAUSE SHE AINT MAKING ENOUGH WHICH WILL MAKE HER WANT TO MAKE MORE MONEY CAUSING YOU DAILY SUPPORT PAYMENTS TO DROP .
ALSO IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT SHE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE MORE MONEY IE: Degree, Certificates, alot of bitches got nursing papers use this against them. Then they can enter her income level at a higher rate thus lowering your daily payments
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p4449.pdf
Notice the 1st few words SPECIAL RULES APPLY
Each state handles the cases differently bottom line get a Lawer that handles these types of cases on the regular. REMEMBER ITS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW ITS WHAT YOU CAN PROVE
.ALSO IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT SHE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE MORE MONEY IE: Degree, Certificates, alot of bitches got nursing papers use this against them. Then they can enter her income level at a higher rate thus lowering your daily payments
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p4449.pdf
Notice the 1st few words SPECIAL RULES APPLY
Each state handles the cases differently bottom line get a Lawer that handles these types of cases on the regular. REMEMBER ITS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW ITS WHAT YOU CAN PROVE
This really sucks. 15yrs of child support gone, no tax credit, more if baby girl goes to college and mom isn't even accountable for putting some of that money aside for baby girls college. And the evil ass tree hopper will no doubt be stressing me for more money later. I feel like glocking up and leaving shells. I guess another problem I'll have is that i'm not court ordered to pay. Don't need "The Man" to make me do the right thing. I'm just saying there aught to be some consideration for those of us who do the right thing.
Bababooey said:Go to your Domestic Relations office get it in writing the percentage that you are paying in support. If you are payin more than 50% of the living expenses then you can claim your kids regardless of who has PRIMARY PHYSCIAL CUSTODY. I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT NOBODY SAID I JUS DID THE SHIT 2 WEEKS AGO. IT HAS 2 GOOD POINTS 1) YOU GET TO CLAIM YOUR KIDS AN 2) YOU BABY MOMMA WILL BE MAD CAUSE SHE AINT MAKING ENOUGH WHICH WILL MAKE HER WANT TO MAKE MORE MONEY CAUSING YOU DAILY SUPPORT PAYMENTS TO DROP
ALSO IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT SHE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE MORE MONEY IE: Degree, Certificates, alot of bitches got nursing papers use this against them. Then they can enter her income level at a higher rate thus lowering your daily payments
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p4449.pdf
Notice the 1st few words SPECIAL RULES APPLY
Each state handles the cases differently bottom line get a Lawer that handles these types of cases on the regular. REMEMBER ITS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW ITS WHAT YOU CAN PROVE
YOU are good. Good knowledge.
Goldmadw said:
Ok wait...so you been paying support but it WASN'T court ordered? That puts everything in a different light.
Now if you can prove you were covering at least half of the childs living expenses then like Bababooey says you may have valid grounds to claim the child as a dependent.
You will need to holla at an attorney though, especially one that is knowledgable in tax law.
Good luck with everything bruh and no matter how this turns out continue to do whats right for ya seed...but I don't need to tell you that.
Keep ya head up bruh.
Peace
Peace
Again thanx a heap y'all. Life is a Big Bitch for real. Can't really afford an attorney, got ex in my pockets, have current family and 1 kid in Julliard college. I'm gonna figure something tho' cause I ain't one to just take shit on the chin and not give two back. I think I need some therapy to keep one out of the chamber for now tho. Mad as a mug' for-real.
You are as wrong as two left shoes on a retarded person for calling her out her name like that, regardless of who you work for.TaxMan said:No, bitch I work for the IRS. I'm right. You are wrong.
You don't know what you are talking about. You are getting tax fraud confused with tax stupid.
Tax fraud is doing something wrong and knowing it is wrong.
Tax stupid is doing something wrong and you don't know what you are doing.
My brother it doesn't matter (Jamaica Accent). You still can't claim the bastards; they don't live with you.
Get Knowledge...Tell on that mother
http://www.irs.gov/compliance/enforcement/article/0,,id=106778,00.html
How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?
If you suspect or know of an individual or company that is not complying with the tax laws, you may report this activity by completing Form 3949-A. You may fill out Form 3949-A online, print it and mail it to:
Internal Revenue Service
Fresno, CA 93888
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