Pretty much.
I respect Pac's rapping and acting skills but he allowed himself to get whored out for $$$$.
Tupac Shakur = Positive Role Model?
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Pretty much.
I respect Pac's rapping and acting skills but he allowed himself to get whored out for $$$$.
all of this....
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Homie, I'm 40 & I grew up all around hip-hop. You having some revisionist history going on. Before Death Row, Pac was at the same level as Heavy D.
OK, he had a few movies under his belt, that got some burn with the black community, but that shit came & went. Matter of fact, didn't all the movies he was in except Above The Rim underperform? Especially Poetic Justice.
And I'm not denying he didn't have good music out there before DR, but nobody was really looking for him then. He got some burn off "Brenda's Got A Baby" but the reality is that he was another rapper, one with a big mouth.
It took him talking wreckless about Janet, a Treach co-sign, shooting those cops & the rape charge to get his name out there.
Y'all trying to change history & make this man into some far-reaching hip-hop god when he wasn't even that hot until he got DR to co-sign his bullshit.
I agree with you. He started becoming popular when he started getting his name in the news for being in trouble with the law.
That being said I enjoyed his first album. It was a good anti-establishment album. I can tell he was influenced by PE,BDP and X-Clan. When he got to Death Row he stopped making music like this. The 2pacalapse Now album I'm talking about.
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All this idolizing towards Tupac just shows how desperate we are for heroes these days.
I've had arguments with young cats forever when they keep comparimg Tupac to Malcolm and other true Black heroes. Hell. I had a falling out of sorts with this Sista in her 40s, who wanted to argue with me all night about this.
Brother was a Rapper. Nothing More. I have his music too. Good shit. But a product of its time for the most part.
Making him a some sort of Black Rights Prophet is ludicrous in my book.
I've had arguments with young cats forever when they keep comparimg Tupac to Malcolm and other true Black heroes. Hell. I had a falling out of sorts with this Sista in her 40s, who wanted to argue with me all night about this.
Brother was a Rapper. Nothing More. I have his music too. Good shit. But a product of its time for the most part.
Making him a some sort of Black Rights Prophet is ludicrous in my book.
Couldn't have said it better ...he would have been a political force if he made it to 34
"Role model" is an arbitrary distinction...., no one is a complete role model. Like going to the supermarket, you just pluck certain parts of someone you want to emulate and leave the rest alone.
Tupac was a role model because he was popular and followed due to talent. Just as athletes and entertainers are role models.
He was conflicted which means he was both negative and positive.
His thoughts were going in the right direction and it was evident that he was influenced by his activist upbringing and surroundings.
Had he lived he would have been welcomed as I role model in my opinion. He was trying to find his footing.
He was conflicted which means he was both negative and positive.
His thoughts were going in the right direction and it was evident that he was influenced by his activist upbringing and surroundings.
Had he lived he would have been welcomed as I role model in my opinion. He was trying to find his footing.
IMO...
This is how I see Tupac, as Malcolm "Red" Little: an intelligent brother who had the potential to become more but that potential was never developed and was used mostly in service of self at best, self destruction at worst.
People who think of Tupac as more than that see him through rose colored lenses. Realistically, he was a (gangsta) rapper/ method actor who occasionally sprinkled some social conscious toppings on his 'shoot niggas up' sundae.
* two cents *
I stand by this.
*two cents *
Bumping because the music board version of this thread was bumped and reminded me of it.
View results: Is Tupac Shakur a positive, worthy or suitable role model?
- Tupac was a force for good & should be considered a role model.
Votes: 12 - 17.1% - Tupac was an overall positive force but should not be considered a role model.
Votes: 23 - 32.9% - Tupac was a popular rapper, nothing (or not much) more.
Votes: 27 - 38.6% - Tupac was an overall negative & should not be considered a role model.
Votes: 8 - 11.4%
- Total voters 70
On his movie they should have played the songs "CHANGES" and "WHITE MAN'S WORLD"
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