The Types that Join the ARMY

[DickDastardly]

I'm not ghetto but I live here and share some of the mentality. Being that we have a MAJOR distrust of government and law enforcement, that alone, is enough to keep me and anybody I know out of the military. Way back when... the army and marines were always preying on my school. They both had only given one official presentation and that's all they were allowed. The overall tone of them was condescending and coercive. They pretty much implied that you could join the marines or throw away your life on somethin else. "Be apart of the best of be apart of the rest." What kinda shit is that?

I definitely don't know the ins and outs of the military and I have limited contact with such people. I notice whenever somebody hates on the military the "name dropping" and the "title dropping" starts. Shit sounds like a pyramid scheme but instead of selling voicemail you're killing people. I'm a team leader and I got 30 accounts! Yeah you should listen to him cuz he's a team leader and has 30 accounts! Well I killed 30 people and I'm a sergeant! Yeah you should listen to him cuz he's a FUCKIN BOSS! You get my drift? There will ALWAYS be those who can brag about success because "results may vary" but "results are not typical."

Boro has some good points... especially... if it's ALL THAT then why aren't people signin up? They make it out to be the deal of a lifetime people should be dyin to get in right? This goes back to the trust issue. They will tell you what EVER the FUCK they gotta tell you to get you enlisted. The very next day they can void their end of the bargain minus the basics, but you are still obligated to serve. Heads I win... tails you lose... still wanna call it in the air?

 

[DaleMabry]

Its a known truth that most of those military ads appeal to confused kids who are looking for quick money, a way out of dead end jobs, or a sense of purpose and of course many, in their poorly funded schools and impoverished neighborhoods, have never felt important or worthy of respect and this is the lure of today's humilation-focused military: Sign yourself over to us, accept whatever we dish out in perfect submission, and we’ll give you a prepackaged future (if you survive) and a uniform that other people will respect.

Now thats not something many from higher class,educated and well off would sign up for would they? I means seriously tell me how many senators sons are serving members of the Army? even the warmongers wouldnt allow their children to serve.Those kids who are more likely to have gone to Yale,harvard,Stanford,MIT,OXBRIDGE and so on would just go straight to work with CliffordChance,DLA PIPER and CREDIT SUISSE than sign up for Iraq

The bottom line is many joined the army for wrong reasons and after being lied to by the recruiters and i think thats wrong.

I do believe the military's baseline recruiting strategy is recruiting poor, working class and lower middle class soldiers, especially for Infantry and other fighting divisions, so while your statement might be a little too sweeping there is some truth to it, definitely. As a military kid a great deal of the people I grew up with were from working class communities from all over the country--Compton, Brooklyn, Miami, Houston, etc. etc.

BTW nice comeback with the Malcolm quote.

 

[hanginbals]

Shit 7 years ago I tried to go to the Navy. I took the ASVAP twice and failed both times(thats what the recruited said) Anyway He asked me was I determined and I told him yea.. Being in Brownsville I was determined to get up out the hood. So he kept telling me to study and shit, but I was like fucked this. It wasent a WAR then when I was trying to sign up. I moved to Minnesota where Im at now. Then all of a sudden war jumps off( Iraq) and my moms telling me ole boy keep calling for me saying he can get me in. I said fuck him, Its war I aint fighting. She told me since i faided twice all I had to do was take a physical. Fuck you I aint leaving here to go there. Now its there terms they beggin, but when a brother WANTED to go it was all red tape and shit. Im glad I failed that test even though I felt I didn't . I graduated h.s and did some college but I think it was my age. He wanted the new fresh meat and I was old (28 at the time) so they aint wanna fuck with me. I guess there really is a path for everyone to take. And that wasent mine!

 

[bromack1]

Shit 7 years ago I tried to go to the Navy. I took the ASVAP twice and failed both times(thats what the recruited said) !

You failed the ASVAB twice..... I scored high enough to get into the USAF when I was 17.....and the AF requires a higher cut off than all the other branches.

I guess that's why some people be hatin on the military.....

 

[KILO]

 

[MI6]

FUCKING CO-SIGN!

Just because you don't agree with the war and it's policies doesn't mean the people that fight them are idiots. They deserve our utmost respect!

Im supposed to RESPECT someone,that's either too young or dumb to understand,that you DONT sign your life over and basically become a contract killer for a government that routinely lies to it's civilian population?

even this mofo gonna have a problem with that.

 

[bromack1]

What a wonderfully intelligent and erudite counterargument you offered. But not really enough substance to it I'm afraid, do try again. Ohh you asked about the solution...well,number one soultion would be people should be left to chose to join the army at their own will and not bribing them by offering free educatation, something that they should have been free in the first place.

Your solution stinks in its point...

Why... because if you pursue "any" job in the market place.... every employer offers you an "incentive" of some kind. Its a real bonus when your employer offers you a "free" college education. That's how I got mine.... I even was able to go a major university.

But if you only wanna work at McDonalds... if you work hard enough... you'll be able to work your way up from sweepin floors, to tossin fries, flippin burgers... to one day... workin the cash register.

 

[hanginbals]

You failed the ASVAB twice..... I scored high enough to get into the USAF when I was 17.....and the AF requires a higher cut off than all the other branches.

I guess that's why some people be hatin on the military.....

Well thats what the recruiter told me. I didn't never see my scores. I went with 3 other people twice. When I took it at home in the book I passed . I just thought something was fishy.

 

[bromack1]

Im supposed to RESPECT someone,that's either too young or dumb to understand,that you DONT sign your life over and basically become a contract killer for a government that routinely lies to it's civilian population?

even this mofo gonna have a problem with that.

.... boy are you nuts...

The military offers a great deal more than just infantry. My advice to you is.... don't give "career" advice to any 18 year old unless you have something definite to offer like a job or educational opportunities.... That's why they mean when they say talk is "cheap."

 

[bromack1]

I would let you know there are 42 million black people in America. This victim roll you play does nothing to advance your cause. What do you propose we do? As I've read your threads i've heard nothing of action in the way of a solution. You complain and complain about the way things are. I have a solution that might well help you - leave America. You will no longer have to deal with all of that non-sense (your opinion) you are advocating.

Brilliant response.... A lot of these "knuckleheads" choose to live according to ideas from not only 50 but even 100 years ago. And they aren't even old enough to even know what "segregation" about.

The world has changed....

 

[bromack1]

rather than deleting a thread maybe we can have a discussion about the issues. I think the best option would be counter arguments than deleting a thread how about that?

Anyway looks like for some joining the army might benefits. Risks too, but for poor people the risks are small, and the rewards great. For middle and upper class, the rewards are small compared to what they already have, yet the same risk - it generally isnt worth going to the army for middle-upper class.

Thats why they would rather pursue careers in Finance,Law or Medicine.

Maybe the recruiters dont tell the whole picture and maybe this is done deliberately by the Army.

If you're 18, didn't do well enough in high school to be admitted to college, or just plain ol tired of school, what other options are their.

What other option's are there besides workin at McDonalds...I wonder what the recruiting pitch is like for workin at mcdonalds... or maybe as a bag boy for a grocery store. The truth is, unless you plan to stay with your folks the rest of your life, you gotta "grow" up and start to make "responsible" decisions about how you're gonna make some money for yourself.

Again, can you tell us what other choices exist for a young guy that wants to take a few years away from school and get a job that might have a little "dignity" tied to it??????

 

[8/11Streetz]

The Reality is
ITS ONLY IGNORANT FOLKS ARE THOSE WHO JOIN THE ARMED FORCES DURING A WAR.... ESP ONE AMERICA IS LOOSING IN!

Then you got those college educated ones who thought everything was all good after the first Gulf War.

But on the real, AIRFORCE and NAVY is cool to JOIN RIGHT NOW if you need a JOB but If you join the Marines are Army right now, then yeah, your dumb.

I'm going to have to correct you on that Navy might be cool but Airforce is going to iraq to homie. I know because i was in the airforce and been to Iraq 3 times each time was 6 months not as long as the marines or army but it was still hell. I went for what my job was but then the next thing you know i was doing my job and convoys from baghdad to Balad aka HellsRide.
What makes this even worse is airforce is not properly trained to be going in hostile area's we are only trained for a few months and thrown over there there but the army and marines are trained from the start in combat so to me the whole military is fucked up in that aspect. I guess with the military forces being stretched so far wouldnt be surprised if navy is next.

I joined because even though i didnt grow up poor i couldnt afford college so i joined got my GI bill (school paided for) and bounce. When i was in i meet all kinds of people some was smart and had there education or was working to get there degree. Then there was the people that honestly i couldnt see doing anyting outside the military but i cant knock them atleast they are doing something with themselves.

 

[DaleMabry]

You failed the ASVAB twice..... I scored high enough to get into the USAF when I was 17.....and the AF requires a higher cut off than all the other branches.

I guess that's why some people be hatin on the military.....

Well I am an Air Force brat whose family has served in the Air Force since it was the Army / Air Corps so it looks like you're gonna have to man up and actually engage the arguments instead of this unnecessary attempt at Character Assassination.

I don't hate on the military at ALL. Lot of beautiful people serving our country. However, when you consider that when we declared war on Iraq only ONE person on Capitol Hill actually had a child serving, and all the dudes with actual military experience in the Bush Admin. were pushed out by the Chicken Hawks, ask yourself why are you making these robotic defenses of our foreign policy and American political status quo? Like, whose side are you REALLY on? Me, I feel the citizens have to keep the politicians honest so they don't sent the troops to their death over bullshit.

(See: Spanish-American War, Korean War, Vietnamese War, Desert Storm One and the Iraq War)

 

[MI6]

.... boy are you nuts...

The military offers a great deal more than just infantry. My advice to you is.... don't give "career" advice to any 18 year old unless you have something definite to offer like a job or educational opportunities.... That's why they mean when they say talk is "cheap."

Those other sections of the military support the infantry dont they? Whether
your serving food,fixing tanks,military intelligence,..etc.Doesnt really matter if your not on the frontlines putting holes in bodies if your actively supporting those who are.So cut the bullshit,the military is an organism that needs all of its parts to survive and all those parts is equally at fault when they support a war that only benefits the agenda of the so called elite.

 

[gogiants]

I've been in the military for 15 years and I have not determined that there is any particular "type" that joins. I've seen all types in the military: gangsta, thug, redneck, hillbilly, dumb, smart, educated and uneducated, rich and poor, you name it, they are in the military. Trying to paint the military as dumb and brainwashed is simply wrong. In fact, if you actually do the research, you will find that the military is more intelligent and better educated than the rest of society. Also, it is more diverse, with minorities having a better than average chance to advance quickly. Do the research, get the facts.

 

[blackIpod]

How come most of them seems to come from poor background,uneducated and after joining it they all seem to have been brainwashed and they often come out as waaay too patriotic to a country that will definetly abandon them after they left Walter Reed...

Is it fair to say that most of them couldnt live in the real world and just gave up easily or what?

And how come they dont have Middle classes and upper classes folks joining the Army? I am talking about those from Yale and Good schools as such...


Why?

I would still fight to up hold this cowards right to free speech.

 

[D-TOWN REP]

I'm not knocking anyone in the military...shit let them do their thing...somebody gotta go, and I sure as hell ain't

 

[PanzerBob]

The Types that Join the ARMY

well the're called soldiers, they sign on of their own free will, to guarenty our freedoms in the West..................

..........I certainly didn't do it for the pay!!!

...and sometime they die for us too.

Lest we forget

Bob

 

[maddcat]

Well I guess it's time for me to chime in. Yes I'm former military, Navy. No I did not come from an impovershed home. I graduated from private school and choose the Navy over college becouse I felt I had to compete for and education. Not my style. Some parts of my duties I hated other parts I loved. I'll say patrotism goes beyond our current prez. It's about love of country not love of the asshole you didn't vote for. I can say this after traveling all over Europe and Asia, i'd much rather live here than elsewhere,even with all the problems we have in this country. The military is not about brainwashing or hup 2,3,4. It about recruiting idealistic intellegent people to run a highly technolgical Army. There are all kinds of skills need in the millitary, thats why a battery of test are given to determine what duties you are best suited.


Army people fight for your freedom, pay them the respect they deserve by voting for the right guy.

 

[CPT Callamity]

HOld the F up. I'm a Rutgers Graduate and enlisted while in school to take advantage of the college. At first I wasn't for this but when times get tough you've got to step up. It was either that or drop out of school or take 7 years to finish (that is if I paid up). I joined ROTC because it made no sense to be enlisted with a degree and I WAS GUARANTEED A JOB with a leadership position. I can't say my choice was bad because I now have proven my ability to supervise upwards of 150+ people, got to travel around the world and have learned a lot about different people.

There is no "type" that joins the military. We get all types and from that you learn. Sure, there are people from lower economic classes, but what makes more sense: Staying in your country buttfuck town where the factory closed down or enlist and remain employed and fed. And trust...the patriotism isn't brainswashing. The military instills a culture in you that makes you feel part of a team, unlike the corporate world where people are fake and cutthroat. This helps build cohesiveness which I very seldom find in the civilian world.

I'm proud to say that I served as an Officer (10% of the total Army is black officers, hardly enough considering that 47+% are black enlisted) and would do it again under a different administration besides this one. If you don't understand the military, don't talk about the military.

 

[Garifuna]

I would let you know there are 42 million black people in America. This victim roll you play does nothing to advance your cause. What do you propose we do? As I've read your threads i've heard nothing of action in the way of a solution. You complain and complain about the way things are. I have a solution that might well help you - leave America. You will no longer have to deal with all of that non-sense (your opinion) you are advocating.

CO-SIGN

There must be a few places left in the world where America doesn't impose it's will, and screw people of color. Canada, for one (though that might change if enough of you go there).

I realize that most of us (people of color) are here because America screwed up our homelands, for some of us it is still happening. Maybe it's time for youse to go home, build some IEDs and kick America out. Join the fight for freedom. To quote a revolutionary contemporary of Brother X:

"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." - Eldridge Cleaver

Just realize that the hedonistic materialistic lifestyle that BGOL idolizes is at the root of the capitalistic New World Order. You'll have to give up your Beemers, vacation homes, and Bling.

 

[Drayonis]

Im supposed to RESPECT someone,that's either too young or dumb to understand,that you DONT sign your life over and basically become a contract killer for a government that routinely lies to it's civilian population?

even this mofo gonna have a problem with that.

They deserve respect because they are doing something most of us aren't willing to do. Yea I think it's crazy to be property, Yea I think it's crazy to "catch bullets" and "shrapnel" willingly. But Someone has to right? I'm giving them props because I'm not willing to put myself in the path of destruction.....

 

[lawlarry9]

That might be a bit true these days under Emperor Bush's regime, but not ENTIRELY true. I've spent 9 years in the Army (got out July '01), and yes, there were, and i'm sure still are, some under-educated soldiers, those who come from poor backgrounds, etc. But there are also college grads, college educated ( as I was), middle class and upper class people who've enlisted as well.

Right now, the military is recruiting HEAVILY in poorer neighborhoods (and I absolutely hate that fact), especially in a time of war. The on etru thing, is that both educated and the uneducated, the poor and the rich, are getting raggedy training, and shipped off to fight too quickly. They don't get the chance to do better for themselves before being put under the gun.

If these same soldiers were in the military during a time of 'peace', they would all have the opportunity to get a college education. One of the things that is good during peace time, is that soldiers are offered the opportunity to advance whatever education they had prior to enlisting. In some instances, it's actually MANDATORY that they at least try to.

 

[tebriel69]

man i'm a soldier who enlisted in the army a year ago. i was in my junior year at georgia state university. i joined because i was damn near broke. scholarship ended and a brotha was on his last days in the dorm and his last can of beans. i joined because like a lot of people, i thought the army was basically filled with people with a low class education. and i was right. i'd say more than 50 percent of the armed forces are young kids, who smoke, drink and party. HOWEVER, despite this the fact that these young men and women decided to do something to get away from that type of lifestyle says something about them. sure they might not be able to handle a full course load and a regular job like myself and so many of us better educated folks. but they've got heart and courage. and that says something about them. and like its been said already on this board, you can LEARN in the army and better prepare yourself for the future. the guy on here who owns 2 houses and 3 brand new or almost new cars......eh he's not bullshitting. in the army if you play your cards right, you're gone in 20 years and you have money. you GET MONEY WHEN YOU FIRST START! i was in basic training and at the end of it all i had G's in my account. now most of these young cats who were with me were still in the red in their accounts cuz they just werent used to having money. all they knew was how to spend, spend, spend. but given time, they'll learn to save and prepare for whats ahead. when you're in the service all you do is make money and work and chill. you have no basic needs to take care of. rent, food,...thats all taken care of. so ask yourself, what are you paying for? a car? ok thats simple. you can take care of that easily cuz you have PLENTY of money to do so. SO WHAT ELSE ARE U BUYING REALLY?? point is, i joined because i saw first and foremost a way to go to law school, and a way to get more discipline and a way to build up my credit. no lie. i figure eh if i'm spending 3-4 years or watever barely spending on anything i may as well buy a few pricey items on credit and build that crap up. a year later, my plan is working out nicely. now i'm going to iraq in less than a week. i'm not thrilled about it, but eh, its part of being a soldier. you get money and stuff from uncle sam but we all know he demands a lot in return. may as well suck it up and deal with it. besides, once u get used to the bullshit in the army and know how it works, its a lot easier to stack your paper than a lot of other companies.

 

[Yogi Bear]

The problem most of us have with the military is that when most people come back they are just as worthless as when they left. Which is what we all see. If you can manage your money and make good choices the military can work for you. Most military cats that do 20 years are paid by the time they reach 40 and are still getting that retirement check while they have another well paying job due to their free education. You have to use every thing that they do for the same way they use you. It's like any other job that will chew you up and spit you out.

 

[bromack1]

man i'm a soldier who enlisted in the army a year ago. i was in my junior year at georgia state university. i joined because i was damn near broke. scholarship ended and a brotha was on his last days in the dorm and his last can of beans. i joined because like a lot of people, i thought the army was basically filled with people with a low class education. and i was right. i'd say more than 50 percent of the armed forces are young kids, who smoke, drink and party. HOWEVER, despite this the fact that these young men and women decided to do something to get away from that type of lifestyle says something about them. sure they might not be able to handle a full course load and a regular job like myself and so many of us better educated folks. but they've got heart and courage. and that says something about them. and like its been said already on this board, you can LEARN in the army and better prepare yourself for the future. the guy on here who owns 2 houses and 3 brand new or almost new cars......eh he's not bullshitting. in the army if you play your cards right, you're gone in 20 years and you have money. you GET MONEY WHEN YOU FIRST START! i was in basic training and at the end of it all i had G's in my account. now most of these young cats who were with me were still in the red in their accounts cuz they just werent used to having money. all they knew was how to spend, spend, spend. but given time, they'll learn to save and prepare for whats ahead. when you're in the service all you do is make money and work and chill. you have no basic needs to take care of. rent, food,...thats all taken care of. so ask yourself, what are you paying for? a car? ok thats simple. you can take care of that easily cuz you have PLENTY of money to do so. SO WHAT ELSE ARE U BUYING REALLY?? point is, i joined because i saw first and foremost a way to go to law school, and a way to get more discipline and a way to build up my credit. no lie. i figure eh if i'm spending 3-4 years or watever barely spending on anything i may as well buy a few pricey items on credit and build that crap up. a year later, my plan is working out nicely. now i'm going to iraq in less than a week. i'm not thrilled about it, but eh, its part of being a soldier. you get money and stuff from uncle sam but we all know he demands a lot in return. may as well suck it up and deal with it. besides, once u get used to the bullshit in the army and know how it works, its a lot easier to stack your paper than a lot of other companies.

Thank you for your comments.... You sound like an honorable man with a very strong character

... the military changed my life and I think I'm a much better and stronger person because of it...

I wish you well... Stay and touch with us.... our prayers are with you...

 

[GAMETHEORY]

If you're 18, didn't do well enough in high school to be admitted to college, or just plain ol tired of school, what other options are their.

What other option's are there besides workin at McDonalds...I wonder what the recruiting pitch is like for workin at mcdonalds... or maybe as a bag boy for a grocery store. The truth is, unless you plan to stay with your folks the rest of your life, you gotta "grow" up and start to make "responsible" decisions about how you're gonna make some money for yourself.

Again, can you tell us what other choices exist for a young guy that wants to take a few years away from school and get a job that might have a little "dignity" tied to it??????

Or are hassled so voraciously by army recruiters that they eventually fold, realizing that their previous "education" allows them nothing but criminal or military employment.

Stop pretending like the military doesn't specifically target the disadvantaged, dispossessed and confused, it does. Recruiters have quotas and they try damn hard to achieve them, and do you know what that means? It means scandals like the one that happened recently, involving a young man who pretended to want to enlist, but lacked a high school degree and admitted to drug addiction. The recruiter, undeterred supplied him with false certificate from a fake high school and some shit to drink to make his piss clean.

The Army recruits whoever it can, and because the disadvantaged, poor, uneducated and confused are the easiest targets thats where most of the focus is.

 

[bromack1]

Or are hassled so voraciously by army recruiters that they eventually fold, realizing that their previous "education" allows them nothing but criminal or military employment.

Stop pretending like the military doesn't specifically target the disadvantaged, dispossessed and confused, it does. Recruiters have quotas and they try damn hard to achieve them, and do you know what that means? It means scandals like the one that happened recently, involving a young man who pretended to want to enlist, but lacked a high school degree and admitted to drug addiction. The recruiter, undeterred supplied him with false certificate from a fake high school and some shit to drink to make his piss clean.

The Army recruits whoever it can, and because the disadvantaged, poor, uneducated and confused are the easiest targets thats where most of the focus is.

Do you think McDonalds takes the time to background check all its employees.??????? For that matter, look at all the problems professional sports has in screening its athletes... You got multi-million dollar athletes that don't have enough sense to even stay out of jail..... get real.

You're trying to override my point with nonsense. No one has ever said that recruiting employees is a "perfect" process...

I maintain.... you got a better idea for a young man who has no desire to attend higher education but still feels pressured to make a living before his parents throw his "ass" out on the streets.

Do you want them to come live with you till they figure out what they wanna do.....Aw come on... we talking grown folk stuff.... not kids games....

Myself and I'm sure many others wanna here about some other options... on top of that... what are you "personally" willing to do to help out your brothers.

 

[mcguyver]

I spent 8yrs in the army went in right out of high school and have to disagree with you the people in the military are mostly young 18-27 and when they are not working they are some of the most partying people you will ever meet. You should be glad they are patriotic, if not who would defend this country. You shouldn't be so quick to condem something you don't understand. No matter how fucked this country is at times this is all we have, try living in another country like Germany, Turkey, Iraq. Military or ex-military are brain washed, with discipline and respect. And if you think military personell are uneducated try going through some of their training. You know how much they have to remember in a short period of time. Air Assault school - 3 wks, field sanation school 2wks, First Aid, recognizing chemicaal attacks and treating them. aint jump school 4 wks? Isn't M. O. S training 6 wks don't remember been too long.

 

[capitalq]

children of slaves, dying to protect the the old slave master and his selfish interests... for the sake of having a good job. we really have served this country well, havent we?

"niggas speak with authority, rarely do they challenge it" - Naledge, Kidz in the Hall

 

[bromack1]

I spent 8yrs in the army went in right out of high school and have to disagree with you the people in the military are mostly young 18-27 and when they are not working they are some of the most partying people you will ever meet. You should be glad they are patriotic, if not who would defend this country. You shouldn't be so quick to condem something you don't understand. No matter how fucked this country is at times this is all we have, try living in another country like Germany, Turkey, Iraq. Military or ex-military are brain washed, with discipline and respect. And if you think military personell are uneducated try going through some of their training. You know how much they have to remember in a short period of time. Air Assault school - 3 wks, field sanation school 2wks, First Aid, recognizing chemicaal attacks and treating them. aint jump school 4 wks? Isn't M. O. S training 6 wks don't remember been too long.

Ya know...

I don't take some of these anit-military people personally... have you ever considered the type's of people that some of them are...Lets start with the easy...
"Fat" (can't bend over to touch there toes let alone tie there shoes..can only manage to tie there shoes while sitting in a chair).
Didn't respect their parents so they "raised" themselves to disrespect any type of authority figure. Drug addicts, no self discipline, chronically stupid, low energy.....

I recall when I went through "Air Force" basic training. It was like summer camp except you had that guy in the smokey the bear hat yellin at ya all day. We started out with 45 guys... and by the time it was over, we were down to 35. And for some of those guys, it was the first job they ever got "fired" from... honestly, do you expect them to go on and ever have anything positive to say about the military.

In other words, some of these guys most likely don't have any "fitness" for even being in the military to begin with.... they know it... but they don't want you to know it..

 

[Pitchdogg]

Shit 7 years ago I tried to go to the Navy. I took the ASVAP twice and failed both times(thats what the recruited said) Anyway He asked me was I determined and I told him yea.. Being in Brownsville I was determined to get up out the hood. So he kept telling me to study and shit, but I was like fucked this. It wasent a WAR then when I was trying to sign up. I moved to Minnesota where Im at now. Then all of a sudden war jumps off( Iraq) and my moms telling me ole boy keep calling for me saying he can get me in. I said fuck him, Its war I aint fighting. She told me since i faided twice all I had to do was take a physical. Fuck you I aint leaving here to go there. Now its there terms they beggin, but when a brother WANTED to go it was all red tape and shit. Im glad I failed that test even though I felt I didn't . I graduated h.s and did some college but I think it was my age. He wanted the new fresh meat and I was old (28 at the time) so they aint wanna fuck with me. I guess there really is a path for everyone to take. And that wasent mine!

I see why you failed the ASVAB. Your grammar is atrocious. Maybe you should think about community college and prepare yourself for the CAT oops I meant SAT

 

[Pitchdogg]

HOld the F up. I'm a Rutgers Graduate and enlisted while in school to take advantage of the college. At first I wasn't for this but when times get tough you've got to step up. It was either that or drop out of school or take 7 years to finish (that is if I paid up). I joined ROTC because it made no sense to be enlisted with a degree and I WAS GUARANTEED A JOB with a leadership position. I can't say my choice was bad because I now have proven my ability to supervise upwards of 150+ people, got to travel around the world and have learned a lot about different people.

There is no "type" that joins the military. We get all types and from that you learn. Sure, there are people from lower economic classes, but what makes more sense: Staying in your country buttfuck town where the factory closed down or enlist and remain employed and fed. And trust...the patriotism isn't brainswashing. The military instills a culture in you that makes you feel part of a team, unlike the corporate world where people are fake and cutthroat. This helps build cohesiveness which I very seldom find in the civilian world.

I'm proud to say that I served as an Officer (10% of the total Army is black officers, hardly enough considering that 47+% are black enlisted) and would do it again under a different administration besides this one. If you don't understand the military, don't talk about the military.

Well spoken Sir. Esprit de Corps, Look that shit up.

 

[DatNi&&aNice]

I get back from doing missions to see this type of shit. I've been to Walter Reed and have even lived in the building that was publicized a little while back. Overall, the care their is better than any civilian hospital I've been to. Listen, I'm a 22 year old SGT in the Army and August is my 5 year mark. I'm no dumbass. I'm in the medical field and though I'm not a field medic, I still play a vital role in the welfare of soldiers. I've worked in clinical and research laboratories and have always taken care of my soldiers ( all of which are older than me). I've owned real estate and take care of my mother on without dependent pay. True. I joined to go to college, but I signed that dotted line saying that I would defend this country and our way of life. In the few years I've been in, I've met people from all walks of life who have had different reasons to join, but none of which have said they folded under the pressure of a recruiter. No one holds a gun to our head and says join or die. I'm still the lil' nigga I was before I joined just a little wiser and more mature. I've shed my childish ways. Can you say the same? It's people like me that ensure you have the rught to say something that stupid.

Support our troops, but not this war!!

 

[the_monsterous_monster]

Another Anti-American thread.





Clean your house before you talk about someone else's.

what????
yo, shorty, you seem to have a bad habit of typing some of the most bombastic drivel...trying to spark debate, regardless how controversial, is unpatriotic???....using your logic, then going against the grain of popular belief in regards to segregation makes civil rights proponents anti-American...as well as an assorted lot of others that have questioned shit in this country....